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CONTENTS. No. 100. 


NOTES : Herbert of Gloucester and Herbert theChamber- 
lain, 1 Shakespeariana, 2 Statues and Memorials in 
the British Isles, 5 "Eryngo" and " Eruca," 7 Napo- 
leonic and Other Belies in New Orleans ' Pictorial 
Records of London 'Archdeacon Francis Wrangham 
The Trinity House at Katcliff, 8 " Stinting " Sam 
Patterson and Burton's ' Anatomy of Melancholy ' 
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General Stonewall Jackson French School of Fine Arts 
in London William Phillips : Trace of MSS. Wanted 
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Epater le bourgeois." 11 Grave of Emperor Honorius 
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deep " Urchfort New England Pagination Chair 
c. 1786 "Catholic" Deal as a Place of Call Sheriffs in 
Scotland, 12 General Jaius Oglethorpe John Thornton 
Monkshood Capt. G. W. Carleton Henry Jenkins : 
Killed in a Duel John Witty Capt. C. J. Grant Duff- 
Miss Gordon, Schoolmistress Grain - Seeds lent by 
Churches ' Sonnets of this Century,' 13 Leper's Win- 
dows: Low Side Window ' In albis' ' Philochristus ' : 
' Ecce Homo 'Thomas Pagard John Ellis, D.D. Theo-. 
logical MSS. : Identification Wanted Tunstall Walvein 
Family, 14" Bocase " Tree E. Owen of Swansea Capt. 
Henry Bell Edward Kent Stratbearn Steward Valua- 
tion of Ecclesiastical Benefices Ship's Yards 'a-cock 
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MR. A. S. ELLIS wrote that on the death of 
iloger de Pistres (father of Walter de 
loucester) his brother Durand 

' gave lands in Westwood, in Erchentield, co. Here- 
ord, to St. Peter's, Gloucester, for the soul of his 
>rother Roger. This is in the Survey, therefore 
made before 1086. Westwood was ' given, 'rather 
lontirmed, to the monks by Walter de Gloucester 
or the souls of his father, mother, and brother 
Herbert." 'Landholders of Gloucestershire in 
)omesday,' p. 78. 

Phe authority given is : " Hist, et Cart. Mon. 
St. Petri de Glouc., vol. i., p. 118." But the 
jassage referred to states that Westwood 
was given by Roger de Gloucester (the son 
of Durand) : 

'Anno Domini millesimo centesimo primo, 
Elogerus de Gloucestria, pro anima patris sui et 
natris, et pro anima Herberti fratris sui, dedit 
Westwode in Jerchenfeld ecclesiae Sancti Petri 
loucestriae, et duos Rodknyztes, et unam eccle- 
siam cum una hida terrae, et uno molendino, 
Willelmo rege juniore confirmante, rege Henrico 
seniore confirmante, tempore Serlonis abbatis." 

The Cartulary does not contain any such 
harter of Roger de Gloucester, and as 
Domesday records that Westwood had been 
given to St. Peter's by Durand for the soul 
of his brother Roger, this entry in the list 
of donations appears suspicious ; all the 
more so because a charter concocted by the 
monks yields a third story, Westwood being 
made a gift of Walter de Gloucester for the 
soul of his father (cp. 12 S. v. 261-2). If 
the whole entry is not an invention, it may 
probably confuse two separate acts by 
Roger de Gloucester, viz. : (1) a confirmation 
of his father's gift of Westwood, and (2) a 
gift of two rodknights, &c., for the soul of 
his brother Herbert, the date applying only 
to the latter. (If so, were these new grants 
at Westwood, or where ?) This suggestion 
may receive some support (quantum valeat) 
from a charter of Henry I. in the cartulary, 
which states that Roger's gift was made by 
the king's permission, but does not mention 
Westwood : 

"Sciatis et terram quam Rogerus de Glouces- 
tria dedit ecclesiae Sancti Petri de Gloucestria pro 
anima fratris sui Hereberti, scilicet duos radcnithes, 
et unam ecclesiam cum una hyda terrae, et unum 
molendiuum, meo concessu dedisse." Ibid, ii., 

The construction is defective, but no doubt 
' " dedisse " depends on an omitted accusative. 

NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. JAN., 1920. 

However, I doubt if we can rely on this 
alleged charter, which first notifies the 
king's gift of Maisemore, then confirms gifts 
by the wife of Roger de Ivry (" Jureio ' is 
obviously a misreading of Ivreio), Roger de 
Gloucester (as above), and Hugh de Laci. 
There is a much shorter charter notifying 
the king's grant of Maisemore (ibid., ii. 22), 
without referring to other gifts, which I 
should think more likely of the two to 
represent a genuine charter. No doubt 
when Mr. Davis publishes the next volume 
of the 'Regesta Regum Anglo-Norman- 
norum,' we shall get an expert opinion on 
these charters. 


The two passages quoted above are the 
only references to Herbert, and make it 
clear that, if he existed at all, he was the 
brother of Roger de Gloucester. Yet in the 
index he is described as: "Gloucester, 
Herbert, brother of Walter of." This may 
have led to the similar error by Mr. Ellis, 
whose reputation, of course, stands too high 
to be affected by one of those slips to which 
we are all liable. 

In another place Mr. Ellis suggested that 
the Herbert who held Dene and Lesburne 
in 1086 of Walter de Gloucester, 
"was, no doubt, his own brother, who must have 
died not long after, for the monks of Gloucester 
were to pray for his soul by desire of Walter, 
when giving or confirming Westwood (p. 78). It is 
not unlikely that in this brother Herbert we have 
that Herbert, the chamberlain, who was holding 
two manors in Hants of the king and another of 
Hugh de Port." (op- cit., p. 81). 
No evidence is adduced in support of either 
suggestion, and the latter is hardly com- 
patible with the dates; for Mr Eyton 
showed that Herbert the Chamberlain did 
not die until about 1129 (' Antiquities of 
Shropshire,' vii. 146-8). It is true that Mr. 
Eyton does not trace this Herbert back 
earlier than 1101, and it might be argued 
that he was the son of the Domesday tenant. 
But the Abingdon Chronicle shows that the 
Herbert who was Chamberlain under 
Henry I. was the same man as Herbert the 
Chamberlain living temp. William II., before 
the death of Abbot Rainald in 1097 (' Chron. 
Mon. de Abingdon,' Rolls Series, 11. 42-3, 
86 134) ; and Dr. Round considers him as 
identical with the Domesday tenant 
('Victoria County History of Hampshire, 
i 425 ; cp. ' The King's Sergeants,' pp. 121, 
322) Also it may be doubted whether a 
grandson of Durand de Gloucester would 
have been of age to act as Chamberlain even 
in 1101. And if the Herbert of 1086 were 

the brother of Roger de Gloucester, his 
descendants, the Fitzherberts, would have 
been Roger's heirs ; unless Roger himself 
left a daughter. G. H. WHITE. 

23 Weighton Road, Anerley. 



She sate like Patience on a monument 
Smiling at grief. 

The sense is, She, smiling at grief ^suffer- 
ing), sat like Patience on a monument. Is 
the figure a likely invention of the poet ? 
Does it recall some allegory, or has it any 
other origin ? What explanation can be 
given of the idea T TOM JONES. 

'Musical Companion,' 1667, there are settings 
of four songs from Shakespeare : ' What Shall 
He Have that Killed the Deer ? ' ' Jog On, 
Jog on, the Footpath Way,' ' Where the Bee 
Sucks," ' Orpheus with His Lute.' The 
text follows the Folio, except that Autoly - 
cus's song has two extra stanzas : 
Yon paltry Moneybags of Gold 

What need have we to stare for .' 
When little or nothing soon is told, 
And we have the less to care for ? 
Cast care away, let sorrow cease, 

A fig for Melaccholy. 
Let's laugh and sing, or if you please, 

We'll frolick with sweet Molly. 
However unimportant, they are worth 
indicating. H. DAVEY. 

89 Montpelier Road, Brighton. 

' HAMLET,' I. iv. 36-8 (12 S. iv. 211 ; v. 4, 
115) _it was Theobald who, having regard 
to the proper interpretation of the passage, 
first altered "eale" into "base," an emenda- 
tion that was afterwards adopted by Heath, 
Malone, Steevens, and Singer ; but though 
the right sense is thus obtained, the 
phrase "dram of base" jars somewhat 
on the ear, as well as being unpoetic in 
expression. To overcome this difficulty . 
would therefore propose "lees, a word 
that might easily have been mistaken m 
copying for " eale." What lends probability 
to this reading, as well as to the substitution 
" overdaub " for " of a doubt " (as suggested 
ante, p. 4), is the existence of a practice 
evidently known to the acting profession of 
bygone days, if not to the present generation, 
which is described in a quotation of the 
vear 1763 given in that invaluable granary 
of English speech, the ' N.E.D.' : " Thespis 
and his Company bedaubed their Faces with 

112 8. VI. JAN., 1920.] 


the Lees of Wine " (J. Brown, ' Poetry and 
Music '). In the present case the circum- 
stance would appear to have been skilfully 
made use of by the dramatist at the close of 
Hamlet's colloquy with Horatio on the 
excesses of the Danish soldiery, the effects of 
intemperance, and the kindred ills resulting 
"from any defect of body or mind in, man 
just as Hamlet is about to be brought face 
to face with the apparition of his murdered 
"father. One can easily imagine what a 
tour deforce might be produced at the closing 
of Hamlet's moralizing with the words : 

The dram of lees 

Doth all the noble substance overdaub 
To its own scandal, 

on the spell-bound audience by the re-entry 
of the Ghost ! one of those dramatic effects 
of which Shakespeare is an acknowledged 

Since writing at the penultimate reference, 
I find that Elze, in his ' Notes on Elizabethan 
Dramatists,' 1889, p. 226, cites several 
instances of the word " daub's " occurrence 
in Ben Jonson, Beaumont and Fletcher, and 
Nash. He states, too, that a Mr. Samuel 
N>eil, who published an edition of Shake- 
speare's ' Works,' had also proposed the 
reading " over daube," seemingly without 
having got the idea from Elze. The latter 
concludes with the remark : " Some Eliza- 
bethan authority for the verb ' overdaub ' 
would be welcome." 

In Bolchier's ' Invisible Comedy of Hans' 
Beer Pot ' (Elze, loc. cit., p. 252) the couplet 
occurs : 

Enough, myladde, wilt drink an ocean? 
Methinks a whirlpool cannot ore drinke me, 

which goes to show that the preposition was 
not always directly connected with the verb 
in Elizabethan orthography ; though such 
compounds as " overfear," " overlaw," 
" overquell," " oversnow," " overthink," 
" overyoke " are to be met with, and the 
examples " o'er growth " and " o'er 
leavens " occur a few lines earlier in this 
very speech of Hamlet's. 

The ' N.E.D.' gives no instance of " base " 
used as a noun to support Theobald's 
reading. N. W. HILL. 

35 Woburn Place, W.C.I. 


(12 S. v. 5, 116). There are several sets of 

rime lines known to country folk about the 

magpie, or "pynet" as it is commonly 

called in Derbyshire, and the best known in 

the Midlands are those given by Mr. PAGE. 

' The most sinister lines I have met with 

I found current in North Notts, in a small 
village, which run : 

One for sorrow, 

Two for mirth, 

Three for a wedding, 

Four a birth ; 

Five for a parson, 

Six for a clerk, 

Seven for a babe 

Buried in the dark. 
Another ending is 

Five for England, 
Six for France, 
Seven for a fiddler. 
Eight for a dance. 

A very satisfactory and pastoral ending. 
Another Derbyshire saying : 

I see one magpie. 

May the devil take the magpie, 

An' God take me. 

Derbyshire children sixty years ago were 
taught to dread the sight of a single magpie , 
to spit over the extended forefinger of the 
left hand and make a cross on the ground 
with their shoe toe, if the bird crossed their 
path when on the way to school ; but if the 
bird flew straight ahead to keep right on. 
Other children instead of this turned back 
as it was unlucky to go on. To see two or 
more was deemed the best of luck and a 
good augury. THOS. RATCLIFFE. 

(12 S. v. 202.) 

' Tempest,' I. ii. 81 : 

To trash for over-topping. 

Most editors retain the word trash and 
explain the line as to lop for over-topping, 
i.e., to cut off the heads of rebellious spirits. 
Plash was proposed by Hanmer ; but so far it 
has not come into favour. N. W. HILL. 

' Tempest,' V. i., Ariel's song. The only 
fault I find with this song is the rather 
too big break between the third and fourth 
lines. Would it be better if only a comma 
was put after the third line, and " or " 
added to the beginning of the fourth 
deleting, of course, also its unnecessary 
" do " before " fly " ? The song would then 
go thus : 

Where the bee sucks, there suck I, 

In a cowslip's bell 1 lie, 

There I couch when owls do cry, 

Or on the bat's back I fly 

After summer merrily, &o. 

I see no need for the introduction of the 
swallow. The bat is nearly as much a 
follower of summer as the " temple- 
haunting martlet." W. H. PINCHBECK. 

NOTES AND QUERIES. [i* j A x.,i92o. 

' 1 Henry IV.,' II. iv. 201. Dyce says the 
editions prior to 1639 have " and unbound 
the rest, and then come in the other," 
instead of " came in," which makes good 
English, and does not seemingly call for 
correction. N. W. 

'Measure for Measure,' II. ii. The emenda- 
tion " glassy semblance " for " glassy 
essence" proposed by MB. H. DAVEY 
does not agree with the context. It would 
read thus: 

But man, proud man, 
Drest in a little brief authority ; 
Most ignorant of what he's most; assur'd, 
His glassy semblance. 

MB. DAVEY, however, connects it with the 
following context, and suggests there is a 
reference to an ape looking in a glass. 
The above reason, and the idea of com- 
paring " high heaven " to a looking-glass, 
while leaving the angels altogether out of it, 
shows the emendation to be wrong. 

The semblance to an ape is to cast ridicule 
upon the part Angelo is playing, assuming 
to be good, and being wicked at the same 
time. This " glassy essence " is his frailty. 
This essence is as brittle and as frail as 
glass. Compare Act II. scene iv. on the 
same subject, where Angelo observes : 
" Women are frail too." To which Isabella 
promptly replies : " Ay, as the glasses where 
they view themselves ; which are as easy 
broke as they make forms." 


His glassy essence, like an angry ape. 
A good deal has already been said in 
' N. & Q.' on this head, particularly at 
10 S. v. 465, where I myself gave grounds 
for interpreting the crux as image, em- 
bodiment, or likeness seen in a glass. The 
substantive by itself is used in another 
somewhat enigmatic passage in ' Two Gentle- 
men of Verona,' III. i. 182 : 

She is my essence, and I leave to be, 
where, however, the word may be identical 
with " essential." 

While not prepared to prefer the alteration 
of essence to MR. DAVEY'S reading semblance, 
the latter word, I may observe, occurs in 
two other passages that show important 
.points of contact with the present one : 

Oft have I seen a timely-parted ghost, 

Of ashy semblance, meagre, pale, and bloodless, 

Being all descended to the labouring heart ...... 

(2 Henry VI. III. ii.) 

This is a similar instance of ellipsis to the 
one in Isabella's speech, bloodless being 
made to do duty for an implied substantive 

blood, which is needed for the construing of " 
he line which follows; and a speech of the 
Duchess of York, ' Richard III.,' II. ii. 54, 
may be cited as throwing light on the 
pithet, glassy or glassed, as MB. DAVEY 
prefers to call it : 

I have bewept a worthy husband's death, 
And liv'd with looking on his images ; 
But now two mirrors of his princely semblance 
Are crack'd in pieces by malignant death, 
And I for comfort have but one false glass.* 

I would merely add that I consider MB. 

DAVEY'S readings signiors for oneyerf 
1 Henry IV.), and contracts for cohorts 
King Lear '), well justified, and to the 

point. N. W. HELL. 

" His glassy essence " has nothing to do 
with " an angry ape." It is the subject of " 
the previous line, " Most ignorant of what 
he's most assured." "Glassy" means 
glass -like, brittle, frail, easily broken. 


and iii. There is na- 
Fair is foul, and foul is 

' Macbeth,' I. i. 
obscurity to me in ' 
fair." It is the witches' motto. What is 
fair to ordinary mortals is foul to them, and 
what is foul is fair. Evil is their good. 
Macbeth' s " So foul and fair a day I have not 
seen " is quite within the truth of things. 
It is possible for the weather of a day to be, . 
as it were, in layers of foul and fair : thunder- 
storms with bright intervals, bright intervals 
which make the weather-wise say : " Ah ! it 
has cleared too quick ; it's too bright ; we 
shall have another storm." The bleeding 
sergeant in sc. ii. seems to refer indirectly 
to the battle-day weather, when, in his 
description of the fight, he says to Duncan : 

As whence the sun 'gins his reflection 
Ship-wrecking storms and direful thunders break, 
So from that spring whence comfort seemed to 


Discomfort swells. 

Perhaps the fair and foul day symbolizes the 
mixture of fair and foul in the person of 
Macbeth. W. H. PINCHBECK. 

78 Brierly Street, Fishpool, Bury. 

' Romeo and Juliet,' III. ii. 6 : 
That runaways' eyes may wink. 
Though runagate is a very obvious sub- 
stitute, being a word that at that time was 
synonymous with "runaway," the smooth- 
ness of the verse is not improved thereby ; 
and this is always a matter of first import- 
ance in dealing with Shakespeare's text. The 
same remark applies to other readings, such 

* Her son Gloster. 

128. VI. 



-as " rude Day's," " enemies'," " Rum our' s 
yes," &c. Zachary Jackson's emendation, 
unawares (see Furne^s 'edition, p. 369), has 
a plausible look, inasmuch as it is both 

grammatical and comprehensible ; but there 
is much force, I think, in Dyce's objection 
that he did not believe Shakespeare ever 
wrote it. 

Runaway, though now archaic, was a very 
common expression in Shakespeare's day. 

1 1n ' Merchant of Venice,' II. vi. 47, we have 

For the close night doth play the runaway, 
and in ' Richard III.,' V. iii. 360 : 

A sort of vagabonds, rascals, runaways. 
For this reason the safest course probably 
is to leave the passage intact. Juliet was 

-certainly exercising her wit in an endeavour 
to distinguish between Cupid's undoubted 
Tights and the encroachments of sensual 
cupidity. The only suggestion I can offer 
in the case is " Cynthia's eyes," seeing that 
two effulgent deities, Phoebus and Phaeton, 
have been alluded to in the preceding lines, 
so that a goddess of the night might be 
fittingly invoked, compaie the phrase 

"glimpses of the moon" in 'Hamlet.' 
For the series of interminable arguments 

on this passage see the Appendix to the 
Furness edition of the play. 

N. W. 

The god of day traversing the heavens in 
a chariot drawn by fiery-footed steeds is a 
concrete description of the sun personified. 
*' Runaways' eyes," meaning the same 
thing, is abstract. The sense makes it clear. 
Juliet urges the horses to put on more speed 
and end the day at once. She wants the 
night to come immediately. As an alter- 
native she impatiently calls upon night to 
darken the sky that the sun god may close 
his eyes, and end the day. " Runaway " 
is an abstract noun of motion. The flight of 
time is termed a " runaway." So, relatively, 
It can be said of the sun in his flight across the 
sky. TOM JONES. 


(See 10 S. xi., xii. ; 11 S. i.-xii. ; 12 S. 
i.-iv. passim ; v. 89, 145, 259.) 

ROYAL PERSONAGES (continued). 

Charles I. Westminster Hall. Tablets 
upon flight of steps leading to St. Stephen' 
Porch, with inscriptions : 

" This Tablet marks the spot where Charles 
Stuart, King of England, stood before the Court 

which sat pursuant to the ordinance for erecting 
a High Court of Justice for his trial, which was 

*ead the first, second, and third time, and passed 

by Parliament on the 4th January, 1648 /9. 
The Court met on Saturday the 20th, Monday the 

22nd, Tuesday the 23rd, and on Saturday the 
27th January, 1648 /9, when the sentence of 
death was pronounced upon the King. 

" The trial of the King was, by order of the 

tourt, held where the Courts of King's Bench 
and Chancery sat in Westminster Hall, and this 
Tablet marks the position of the Bar that 
separated those Courts from the length of the 

M. Venizelos referred to these tablets in his 
speech after his recent return to power in 

Charles II. Lichfield Cathedral (see US. 
x. 278). 

William III. College Green, Dublin. Por- 
tion of old Dame Gate was utilized in 
making the pedestal. A document referring 
bo one of its many mutilations is exhibited 
in the P.R.O., Dublin. The statue is made 
of lead, of about a quarter of an inch in 
thickness, supported on an internal frame- 
work of iron, some portions being solid 
[Gilbert's ' History of Dublin,' vol. iii., 
p. 40). On the south side is an inscription : 

Gulielmo Tertio ; 
Magnae Britannise, Francise et Hibernise 

ob Religionem conservatam 

Bestitutas leges 
libertatem assertam 
cives Dublinienses hanc statuam 

On the west side : 

This Historic Monument 

having fallen into decay 

was restored at the cost of the city 

Anno Domini 1890 
under authority of resolution 
moved by Councillor W. J. Doherty, C.E.,J.P. 
and unanimously adopted by the Municipal 


at its meeting of the 1st Nov.* 1899 

The Right Hon. Thomas Sexton, M.P. 

Lord Mayor. 

The inscription on the north side is given 
at 12 S. i. 473. 

In front of the Tontine Buildings, Glasgow, 
equestrian statue, presented to the city in 
1736 by James Macrae. There are busts of 
William and Mary at The Hague by Ver- 
hulst and Blommendael, and a statue of 
Mary on the exterior of the Hotel Russell, 
London. National Museum Dublin, white 
marble bust on pedestal of coloured marble, 
with inscriptions 

The Gift of Governor John 

Peree, to the Aldermen of 

Skinner's Alley 4th of Sept. 



NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. JAN., 

Had some fam'd Hero of the Latin Blood 
Like Brutus Great or like Camillus good 
But thus preserv'd the Latian Liberty 
Aspiring Columns soon Had reach'd the skys 
Loud Joy the proud Capitol had shook 
The statues of the Guardian Gods had spoke. 

This Bust and Pedestal 
ere repaired at the desire 
of Alderman King, Gov. 
in the year 1814. 

Ferns Castle, Wexford. In 1864, beneath 
the eastern window of the chapel stood 
an equestrian statue of William III. In a 
niche at the upper end of the hall of the 
Bank of England is a statue with Latin 
inscription which may be rendered in 
English : 

For restoring efficiency to the Laws ; 
Authority to the Courts of Justice, 
Dignity to the Parliament, 

To all his subjects their Religion and Liberties, 
And confirming them to Posterity, 
By the succession of the Illustrious House of 


To the British Throne : 
To the best of Princes, William the Third, 
Pounder of the Bank, 

This Corporation, from a sense of Gratitude, 
Has erected this statue, 
And dedicated it to his memory. 
In the year of our Lord MDCCXXXTV. 
And the first year of this Building. 

Anne. It was intended to erect statues 
of this queen in Cavendish Square and in 
front of St. Mary-le-Strand. There is a statue 
on the exterior of Hotel Russell. 

George I. Equestrian statue opposite 
north front of mansion, Stowe, Bucks. 

George II. In niche on front of Weavers' 
Hall, Dublin, with inscription : 

Georgius II. 


Grand Parade, Cork, equestrian statue of 
" one of the Georges" ; another equestrian 
statue of George II. on r the South Mall. Are 
these statues still there (Wright's ' Irelane 
Illustrated,' 1831) ? 

In centre of St. Stephen's Green Park, 
Dublin, bronze equestrian statue, erected 
1758, originally on pedestal some 20 ft. 
square (in Malton's view), in 1815 a smaller 
pedestal was substituted. In November, 
1815, the Royal Dublin Society asked the 
Dublin Corporation for permission to remove 
the statue to Kildare Street, but their 
request was refused; this statue has been 
often attacked and mutilated. The present 

Inscription (on front of pedestal) is as fol- 
lows : 

Georgio Secundo 
Magna^Britania Francia 
et Hibernia 

Forti et Republica 

Maxime fideli 

Patriis yirtutibus 

Patroni secuio 

S. P. Q. D. 

A.n. 1758. 

Thomas Me&d, Pratore Urbano 

Michael Bweny, vice comitibus 

William Forbes. 

(See also 12 S. ii. 29, 93, 155, 238.) 

Berkeley Square, equestrian statue of 
George II. being represented as Marcus 
Aurelius. Executed by Beaupre under the 
direction of Wilton, erected by Princess 
Amelia in 1766, removed in 1827. 

Stratford Place, column supporting a statue 
of George, commemorative of the naval vic- 
tories of Great Britain. Erected by General 
Strode, taken down in 1805 as unsafe. 

Council Chamber, Guildhall, white marble 
statue by Chantrey, erected in old Council 
Chamber, 1815, afterwards removed to new 
chamber, cost 3,089Z. 

At junction of Cockspur Street and Pall 
Mall (10 S. ix. 103), equestrian statue of 
varnished bronze, pedestal of Portland stone, 
by M. C. Wyatt. The king is represented in 
cocked hat and pig-tail on his favourite 
harger. The statue is mentioned in ' The 
Ingoldsby Legends,' 3rd series (' A Lay of 
St. Ronwold ' ) : 

Like the statue that stands, cast in copper, a 

Few yards south-east of the door of the Opera, 
Save that Alured's horse had not got such a big 

While Alured wanted the cock'd hat and pig-tail. 

George III. Somerset House, in the 
quadrangle is a bronze statuary group upou- 
a stone pedestal, the upper part contains a. 
statue of the king in Pvoman costume, by 
John Bacon, erected 1780. 

London Museum, bronze statuette ascribed 
to Joseph Nollekens and coloured plaster 
statuette published by F. Hardenberg, 1820. 

There are busts in Goldsmith's Hall, 
Trinity House, by Tunerelli (80 copies of 
this were made), Trinity College Library, 
Dublin (Tunerelli), Society of Antiquaries 
Bacon), National Gallery of Ireland (Edward 

City Hall, Dublin, bronze statue in Roman- 
military costume on white marble pedestal, 
by Van Nost. This statue was presented to 
the merchants k by Hugh Percy, Earl o 

12 S. VI. JAN., 1920.] 


Northumberland, and cost 2,000 guineas., 
.In 1906 a majority of the Dublin Corporation 
.voted its removal for the following reasons : 
-(1) it is a statue of an English monarch ; 
>(2) he is represented as " a Roman High- 
lander "; (3) that it was the work of a 
Dutchman. The statue is still there. On 
jthe front of the pedestal : 

Georgio III. 

M. B. F. et H. Regi 

Optimo principi 

Hugo Percy 
Northumbrise comes 

Hibernise pro Rex 

Pro sua in ci\ r . Dubl. 



P. H. C. 
On back of pedestal : 

Hugoni Percy 
Northumb. comiti 

Granti animi 
Hoc qualecunque. 

Bank of Ireland, Dublin. White marble 
^statue by John Bacon, occupies the position 
of the throne in the old Irish House of Lords, 
erected at the expense of the Governors and 
Company of the Bank at a cost of 2,OOOZ. 

Charlotte. Bust in Trinity House. 

49 Nansen Road, Lavender Hill, S.W. 11. 

"EBYNGO" AND " EBUCA." My old 
friend and correspondent the late Canon 
Ellacombe will be remembered chiefly as a 
horticulturist and botanist ; but he was also 
a man of classical erudition beyond ordinary. 
It is strange, therefore, that he should have 
missed the significance of Falstaffs allusion 
to " eringoes " when he met Mrs. Ford and 
Mrs. Page in Windsor Park : 

" Let the sky rain potatoes ; let it thunder 
to the tune of Green Sleeves, hail kissing comfits 
.and snow eringoes." ' Merry Wives,' v. 5. 

In his ' Plant-Lore of Shakespeare,' Canon 
Ellacombe, after noting that Gerard ex- 
plained " eringoes " as the candied roots of 
; the sea holly (Eryngium maritimum), pro- 
ceeds : 

" I am inclined to think that the vegetable 
Falstaff wished for was the globe artichoke, 
which is a near relative of the eryngium, was a 
"favourite diet in Shakespeare's time, and was 
reputed to have certain special virtues which are 
not attributed to the sea holly, but which would 
more accord with FalstafE's character." 

Now, herein the learned Canon not only 
.makes a slip in botany, for the globe arti- 
. choke and the sea holly are far from being 
.nearly akin, the first belonging to the 
iCompositce or daisy order and the second to 

the Umbelliferce or hemlock order ; but he 
misses the point of Falstaffs mention of 
" eringoes " in a list of incentives to ama- 
tiveness. Whether Shakespeare referred to 
the Virginian potato (Battata Virginianorum) 
or the Spanish potato (Convolvulus battatas), 
both were believed to possess aphrodisiac 
properties ; and for several centuries the 
eryngo, whereof our native sea holly 
(Eryngium maritimum) is a familiar species, 
has borne the same reputation. But it seems 
certain that it acquired its reputation through 
being confounded with a cruciferous plant 
bearing the somewhat similar name of Eruca. 

The ' N.E.D.' gives Falstaffs speech above 
quoted as the earliest occurrence of " eringo " 
in English literature, the date of the ' Merry 
Wives ' being 1598. Pliny, in discoursing of 
erynge sine eryngion (' Nat. Hist.,' lib. xxii. 
cap. 7), mentions it as an effective remedy 
against the venom of snakes and other 
poisons, but has not a word to say about it 
as an aphrodisiac, nor do I know of any 
Latin or Greek writer who attributes such 
properties to this herb. Pliny, however, in 
the next chapter (xxii. 8) describes a plant 
called Centum capita with white flowers, 
which he seems to regard as a species of 
Eryngion, and repeats what he has heard re- 
ported about it as "portentous," namely, 
that if a man find the root it acts as a 
powerful charm in his favour with women, 
though Pliny recommends a decoction of the 
root, not as an aphrodisiac, but as a remedy 
for a variety of maladies. On'the other hand 
he writes confidently of Eruca as concitatrix 
veneris (lib. xix. cap. 8), and allusions to that 
plant (now known to botanists as Eruca 
sativa) occur in many authors. Ovid men- 
tions it in his ' Remedium amoris ' as food 
to be avoided : 

Nee minus erucas aptum est vitare salaces. 
Martial recommends its use : 

Concitat ad Venerem tardos eruca maritos. 
Columella says it should be sown near the 
effigy of Priapus in gardens. 

It seems to me that Shakespeare, in mak- 
ing Falstaff call for it to " snow eringoes," 
referred only to the root as a charm, not as 
an aphrodisiac decoction ; but a confusion of 
Eryngo with Eruca certainly had taken place 
before the close of the sixteenth century, and 
the reputed properties of Eruca came, through 
mistaking the name, to be assigned to Eryngo. 
Nor is there any cause for supposing that 
this made the slightest difference in the effect 
of the drug, the prescription being in each 
case empirical or quack. 




ORLEANS. I am indebted to Miss Doris 
Kent, a contributor to The New Orleans 
Times-Picayune, writing under date Nov. 16, 
for the following notes : 

Less than a year ago the City Association 
of Commerce recommended that the old 
French quarter, or Vieux Carre, particularly 
in the environs of Jackson Square, should be 
restored as the centre for the art life of the 

The Women's Suffrage Party of Louisiana 
and the War State Thrift Campaign use as 
headquarters the old building erected to 
house the first Louisiana Bank in 1816, and 
in this residence Paul Charles Morphy, the 
world's chess champion, was born. He was 
the son of a Louisiana Supreme Court Justice 
and Mile. De Carpentier, a beautiful Creole 
belle. At the age of 10 he was a chess 
prodigy, and when, at 13, the renowned 
Hungarian chess-player Lowenthal visited 
the city Morphy easily beat him. At 20 he 
entered the First American Chess Congress at 
New York, winning 97 out of 100 games. 
Later he went to Paris and London, and on 
his return to Boston Oliver Wendell Holmes, 
Louis Agassiz, and Henry Wadsworth Long- 
fellow were guests at a great banquet given 
in his honour. New Orleans presented him 
with a set of chessmen in gold and silver. 
He died from a chill, when still a young man, 
in the house in which he was born. 

The Petit Theatre de Vieux Carre embraces 
part of the once beautiful apartments 
designed by the Baronne de Pontalba, the 
brilliant Creole daughter of Don Almonaster 
y Roxas, the builder of the Cabildo, the old 
Spanish law court, which still exists. The 
lady, after jilting one of the most important 
citizens, left New Orleans for France, and 
married the Baron de Pontalba. On her 
husband's death, she returned to New Orleans 
and erected the house in Jackson Square so 
much admired by artists, with its exquisite 
wrought iron railings, bearing her monogram 
as the central design. She also laid out the 
square after a favourite garden of Marie 
Antoinette, which she had admired in 

The old residence at 500 Chartres Street 
is called the battered monument to French 
loyalty. It was built by Nicholas Girod to 
shelter Napoleon in 1821, and he and his 
friends also constructed and fitted out a 
swift ship, the Seraphine, with which to 
rescue the Emperor from the British at 
St. Helena. Capt. Boissiere, a famous 
mariner, was placed in command, assisted 
by Dominick You, an ex-pirate. But when 

all was nearly ready Napoleon died, and word 
reached America just in- time to prevent 
the sailing of the little ship on her mission.. 
A negro bar-room and tenements now 
occupy the house designed for the Emperor' s*- 

Many other famous old houses still 'exist' 
in New Orleans, one containing the first 
newspaper pressroom remaining in! the- 
United States, now easily the greatest, 
newspaper country in the world. 


Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey.. 

rare thin quarto by James Holbert Wilson,, 
describing the contents of " Portfolio 17," 
actually prints and drawings relating to- 
Fleet Street, &c., has no identification ofV 

I recently came across the author's copy 
in which the printers' account was pre- 
served. Dated May 7, 1862, Messrs. Strange- 
ways & Walden of 28 Castl& Street, Leicester- 
Square, charge : 

Comp(ositio)n of 40 pp. and working 

J5 copies on thick superfine paper ... 2913 0' 

Corrections and cancelled matter ... 5 12 0" 

Doing up 12 copies (Is.) 12 0- 

35 17 0" 

51 Rutland Park Mansions, N.W.2. 

1842. I observe at 12 S. v. 288 a reference 
to Archdeacon Wrangham as the supposed! 
author of the epigram on Jowett and his- 
garden. An odd mistake as to the Arch- 
deacon has come recently under my notice 
in searching for an engraved portrait. 
Wrangham' s portrait was painted by J. 
Jackson and engraved by R. Hicks, and 
formed a plate in Jordan's set. Upon th& 
plate is the designation " F.S-A." A search 
shows no record that Wrangham was ever a 
Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries or that 
he was ever proposed. He was elected a. 
Fellow of the Royal Society in 1804. Tho 
British Museum Catalogue repeats the error, 
which can be understood. It is well to> 
record it in C N. & Q.' to prevent a repetition.. 


12 S. v. 171, 214.) I may state that the- 
Stepney Church of St. Dunstan's, painted 
" for the Gentlemen of the Stepney Vestry," 
with the " Trinity " Mansion, in Durham* 
Row on the left of the churchyard, is. 

12 S. VI. JAN., 1920.] 


i reproduced as an engraving on p. 1353 in Mait- 
iand's ' History of London,' 1760 edition. 
Maitland's big volumes are otherwise notable 
ior furnishing valuable particulars regarding 
down-Thames London in the middle of the 
eighteenth century not included in the 
labours of other antiquaries and historians 
of that era. " Row," it should be added 
in the Old Stepney Manor at least 
generally implies that there are houses on 
one side only of the way or path. Durham 
Row, it must be understood, furnished quite 
unhindered access to Stepney churchyard 
and church. The " Trinity " formal pro- 
fessions to St. Dunstan's were simply a 
saunter from the main entrance of their 
mansion as is seen in the ' Diary ' of 

Master Samuel Pepys. 


" STINTING." The earliest occurrence of 
this word in the ' N.E.D.' with the meaning 
of the allotments of stints, that is, pasturage 
for a limited number of cattle, according to 
kind, allotted to each definite portion into 
which pasture or common land is divided, 
as 1641, and the word " stintage," with the 
same meaning, occurs in that year. Both 
words were found in use in North Yorkshire. 
The word was in use at a much earlier date. 
In a conveyance of land at West Raxen, in 
North Lincolnshire, dated 1439, is included 
" vnumstyntyng ae demidiam acram prati." 

W. B. 

*OF MELANCHOLY.' I have Sir Samuel 
Egerton Brydges's copy of Sam Patterson's 
'* Bibliotheca Universalis Selecta ' (sale cata- 
logue, May 8, 1786, and thirty-five following 
days), with his autograph (May, 1805). The 
worthy baronet and antiquarian wrote on 
the fly-leaf : " Burton's ' Anatomy of Melan- 
choly ' is classified as Medical ! p. 263." 
'This is a fact. Sam Patterson was con- 
sidered by his bibliophile contemporaries a 
~very learned auctioneer, but he was evidently 
^unacquainted with Burton's 'Anatomy.' 
.36 Somerleyton Road, Brixton, S.W. 

1868 (4 S. i. 568) a contributor wrote that 
usage of the above was especially frequent 
in the time of Queen Elizabeth. An instance 
a, hundred years later is in Leicestershire and 
Rutland Notes and Queries, ii. 309, in the 
parish register of Belgrave : " 1705, Oct. 9. 
Pentecost Hastings was buried." 

W. B, H. 

We must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

v. 234, 275). I should be grateful for 
elucidations or references explaining any of 
this second batch of puzzles from the above 
work. References given here to pages and 
lines follow the "World's Classics " Editiop. 
Phrases in brackets are my own : 

1. P. 41, 1. 9. [The English] think, with Henri 
Quatre, that manly exercises are the foundation 
of that elevation of mind which gives one nature 
ascendancy over another ; or, with the Arabs, that 
the days spent in the chase are not counted in the 
length of life. [Can any source be suggested for 
either of these two references. I thought the 
reference to Henri IV. would be from Sully's 
' Memoirs,' but I have not yet discovered it.] 

2. P. 41, 1. 31. These men have written the 
game-books of all countries, as Hawker, Scrope, 
Murray, Herbert, Maxwell, Gumming, and a host 
of travellers. [I can identify four of these as 
authors of game-books ; but can any one tell me 
what Murray or what Maxwell wrote such books, 
and what are the titles of their chief works ?] 

3. P. 43, 1. 33. The Phoenician, the Celt, and 
the Goth, had already got in [i.e., into Britain 
before the Romans]. [Are there any traces of 
Phoenician settlements in Britain or is Emerson 
misrepresenting the trading relationships ? Was 
there ever any Gothic incursion, or is this reference 
due to confusion with the Goidelic Celts ?] 

4. P. 50, 1. 23. [Napoleon's remark] " that he 
had noticed that Providence always favoured the 
heaviest battalion." [A familiar quotation, but 
can any one give me an authoritative reference 
for it ?] 

5. P. 51, 1. 6. Lord Collingwood was accus 
tomed to tell his men, that, if they could fire three 
well-directed broadsides in five minutes, no vessel 
could resist them ; and, from constant practice, 
they came to do it in three minutes and a half. 
[Any reference ? I cannot find it in Collingwood's 
' Correspondence and Memoirs.'] 

6. P. 53, 1. 1. " To show capacity," a French- 
man described as the end of a speech in debate : 
" No," said an Englishman, " but to set your 
shoulder at the wheel to advance the business." 
[Any reference for either remark ?] 

7. P. 55, 1. 35. The Mark-Lane Express. [Is 
this still published ? What is, or was, its 
nature ?] 

8. P. 57, 1. 36. Sir Samuel Romilly's expedient 
for clearing the arrears of business in Chancery, 
was the Chancellor's staying away entirely from 
his court. [Did Romilly ever make any such 
suggestion ?] 

9. P. 58, 1. 22. It is the maxim of their 
economists, " that the greater part in value of the 
wealth now existing in England has been produced 
by human hands within the last twelve months.' ' 
[Is this a verbatim quotation from some writer 
on economics before 1856 ?] 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi JAH., 1920.^ 

10. P. 59, 1. 9. The Danish poet Ohlenschlager 
complains, that who writes in Danish, writes to 
two hundred readers. [Did Ohlenschlager make 
this complaint ? Its substance is flatly contra- 
dicted by Laing's ' Observations on the Social 
and Political State of Denmark' (1852), where, 
at p. 353, Laing states that the Danish language 
escaped being divided into two languages, as 
happened in Germany, and that Danish, like 
English, " is essentially the same in the mouth of 
prince or peasant."] 

11. P. 64, 1. 39. Mr. Cobbett attributes the 
huge popularity of Perceval, Prime Minister in 
1810, to the fact that he was wont to go to church, 
every Sunday, with a large quarto gilt prayer- 
book under one arm, his wife hanging on the other, 
and followed by a long brood of children. [Does 
this appear in any of Cobbett's works ? Is his 
statement about Perceval true ?] 

12. P. 65, 1. 37. The barons say, " Nolumus 
mutari." [What was the historical occasion of 
this refusal ?] 

13. P. 65, 1. 40. Bacon told them, " Time was 
the right reformer " ; . . . .Canning, to " advance 
with the times " ; and Wellington, that " habit 
was ten times nature." [References desired for 
all three quotations.] 

14. P. 69, 1. 23. The Northman Guttorm said 
to King Olaf : " It is royal work to fulfil royal 
words." [Reference desired.] 

15. P. 69, 1. 35. Even Lord Chesterfield, 

when he came to define a gentleman, declared that 
truth made his distinction. [Reference desired.] 

16. P. 70, 1. 28. Madame de Stael says, that the 
English irritated Napoleon, mainly, because they 
have found out how to unite success with honesty. 
[Reference desired.] 

17. P. 71, 1. 14. On the King's birthday 

Latimer gave Henry VIII. a copy of the Vulgate, 
with a mark at the passage : " Whoremongers and 

adulterers God will judge " ; and the King 

passed it over. [Is this story true ? Any 
authoritative reference for it ?] 

18. P. 73, 1. 13. English wit comes afterwards 
which the French denote as esprit cTescalier. [Is 
the originator of this phrase known ?] 

19. Pp. 73 and 74. [Can any one give me the 
names of the central figures in two stories told 
by Emerson to illustrate our hard-headedness : 
(a) of a man who deposited 100Z. note in a sealed 
box in the Dublin Bank for six months, and 
advertised unsuccessfully for any somnambulist, 
mesmerizer, medium, &c., to win the note by 
telling him its number ; (6) of " a good Sir John " 
(sic Emerson) who was hopelessly perplexed by 
hearing both sides of a case stated by counsel, and 
exclaimed : " So help me God ! I will never listen 
to evidence again " ?] 

20. P. 74, 1. 8. I knew a very worthy man a 
magistrate, I believe he was, in the town of 

Derby Mr. B. [In December, 1847, Emerson 

spent two nights at Derby with a Mr. W. Birch. 
Was he a magistrate ? Is there any corroboration 
of Emerson's story that Mr. B. interrupted an 
opera by protesting that a bridge on the stage 
was unsafe ?] 

21. P. 75, 1. 32. " Ils s'amusaient tristement, 
selon la coutume de leur pays," said Froissart 
[of the English]. [Reference desired.] 

22. P. 77, 1. 24. Wellington said of the young 
coxcombs of the Life Guards delicately brought 
up, " but the puppies fight well " ; and Nelson 

said of his sailors : " They really mind shot no< 
more than peas." [References desired.] 

23. P. 78, 1. 8. The Bohon Upas. [The legend 1 
of the Upas-tree is familiar : but what is the- 
literal meaning of the words " Bohon " and; 
" Upas " ?] 

24. P. 78, 1. 9. At Naples they [i.e., the hard- 
headed English] put St. Januarius' blood in an 
alembic. [The story of St. Januarius is familiar ;. 
but have Englishmen ever attempted to analyse 
the contents of the phial believed to contain his- 
blood ?] 

25. P. 78, 1. 11. They saw a hole into the head 
of the " winking Virgin," to know why she winks... 
[I should be particularly glad to track down this- 
" winking Virgin " ; she has baffled many a learned 
friend of mine.] 

26. P. 78, 1. 19. [Englishmen! translate and 
send to Bentley the arcanum bribed and bullied 
away from shuddering Brahmins. [Would this be 
more likely to refer to Rev. Richard Bentley the 
scholar (1662-1742), orto Rev. Richard Bentley the 
publisherof ' Bentley's Miscellany ' (1794-1871), our 
to Samuel Bentley the antiquary (1785-1868) ?] 

-" 27. P. 78, 1. 34. What was said two hundred) 
years ago, of one particular Oxford scholar : " He- 
was a very bold man, uttered anything that came 
into his mind, not only among his companions, 
but in public coffee-houses-, and would often speak. - 
his mind of particular persons' then accidentally 
present, without examining the company he 
was in ; for which he was- often reprimanded, and 
several times threatened to be kicked and beaten." 
^ Reference desired.} 

(Rev.) R. FLETCHEB. 
Buckland Faringdon, Berks. 

ELIZABETHAN BOOKS. I would be obliged to- 
anyone who can give me the name of any. 
work on this subject. 


Eastry, Kent. 

BRAMBLE. Can any of your readers kindly 
inform me what is the origin of the surname 
Bramble, and in what county it is known ? 
I should be very grateful for any informa,- 
tion. P. BRAMBLE.. 

Caister on Sea, Great Yarmouth. 

BUTTON. Richard Hutton " of Lincoln's- 
Inn, Gentleman," made a will 20 Oct., 1721 
[P.C.C. 235 Richmond], proved 15 Nov., 1723', 
in favour, among others, of Charity his 
sister, wife of Simon Michell [b. 1676, Member 
of the Middle Temple, 1704, of Lincoln's Inn*. 
22 Oct., 1714, d. 30 Aug., 1750, buried,, 
portrait and M.I. at St. John's, Clerkenwell, . 
f which he was a benefactor]. Charity was 
. circa 1669 and d. 2 March, 1745. Richard' 
Hutton was not a member of Lincoln's Inn.. 
He leaves a legacy of IQl. to his godson 
Francis, son of the deceased William Taylor 
" heretofore my Fellow Clerk in the Home 
ircuit." What was the parentage and,' 
ancestry of Richard and Charity Hutton ?J 


12 S. VI. JAN., 1920.] 



PIRIE. Alexander Pirie, tenant of Meikle 
Tipperty, parish of Foveran, Aberdeenshire, 
and afterwards of Auchnacant in that Parish, 
was Clerk and Collector of Poll Tax for the 
neighbouring parish of Logie-Buchan, 1695-6. 
He m. Agnes [b. 1668, d. 14 Feb., 1696, bur. 
Foveran], daughter of Andrew Moir in Old 
Mill, b. 1621, Burgess of Aberdeen, 11 Sept., 
1688, and had issue. Who were the parents 
of Alexander Pirie ? 

Who were the parents of Sir John Pirie, 
Lord Mayor of London, 1842 ? 

20 Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.14. 

any reader give me the maiden name of 
General Stonewall Jackson's mother, where 
she was born, married and died, and if there 
are any portraits known of her ? I have a 
painting said to be of her. On the back of 
the canvas is the following inscription: 

"Mrs. Jackson | painted by | Waldo and Jewett | 
New York | America 1816." (Or it may be 1818J 

It was sold at Christie's some few years ago. 
Samuel Waldo and William Jewett worked 
in collaboration for many years in U.S. 
Stonewall Jackson was, of course, very popu- 
lar in England, but it seems difficult to 
account for the portrait of his mother being 
in this country. JOHN LANE. 

I have a charming picture ' Sea View, 
Taken near Fecamps,' by Louis Bentabole, 
which was exhibited at the third annual 
exhibition of the French School of Fine 
Arts in London, 1856. I shall be obliged if 
any reader can refer me to any particulars, 
such as the catalogues, &c., of these exhibi- 
tions, where held and when they terminated. 
These exhibitions must have been the first 
on record of French Art in England. 


The BodleyHead, Vigo Street, W.I. 

WANTED. William Phillips, town clerk at 
Brecon, antiquary, d. 1685. In the sale of 
the Towneley MSS. on 28 June, 1883, lot 149, 
was a volume in MS. of Welsh Pedigree, 
apparently collected by W. Phillips, with 
his autograph on the last page ; green 
morocco. It was bought by the late Mr. 
Bernard Quaritch for 15Z. 15s., who sold it 
about four years later. I should be most 
obliged to any reader who could give me 
any information about this book. 


49 Emerald Street, Roath, Cardiff, South Wales. 

SIGN. Could any of your readers give me 
the meaning of the sign of the Elephant 
and Castle ? 

1 always understood it meant an elephant 
with a fighting howdah, but, according to 
the enclosed newspaper cutting (evidently 
written by a very modest old maid) I am 
more in the dark than ever : 


How many people know the origin of the 
Curious sign, the Elephant and Castle ? 

Canon Westlake, the custodian of Westminster 
Abbey, showed the London Rambling Society, 
in the ancient library of the Abbey, an illuminated 
vestiary, dates probably about 1240, which gives 
a strange story of its original significance. 

As a matter of fact, the sign was known cen- 
turies before Eleanor was born, and this priceless 
old vestiary shows that in mediaeval symbolism 
the Elephant and Castle represented Adam and 
Eve in the Garden of Eden ! 

The old story, which can hardly be told in its 
crude original form, had to do with the lady 
elephant and the precautions she took to prevent 
her young being seized by the dragon. 

Perhaps, if the tale is too ' shocking ' to 
publish, it might still be enough hinted at 
to make the idea intelligible. 


Carlton Hotel, Pall Mall, S.W.I. 

Could anyone kindly supply any information 
about : 

John Brown, of Wrestlingworth, Beds, in 
1382, mentioned in Victoria County History. 
Arms, pedigree and descendants ? Also of 
John Broun, Braunsden, Little Grandsden, 
Cambs, mentioned in Patent Rolls, same 
date. He went with the Duke of Clarence 
to Ireland. 

James Brown, Potton, Beds ; marriage 
with Elizabeth , whose tombstone 
states she was buried there 9 Nov., 1724, 
aged 47. Ancestors and Arms of husband. 

Origin of John de Bellingues, who went 
to first Crusade ; also pedigree of Billings, 
Beds (same Arms). 

Hopcroft, or Hopcraft, Bucks, before 1800. 
Also Hoppesort, Hoppeschort, or Hopesorth. 

What is the meaning of Brownteslond 
(near Wrestlingworth) and Braunsden, Little 
Grandsden, Cambs ? F. BROWN. 

2 Capel Road, East Barnet, Herts. 

" EPATER LE BOURGEOIS." The Times, in 
a leading article on Dec. 10, 1919, quoted 
this well-known phrase as having been made 
familiar by Flaubert and his circle. Can 
anyone give the exact ' reference ?. And - 
where did Flaubert first mention Vhomme 
sensuel moyen ? DE V. PA YEN-PAYNE. 

NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. JAN., 1920. 

423. Rodolfo Lanciani in his book, ' Pagan 
and Christian Rome,' speaking of the 
Rotunda of St. Petronilla, called the chapel 
of the Kings of France, now covered by a 
part of the Basilica of St. Peter, mentions 
the discovery in 1544 of 'the tomb of Maria, 
daughter of Stilicho^and wife of Honorius ; 
and adds : 

" A greater treasure of gems, gold, and precious 
objects has never been found in a single tomb." 
and later on he says : 

" We know from Paul Diaconus that Honorius 
was laid to rest by the side of his empress ; his 
coffin, however, has never been found. It must 
still be concealed under the pavement at the 
southern end of transept, near the altar of the 
Crucifixion of St. Peter." 

Why, then, are we told by some, that one 
of the beautiful sarcophagi in the mauso- 
leum of his half-sister, Galla Placidia, at 
Ravenna, contains the ashes of Honorius ? 
And why should a ChristianfEmperor have 
been cremated ? A. R. BAYLEY. 

Can any of your readers tell me the exact 
date when George Gissing's ' On Battersea 
Bridge ' appeared in the Pall Mall Gazette ? 
The year commonly given is 1882, but I have 
failed to find it in that year's files. 


The Nest, Croydon Road, Caterham, Surrey. 

" BEAUTY is BUT SKIN DEEP." Who first 
used this expression ? Was it Sir Thomas 
Overbury, in his poem, ' A Wife ' ? 

J. R. H. 

URCHFONT. There is a village in Wilt- 
shire called Urchfont. Could any reader tell 
me the origin of the name ? J. R. H. 

NEW ENGLAND. There is a hamlet of this 
name south of Bagshot, Surrey ; also a 
district at Peterborough ; and many villages 
or hamlets throughout England. Can any- 
one suggest the origin of this name ? 


PAGINATION. (See 10 S. viii. 386). At this 
reference I directed attention to what I 
termed " the vagaries of printers and pub- 
lishers in this matter," giving two modern 
instances thereof, viz. : inserting the numbers 
at the bottom of the page, and introducing 
them into the context. I have since learned 
that these vagaries are not entirely modern, 
for in my edition (1630) of the ' Adagia ' 
of Erasmus the leaves are only paged 
alternately, i.e., the first bears the first 
numeral, the second none, and the third 

has the second numeral. What was the 
object in this deformity, and was it very 
general in the seventeenth century ? It is 
more annoying to the reader than pagination 
in calce. Can further examples of such 
idiosyncracies be adduced ? 

J. B. McGovERN. 
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester. 

We have lately had presented to the Pump 
Room by a visitor to Bath, a chair which he 
believes dates from abotit 1786, and marks 
a transition period between the sedan chair 
and the present Bath chair. 

The body is wood, shaped much like a 
sedan chair, but with a small door at each 
side like a miniature brougham. There are 
small windows of the carriage type, with a 
deep rail underneath. I believe the whole 
carriage is known as the ' Barker ' type. 

The vehicle has four wheels, two small 
wheels in front on a swivel carriage, to 
which is attached a handle for the man, 
while the rear wheels are much larger. 

I forward a photograph, and should be 
glad if any reader could give me any infor- 
mation about this type of chair. 


Hot Mineral Springs, 

Grand Pump Room, Bath. 

[We shall be glad to forward the photograph to 
any reader with special knowledge on this subject.] 

" CATHOLIC." Tertullian used this in one 
of his writings, but at what date was it 
adopted by the Christian Church ? 


DEAL AS A PLACE OF CALL. In the latter 
portion of ' Bleak House ' Dickens describes 
a homeward-bound East Indiaman at anchor 
in the .Downs, and the landing of some of the 
passengers in small boats at Deal. There was 
apparently a fog in the Channel when the 
vessel cast anchor, but it had cleared before 
the voyagers left the ship. Was this a usual 
practice at the period, or did the author 
draw on his fancy to provide a fresh oppor- 
tunity for Allan Woodcourt to meet Esther 
Summerson ? E. BASIL LUPTON. 

10 Humboldt Street, Cambridge, Mass. 

SHERIFFS IN SCOTLAND. Did sheriffs in 
Scotland, in the time of Sir Walter Scott, 
wear gold chains as a badge of office ? The 
appointment was permanent, not annual, 
like English sheriffs. I believe the duties 
were principally judicial. Mr. F. G. Kitto 
wrote several articles on the portraits of Sir 
Walter for The Magazine of Art in 1896. He 
described the third portrait by Raeburn as 

12 S. VI. JAX., 1920.] 



differing little from the first one by him, 
except that the coat was thrown open, 
showing a heavy gold watch-chain. I have 
a large coloured photograph of this very 
pleasing portrait, showing a heavy gold 
double chain round the neck and going down 
towards the waist, and thought it was 
purposely displayed by the artist, because 
Sir Walter was Sheriff of Selkirkshire. 


year of his birth definitely known ? B. 
Wright (Memoir, p. 5 and App. pp. 393-6) 
gives it as 1689 (June 1st). Others say 1696 
2. Was he named ' James,' or ' James 
Edward ' ? 3. Is there a portrait of him 
anywhere ? H. F. B. COMPSTON. 

Bredwardine Vicarage, Hereford. 

JOHN THORNTON. In 1405 John Thornton 
of Coventry contracted to fill the great east 
window of York Minster with coloured glass, 
the work to be completed within hree years ; 
whilst in 1410 one John Thornton, presum- 
ably the same man, was admitted a freeman 
of the City of York. 

Is anything known of Thornton's career 
either previous or subsequent to these years, 
that could identify him as the John of 
Coventry who, in 1353, was one of those 
engaged about the glazing of the king's new 
chapel at Windsor ? 



MONKSHOOD. Can any reader tell me 
why the common monkshood is called 
Aconitum napellus ? If napellus is an 
adjective why does it not agree with the 
neuter noun ? In any case what does the 
name mean ? The botanical books I have 
been able to consult throw no light on the 
subject. J. ANDERSON SMITH, M.D. 

CAPT. I. W. CARLETON. Can any of your 
readers "refer me to a life of Capt. I. W. 
Carleton, who wrote the ' Young Sportsman's 
Manual ' published about fifty years ago by 
Messrs. Bell & . Daldy ? The ' D.N.B.' 
contains no notice of him. He wrote under 
the name of Craven. S. P. KENNY. 

Primrose Club, St. James's, W. 

Is anything known of Henry Jenkins, who 
according to an old MS., was killed in a 
duel by a Mr. Glover, brother to Bichard 
Glover, the author of ' Leonidas ' ? Was he 
a soldier, and who were his parents ? He 
married Hannah Taylor, born 1726. 

H. C. B. 

JOHN WITTY. At 6 S. ii. 148 appears the 
following query ! ' John Witty, author of 
works on Mosaic history, against Deism, 
1705-34. Who was he ? W. C. B.' He 
was the B.ev. John Witty, son of Bichard 
Witty, of Lund, Co. York. Baptised there 
1679. Entered St. John's College, Cambridge, 
1696. M.A., 1711. 

Can any reader help me as to what livings 
he held or where he died ? In 1709 two 
letters were addressed to him, " att M r John 
Wyatt's house at the sign of the Cross in 
St. Paul's Church-yard" (Ad. MSS. 4276). 
After this I can find no trace of him. 

The date 1734 given by the previous 
querist above is hard to understand, as his 
last work in the B.M. Catalogue is dated 
1707. L - s - 

CAPT. J. C. GRANT DUFF. I am at present 
engaged in the preparation of a new edition 
of Capt. J. C. Grant Duff's ' History of the 
Mahrattas,' and am anxious to obtain for 
the introduction some details of his career 
as well as a copy of a portrait which might 
be used as a frontispiece. I shall be glad 
to be placed in communication with the 
present representatives of the family. 

S. M. EDWARDES, C.S.I., C.V.O., 
Indian Civil Service (retired). 

LAMBETH. In 1838 a Miss Gordon, who 
was evidently a school teacher at South 
Lambeth, issued 'A Guide to the Genea- 
logical Chart of English and Scottish His- 
tory.' What was her full name and what 
is known of her ? J. M. BULLOCH. 

37 Bedford Square, W.C.I. 

During my stay in Europe several times I 
met churches renowned to have used in seed 
time of scarcity to lend their grains for 
sowing, which the borrowers could return 
without any interest after harvests. But 
now my memory fails to name them exactly. 
Will a kind reader help me by giving some 

Tanabe, Kii, Japan. 

somewhere read that upon issue of the above 
collection, edited by William Sharp, and 
published by Walter Scott in 1886, diffi- 
culty arose in connection with copyright 
claimed for one or more authors who were 
included. Can it be stated to which of the 
contents such claims applied, and if the 
latter assumed any tangible form ? 

W. B. H. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. VL- JAN., 1920. 

It is stated by some authorities that the 

,term Leper's Window is a misnomer, as it 
is asserted that no leper would have been 
allowed to come near enough to a church 

.either to look through or communicate with a 
priest within the building by means of the 
windows described above. These openings 
are also named, I believe, Low Side Win- 
dows. There is said to be a Leper's Window 
in Elsdon Church, Northumberland. 

I shall be glad of information on the 
matter. F. W. 

' IN ALBIS.' What is the meaning of these 
words ? They occur in Bisset's MS. ' Rolment 
of Courtis,' where he writes : 

" And the said actis imprented be the said 
Lekprevik war coffc fra him in albis unbound be 
unaquhill maister James Makgill." 

Do they mean ' White Paper,' i.e., printed 
.on one side only ? 


any one give me any information as to the 
author and origin of the book called ' Philo- 
christus : Memoirs of a Disciple of the Lord,' 
and of the author of ' Ecce Homo,' to whom 
it is dedicated ? J. S. 

entered Winchester College, aged 11, from 
London, in 1538, whence he proceeded to 
New College, Oxford, where he was Fellow 
from 1547 to 1553. He received the first 
tonsure in London in December, 1553, in 
which year he also took the degree of B.C.L. 
and became vicar of Laughton, Sussex. He 
obtained the rectory of Ripe, Sussex, in 
1555/6, and the prebend of Bargham in the 
Cathedral of Chichester in 1558, becoming 
about the same time rural dean of South 
Mailing, Pagham, and Terring. He was 
deprived of all his preferments in 1560. 

Any further particulars about him would 
be welcome. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT. 

JOHN ELMS, D.D. Could any reader 
satisfy my curiosity as to who was the Rev. 
John Ellis, D.D., at one time vicar of 
St. Catherine, Dublin, author of a book 
called 'The Knowledge of Divine Things 
from Revelation not from* Reason or 
Nature,' third edition, 1811, when the 
author is referred to as " the late John 
Ellis, D.D." The above-named book is 
probably the ablest " brief " ever published 
in behalf of the hopeless philosophical 
position known as Hutchinsonianism, which 
darkened the counsel of so many good men 

in the Church of England at the end of the 
eighteenth and beginning of the nineteenth 
centuries. " Have you Ellis's great work, 
' On Knowledge of Divine Things ' ? " asks 
Van Mildert (afterwards Bishop) in 1806 
(see ' Memoir of Joshua Watson,' vol. i. 69), 
showing that he was basing|his Hutchin- 
sonianism in his Boyle lectures on Ellis's 

TED. I have come across in an old 
book a sheet of MS., in a hand of the latter 
half of the sixteenth century, containing 
a kind of summary of the contents of some 
theological work of at least about 400 pp. 
It runs thus : 

" God's providence and predestination ex- 
plained." Pp. 20, 21,22. 

" Why some were ordayned to salvation and some 
to damr,a iou." P. 96. 

" That the elect cannot finally perish." P. 373. 

" Why some believe and are obedient, and other 
some remain' unfaithfurand disobedient." Pp. 82 
and 107. 

"God worketh both in His elect and in the 
reprobate, but in divers manners." P. 118. 

''Acceptance of persons defyned, that God re- 
specteth not persons." P. 83. 

" The grace of God onely made the difference 
betwene Jacob and Esau." P. 136. 

'' God doth not plague His people, only by suffer- 
ing them to be plagued by the wicked." P. 314. 

" Who obey God and who not." P. 319. 

" God will not the death of a sinner explained." 
P. 394. 

I should be grateful if some reader of 
' N. & Q.' can identify the theological work 
thus summarised. PENARTH. 

TUNSTALL. I should be glad to obtain 
information showing the connection between 
the families of Tunstall of Thurland Castle 
(Lancashire) and Parks. Mary Tunstall 
married Robert Parks of Liverpool towards 
the end of the eighteenth century. Is there 
any Tunstall pedigree extant which shows 
this marriage ? H. WILBERFORCE-BELL. 

21 Park Crescent, Oxford. 

WALVEIN FAMILY. Can any one furnish 
any information re this family, which I 
believe to be of Irish origin ? A Walvein 
was thrown by a mob from a window of the 
Hotel de Ville at Ypres about 1297 and 
killed. Circa 1329 John Walvein was chief 
magistrate of Bruges. At the latter end of 
the eighteenth century a Walvein was 
military Governor of Bruges and a favourite 
counsellor of Joseph II., brother of Marie 
Antoinette, but owing to revolts in Flanders 
caused by persecution of Catholics he was 
forced to take^refuge at Marseilles, where he 

12 S. VI. JAN., 1920. ] 



was appointed Commander-in-Chief of the 
National Guard. He had a son, Charles 
Walvein, massacred at 1'Abbaye, and a 
daughter. It is said that there was a 
botanical garden at Bruges named after him. 

In 1858 some members of this family are 
reputed to have been living at Longworth 
Castle, Herefordshire. 


Beulah Cottage, Tatsfield, nr. Weaterham, Kent. 

" BOCASE " TREE. In the 'History of 
Northamptonshire ' the following passage 
appears : 

" Half a mile West of Brigstock on the boundary 
of the parish is a stone with the inscription : ' Here 
in this place stood ' Bocase ' Tree. The word 
''Eocase' has not been explained." 

Can any of your correspondents throw light 
on this matter ? 

Arts Club, 40 Dover Street, W.I. 

I^E. OWEN OF SWANSEA. Can. any keen 
Swanseian annalist furnish any knowledge 
of Mr. E. Owen, who kept a circulating 
library in the town, flourishing in the 
1790 period ? ANEURIN WILLIAMS. 

, Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon. 

CAPT. HENRY BELL. Some time ago in 
India I came across a small book by 
Henry Bell entitled : "A true relation of 
the abominable injustice, oppression, and 
tyranny which Captain Henry Bell suffered 
nine years together at the Councill Board 
before this Parliament began, 1646." Other 
works by him are in the British Museum, and 
Captain Bell was apparently a friend of 
Martin Luther. He is not noticed in 
'D.N.B.' Is anything known about him, 
and as to his parentage ? His first work, 
'Lutheri Posthuma,' is dated 1650, not 
including that mentioned above. 

H. W. B. 

born Oct. 29, 1818, and was admitted to 
Westminster School Jan. 31, 1833. I should 
be glad of any information about him. 

G. F. R. B. 

FICES, 1292-3. At the dispersal of the 
Savile MSS. (query, when ?) a Taxation Roll 
of the Benefices in England taken in 1292-3 
was sold, and appears to have passed into 
private hands. I have not been able to 
trace it, but it was stated at the time of the 
sale that the value of the benefices was about 
one-third more than that given in Pope 
Nicholas' s Val or of 1 2 9 1 . Can any reader give 
-more particulars of this Valor ? J. C. C. 

FRIDAY. An American sea story of Califor- 
nian ports eighty years ago, describes the 
vessels there having their yards a' -cock bill 
on Good Friday. What exactly does the 
expression mean, when did the custom 
originate, and is it still carried out ? 


Gleiidora, Hindhead, Surrey. 

When wild in woods the naked savage ran. 
If the version is correct did any one ever substitute 
" noble " for " naked " and use the line in con- 
nexion with Rousseau's theory of the semi- 
perfection of early man ? 




(12 S. v. 284.) 

THE statement in the ' D.N.B.,' xxxviii. 336, 
that Dr. Robert Moore was born at " Hoi- 
yard, Hants," would seem to have been 
taken from Wood's ' Athense Oxonienses ' 
(Bliss), ii. 654, and Wood may have taken it 
from the records of New College, Oxford. 
In our copies at Winchester of the ' Liber 
Successionis et Dignitatis,' which is an old 
manuscript book of the Fellows of New 
College, compiled from records of that 
College, I find : " Rob. More, de par. 
Holyard, comit. South.," under Aug. 19, 
1589, the date when he was admitted full 
Fellow after two years' probation. 

" Holyard " might, I suppose, mean 
Holybourne (near Alton), with its church of 
the Holyrood. But there can be little 
doubt that it really means the parish of 
Holyrood at Southampton. Holyrood is 
and was " the town church " of Southamp- 
ton, and accordingly it was there that 
Philip of Spain heard mass (July 20, 1554), 
on the day of his arrival at the port ( ' Victoria 
Hist, of Hants,' v. 527). MR. TURNER having 
established the fact that Moore was born 
abroad at Antwerp, it may be conjectured 
hat his parents, when they brought him as 
a child to England, landed at Southampton, 
and that consequently Holyrood came to be 
egarded as his native parish, in much the 
same fashion as Stepney has been reckoned 
Dopularly, though not legally, as the .birth- 
jlace of children born at sea and brought by 
ship to the port of London (see 3 S. x. 291, 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [128. vi. JAN., 1920. 

345, 379 ; 4 S. vi. 547 ; 8 S. xi. 328, 433 ; 
10 S. ii. 448, 512; 12 S. v. 261). At any 
rate Robert Moore, upon becoming a Win- 
chester Scholar, was set down in our 
Register as of Southampton : 

" Robertus Moore, de Southampton., 10 annorum 
Micha. preterit., admissus 14 Februarii [1579/80]. 
fDiocesis] Winton. [Marginal note : ] recessit 

It was in his boyhood at Winchester that 
his acquaintance, which MB. TURNER men- 
tions, with Bilson, the future Bishop, began ; 
for Bilson was Headmaster of the College 
(1571-79), and afterwards Warden (1580-96). 
The "Dr. John Harris," who preached the 
sermon at Moore's funeral at West Meon in 
February, 1640/1, was not only Rector of 
the neighbouring parish of Meonstoke : he 
was Warden of the College (1630-58). MR. 
TURNER'S statements concerning Moore's 
Church preferments need a slight revision : 
for in 1603 Moore, who was then rector both 
at West Meon and at Chilcomb, parted with 
Chilcomb and took the vicarage of Hamble- 
don (Hants), under an exchange with Arthur 
Lake, afterwards Bishop of Bath and Wells. 
In 1612 he gave up Hambledon, in order to 
hold, in conjunction with West-Meon, the 
vicarage of East-Meon. (See the Com- 
position Books at the Public Record Office.) 
At Winchester he was installed prebendary 
(4th stall) on June 4, 1613, but resigned 
before Jan. 9, 1631, the date when Dr. 
Edward Meetkirke, his son-in-law, succeeded 
him ('Hardy's Le Neve'). He was also 
prebendary of Exceit, one of the Wyke- 
hamical prebends in Chichester Cathedral 
being installed there on Feb. 11, 1611/12, 
but vacated in or before 1625, the year in 
which Dr. Edward Stanley (Headmaster at 
Winchester, 1627-42) obtained Exceit (' Hen- 
nessey '). 

Moore apparently bequeathed his library 
or a part of it to Winchester College, for 
our Accounts of 1640-1 contain these 
entries : 

"Sol. in regardiis in Domo Domini More per 
socium evolventem Libroa Doctoris More nuper 
defuncti, - 2 - 0." ('Custus Necessariorum cum 
Donis,' 2nd quarter). 

"Sol. pro carriagio Librorum Doctoria Moore ad 
Collegium, - 14 - " (' Custus Capellse et Librariffi,' 
3rd quarter). 

The legacy is not recorded in our parch- 
ment book of ' Donations to the Library,' 
which, though it records several gifts of an 
earlier date (one of them, William Moryn's, 
being as early as 1543), was not actually 
started until 1651-2 (as appears from the 
Accounts of that year under ' Custus 
Capellae et Librariae ' ). It mentions, however, 

Moore's gift in 1602 of ' Theodori Bezae> 
Vezelii volumen Tractationum Theo- 
logicarum ' (Anchora Eustathii Vignon, 
MDLXXVI.), a book which remains in the 
Library, and which has, pasted on to the 
title page, an old note of its being Moore's 
gift. The beauty of the book was not im- 
proved when it was re-bound (long ago) and. 
the margins were cut down. 

According to Foster's ' Alumni Oxon.,' 
Dr. Moore's son Robert matriculated at 
Oxford, as of Exeter College, on Nov. 21,, 
1634, aged 16, but I cannot trace him in 
Boase's ' Registrum Collegii Exoniensis ' 
(Oxford Hist. Soc., 1894), and he does not 
seem to have graduated. Curiously enough, 
Foster omits to mention Robert Moore, the 
Wykehamist, who migrated from Winchester 
to New College in 1635 and is described in 
our Register as : 

" Robertus Moore, consanguineus Domini Fun- parochia Stoke-Rivers in comit. Devon., 
12 annornm Fest. Michael, preterit., et admissus 
Julii 28, 1629. [Dice.] Exon." 

This Robert Moore appears in the 'Liber 
Successionis ' under date Oct. 15, 1635, next 
after William Twisse (Dr. Robert Moore's 
grandson), but the book ascribes to him a 
birth-place quite different from that just 
stated : 

" Rob. More, de par. Wichingham Parvse. com. 
Norfolk, dioe. Norwich : [receasit] 1637 : Consan- 
guineus fundatoris : Non Graduatus. CSvilist. 

The foregoing entries do not relate to- 
Dr. Moore's son Robert, but to a contem- 
porary of the same names. This contem- 
porary seems to have been son of William 
Moore of Stoke-Rivers, Devon (Winchester 
Scholar, 1601), who resigned his Fellowship 
at New College in 1613, upon accepting the 
college living of Witchingham, Norfolk. 
William Moore held Witchingham for two 
years only: "postea" (runs our note) 
" Rector de Stoke, com. Devon., et Bishops 
Lydiard, com. Somerset." He had certainly 
been rector of Bishop's Lydiard for fifty 
years when he died in 1665 (see Collinson's 
'Somerset,' ii. 496). I should be glad to 
learn whom he married and how his son 
Robert came to be Founder's kin. This 
family of Moore does not occur in our 
College book of C.F. pedigrees. 

MR. TURNER states that the Moores of 
Milton Place, Egham, were armigerous. If 
he would kindly tell us what their arms were, 
that might possibly help to throw light upon 
Dr. Moore's ancestry. The epitaph at West- 
Meon described him as " Ortus stirpe bona " 
(see Wood, loc. cit.). H. C. 

Winchester College. 

12 S. VI. JAN., 1920.J 





4255 aaaa 41. 

(12 S. ii. 147, 197, 215, 275, 338, 471; 
iii. 78, 136; v. 247.) 

THE list of the works of Mrs. Dutton given 
in 12 S. ii. 471 include : 

(a) ' A Discourse on Justification,' Octo- 
,ber, 1740. 

(6) ' A Discourse concerning the New 
Birth,' to which are added two poems, 1740. 

A note upon the last work indicates that 
examination should show that the two 
poems were, in reality, three. 

Both the above-named discourses were 
republished in the eighteenth and early 
nineteenth centuries, under the name of 
Thomas Dutton. The former is 4255 aaaa 41, 
B.M. Catalogue. It was printed at Glasgow, 
by Wm. Smith, in 1778, pp. x, 185, and 
contains a ten-column list of subscribers' 

The title-page describes : " A Treatise 
on Justification. .. .by the Reverend Mr. 
Thomas Dutton, late Minister in London, 
and Author of the Discourse on the New 
Birth and Religious Letters. The Third 
Edition." The end pages conclude with 
an announcement of proposals for printing, 
by subscription, " A Treatise concerning 
the New Birth, to which will be subjoined 
36 Letters on Spiritual Subjects, by the 
Rev. Thomas Dutton. .. .With a Recom- 
mendatory Preface by the Rev. Jacob 
Rogers, B.A." 

The preface of 4255 aaaa 41 refers to the 
Rev. Mr. Dutton, and states : " We have 
seen his discourse concerning the New 
Birth and his letters on Spiritual Subjects." 
The advertisement adds that the worthy 
author of the book was well known, but 
that copies were scarce and dear. 

The projected treatise concerning the 
' New Birth ' was printed at Dairy in 
1803, and contains, as was anticipated in 
12 S. ii. 471, three, and not two, hymns. 
Of it I know no copy save my own. Both 
books are productions that, many years 
previously, had been claimed by and 
ascribed to Mrs. Anne Dutton. 

There certainly had been a Mr. Thomas 
Dutton, a minister, of London sometime, 
though not, I hope, a minister within it. 
He had held a mission in Edinburgh, of 
which the results were published under the 
title of : " The Warnings of the Eternal 
Spirit to Edinburgh, 1710." The pro- 
phecies therein contained were addressed 

by Dutton, the principal of three impostors 
to hysterical audiences. He was abetted 
by Guy Nutt and a man named Glover ; 
the two acting as corner-men at his abomin- 
able private seances, and breaking into song 
when he reached the rare difficulty of con- 
tinuing perfectly obscure. He produced 
the usual result of psychic aberration in a 

Lady A , and, apparently accompanied 

by her, left for London. The account given 
of Dutton's catalepsed posturings and 
agitated struttings, of his face very terrible 
to behold (framed in plaid and whiskers), 
but pleasing as a bridegroom's at other 
times, would be rather amusing if it were 
not still more disgusting. 

Whether this Thomas Dutton was a 
father-in-law of Mrs. Dutton I do not 
know. There is an occasional resemblance 
in their styles. But it is not credible that 
she was a literary impostor, indebted for 
the whole of her work to this Thomas 
Dutton. Much of her writing was in response 
to the requirements of her own time ; 
notably the best of her material, that 
produced against Sandeman. 

On the other hand, it is equally difficult 
to believe that pious and earnest men 
reprinted the treatises with false ascription 
purposelessly. The successor of Mrs. Dutton 
at Great Gransden was a man named 
Keymer, and he probably became possessed 
of some of her manuscripts. He was of 
character that, even if his own exculpation 
be accepted implicitly as true, was even 
more despicable than that of his wife ; but 
this could hardly have been known to 
Mrs. Dutton. He would have been quite 
capable of selling her manuscripts, with a 
fresh ascription that would have overcome 
the objection of Presbyterians to feminine 
divinity. J. C. WHITEBROOK. 

24 Old Square, Lincoln's Inn, W.C.2. 


(12 S. ii. 3, 43. 75, 84, 122, 129, 151, 163, 191, 
204, 229, 243, 272, 282, 311, 324, 353, 364, 
391, 402, 431, 443, 473, 482, 512, 524 ; 
iii. 11, 46, 71, 103, 132, 190, 217, 234, 267, 

3rd Foot Guards (12 S. ii. 165, 231 ; v. 270.) 
William Lister, captain-lieutenant May 4 , 
1740, till captain 'and lieutenant-colonel, 
January, 1741 (when The Gent. Mag. styles 
him Capt. Leicester) ; d. March, 1744. 

Hugh Frazer, captain and lieutenant- 
colonel (v. Mordaunt), April 25, 1741 ; 
wounded at Fontenoy. 


NOTES ANL> QUERIES. [12 B. vi. JA*., iaa* 

Samuel Lovell, captain-lieutenant, January, 
1741 ; of Kensington, only son of Samuel 
Lovell (erroneously styled " a Welsh Judge " 
in. Burke' s ' Landed Gentry,' but see ' The 
History of the Great Sessions in Wales, 1542 
to 1830,' privately printed 1899) ; b. about 
1693 ; "a Captain in the Guards " ; d. 
April 24, 1751, leaving an only daughter and 
heiress Mary, wife of her cousin Richard 
Lovell Badcock. 

William Kingsley, app. captain-lieutenant, 
Aug. 28, 1743 ; captain and lieutenant- 
colonel, January, 1744 ; second major (and 
brevet-colonel), April 1, 1750 ; first major, 
Jan. 29, 1751 ; lieutenant-colonel of the 
regiment Nov. 27, 1752, till colonel 20th 
Foot, May 22, 1756, till he d. 1769 ; Governor 
of Fort William (300Z.), March, 1759, till 
death. His only son Wm. Kingsley, lieutenant 
and captain in same regiment, Nov. 12, 
1757, d. January, 1764. 

John Lowrie, wounded at Fontenoy ; 
captain and lieutenant-colonel, May 27, 
1745 ; second major (and brevet-colonel), 
Dec. 23, 1752 ; first major, Dec. 21, 1755 ; 
lieutenant-colonel of the regiment, May 22, 
1756, till May 2, 1758 ; d. Aug. 7, 1762, as 

Charles Buchan, captain-lieutenant, Janu- 
ary 17, 1744 ; captain and lieutenant-colonel, 
July 18, 1744 ; left before 1748. 

Andrew Robinson, a deputy quarter- 
master - general ( and brevet - lieutenant - 
colonel), June 9, 1743 ; wounded at Fontenoy; 
captain and lieutenant-colonel 3rd Foot 
Guards, June 6, 1745 ; second major (and 
brevet-colonel), Dec. 21, 1755 ; gazetted first 
major, June 12, 1756 ; lieutenant-colonel of 
the regiment, May 2, 1758, till colonel 45th 
Foot, Sept. 24, 1761, and colonel of 38th 
Foot, Nov. 11, 1761 till he d. April 5, 
1762, aged 78 ; major- general, June 25, 
1759 ; a Gentleman Usher to the Princess of 
Wales, 1736, but quitted the post before 
1741 ; was a Gentleman Usher, Quarterly 
Waiter (10-">Z.), to Her Royal Hiehness in 
1745, till 1760 ; a Gentleman Usher to the 
Prince of Wales till November, 1750 ; and 
an Equerry (300Z.) to him, November, 1750, 
till the Prince's death, March, 1751 ; an 
Equerry to the Dowager Princess of Wales, 
April, 1751 ; and a Gentleman Usher of the 
Privy Chamber to the same, 1760, both till 
he d. 1762. 

Henry Powlett d. May 11, 1743. 

William Strode, captain and lieutenant- 
colonel, Sept. 20, 1745 ; gazetted second 
major, June 12, 1756 ; colonel (new) 62nd 
Foot, April 21. 1758 ; till January, 1776. 

Arthur Owen, third son of Sir Arthur Owen,. 
3rd Bart., M.P., and brother to John (12 S. 
ii. 123), matriculated Oriel College, Oxford,, 
July 4, 1718, aged 17 (as John had done r 
Nov. 10, 1715, aged 17) ; was made major oS 
Hanmer's (new) 8th Marines, Feb. 18, 1741 p 
lieutenant-colonel of the new 79th Foot, Oct. y 
1745, raised by Lord Edgcumbe, Dec. 3,. 
1745, during the Scotch Rebellion, and, 
after its suppression, reduced, June 28, 1746 : 
was the Col. Owen who m. May, 1757, Mrs. 
Small of Chelsea ; was Lieutenant-Governor 
and Captain of the Castle and Garrison of 
Pendennis, Cornwall (300Z.), Oct. 16, 1753,. 
till he d. at Chelsea, Oct. 17, 1774. 

Alexander Lesley, 4th Lord Lindores, of 
Scotland, captain-lieutenant and lieutenant- 
colonel, Sept. 20, 1745 ; captain and lieu- 
tenant-colonel, Feb. 9, 1746/7, till colonel of.' 
(new) 81st (Invalids), April 7, 1758 ; of 41st 
(Invalids), May 16, 1764, till he d. September,. 

Court Knyvet (or Knivet), wounded at 
Fontenoy ; captain-lieutenant and lieutenant- 
colonel, Feb. 9, 1747 ; captain and lieutenant- 
colonel, Feb. 13, 1748, till he d. May 8, 1756. 
Gabriel Lapiper, gazetted (as Gabriel le- 
Pipre) captain of the Independent Company 
of Invalids at Pendertnis, Oct. 16, 1753, tilt 
July 24, 1754. On June 3, 1758, Robert 
Vyner, M.P. for co. Lincoln, m. " Mrs. 
Lepipre of Upper Brook Street " (? the- 
captain's widow). 

Thomas Burgess, captain and lieutenant- 
colonel, April 28, 1749 ; second major, May 2,, 
1758 ; first major, Oct. 23, 1759, till he d. 
Aug. 18, 1760; brevet-colonel, Oct. 17, 1758. 
Cuthbert Sheldon, captain and lieutenant- 
colonel, Feb. 9, 1747; retired June 11, 1753 ; 
d. at Fletwick, May 29, 1765. 

Hon. Thomas Stanhope, second son of 
William, 1st Earl of Harrington, being twin, 
brother to William, the 2nd Earl, was b. 
Dec. 18, 1719, and d. unm. 1742. 

John Furbar, captain-lieutenant and 
lieutenant-colonel, Jan. 11, 1751 ; captain- 
and lieutenant-colonel, June 9, 1753 ; second 
major (and brevet-colonel), Sept. 1, 1760; 
first major, Sept. 25, 1761, till he d. July 6, 
1767 ; major-general, June 10, 1762. 

John Wells, lieutenant and captain,. 
January, 1741 ; captain-lieutenant and 
lieutenant-colonel, June 9, 1753 ; captain 
and lieutenant-colonel, Aug. 27, 1753 ; 
second major and brevet-colonel, Feb. 19, 
1 762 ; first major, July 23, 1767 ; till March 25y 
1768 ; d. November, 1779, aged 82. 


( To 'be continued 

12 S. VI. JAN., 1920.] 


This was John Blakiston (1603-49), once 
member of Parliament for Newcastle-on- 
Tyne (1641-49), and mayor of that city in 
1645. He was one of fifty-nine persons who 
signed the warrant for the execution of 
Charles I., and one of two connected with 
the Northern City, the other being George 
Lilburn, governor of the town in 1647. 
As your correspondent assumed, he was a 
member of the Durham family of that name, 
his father being Marmaduke Blakiston (son 
of John Blakiston of Blakiston in the 
County Palatine of Durham), who was 
archdeacon and prebend of York. John 
was the second of eleven children, three of 
his brothers were brought up in the Church, 
and one of his sisters married Dr. Cosin, 
Bishop of Durham. The Register of Sedge- 
field contains his baptismal record on 
Aug. 21, 1603, and as his father held the 
living of this parish it may be inferred that 
John was born and his boyhood spent there. 
He later went to Newcastle and married 
Susan Chambers, a widow, on Nov. 9, 1626, 
as the register of All Saints' reveals ; his 
wife is buried there, her monumental in- 
scription reading : " Susannah, late wife of 
John Blaxton, one of his late Majesties 
Judges " a careless way of signifying that 
Blaxton was one of those who sat in judg- 
ment upon his majesty. Blakiston became 
a Puritan, and was the candidate of the 
Puritan party for Parliament ; he had two 
opponents, and was defeated, but on petition, 
which was unheard owing to the death of 
one of the successful candidates, Blakiston 
was declared to be duly elected. 

Blakiston' s name occurs frequently in the 
Journals of the House, the Calendars of 
State Papers, &c., and a variant of his name 
is there as Blackston, which probably 
accounts for your correspondent not finding 
him in various books of reference. He was 
a member of the Committee for Compound- 
ing, enjoyed the confidence of both Houses 
of Parliament, and was honoured by his 
fellow burgesses. 

He was twelfth in the list of persons who 
signed the king's death warrant ; the 
signature is bold " John Blakiston," beside 
the arms of his family: " Arg.,two bars, and 
in chief three dunghill cocks gu." He did not 
live long to share the further triumphs of his 
party, as three months after the death of 
the king he was taken ill, and died a day or 
two after the making of his will, which is 
dated June 1, 1649. The actual date of 
death is not known, but a record from the 
Journals of the House of a payment to his 

widow and children of 3,OOOZ. is dated 
June 6 of the same year, the record stating : 
" John Blakiston, deceased." 

The issue of John and Susan Blakiston was 
seven children, of whom three only survived 
their father. 

The foregoing particuars are taken from 
various sources : the Surtees Society's 
publications, the State Calendars. 'The 
Monthly Chronicle of North Country Lore 
and Legend,' &c. A brief memoir will also 
be found under Blakiston in ' D.N.B.,' which 
gives further points not touched on here. 


""See his Life by Prof. C. H. Firth, in the - 
' D.N.B.' where the name is given as John 
Blakiston (1603-1649). He was M.P. for 
Newcastle, where he was a mercer. The date 
of his death shows that the question of his 
fate at the Restoration does not arise. That 
he left descendants is proved by the grant 
voted for his wife and children. Prof. Firth. , 
warns us that Noble's account in his ' Lives . 
of the Regicides ' is full of errors. 


Oudle Cottage, Much Hadham, Herts. 
[MB. A. R. BAYLEY also thanked for reply.] 

JOWETT MADE " (12 S. v. 288). In " Oxford : 
Garlands Epigrams, selected by R. M. 
Leonard," at p. 18 the editor ascribes the 
epigram tentatively to R. Person, and gives- 
it in this form : 

A. little garden little Jowett made, 
And fenced it with a little palisade ; 
A little taste hath little Dr. Jowett, 
This little garden doth a little show it. 
Because this garden made a little talk 
He changed it to a little gravel walk. 


HAVERING (12 S. v. 229). I am afraid 
Mc.'s statement that "Havering is plaiply 
derived from two Saxon words, and means 
' Goats' Pasture,' " would not pass in the 
North of England, where the place-name 
occurs for one or two fields. Haver is 
Danish for oats, " havermeal " is oatmeal^ 
" haverbread " is oaten -bread, and " haver- 
cake " is oatcake ; ing or inge is Anglo* 
Saxon, akin to the Danish ing, an enclosure^ 
a meadow, a pasture, literally a field, and the 
" havering," or the " haverings," up north- 
here were the oat-fields. I never knew that 
haver was Anglo-Saxon for " goat." Me. 
must have made some mistake here. The 
only Saxon word for " goat " that I know of. 
is goet. J. W. FAWCETT, 

Con sett, co. Durham. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. JAN., 1920. 

" XIT " : WHO WAS HE ? (12 S. v. 295). 
I take this to be Harrison Ainsworfch's name 
'for John Jarvis, who figures in Caulfield's 
' Remarkable Persons ' ; and of whom 
Granger in his ' Biographical History of 
England ' (vol. i., p. 342) says : 

" The resemblance of this diminutive person is 
preserved by his statue, most inimitably carved in 
oak, and coloured to resemble the life. All that is 
'known of his history is that he was in height but 
three feet eight inches, and was retained by Queen 
Mary as her page of honour. He died in the year 
1558, aged 57 years, as appears by the dates painted 
on the girdle at the nick of tho statue in the 
possession of Geo. Walker, Esq., Winchester Row, 
Lisson Green,, Paddington." 


Perhaps the statues represent Xit the 
dwarf, a prominent character in Harrison 
Ainsworth's historical romance ' The Tower 
of London.' W. H. PINCHBECK. 

[Si. SWITHIN also thanked for reply.] 

PETEKLOO (12 S. v. 291). This was in 
1819 (not 1816). An octavo publication, 
entitled ' Peter-Loo Massacre,' Manchester, 
has the date 1819 assigned to it in the 
-catalogue of the Liverpool Public Library, 
but seems not to be dated. R. S. B. 

Without going so far as to say that it was 
-the earliest use of the word in connection 
with the riotous assemblage in 1819 in St. 
iPeter's Fields, at Manchester, Carlyle wrote 
" Bridges of Lodi, Retreats of Moscow, 
Waterloos, Peterloos, ten pound franchises, 
tar barrels and guillotines." 


NUNCUPATIVE WILLS (12 S. v. 265). It 
was always essential to the validity of a 
; nuncupative will that it should be declared 
by the testator when in extremis. (See Sir 
William Blackstone's ' Commentaries,' Book 
.II., cap. xxxii., cf. title by Testament.) 

The Statute of Frauds, which was passed 
iin 1677, and therefore after Milton's death, 
^provided that no written will should be 
revoked or altered by a subsequent nun- 
cupative one, except the same be, in the 
lifetime of the testator reduced to writing 
--and read over to him and approved, and 
unless the same be proved to have been so 
done by the oaths of three witnesses at the 
least, that no nuncupative will should in 
anywise be good where the estate bequeathed 
exceeded thirty pounds, unless proved by 
three such witnesses present at the making 
thereof and unless they or some of them 
were specially required to bear witness 
thereto by the testator himself ; and unless 
it was made in his last sickness, in his own 

habitation or dwelling-house, or where he 
had been previously resident ten days at 
the least except he be surprised with sickness 
on a journey or from home and die without 
returning to his dwelling. No nuncupative 
will was to be proved till fourteen days after 
the death of the testator, nor till process 
had first issued to call in the widow or next 
of kin to contest it if they thought proper. 

Sir William Blackstone says, " the thing 
itself had fallen into disuse and is now (1765) 
hardly ever heard of." 

Nuncupative wills were finally abolished 
by the Wills Act, 1837, except in the case 
of soldiers and sailors in expeditione. 

G. P. 

BETH AT SANDGATE (12 S. v. 96, 273). A 
correspondent at the second reference says 
that the Saraband could hardly have been 
known in England at the date of Raleigh's 
meeting with the Queen. In the October 
number of " English," an article under the 
title of " Dance Names in Shakspere's 
England," after dealing at length with the 
origin of the Saraband, goes on : 

" The popularity of the dance in England is to 
be seen in the frequency of its name in Tudor and 
early Stuart literature. A couple of quotations 
will suffice to show the way in which it was used. 
Ben Jonson, in ' The Devil is an Ass ' (iv. 1), has : 
' Coach it to Pimlico, dance the saraband, Hear 
and talk bawdy, &c.' The same writer employs 
this word twice in ' The Staple of News ' (iv. 1) : 
' And then I have a saraband ' ; and later : 
' . . . . how they are tickled with a light air, the 
bawdy saraband ! ' The word is sometimes to be 
met with spelt ' sarabrand ' in Elizabethan 

J. R. H. 

CASE (12 S. v. 293). In 1275, and again 
in 1286, the Crown proceeded against Guy 
Visdeloo, Lord of the Manor of Shotley, in 
Suffolk, for certain claims he made in 
respect of that manor. The case was 
adjourned (Hundred Rolls). Six hundred 
years later, in 1887, the Crown proceeded 
against the Marquis of Bristol, the lineal 
decendant of Guy Visdeloo, for certain 
claims he made in respect of that same 
manor. As Mr. Charles Elton was one of the 
counsel for Lord Bristol, and as there is a 
Shotley in the North of England as well as 
in Suffolk, it looks as if in course of repetition 
of the story Durham had been substituted 
for Suffolk. Or, of course, the same sort of 
thing may have happened in both counties. 
Some account of the Suffolk case will be 
found in a recent history of Shotley. 

S. H. A. H. 

12 S. VI. JAN., 1920.] 



v. 238, 326)." Recreensis " is possibly 
identical with " Rechrannensis," which is 
mentioned in Martin's ' Record Interpreter ' 
(2nd ed., 1910, p. 428) as meaning " Rath- 
lin," i.e., the island of Rathlin, off the 
northern coast of Antrim. In the ' Index 
Locorum ' (vol. v., p. 399) to Cotton's 
' Fasti Ecclesise Hibernicao ' (Dublin, 1851- 
60) " Rechrann " occurs, printed in italic 
capitals as being " the name of an ancient 
diocese, not now recognised as such " (see 
p. 389) ; but the reference, " iii. 152," needs 
to be corrected to " iii. 251," where one finds 
" Rechrann (now Raghlin, or Rathlin, or 
Raghery) " among "Minor Sees" of the 
diocese of Connor, i.e., churches which 
occasionally gave titles to Bishops (see 
p. 245). Cotton mentions only one " Bishop 
of Rechrann," Flann M'Cellach M'Cronmael 
(who is said to have died in 734), and gives 
a quotation from ' Reeves,' to the effect that 
" Rechrann " may have been, not the island 
of Rathlin, but the island of Lambay, which 
lies off the coast of county Dublin. I infer 
that this quotation comes from Reeves's 
' Ecclesiastical Antiquities of Down, Connor 
and Dromore ' (Dublin, 1847). H. C. 

Winchester College. 

DAGGLE MOP (12 S. v. 293). For Mop, a 
statute fair for hiring farm servants, see 
the 'E.D.D.' and 1 S. iv. 190. The term 
" Mop " is current in all the Midland 
counties, and is said to be due to an old 
custom which required that maidservants 
who were seeking places were expected to 
bring with them their badge of office, many 
of them in consequence appearing at the 
fair with brooms and mops. 

The same authority confines the use of 
"daggle" or " diggle," to Wiltshire; its 
meaning is " thick," or " in clusters." 

N. W. HILL. 

277, 297). I would suggest that we first of 
all strip the verses of their " olde Englyshe 
fancie fayre " tinsel, which gives us : 

O ! for a book and a shady nook, either indoor or 

out ; 
With the green leaves whisp'ring overhead, or the 

street cries all about, 
Where I may read all at my ease, both of the new 

and old ; 
For a jolly good book/whereon to look, is better to 

me than gold. 

It is dangerous to dogmatise in these 
matters, but to my eye and ear they cer- 
tainly have not the " excellent mediaeval 
ring " attributed to them at 10 S. ix. 192, 

but rather of the latter half of the nineteenths 
century. Had I been asked to make three 
guesses I should have given: (1) Austin 
Dobson ; (2) Edmund Gosse ; (3) Andrew- 
Lang. To disprove Wilson's statement we 
want a book containing them, published 
before, say, 1850. 

It is quite clear that Mr. Ireland did not 
verify them, but accepted the contribution 
on CAPT. JAGGABD'S authority. Who sup- 
plied the terribly vague date 1592-1670,. 
which appears in the last reference in- 
' N. & Q.' ? 

I once met John Wilson, and my im- 
pression of him was such that I should have 
accepted without hesitation any statement 
he made of his own knowledge. 

Is it possible that MR. DOBSON is playing- 
Puck with us after all ? 


PERSISTENT ERROR (12 S. v. 315). " The- 
quails stunk " is the reading in the edition of 
' Holy Living,' published by A. Hall & Co., 
London (n.d., but " G.C.'s " preface dated' 
March, 1838). H. F. B. C. 

[DARSANANI also thanked for reply.] 

GREEN HOLLY (12 S. v. 319). As an 
emblem of mirth, the evidence in favour of 
holly is, I think, more or less obvious. For 
some four hundred years, and probably 
longer, it has been closely associated with) 
the Christmas festival a time of jollity. In 
the depth of our English winters it offers 
the brightest colouring from nature, available 
to rich and poor alike. It is essentially 
English in character, impervious to all 4 
vagaries of climate, standing like the oak,, 
four-square to all winds, and " with shining 
morning face," ever handing on its message - 
of " Cheerio " to all passers-by. A holly bush 
is likewise an inn sign, as noted by that 
apostle of mirth, Dickens, in his short' 
story, ' Boots at the Holly-tree Inn,' and an,* 
inn is a place for conviviality. 

In 1594 Hugh Plat (in his ' Jewell-ho ') 
quotes : " To take a tauerne and get a 
hollibush . . . . " (as a sign). In Yorkshire 
there was a dance known as the holly dance- 
at Christmas, with holly boughs as decora- 
tion. (See Harland, Glossary of Swaledale, 
1873, p. 96). Then there is a game known 
as the Holly-boy, played with an effigy of 
a boy, made of holly, together with a girl' 
made of ivy, which figured in village sports^ 
in East Kent on Shrove Tuesday. (See 
Gentleman's Magazine, 1779, vol. 49, p ; 137.) > 

Holly and Christmas are inseparable, and 
Philip Stubfces, who wrote the ' Anatomic ofc" 



Abuses ' (1583), says : " Is'it not Christmas ? 
Must we not be mery ? " We may be sure 
that the observant eye of Shakespeare was 
gladdened by the grace and colour of the 
holly, and that in gratitude he penned the 
-lines " Heigh-ho, the holly ! " 

W. JAGGARD, Capt. 
Repatriation Records Registry, Winchester. 

The holly was and is the emblem of mirth, 
because it was and is used to decorate the 
house for the Christmas festival. The custom 
is probably a survival of an ancient rite of 
nature worship, for which, see Sir James 
Frazer's ' The Golden Bough.' In the later 
middle-ages a favourite Christmas pastime 
was a contest between holly and ivy, the men 

of the party representing holly, the women 
ivy. Several Fifteenth Century carols com- 
posed for this sport, and some notes upon it, 
may be found in ' Ancient English Christmas 

' Carols,' edited by Edith Rickert (Chatto & 
Windus : 1910)." M. H. DODOS. 

Certainly songs of the holly were current 
long before Shakespeare's time. 

In the Harleian Collection of Manuscripts, 
5396, is the following carol, written during 
the reign of Henry VI., in praise of the holly 

and in connection with jollity : 

Nay, Ivy ! nay, it shall not be i-wys ; 
Let Holy hafe the maystery, as the maner ys. 
Holy stond in the Halle, fayre to behold ; 
Ivy stond without the dore ; she is full sore acold. 

Nay, Ivy ! nay, &c. 

Holy and hys mery men they dawnsyn and they 


1 Ivy and her maydenys they wepyn and they wryng. 

Nay, Ivy ! nay, &c. 

Ivy hath a lybe ; she laghtit with the cold, 
So mot they all hafe that with Ivy hold, 

Nay, Ivy ! nay, &c. 
Holy hath berys as red as any rose, 
The foster the hunters, kepe hem from the doo, 

Nay, Ivy ! nay, &c. 
VEvy hath berys as black as any slo ; 
Ther com the oule and ete hym as she goo. 

Nay, Ivy ! nay, &c. 
Holy hath byrds, a full fayre flok, 
The Nyghtyngale, the 'poppyngy, the gayntyl 
lavyrok. Nay, Ivy ! nay, &c. 

Good Ivy ; what byrdys ast thou? 

Non but the howlet that kreye " How ! how ! " 

Nay, Ivy ! nay, &c. 

Swallowfield Park, Reading. 

F May nob the as*>3ia<:ion of holly with 
tnirth be explained by the fact that it was 
used in the Saturnalia by the pagan Romans ? 
/j' Arboretum,' vol. ii. 511. London, 1838.) 


MASTER GUNNER (12 S. v. 153, 212, 277). 
In the list of ' Monumental Inscriptions in 
Hartpury Church, co. Gloucester,' which is 
given in Bigland's ' Historical, Monumental, 
and Genealogical Collections relative to the 
County of Gloucester,' vol. ii., 1792, appears 
the following (in capitals) : 

Here lyeth the body of 

Anthony Gelfe, Master 

Gunner of the King's Majestie. 

There is nothing to indicate the date, except 
the remark that the inscription was " round 
the verge," i.e., of the memorial to John 
Maddocke, Gent., of the parish, Alderman 
of the City of Gloucester, who died Dec. 19, 
1657. So it was later, but probably not by 
many years. Of course, inspection of the 
Registers would be likely to show date of 
death and burial. HERBERT SOUTHAM. 

The following is an extract from ' An 
Accidence for Young Seamen or Their 
Pathway to Experience,' by Capt. John 
Smith, published in 1626 : 

"The Master Gunner hath the charge of the 
Ordinances, Shot, Powder, Match, Ladles, Spuuges, 
Cartrages, Armes, and Fire-workes, and the rest, 
every one to receive his charge from him according 
to directions, and to give an account of his store." 
The term is similar to master mariner. 


Royal Societies Club. 

The following references to Master 
Gunners occur in the burial register of 
Holy Island, Northam Island : 

William Brown, sometime master gunner at 
Holy Island, April 8, 1688. 

William Hart, master gunner at Holy Island, 
Nov. 12, 1703. 

John Montgomery, master gunner at Holy 
Island, Feb. 11, 1782. 

Charles Nowlin, master gunner at Holy Island, 
Aug. 28, 1743. 

William Watts, gunner at Holy Island, Feb. 9, 

A work, called ' Edward Webbe, Chief 
Master Gunner, His Travailes,' was published 
in 1590, It was reprinted privately in Edin- 
burgh, in a thin 8vo., in 1885. 

Consett, co. Durham. 

(12 S. v. 290). This is not a regular suffix, 
except in a few instances, such as " Court- 
ney," which is believed to be the French 
nickname, court nez, short-nosed. In Romney, 
Watney, Whitney, the suffix is -ey, and 
means an isle or sandbank., the n representing 
part of a personal name, and frequently an 
A.S. genitive : Ruman, Watan, Hwitan. 
Stepney was originally Stebenhethe, or 

12 8. VI. JAN., 1920. .1 



Stevenhythe ; but it got corrupted into 
Stepney or Stephen's isle. Chesney is from 
Fr. chenaie, an oak grove, and Furney or 
Furness may be either from Fr. fournaise 
a furnace, or from A.S. feor, far, and naess, a 
ness or headland. Alderney, if not Celtic, 
may signify " the isle of alders." For the 
genesis of Macartney see the 'Patronymica 

I would strongly advise those desiring in- 
formation as to the composition of sur- 
names in the first instance to consult, at least, 
the intoductory chapters on prefixes and 
suffixes in Bardsley's 'Dictionary' and 
Johnston's 'English and Welsh Place-names,' 
as much unneccessary trouble may thereby 
be avoided. N. W. HILL. 

Your correspondent assumes a meaning 
for this syllable which is not borne out in 
one of the examples he gives, viz., Stepney, 
the old form of which name was Stebon- 
heath vide Statutes relating to this parish. 

W. S. B. H. 

The terminal ney in surnames . usually 
means " native of." Under " Macartney," 
Lower's 'Patronymica Britannica' says: 

" The ancestor was a younger son of the 
M'Garthy More, of County Cork, who went to 
Scotland to assist King Robert Bruce, and obtained 
Lands in co. Argyle, and afterwards at Macartney, 
in Scotland. Hence the Macartneys of Scotland, 
and of Ireland, whither a branch returned in 1630."' 


I should say that the suffix is ey, not ney, 
and that n belongs to the foregoing syllable. 
In English names ey and ay often mean 
island. In some, which come to us from 
France, ay stands for a Roman place-name 
ending originally in acum. 


291). The history of this anthem is involved 
in some obscurity. It may be found with 
some variations in Lydley's Prayers, 
reprinted by the Parker Society in Ball's 
' Christian Prayers and Meditations.' It is 
doubtful whether Farrant is its author. 
Perhaps it is by John Hilton. 


Hadleigh House, Windsor. 

In ' Groves' s Dictionary of Music,' vol. ii. 
p. 13, it is asserted : 

" The beautiful anthem ' Lord, for Thy Tender 
Mercies' Sake ' (the words from Lydley's Prayers), 
was long assigned to Farrant, although it is 
attributed by earlier writers to John Hilton." 


' TOM JONES ' (12 S. v. 268, 303, 327). In 
the ' Student's Manual of English Litera- 
ture,' edited by Sir Wm. Smith (published by 
John Murray), 22nd edit., 1897, p. 340, the 
following reference^ will be found : 

" Henry Fielding. He was descended from the 
illustrious house of Denbigh, itself an offshoot 
from the Counts of Hapsburg, and his father was 
General Fielding, a man of fashion, ruined by hi 

The transposition of ' e ' and ' i ' in the 
surname is certainly not accounted for ; but 
it is evident that it was not through lack of 
education that his family could not spell 
correctly. Is it not possible that Henry 
regarded the unusual ' ei ' as a form of 
illiteracy ? C. J. TOTTENHAM. 

Diocesan Church House, Liverpool. 

' ADESTE FIDELES' (12 S. v. 292, 329). In- 
The Evangelical Magazine for December, 
1802, is printed an English version of 
' Adeste Fideles,' which is not amongst the' 
twenty-seven translations noted by Julian. 
It is referred to as the favourite Portuguese- 
hymn ; this, together with Julian's reference 
to the hymn having been sung at the Portu- 
guese Embassy, in 1797, may perhaps- 
furnish a clue to its origin. 


RIME ON DR. FELL (12 S. v. 315). Tom 
Brown's well-known lines, which turn up in 
various forms, are a translation of Martial, 
Epigr., i. 32 (33) : 

Non amo te, Sabidi, nee possum dicere quare ; 
Hoc tantum possum dicere, non amo te. 

There is no poem or passage in Catullus 
beginning " Non amo te Volusi," but some- 
people have stipposed that Martial in writing 
the above epigram may have been indebted- 
to Catullus, Ixxxv. : 
Odi et amo, quare id faciam fortasse requiris. 

Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior. 

Dr. Fell is, of course, John Fell (1625-1686) [ 
who was Dean of Christ Church when Tom 
Brown was an undergraduate. The English 
lines are mentioned in the 'D.N.B..' in the 
lives of John Fell and Thomas Brown 
(1663-1704), and quoted from the latter's 
Works, 1760, vol. iv., p. 100, in W. F. H. 
King's ' Classical and Foreign Quotations,' 
as follows : 

I do not love you, Dr. Fell, ' 

But why I cannot tell, 

But this I know full well, 

I do not love you, Dr. Fell. 

Andrew Amos, ' Martial and the Moderns,' . 
p. 118, gives a French translation of the 
Latin, and also an extract from a speech of * 
Sheridan's, in which a version of the English . 

NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. JA*., 1920. 

Alines is quoted. Sheridan, as one would 
naturally expect, refers to " the well- 
known epigram of Martial." Indeed, Mar- 
tial's couplet is so well known that one 
would not be surprised to find an English 
translation or adaptation earlier than that 

, produced by CAPT. JAGGABD. 

[Several other correspondents also thanked for 

> replies.] 

ALLEYNE OB ALLEN (12 S. v. 291). 

'7. Reynold admitted 1715, aged 15. He was 

fifth son of Thomas Alleyne of the parish of 

*St. James in the Island of Barbados, came 

of age on Jan. 23, 1720, when he inherited 
the plantation of Mount Alleyne under his 
father's will : married a daughter and co-heir 
of Lawrence Price, and left two daughters 
and co-heirs. In the floor of Christ Church 
in the said island I have seen a blue armorial 
Blab, the inscription describing him as of 
Mount Alleyne, Esq., and recording his death 
on June 30, 1749, aged 49. 

4. John, admitted 1715, aged 13. Sixth 
son of the above Thomas, matriculated from 
Queen's College, Oxford, Oct. 10, 1718, aged 
16, came of age on Jan. 1, 1722, was of Rock 
Hill Plantation, and died in London in 
October, 1737. He married, firstly, a daughter 
and co-heir of General Henry Peers, and, 
secondly, Mary, daughter of Abel Alleyne. 

2. Abel, admitted 1730, aged 8. Probably 
second son of Abel Alleyne of Mount Stanfast 
Plantation, Barbados, and of Boston, Mass., 
by Mary Woodbridge. He died young. 

6. John, admitted 1749, aged 16. Pro- 
bably fifth son of above Abel Alleyne [Henry 
' Timothy, the sixth son, died 1808, aged 73]. 
He married Miss Elizabeth Ferguson, and 
left an only son, John, and four daughters. 

5. John, admitted 1736, aged 11. Sir 
John Gay Alleyne, born April 28, 1724, was 

created a Baronet in 1769. In 1798, when 
he made his will, he was residing in West- 

8. William may be of above family, but 
I lack dates for identification. 

3. Bernard does not occur in the pedigree. 


Abel and Reynold Alleyne (or Allen) were 
evidently members of the family of that 
name, first settled near Grantham, in 
Lincolnshire, some of whom in the mid- 
seventeenth century migrated to Barbados, 
where representatives of the family were 
living up to a short time ago. These names 
are of frequent recurrence in this family. An 
interesting article by MB. E. B. DE COLE- 
TEPEB , on a curious circumstance connected 

with this family is to be found in ' N. & Q.', 
12 S. i. 84, 125. Other records will be found 
in ' Caribbeana,' iv. 1 (Brit. Mus. Cat. 
Period. Pub.). B. 

[C. H. M. also thanked for reply.] 

PANNAG (12 S. v. 294). The word occurs 
only in Ezekiel xxvii, 17. The A.V. takes it 
as a place-name along with Minnith, men- 
tioned just before. The R.V.M. has "perhaps 
a kind of confection." The text of Ezekiel 
has suffered badly in transmission, and it is 
possible that some other word was meant. 
Donarj, " wax," has been proposed. Ancient 
Hebrew was, of course, written with no 
indication of short vowels, and the unpointed 
text has simply png. Assuming that these 
consonants and the Massoretic pronunciation 
pannag are correct, there seems much to be 
urged in favour of connecting the word with 
the Latin panicum, " panic grass " a word 
for " millet." The suggestion was, I believe, 
first made by the late Dr. Redpath in his 
Westminster Commentary on Ezekiel. The 
chapter in Ezekiel where png occurs is \ery 
interesting, as showing the prophet's know- 
ledge of geographical details. He is speaking 
of the commerce of Tyre. 

Bredwardine Vicarage, Hereford. 

The short article in Murray's Illustrated 
Bible Dictionary gives all that need be said 
about it. Its identification is purely conjec- 
tural, as the term occurs only in Ezekiel 
xxvii, 17. Comparison with Genesis Ixiii. 11, 
suggest some spice grown in Palestine and 
exported to Tyre, an opinion favoured by 
LXX. Kaa-ia. The Sanscrit pannaga denotes 
an aromatic plant. The Syriac version sug- 
gests millet, Latin panicum. R.V. has a 
marginal note, " perhaps a kind of confec- 
tion," arid the Targum and the book Zohar 
cited in Gesenius's Hebrew Lexicon suggests 
" a kind of sweet pastry." Gesenius says 
that " other opinions are given >in Celsius, 
Hierobot, ii. 73." Pannag may be a place- 
name used to denote wheat or some other 
product of the place, as we name port and 
sherry from Oporto and Xeres. But no such 
place appears to be known. J. T. F. 

Winterton, Doncaster. 

Dr. Robert Young, in his exhaustive 
Analytical Bible Concordance, gives " sweet " 
as English equivalent to the Hebrew. 

Canon Cheyne throws light on the import 
and misusage of the term in his summarisable 
observations thereon in Encyclopaedia Biblica 
vol. 3. He declared the A.V. had taken it 
as a place-name, and R.V. treated it as a 

12 S. VI. JAN., 1920.] 


common noun untranslated with marginal 
note, possibly " a kind of confection." While 
Cornill proposed to read "wax," Cheyne 
considers " vine " to be the right interpre- 
tation, and, moreover, alleges the Hebrew 
phrase is parallel to the Mishnic for date 

Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon. 

[Several other correspondents also thanked for 

TINKLE STREET (12 S. v. 69, 109, 279). 
There is a Finkle Street in St. Bees, Cumber- 
land. In a deed in my possession, dated 
Mar. 31, 1809, the words occur, " being part 
of a certain estate there" (i.e., at St. Bees) 
" called Fennel Street, otherwise Finklo 
Street." The estate, now dispersed, took 
its name from the street. 

In two earlier deeds relating to the same 

property, dated June 19, 1719 and Jan. 1, 

. 1739, occur the words " his estate lying in 

Fennell Street," and " William Nicholson of 

Fennel Street in the Township of St. Bees." 

I submit that this is conclusive that Finkle 
means fennel, as stated in ' N. & Q.' in 1850 
(1 S. i. 419). 

As to the suggested derivation from 
" vinkel " (angle), the St. Bees street is not 
straight (few village streets are) but its 
angles are very obtuse. It is worth noting 
that ^Professor Skeat protested (6 S. viii. 
522) "against the substitution of English / 
for Scandinavian v. 

The problem remains : why should a 
common weed have given its name to a 
number of streets ? P. H. Fox. 

Union Club, S.W. 

JOHN WM. FLETCHER (12 S. v. 293, 320). 
The Fletcher referred to by MR. WILLIAMS 
was himself the saintly vicar of Madeley 
1760-85, and was superintendent of Lady 
Huntingdon's College at Trevecca, 1768-71 ; 
but resigned on account of his Arminian 
views, which he defended in his ' Checks to 
Antinomianism,' published in 1771. See the 
* D.N.B.' for an account of his life. 


Aysgarth, Sevenoaks. 

In 1757 he was ordained deacon and priest 
on two successive Sundays from the hands 
of the Bishop of Bangor in the Chapel Royal 
at St. James's. 

After looking through Benson's life of 
Fletcher, the only reference I find in con- 
nection with Wales is as follows : 

About 1768 the Countess of Huntington 
erected a seminary at Trevecka in Wales for 
the education of pious young men. She 
offered the office of superintendent to 

Fletcher, which he accepted, and promised} 
to attend as regularly as possible. He says 
" that his duty to his own flock at Madeley 
would by no means admit accepting the 
position of Head Master." 

H. T. BEDDOWS, Librarian. 

GEORGE SHEPHERD (12 S. v. 295, 332). 
I have the pleasure of being well acquainted i 
with a great grandson of George Shepherd, 
and if I may assume this is the artist to whom 
your correspondent refers, I may say that* 
I have a number of his drawings, and have 
seen a great number both of his drawings ' 
and sketch books, invariably signed "-G. 
Shepheard." As many of his family are alive 
to-day it would not become me to offer the 
information which should come from them, 
but should your correspondent so desire, no- 
doubt I could refer him to the present holder 
of the name. 

I have a tinted pen-and-ink drawing by 
G. S., described "at Dickenson's, Bond 
Street," and dated 1791 : a group around a 
kitchen fire, one figure marked " G. S." 
apparently the artist. He appears to have 
been a prolific worker with pencil and pen * 
and also in water colours in the style of that 

16 Marlboro' Street, Bolton. 

TITLE OF BOOK WANTED (12 S. v. 267). 
I think the question regards the German 
novelist Ernst von Wildenbruch, who has 
published a most lovable story about two - 
young people from Tanagra and the origin 
of such small Tanagra busts and statuettes. 
Its title was, if I am not mistaken, ' The 
Girl Dancer from Tanagra.' 


Upsala, Sweden. 


(12 S. v. 295.) 

3. The quotation of Thoreau is from the 
Chinese in Legg's translations of the writings of 
Confucius and Mencius. As I have not the 
book at hand I cannot give the exact place. 

Albany, New York. 

(12 S. v. 322.) 

2. MOLLOID'S quotation is by (Mrs.) Anna 
Laetitia Barbauld. The correct ending is 

Bid me good-morning ! 

The lines are the conclusion of the piece with the 
heading 'Life,' No. 474 in 'The Oxford Book of 
English Verse.' The same piece,, but very much 
shortened is given in F. T. Palgrave's 'Golden 
Treasury.' EDWARD BENSLY. 

MR. WM. SELF WEEK& also thanked for replies.] 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 a. vi. JAN., 1920. 

PRINCESS (12 S. v. 264, 296). I am very 
much obliged to LADY RUSSELL for giving 
the correct story, fuller details of which will 
be found in " Lady Login's Recollections," 
which I published in October, 1916 (Smith, 
Elder & Co., now merged in Mr. John 
Murray, Albemarle Street). My cousin, 
Mrs. Gardley, is still in existence, and has a 
son to follow her ! I remember my uncle, 
Colonel John Campbell, well, and all the 

- distress in the family at his disappearance, 
and the details of it, though only a child at 
the time. 

1 The India Office, which has a library and 
archives, could have informed any inquirer 
that the Princess's daughter still draws her 
pension ! We were brought up together by 
my mother, and I was her chief bridesmaid 
at her wedding. E. DALHOUSEE LOGIN. 
Wissett Grange, Halesworth. 

HOUSE (12 S. v. 287). Jacob Bosanquet 
was first appointed a director of the East 
India House on Aug. 22, 1782, and was still 

- acting in that capacity on Lamb's retire- 
ment, in 1825. The other names mentioned 

- in the Essay are fictitious. My authority for 
the statement is The East India Directory 
for 1826. S. BUTTERWORTH. 


A Day-Book of Landor. Chosen by John Bailey 

(Oxford, Clarendon Press, 2*. net.) 
FEW enthusiasts, we think, would be so wedded to 
the products of a single author as to wish to read a 
selection from him every day in the year. But a 
" Day-Book " offers a convenient form for ample 
quotations, and a spice of variety, when, as in 
Landor's case, the writer is distinguished alike in 
verse and prose. Landor, too, is somewhat outside 
the ordinary run of authors and not commonly 
thumbed by the average reader. Yet he is 
excellent reading, and his prediction " I shall dine 
late ; but the dining-room will be well lighted, the 
guests few and select," has long since, we think, 
been verified among judicious tasters of English. 
We thank Mr. Bailey, who is well known as a 
critic of English poetry, for giving us the oppor- 
tunity to revive our pleasure in a master of letters. 
He says that Landor has been very fortunate in 
his editors and critics. The "Golden Treasury" 
volume is, indeed, admirable, and the ' Imaginary 
Conversations ' have long since been made accessible 
to readers of slender purses e.g., in the " Scott 
Library." But there is still no one volume edition 
cf the poems such as we hope to see published with 
an account of Landor's frequent revisions. Mr. 
Bailey remarks that he himself made a distinction 
between "poetry" which "was always my amuse- 
' meut," and "prose my study and business." But 

a man is often happier in his diversions than in his 
set task, and, if Landor's prose naturally occupies 
the larger share in any selection, we cannot do 
without the verse also. The Latin poems, which 
rank high in that form of scholarly recreation, are 
not likely to attract the present unclassical age, nor 
has the long poem of 'Gebir' a host of readers to- 
day. But the brief epigrams, reminding us of the 
gems of the Palatine Anthology, are surely im- 
mortal. We do not call them " the work of a very 
nobly-gifted amateur in poetry." We call them 
successes of the first rank fit to be compared with 
the best things that professionals have done in that 
line. There may be not so much merit in a 
quatrain as there is in a longer poem, but, if it is 
perfect in its way, who wants a cameo to be a bust 
or a statue ? Having made this protest, we readily 
assent to all Mr. Bailey's acute judgments of 
Landor's prose. Often it represents Landor speak- 
ing, though the voice is another's ; but so noble a 
voice deserves an "easy access to the hearer's 

The really odd contrast is that between the 
serenity of Landor's writing, and the abrupt 
violence of his behaviour, which Dickens took for 
his Mr. Boythorn in ' Bleak House.' If Landor's 
' mind was too statuesque for drama," his way of 
bursting out in actual life was very different. His 
sympathies were warm, and warmly exhibited, and 
his taste in authors was occasionally odd. It 
seems pure perversity for any poet to dislike Plato 
and to applaud the wisdom and genius of Cicero, 
who was not in the least original or impassioned, 
and without his model style would have sunk into 
deserved neglect. Landor's tribute to Shakespeare 
pleases us much better, but he was as Mr. Bailey 
happily remarks, "much more like Milton." 

The range of the 'Imaginary Conversatioi^' is 
surprisingly wide, and without going deep into the 
speculation which worries many a modern soul, 
they are full of sound lessons in art and experience 
of life. In remarking that " authors should never 
be seen by authors, and little by other people " 
Landor is echoing the wisdom of Johnson. We 
are reminded, as we look through the little book, 
of many sayings that are not new to the world of 
letters ; but Landor had no need to wish those 
away who anticipated or followed him in a parti- 
cular thought. In his life he avoided all competi- 
tions ; he need not have done so, for his style of 
writing clear, monumental, dignified satisfies 
the most rigorous judges, and he can say more in a 
sentence than most critics. Witness the remark 
he gives to Person about Spenser. "There is 
scarcely a poet of the same eminence, whom I have 
found so delightful to read in, or so tedious to 
read through." 

The edition we notice has a paper cover : that 
in cloth would, we think, be preferable. 

Ireland in Fiction. By Stephen J. Brown, S.J. 
(Maunsel & Co., Ltd., 10s. 6d. net.) 

WHEN the first edition of ' Ireland in Fiction ' 
was destroyed by fire in 1916, those fortunate 
possessors of the few copies which survived the 
catastrophe were able to forge ahead in their 
studies of Irish life as seen through the coloured 
glasses of a novelist's spectacles. Those students, 
however, who were less lucky, have now in their 
hands a second edition of this useful compilation, 
in which much new material has been incor- 
porated. The volume before us is something 

12 S. VI. JAN., 1920.] 



more than a catalogue and less than a biblio- 
graphy. It is really a conveniently arranged 
hand-list of books in fiction, romance, and folk- 
lore which have any pronounced reference to 
Ireland or the Irish people. It comprises over 
1,700 entries, and an excellent feature is the short 
annotation and descriptive remarks which accom- 
pany the great majority of the references. It is 
not, however, quite clear what method of selection 
the author has employed when it is a question of 
choosing tbe various editions. Thus, on p. 256, 
a book by Prevost is recorded called ' Le Doyen 
de Kellerine ' (it should be " Killerine "), and 
'the edition given is that published at La Haye in 
. 1744. '^ Why this edition is selected for the main 
entry instead of the first, which was published in 
Paris, we do not know ; neither is it clear at first 
^ight why ' Le Doyen de Killerine ' finds a place 
and the ' Campaynes philosophiques ' (Amster- 
dam, 1742) does not. Barring a few minor faults 
of this kind, the book will be found an excellent 
guide to lovers of Irish tales, and we congratulate 
"the author on the index of subjects and titles, 
which^is only too often wanting in works of this 

The Value and the Methods of Mythologic Study 
(from the Proceedings of the British Academy, 
vol. ix.). By L. R. FarneU. (Milford, Is. 6d.) 
DR. FARNELL usefully surveys the chief schools 
of thought and method, and justly emphasizes 
the complexity of the sources of myths. But 
after he stresses the necessity of psychological 
insight, it is strange to find no reference to the 
pioneer endeavours of the psycho-analysts to 
find out how, what and why human beings, 
^civilized and savage, think and feel. 


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For the lovers of travel he provides a wonderful 
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NOTES: London Coffee-houses, Taverns, and Inns in the 
Eighteenth Century, 29 Brontosauri Existence Eliza- 
bethan Guesses, 32 Relics of Wanstead Park, 33 
Fielding's Ancestors at Sharpham Park, Somerset 
Chateman, Bedlaraer, <fec , 34 Plough -jags Iron- 
mongers' Hall "Dead" Reckoning, 35. 
QUERIES :-Prinee Charles in North Devon Value of 
Money Bishops of Durham Morgan Baronetcies 
Mathew Myerse, 36 Leigh Hunt on Shelley' New Bath 
Guide ' Holmes Family of Devonshire " Tubus " : a 
Christian Name Rev. James Hews Bransby Sims 
D >ra Wilberfoss-Gogibus-Swartva,gher Knock Hun- 
dred Row, Midhurst Dreux Family, 37 Gordon : a 
Jacobite Banker at Boulogne Mrs. Gordon, Novelist 
Inscription on Stone " The Whole Duty of Man " 
TJnc 'llected Kipling Items Boece's 'History of Scot- 
land,' 38 Harris Family Method of Remembering 
P igures Oliver Batmanson Clergymen at _Waterloo 
Sir Robert Bell Hallowe'en James Scandinavia, Ice- 
lanri, Finland T. Forster M.B. C. Parker, 39 
Venables Cistercian Buildings R. O'Shaognessy 
"Cockagee" :" Cypf3te 'William Ellis Samuel Row- 
lands James I. : Cormorants, &c., for Fishing, 40 Sarah's 
Coffee-house " Fray " Cavalier Officers ' Hocus 
Pocu*' : ' A Rich Gift' Henry Coddingtpn Finch Family 
Louis de Boullongnr English Version of Quotation 
Wan'ed Lord Bnwen : Daniel in the Lions' Den, 41. 
REPLIES : Henry Washingron English Army List, 42 
G. Borrow: Lieur,. Parry, 43 "Now Then!" Lewknor 
Family ' DeS*nctis' : *r. Bethothe en Copland Yeardye 
Family Hidden Names in (Elizabethan Books Bishops 
of Fifteenth Century, 44 Ann of Swansei Capt. Robt. 
Boyle Cistercian Order North of England Leper's 
Windows, 45 Ensign Oliver Cromwell Lord John 
Vaughan : Dehany, 46" Est melius," &c. Capt. J. C. 
Grant-Duff-Ship's Yards a'cock-bill Tradesmen's Cards 
William Hoorde Bird-scaring Songs, 47 ' In Flanders' 
Fields' Gavelacre Birds Poisoning Captive Young 
Romeland Medireval Immurement The Log House, 48 
Longworth Castle Boyer Family- Elephant and Castle, 
49 Beaconsfleld's Birthplace" A little garden little 
Jowett made," 50 Grafton, Oxon Bank Note Slang, 51 
Deal as a Place of Call Green Holly Authors of 
Quotations Wanted. 52. 

NOTKS ON BOOKS : ' Stones and Story of Jesus Chapel ' 
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THE following tables give at a glance the 
localities of the more frequented chocolate- 
houses, coffee-houses, taverns and inns that 
flourished in or near London during the 
eighteenth century. Only such clubs are 
included as possessed premises of their own. 
The references in the fourth column indicate 
often in abbreviated form, where detailed 
information relative to each house may be 
sought. The date of the reference, where 
ascertainable, has been prefixed. Many o: 
the authorities cited will be found, when 

consulted, to supply further sources of in- 
formation. The list is arranged alpha- 
betically ; where no descriptive word follows 
a title-name in the first column, " coffee- 
house " is to be understood. To the 
remainder, " chocolate-house," " tavern," 
or " inn " is appended in accordance with 
the nature of the " entertainment " that was 
offered. It is hoped the compilation may 
be of occasional assistance to those engaged 
in eighteenth-century studies. The follow- 
ing abbreviations have been employed to 
economise space : 


Besant = Sir Walter Besant's ' London in the Eigh- 
teenth Century,' 1902. 
Birkbeck Hill = G.' BirUbeck Hills ' Boswell's Life 

of Johnson,' 1887. 5 vols. 
Clayden's ' Rogers ' = P. W. Clayden's 'The Early 

Life of Samuel Rogers,' 1887. 
Climenson's E. M.=E. J. Climenson's 'Elizabeth 

Montagu,' 2 vols., 1V06. 
Cunningham Peter Cunningham's ' Handbook of 

London, Past and Present,' 1850. 
Dickins and Stanton=Diokins and Stanton's ' An 

Ei^hreenth-Cencury Correspondence,' 1910. 
~).N- B. =' Dictionary of National Riogmphy.' 
Fielding's C.G.J. = Fielding's Covent Garden 

Journa I 

omme's G.M.L. = Gentleman's Magazine Library, 
edited by Laurence Gornme, 1905 ; pts. 15,16, 17. 
ETardcastle = Ephraim Hardcastle's ' Wine and 

Walnuts.' 2 vols., 1824. 
Hare = Augustus J. C Hare's 'Walks in London,' 

2 vols., 1878. 

Hickey =' Memoirs of William Hickey,' 2 vols., 1914. 
Hist. MSS. Com. = Historical Manuscripts Com- 
Humphreys' ' Memoirs ' = R. Humphreys' ' Memoirs 

of J. I)e Castro, co median,' 1824. 
.T.R S.A.= Journal of the Royal Society of Arts. 
Larwood=J. Larwood and J. C. Hotten's 'The 

History of Signboards,' 3rd ed 1866. 
Macn iohael's 'Charing Cross '=J. Holden Mac- 

michael's ' The Story of Charing Cross,' 1906. 
Mor ley's ' Baretti ' = Lacy Collison - Morley's 

' Giuseppe Baretti.' 1909. 
Price's ' Marygold '=F. G. Hilton Price's 'The 

Marygold by Temple Bar,' 1902. 
R.E.A. C. = Plan in the possession of the Royal 

Exchange Assurance Corporation. 
Roach's L. P.P. = Roach's ' London Pocket Pilot, or 

Stranger's Guide,' 1793. 
Shelley's ' Inns '= Henry C. Shelley's 'Inns and 

Taverns of Old London.' 1909. 
Stirling's A.Y.H. = A. M. W. Stirling's 'Annals 

of a Yorkshire Hou^e,' 2 vols., 1911. 
Swift's ' Journal ' =Swift's 'Journal to Stella.' 
Sydney's ' XVIII. Century ' = W. C. Sydney's ' Eng- 
land and the English in the Eighteenth Cen- 
tury,' 2 vols., 2nd ed., 1891. 
Thorn bury = Walter Thornbury's 'Old and New 

London,' 6 vols., 1897. 

Warwick Wroth = Warwick Wroth's ' The Lon- 
don Pleasure Gardens of the Eighteenth Cen- 
tury,' 1896. 

Wheatley's ' London ' Henry B. Wheatleys' ' Lon- 
don Past and Present,' 3 vols., 1891. 


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Abingtons . . 
Adam and Eve 


.Allen's . . , 

AJmack's (after- 
wards Brooks's) 

Anderton's . . 


Angel Tavern 
Angel Inn 

Angel and Crown 


.Angel and Crown 
Apple Tree Tavern 
Apple Tree and Bell 

Arthur's Chocolate 


Near Gray's Inn, Holborn 1755 Public Advertiser, May 8. 
At junction of Tottenham Shelley's 'Inns,' p. 153 ; Hogarth's ' March 
Road and Hampstead to Finchley ' ; Sydney's ' XVIII. Cen- 

Boad tury,' i. 25 ; Warwick Wroth, p. 77. 

Adelphi, Strand .. .. 1787 Gibbon to Ld. Sheffield. 

St. Michael's Alley (opposite Besant, p. 332; Roach's L.P.P., p. 64. 

the Jamaica) 
Church Court, near St. 1737 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 164. 

Martin 's-in-the-Fields 
Pall Mall . . . . . . 1763 Lady Molly Cornwallis. Hist. MSS. Com., 

Various Coll., vi. 302. 
1765 Stirling's A.Y.H., i. 327-31. 
1768 G. Selwyn to Ld. Carlisle, Hist. MSS. Com., 

15th Rep., pt. vi., pp. 229, 245. 
1776 Gibbon, June 24. 

1779 Stirling's A.Y.H., ii. 132 ; Birkbeck Hill, 
iii. 23 ; Besant, p. 323 ; Cunningham, 
p. 10 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 275 ; Wheat- 
ley's ' London,' i. 37. 
Fleet Street .. .. 1773 Price's ' Marygold,' p. 118: Shelley's 'Inns, 1 

p. 78. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 47. 

On site of Piccadilly Hotel ' A Twentieth-Century Palace,' 1908, p. 30. 
At back of St. Clement's 1766 Hickey, i. 65. 

and Chancery Lane 

Fenchurch Street . . 
St. Giles's .. 

Threadneedle Street 

Threadneedle Street 

1769 Public Advertiser, Mar. 28 ; Shelley's 
' Inns,' p. 101 ; Larwood, p. 267 ; 
Wheatley's ' London,' i. 48. 

Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' p. 281. 

Hare, ii. 157. 

Wteatley's ' London,' i. 47 ; Shelley' 

' Inns,' p. 157. 
1715 Straus's ' Carriages and Coaches,' 1912, 

p. 157. 

1778 Gomme's G.M.L., pt. xv., p. 97. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 54. 

Charles St., Covent Garden 1716 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 50. 
Brewers' Yard, Hun gerford 1723 Weekly Journal, Jun. 5.; MacMichael's 

St. James's Street 

' Charing Cress,' p. 97. 
.. 1736 Wheatley's 'Hogarth's London,' p. 299. 
1756 J. Fielding's ' Duke of Newcastle's Police.' 
1773 Birkbeck Hill, v. 84 ; Wheatley' s ' London,' 
i. 65 ; J.R.S.A., 1911, p. 787 ; Cunning- 
ham, p. 19. 
in 1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 56. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 161. 

Bank . . . . Opposite " Baker's 

"Barn Tavern . . Near Hemming's Rents, 

St. Martin's Lane 
Bates' .. .. Behind the Royal Exchange 1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 59. 

Batson's . . . . Cornhill 1746 Fielding's ' Plain Truth ' ; Fielding's ' True 

Patriot,' No. 10. 

1754 The Connoisseur, January. 
1758 Compston's ' Magdalen Hospital,' 1917, 

p. 39. 

1772 Compston's ' Magdalen Hospital,' 1917, 
p. 122 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 173 ; Besant, 
p. 311 ; Cunningham, p. 38 ; Wheatley's 
' London,' i. 125. 

Bear Tavern . . Foot of London Bridge, 1761 Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 21 ; Larwood, p. 154. 


Bear Tavern .. Strand 1707 Cunningham, p. 15. 

Bear Inn .. .. Basinghall Street (at No.31) Harben's 'Dictionary of London,' 1918, 

p. 58. 

Bedford Arms Little Piazza, Covent Gar- 1732 Hogarth's ' Five Day's Peregrination.' 

Tavern den (east side) 1768 Hickey, i. 103 ; Wheatley's ' Hosarth's 

London,' pp. 273, 282 ; Dobson's 
' Hogarth,' 1907. p. 25. 

Bedford .. .. Great Piazza, Covent Gar- 1736 London Daily Post, Feb. 24. 
den 1739 Fielding's Champion, Dec. 10. 

1752 Fielding's C.G.J., No. 60 ; Humphrey's 

' Memoirs,' p. 216. 
1754 The Connoisseur, January. 
1765 Hickey, i. 71 : ii. 90 : Shelley's ' Inns,' 
p. 205 ; Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' 
p. 273 ; Cunningham, P. 42 ; Wheatley's 
' London,' i. 142. 

S VI. FEB., 1920.] 



Southampton Street, 
Covent Garden 

Bell Inn 
Bell Inn 

Bell and Dragon . . 

Belle Sauvage 
Bible Tavern 

Black Horse 

Black Jack (The 

Black Lion 
Black Queen 
Black Swan 
Blue Boar Inn 

Blue Posts Tavern 
Blue Posts 
Boar's Head 

iBoar's Head Tavern 



-i Braundls Head 

1 Bricklayprs's Arms 

j British x . . . . 


i Brown's 

1 Brown's . . 

Buffalo Head Tavern 

Bull Inn . . 

i Bull's Head Tavern 

5 Bull (Black Bull) . . , 

I Bull Head .. 

1732 Cunningham, p. 43. 

1741 Walpole to Mann, Nov. 23 ; Shelley's 

' Inns,' p. 117 ; Wheatley's ' London,' 

i. 143. 
Warwick Wroth, p. 194. 

Fitzgerald's ' Catherine Clive,' 1888, p. 4. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 143 ; Cunningham 

p. 273. 

Hare, i. 159. 

Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' p. 272 ; 

Hogarth's ' Harlot's Progress,' Plate I. 
Street, Charing 1756 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 131. 

Thornbury, i. 217, 221. 
1755 Public Advertiser, April 4. 

Hare, i. 104 ; Wheatley's ' Hogarth a 

London,' pp. 273, 279. 
MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 174. 


Church Bow, Houndsditch 

King Street, Westminster 

Warwick Lane 

Wood Street, Cheapside . . 


Ludgate Hill 
New Bond Street 
Shire Lane, Fleet Street . . 

On the site of the present 

Portsmouth Street, Lin- 
coln's Inn Fields 

Whitef riars 

Shacklewell Green 


Holborn (on site of Inns of 
Court Hotel) 

Haymarket (at No. 59) 

Spring Gardens 

High Street, Southwark . . 

Fleet Street 

St. James's Street (No. 28) 

Bond Street 
Old Kent Road 

Sydney's ' XVIII. Century,' i. 194. 

Thornbury, i. 186, 195. 

Warwick Wroth, p. 173. 

1706 The Connoisseur, Feb., 1914, p. 88. 

Hare, ii. 190 ; Cunningham, p. 61 ; Larwood, 

p. 288 ; Wheatley's ' London,' i. 210. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 148 ; Wheatley s 

' London,' i. 212. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 149 ; MacMichael a 

' Charing Cross,' p. 168. 
1784 Birkbeck Hill, v. 247 ; Sydney's ' XVIII. 

Century,' i. 193 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 30 ; 

Cunningham, p. 62 ; Larwood, p. 379 ; 

Wheatley's ' London,' i. 215. 
1720 Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 22. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 78 ; Cunningham, p. 63. 
1771 Edw. Gibbon to his stepmother, Mar. 29 ; 

Hickey, i. 299. 

1774 Edw. Gibbon, May 4 ; Wheatley's ' Lon- 
don,' i. 222 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 284 ; 
Besant, p. 324 ; Cunningham, p. 64. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 48. 

Wheatley's ' London,' i. 237. 

Cockspur Street (almost op- 1722 1 Q , ,, , <T > _ 990 

posite the Cannon," ad- 1759/ SheUev s Inns ' p ' 223 ' 
joining the Court of 1772 Birkbeck Hill, ii. 195 ; iv. 179 ; Mac- 
Request) Michael's ' Charing Cross,' pp. 35, 282 ; 

Wheatley's ' London,' i. 250 ; Besant 
p. 313. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 52 ; Cunningham, p. 74. 
1778 J. Hare to Ld. Carlisle, Hist. MSS. Com., 

15th Rep., pt. vi., p. 371. 
1781 G. Selwyn to Ld. Carlisle, ib,, p. 461. 
1784 Birkbeck Hill, ii. 292 ; iv. 279, 358 ; 
Cunningham, p. 82 ; Wheatley's ' Lon- 
don,' i. 286. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 47. 
" Within the verge of the 1751 Fielding's ' Amelia,' viii. 1. 

Court " 

. Charing Cross . . . . Larwood, p. 186. 
Lekdenhall Street (north 1765 Gen. Mag., Plan of Great Fire ; ' N. & Q., 

aide) Dec. 9, 1916, p. 463. 

. Clare Market . . . . 1740 ' Life of Mrs. Cibber,' reprinted 1887 ; 

Larwood, p. 186 ; ' Lives of British 
Physicians,' 1830, p. 127. 
. .Bishopsgate Street (No. 93) 1700 Jebb's ' Life of Bentley,' ch. vi. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 59 ; Wheatley s Lon- 
don,' i. 298 ; Larwood, p. 92 ; Shelley's 

, Old Spring Garden 

St. James's Street 

Near Temple 

' Inns,' p. 48 ; Cunningham, p. 88. 
1703 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 31. 


. ( To be continued.) 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. FEB., 1920, 


SEARCH for possible survival of the Bron- 
tosaurus brings to mind that the subject of 
extinct monsters was under discussion nearly 
a century ago, seriously in Davy's ' Conso- 
lation of Travel,' and in lire's ' Geology,' 
and humorously in a poem by Chandos 
Leigh entitled ' The Sauri,' printed in his 
'Fifth Epistle to a Friend, 1835,' full of 
amusing literary references. Brief extracts 
will show Leigh's style : 

Ere as it is the world its course begun. 

The world o'erteemed with children of the sun 

Goliath lizards of a former age 

When a hot temperature was all the rage 

Though heat-begotten monsters we encase 

Jn our museums, perish'd have the race. 

Whether they were herbivorous, or ate 

Dirt like an Otomac, I cannot state. 

They thirsted not, like monsters since the flood 

Begot the taste is ancient too for blood 

Perchance, as Waterton a crocodile 

Rode, they were ridden though in length a mile ! 

Conjecture here geologists advance 

But sober truths loves somewhat to romance. 

The freeborn Sauri scorned a reigning lord. 

Half-monkey and half-tiger, beast-abhorred, 

That rides, like tailors on their fluttering geese, 

A many-headed hydra, not with ease 

Shallow, as Trinculo deem'd Caliban, 

Whether through fens they paddled, crept, or ran 

Singing in chorus marshy songs, devouring 

Fern salads, like our idlers bored, and boring. 

They lived chronologists may guess the time 

And then returned to what they came from 


Ere Alorus they lived ; or to go higher 
Ere lived forefathers of a Cambrian squire* 
They may, sublimed into another sort 
Of beings, through ethereal space transport 
Themselves with a rapidity intense, 
With tubes provided, every tube a sense. 
Such Davy sa-w, or dreamed he saw, at Rome. 
Philosophers have sober views at home 

Would (hey were now alive, consuming wheat, 

And kept by rich zoologists to eat 

They, like Napoleon, prices might exalt 

More than remission of the tax on malt ; 

And land-owners would cease to grieve, that they 

With crippled means increased rent-charges pay. 

Soon would they disappear on Erin's bogs, 

Cherished, as Isaac Walton cherished frogs, 

To be impaled by Orange seers, who hope 

To prove that monsters symbolize the Pope 

Especially if their long tails emit 

A phosphorescent light like Irish wit ! 

W. JAGGARD, Capt. 

Central Registry, Repatriation Records, 

* Refers to Cadwallader, whose ancestry, accord" 
ing to Foote's " Author," was older than the 


' A MAUSOLEAN LAMENT,' 1651, by Samuel 
Sheppard, has some rather cryptic allusions, 
not yet cleared up. He makes quite obvious 
references in his catalogue of poets to- 
Spenser and to Sidney, and says, after 
paying tribute to this latter idol of all 
England : 

Alter him rose as sweet a Swaine 
As ever pip'd upon the Plain. 
He sang of warres, and Tragedies 
He warbled forth : on him the eye{sl 
Of all the Shepheards fixed were, 
Rejoicing much his songs to hear.' 

Of course, it is just possible that the man- 
pointed at here is Drayton ; the verse might 
be accepted as somewhat descriptive of 
' Piers Gaveston,' ' Matilda,' and ' The 
Tragicall Legend of Robert, Duke of Nor- 
mandy,' or of the better known ' Morti- 
meriados,' republished as ' The Barrens 
Wars ' in 1603. Drayton of the satires and 
the lovely pastorals, the useful, if rather 
boring, ' Polyolbion,' and the ringing shorter 
' Agincourt,' is barely recognisable as a 
"warbler" of "tragedies." Whom else, 
then, would the lines suit ? Not Marlowe : 
for his own day thought him not " sweet," 
but bold and dangerous. Would not Daniel 
be a safe guess ? Drummond, perhaps with 
his eye chiefly upon ' Delia ' and ' The 
Complaynt of Rosamond,' commends Daniel 
precisely for his " sweetnesse of rhyming " ; 
and certainly ' Cleopatra ' and ' Philotas ' 
and ' The Civill Warres ' in eight books 
come forward well, as candidates for Shep- 
pard' s clumsy praise. Bibliographically, 
also, Daniel follows Sidney even more 
closely than Drayton does. Sidney's first 
(posthumous) publications appeared in 1590- 
and 1591 ; Daniel's in 1592 ; Drayton's in 

And then lived He who sweetly sung 

Orlando's fate in his own tongue. 

Who wpuld not deigne t' divulge his own, 

But by another would be known, 
. O gentle Shepheard ! we to thee 

Are bound in a supream degree. 

It would seem as if this translator of 
Afiosto, dignified with a capital letter, can 
be no other than Sir John Harington. 
Queen Elizabeth, his dreaded godmother, 
made him do the ' Orlando Furioso.' The 
circumstances were a matter of public know- 
ledge ; there was no attempt not to "divulge " 
Sir John's name or " fate " : this latter 
Sheppard actually says, but does not in the 
least mean ! Is the first edition of the 
'Orlando' in English, 1591, anonymous 

*2 S. VI FEB., 1920.J 



or pseudonymous ? (I write away from 
libraries.) If so, the passage is no longer 

Sheppard goes on : 

And after him a swain arose 
Jin whom sweet Ovids Spirit chose 
For to reside : he sang of Love, 
How Cupid Ladies hearts can move; 

(A reader pricks up his ears ; for this is 
exactly the way in which people long ago 
were wont to talk of Shakespeare ! But the 
sequence takes a new turn) : 

And each [eke] how large the Continent 
Of Arcadie is in extent. 
He prais'd his Maker in his Layes, 
And from a King receiv'd th,e Bayes. 

Apparently, we have stumbled upon a 
poet laureate. This at once cuts out Chap- 
;man, and the wandering of one's mind 
.towards his ' Ovids Banquet of Sence,' and 
the " hymnes " with which he began and 
nded his long career. The amatory yet pious 
subject of Sheppard' s reference is this time, 
I think, really Drayton. Hardly could this 
ill-expressed stanza fit that other laurelled 
head, Father Ben's, whose secretary Shep- 
pard was at one time, unless his many 
' Masques ' justify the mention of Arcady, 
and Drayton' s ' Nimphidia ' does not. For 
sacred verse the latter author's sup- 
pressed ' Harmonie of the Church ' will 
pass muster ; while the two ' Idea ' 
groups of poems may perhaps justify the 
bringing in of " sweet Ovid's Spirit " by the 

Daniel, Harington, Drayton, make an 
oddly assorted trio. If Sheppard intends, 
as we suspect, to commemorate these, he 
is honouring the bookish heroes of his 
earliest youth, and of the generation just 
before him. He proceeds to laudation of 
contemporaries and co-Royalists. " Suck- 
ilin," according to this bard, rivals Beaumont 
and Fletcher. We all think well nowa- 
days of Suckling's happy and delicately 
slap-dash genius, but would hardly seat 
liim among the divinities as a writer 
of plays . Davenant is, to Sheppard, 
worth all his forerunners rolled into 
-one : he is the " first-prefer'd of Apollo." 

a Shepheard cag'd in stone 

Destin'd unto destruction, 

<jan be none other than Sir William Davenant, 
whom the Roundheads had this very 
moment (1651) in prison, where he was 
rpluekily finishing his admired ' Gondibert.' 
Next in merit to Davenant, Sheppard 
. places Shirley, as he does again on p. 39 

of the ' Epigrams.' The critical acumen 
displayed in our citations is no worse 
than that dear century's average. The ex- 
asperating defect of the little book is its lack 
of psychology, the inability to conceive 
and pass on a sharp impression, a portrait- 
sketch which, as the French say, leaps to the 
eye, and compels recognition. 



THE markings on the stone entablature to 
which MB. LEONARD C. PRICE refers in his 
question at 12 S. v. 293 suggest that he has 
alighted upon one of the many job -lots 
which were ruthlessly dispersed in the 
great sale that marked the downfall of the 
ambition of Child, the sometime autocrat 
of the East India Company (Sir Henry Yule 
says Child was " christened " Josia, not 
Josias, or Josiah) who was once dubbed 
" the Satrap of the Indies." In his un- 
finished History of England Lord Macaulay 
bestowed a great deal of trouble and he 
evidently intended much more upon this 
remarkable personage, who, as he says, 
" attained such ascendancy in the East 
India House that soon many of the most 
important posts, both in Leadenhall Street 
and in the factories of Bombay and Bengal 
were filled by his kinsmen and creatures." 
Beginning as a merchant's apprentice and 
office -sweeper, Child had peddled obscurely 
in marine stores, when, about 1655, he is 
seen engaged at Portsmouth in furnishing 
stores for the Navy. Macaulay leaves 
" Josia " fighting with unbroken spirit for 
the maintenance of the seriously threatened 
monopoly of the East India Company 
against all " interlopers," and very frankly 
expressing for a troublesome House of 
Commons the bitterest contempt. " Be 
guided by my instructions," writes Child 
to the Agents of the Company, " and not 
by the nonsense of a few ignorant country 
gentlemen who have hardly wit enough to 
manage their own private affairs, and who 
know nothing at all about questions of 
trade." The laws of England were, 
in the Satrap's opinion, " a heap of 
nonsense," compiled by these rural per- 
sons " who hardly know how to make 
laws for the good government of their 
own families, much less for the regula- 
tion of companies and foreign commerce " 
a notion which sounds strangely 
modern ! 


[128. VI. FEB., 1920. 


Sir J. Child, for whom, of course, a 
" coat " was soon found, became the super 
nabob of what had once been part of th 
Forest of Essex, and had spent i 

large portion of his great fortune upon the 
construction of a lordly palace and pleasaunce 
when he was visited by John Evelyn on 
March 15, 1683. The entry in the Diary 
under date March 16 is : 

"I went- to see Sir Josiah Child's prodigious cos' 
in planting walnut trees about his seate, anc 
making tish ponds, many miles in circuit, in Epping 
Forest, in a barren spot, as oftentimes these suddenly 
monied men, for the most part, seate themselves. 
He, from a merchant's apprentice and management 
of the East India Company's Stock, being ariv'd 
to an Estate ('tis said) of 200,000, and lately 
married his daughter to the Eldest Soun of the 
Duke of Beaufort, late Marquis of Worcester, with 
50,000 portional present, and various expecta- 
And, by the by, Evelyn adds : 

" I dined at Mr. Houblon's, a rich and gentle 
French merchant (Morant in his 'History of Essex' 
says the Family were eminent merchants in the 
time of Queen Elizabeth) who was building a house 
in the Forest, near Sir J. Child's, in a place 
where the late Earl of Norwich dwelt some time, 
and which came from his lady the widow of Mr. 
Baker. It will be a pretty villa, about five miles 
from Whitechapel." 


When on July 17, 1758, Horace Walpole 
wrote to Richard Bentley, he said : 

" I dined yesterday at Wanstead. Many years 
have passed since 1 saw it. The disposition of the 
house and the prospects are better than I expected, 
afid very fine ; the garden, which they tell you, 
cost as much as the House, that is, 100,000, is 
wretched ; the furniture fine but totally without 
taste ; such continences and incontinences of 
Scipio and Alexander, by 1 don't know whom ! 
Such flame-coloured gods and goddesses, by Kent ! 
Such family pieces i believe the late Earl him- 
self (the heirs of Child, now Irish Peers, were in 
possession), for they are as ugly as the children 
that he really begot ! The whole great apartment 
is of oak, finely carved, unpainted, and has a charm- 
ing effect. The present Earl is the most generous 
creature in the world ; in the first chamber I 
entered he offered me four marble tables that lay 
in cases about the room ; I compounded, after forty 
refusals, with only a haunch of vension ; I believe 
he has not had so cheap a visit a good while. I 
commend myself as 1 ought, for to t>e sure, there 

inspired by the fortunes of the heirs of the 
Satrap of the Indies and the downfall and 
ignominies of the rococo and garish glories of 
Wanstead House, the site of which is a turf- 
covered mound used as a golf -ground by the 
denizens of the neighbourhood by grace of 
the Corporation of London whose charge 
of Wanstead Park is one of the most public 
spirited of its latter day enterprises as their 
first municipality in the kingdom. -** 

and a glass that would have tried the virtue of a 
philosopher of double my size ! " 


It was at Lake House, an appanage of the 
Child-Tylney palace, that Thomas Hood 
dwelt for the four years to 1836. His fierce 
satire in the story of Miss Kilmansegg was 

PARK, SOMERSET. It may be worth while 
to put on record some facts, which I have 
recently noted, indicating how Henry Field- 
ing's birthplace at Sharpham came into the 
possession of his mother's family. 

Richard Davidge, a London merchant, 
bought the estate from the Dyer family and 
others in 1657, and in 1692, after the deaths 
of himself, his widow, and five of his children, 
the whole of the considerable Davidge 
property had come to three of the merchant's 
daughters, viz., Sarah, wife of Henry (after- 
wards Sir Henry) Gould, grandmother of the 
novelist, Katherine, wife of Charles Cot- 
ington of Funthill, Wilts, and Ann Davidge., 
There can be no doubt that Sarah brought 
Sharpham to her husband as her share of her 
Bather's and brothers' estates. 

The Davidges were a family of merchants' 
settled for a century or more at Bridport. 

Sir Henry Gould: 
Burke' s ' Landed 

and Dorchester, Dorset, 
was not, as stated in 

He was in fact a son of. 
a yeoman of Winsham,. 

Gentry,' a member of the Gould family of 

Jpwey, Dorset. 
Andrew Gould, 

Somerset, and a grandson of Henry Gould, 
also a yeoman living at the same place. 

Thus in Fielding the " blue blood " he 

nherited from his father was mingled with 
another kind of blood (yeoman and com^ 
rnercial) derived from his mother. 

F. J. POPE.. 
17 Holland Road, W.14. 

CRATEMAN, BEDLAMER, &c. I have re- 
cently discovered two earlier instances of 
names given to occupations than those 
recorded in ' N.E.D.', and it may be worth 
while to place them in ' N. & Q.' for per- 

" Crateman," i.e., a hawker of pottery, is 
given in the Burnley Parish Register in 1650, 
twenty-nine years earlier than the reference 
in the ' Oxford Dictionary ' ; and " bed 1 - 
lamer " a lunatic, will be found in the 
Croston Parish Register for 1640, the 
earliest quotation in ' N.E.D.' being 1675, 

1'2 S. VI. FEB., 19LH).] 



other rarely met with occupations 
are " glaseman," in 1625 (Wigan), a hawker 
: in glassware, but in 1599 (Middleton) a 
similar individual is described as a " carier 
of glasses " (alienigena) and in 1623 (Wigan) 
as a " glasyer." In 1677 (Croston) a 
" dryster " is met with, as a person em- 
ployed in drying something, probably in a 
"bleach field, although, of course, he may 
have been employed in a pottery, as there 
are mention "in the same Register of 
"Throwers, Fanners, and Pipers, all terms 
used in the manufacture of pottery, but 
'these would probably be used by persons 
peregrinating the country as hawkers, as 
'there were no potteries in the districts 
mentioned at the dates given. 


PLOUGH-JAGS. We have this day, Jan. 7, 
"had a fine " gang " of plough- jags from 
Burton here. I remember when every 
village had its own " gang," but for many 
years Burton-on-Stather has provided the 
only " gang " in this neighbourhood. The 
word is given in ' N.E.D.,' with quotations 
from Peacock's ' Ralf Skirlaugh.' It is 
probably a variant of " plough jogger, one 
^who jogs or pushes a plough " (1605, 1658, 
<<?, 1787), a ploughman. The local folk-lore 
should be put on record. A Winterton 
-woman used to say that " when flood was 
out over all the earth and they came out of 
^Noah's ark they was all so pleased that they 
'dressed theirselves up wi' bits o' things an' 
danced about, an' the's been plew-jags 
ever sin'." * 

There is a list of the characters sustained 
at Bottesford near Brigg in 1882, in 
'Between Trent and Ancholme,' p. 316. 

J. T. F. 
'Winterton, Doncaster. 

IRONMONGERS' HALL. It should be noted 
in ' N. & Q.' that, following the damage 
-done by German air-raids in June, 1917, 
and with a view to the erection of a pile of 
-city offices, the Hall of the Ironmongers' 
Company at 117 Fenchurch Street has been 
demolished. The original hall of the Com- 
pany was in Ironmonger Lane in Cheapside : 
the Company acquired its Fenchurch Street 
property in 1457. A hall was built at the 
southern end of it in 1587, and that was 
rebuilt in 1750. The building now de- 
stroyed had no special features of interest, 
'but the vanishing of such a landmark 
.should not pass unrecorded 

W. ll. QUARREL. 

RECKONING. Lloyd's List of October 29 
draws attention to an article lately con- 
tributed by Mr. Henry Harries of the 
Meteorological Office to The Morning Post 
on the meaning and origin of the nautical 
locution " dead reckoning." Mr. Harries 
took pains to point out that all the lexico- 
graphers down to Sir James Murray repeat 
the old stereotyped definition of the formula 
as it occurs in Dr. Gregory's ' Complete 
Dictionary of the Arts and Sciences ' 

." In navigation the calculation made of a ship's 
place by means of a compass and log ; the first 
serving to point out the course she sails on, and 
the other the distance run. From these two things 
given, the skilful mariner, making proper allowance 
for the variation of the compass, leeway Currents, 
etc., is enabled, without any observation of the Sim 
or stars, to ascertain the ship's place tolorably 

While this description is specifically 
correct as far as it goes, there has been no 
enlightenment vouchsafed hitherto as to 
how the epithet " dead " came to be applied 
to the skipper's somewhat elaborate calcu- 
lation, the word's meaning being classed 
in the ' N.E.D.' s.v. 5, as " unrestricted, 
unbroken ; absolute, complete, utmost." 

Mr. Harries, however, through long 
familiarity with the logs of the Royal Navy, 
which date back to about the year 1650, 
had the good fortune some little time back 
to make a valuable discovery. Before the 
date in question, it appears, printed log- 
books were not supplied by the Admiralty, 
and captains were in the habit of entering 
their runs in a journal ruled into different 
columns. Through lack of space the column 
that indicated the latitude deduced from 
the reckoning of the vessel's course bore 
sometimes the abbreviated heading " Ded. 
(Latt.) " ; and this formula came gradually 
into general use, and was adopted un- 
questioningly by English and American 
mariners throughout the world ; so that the 
true word's actual connotation was quite 
lost sight of, and its proper origin obscured. 
The greater illiteracy of seafaring men in 
those days no doubt contributed to the 
preservation of the secret, which may have 
been further aided by the frequency of 
naval wars with the Dutch, French, and 
Spaniards, and the many hostile encounters 
occurring with privateers, pirates, and 

The Dutch equivalent of the designation 
is ruwe berekening, rough estimate, and the 
French, route estimee. N. W. HILL. 

35 Woburn Place, W.C.I. 


NOTES AND QUEJU1ES. 112 8. vi. 


We must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to iheir queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

In the Northam Parish Registers an entry 
records : " Prince Charles was at Apple- 
dore, July 10, 1645." After his name is 
an erasure, three inches long, where possibly 
the names of his friends or that of a ship 
had been entered. Black's Guide states he 
was at the Scilly Isles for several months in 
that year with Lords Capel and Hopton, 
and later on escaped to Jersey and France. 
Are his movements earlier in that year 
known and recorded ? A. CARRINGTON. 
Northam, N. Devon. 

VALUE OF MONEY. We are informed that 
the present value of the sovereign amounts 
only to some 60 per cent of what it was in 
1914. I am anxious to know whether any 
tables have been published shewing the 
relative value of the sovereign, or its equiva- 
lent, at various periods of English history. 
For example, what sum, according to our 
present standards, represents the amount 
of the fine of : 0,000i inflicted upon the 
fourth [Cavendish] Earl of Devonshire in 
April, 1687, for striking Col. Colepeper 
" within the verge of the court," or of the 
fine of 201. inflicted for recusancy in 1581, 
or of the 30,0001. collected as the total 
customs revenue of England for the year 
1377-78, or of the 66,0002. prescribed as the 
ransom for King Richard I. by the Treaty 
of Wurtzburg in 1193 ? 


BISHOPS OF DURHAM. I am anxious to 
know the full style and titles borne by the 
Bishops of Durham while they still enjoyed 
Palatine jurisdiction (before 1836). 

20 Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.I4. 

after 1679 styled " Sir John Morgan, 
Baronet," once styled in proceedings of 
Ecclesiastical Court " Miles," probably, 
almost certainly, identical with John Morgan 
who, born 1638, son of Rev. Gryffyth 
Morgan of Bangor, Cardigan, entered Trin. 
Coll., Dublin, 1657 ; prebendary of Tully- 
brackey, co. Limerick, 1666 ; rector of many 
parishes in Kerry ; trustee with Earl of 
Thomond to the Stoughton Estates, 1672 ; 
Chantor of Ardfest, &c., forfeited all livings 

by reason of absence, 1696-7 ; appears in 
several Chancery proceedings in Ireland, 
and frequently absent on leave abroad or 
in England. The P.R.O. Records, Ireland, 
have been pretty thoroughly searched. 

His leave of absence in 1679 dates a few 
days after the death of Sir Thomas Morgan, 
Bt., of Llangattrch, and Governor of Jerseyv 

He first appears in Kerry, 1674, and is- 
styled of Killarney, which may be Killary 
of which Edward Morgan was rector, 1664. 

(2) Edward Morgan, Archdeacon of Ard- 
fest, 1670 ; died or retired abdut 1675-6 ; 
first appears as Rector of Castleisland and 
other Kerry parishes, 1664. His son Robert 
Teas a rector in Tipperary. He probably 
was brother to the Chantor above mentioned^ 
The Kerry livings held by E. M. were in gift 
of the Herberts, who were connected with 
Llantamaw and Llangattrch Morgans in 
Wales. The descendants of these clergy- 
men have always claimed a descent from- 
Welsh baronets of the name. It is possible- 
that the Rev. John Morgan claimed the title 
of a cousin. In 1658 Richard Cromwell is. 
said to have knighted a John Morgan. 
This is possibly an error for Sir Thomas; 
Morgan who received a Cromwellian knight- 
hood for the victory of the Danes and sub- 
sequently a Caroline baronetcy. 

Claims to a descent from the Llantamaw 
baronetcy were put forward by the Morgans 
of Monastuerau, co. Kildare, in a pedigree- 
published by Geo. Blacker Morgan in 1884_ 
But no descent could be shown beyond, 
middle of the eighteenth century. 

ould this family of Kerry Morgans be 1 
anything to the Morgan-Williams who were 
ancestors of Oliver Cromwell ? There is- 
an old peasant tradition which calls them 
near friends, i.e., relatives of Cromwell. 


36 Trinity College, Dublin. 

MATHEW MYERSE entered Winchester- 
College, aged 11, from Milton, ia 1547. H 
went to Christ Church, Oxford, in 1553, and 
took the degree of B.A. in 1556. He was a 
Senior Student of Christ Church when h 
was ordained sub -deacon in London in 
December, 1557. He became rector of 
Chelsea in 1558, but was deprived in 1559 
to make room for his Edwardian, predecessor. 
He was prebendary of Highleigh in the- 
Cathedral of Chichester for some short time 
about 1561, and held other preferments itt- 
the diocese of Chichester, and in 1572 he 
became rector of Bedhampton, near Havant,. 
Hants. Further particulars about him would, 
be welcome. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.. 

12 8. VI. FEB., 1920.] 



^student of the literary decade 1820-30, 
and thereabouts, be so good as to " place " 
n article by Leigh Hunt on Shelley, 
beginning : 

"One of the coadjutors in the present work was 
<to have been Percy Shelley, a writer with whose 
.-stories of learning and knowledge and beautiful 
prose style the public have yet to become 

It would be sought naturally in The 

JLiberal, but is not there. It might be in 

The Literary Pocket Book, 1819-22 ; but no 

copy of this work is in the chief public 

libraries. L. M. M. 

60 Seymour Place, W. 

* NEW BATH GUIDE ' (Anstey, 1766). 
Has the writer of the letters contained in 
this interesting little book, or the recipients, 
ever been identified ? H. C. B. 

.any reader give me information concerning 
the pedigree and descendants of the Holmes 
family of Devonshire. Their arms, I believe, 
sare : Barry of six, argent and azure, and 
on a canton gules a chaplet of the first ; 
crest : a holly tree vert, fructed gules ; 
motto : Holme Semper Viret. 

Information is also desired as to when 
;and to whom these arms were granted. 

48 Lavender Gardens, S.W.ll. 

be glad of particulars of the origin and use 
of " Tub us " as a Christian name. It 
-occurs im the Registers of parishes in South 
Devon, and runs through the Sparke family 
for some generations. 


scrap of information given about him in 
Dr. S. Austin Allibone's ' Dictionary of 
British and American Authors,' is 'Theo- 
logical Trsati^e-;,' 1806-14. He is known to 
.have brought out small guide-books such as 
the following: 'Sketch of History of Car- 
narvon Castle, 1829,' ' Description of 
"Carnarvon and the District, 12mo, Car- 
narvon. 1845,' ' Guide to Llanberis," ' Guide 
to Beddgelest.' Other productions may 
ihave been issued by him. 

He h known to have settled in 
'Carnarvon, and, during his residence in the 
:town, built, and lived in a fine stone mansion 
locally known as " Bron Hendre," and 
bounded on one side by the extant remains 
of an old Roman wall. He also built and 
ikept a private school, familiarly known as 

Bransby's School, or as vernacularly styled 
Ysgol Bransby. 

Particulars relating to birth, his years of 
association and identity with Carnarvon, 
where he died and where buried, and any 
mentionable ana would oblige. Was he 
known or suspected to be a Unitarian ? 


Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon. 

SIMS. I should be glad to learn any 
information about the following four boys 
of this name, who were educated at West- 
minster School : 

(1) Sims, who was at school in 1733. 

(2) Henry Sims, who was admitted in 
June, 1732, aged 9. 

(3) James, who was admitted in January, 
1730/31, aged 9. 

(4) Sims Sims, who was admitted in June, 
1719, aged 13. G. F. R. B. 

DORA WILBERFOSS. There is a family 
tradition that a lady of this name was burnt 
at the stake at Beverley, and that she had 
been a nun at Nunkeeling Priory. I can 
find no confirmation of the tradition in 
Foxe's ' Book of Martyrs,' nor have I seen the 
name in connexion with either the martyr- 
doms of the Reformation or of the Marian 
persecution. Is anything known of her ? 
She was of the family of Wilberfoss of 

21 Park Crescent, Oxford. 

GOGIBUS. This surname occurs at Watten 
(Nord), in French Flanders. There are 
several families so named, but I have not 
come across it in other towns or villages in 
the district. What is its origin ? 

F. H. C. 

SWARTVAGHER. This surname occurs in 
the Pas-de-Calais. Is it Flemish ? 

F. H. C. 

What is the origin of this place-name in 
the centre of this little old Sussex town ? 

Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey. 

DREUX FAMILY. I should be glad to 
hear whether anything is known of the 
descendants of the noble French family of 
Dreux, Huguenot refugees, some of which 
family settled in Glasgow. The Comte de 
Dreux is mentioned in the royal lineage, 
kings of Scotland, in Burke' s ' Peerage,' 
wherein it is stated that in the year 1285 
King Alexander III. married Yolande, 
daughter of the Count de Dreux, d.s.p. 



A Watson appears to have married one of 
these refugees towards the end of the eigh- 
teenth century perhaps about 1790. Can 
any reader also tell me where I can find the 
pedigree of this family ? Their pedigree to 
the present day would interest me parti- 
cularly. G. D. McGBiGOB. 

LOGNE. In March, 1723, Lord Carteret, 
Secretary for the South, got hold of a sus- 
picious letter which was to have been 
conveyed to M. Gordon, banker at Boulogne, 
by Roger Garth of Hammersmith, skipper 
of the sloop Dove. Garth said he knew 
Gordon and suspected him of being a 
Jacobite agent. Does any reader know 
who this Gordon was ? I think it was 
Alexander, and that he was the son of 
William Gordon, the Jacobite banker at 
Paris, who figures so largely in the ' Stuart 
Papers.' J. M. BULLOCH. 

37 Bedford Square. W.C.I. 

MBS. GORDON, NOVELIST. Between 1844 
and 1857 a certain Mrs. Gordon published in 
London four novels, mostly about life on 
Scottish estates. They included ' The For- 
tunes of the Falconars,' ' Musgrave,' ' Kings- 
connell,' and ' Sir Gervase Grey.' One of, 
them is dedicated to " Delta " (David 
Macbeth Moir) whom she evidently knew. 
Who was she ? J. M. BULLOCH. 

37 Bedford Square, W.C.I. 

of an inscribed stone xipon this house is 



E. C. D. praefec Reg. C. P. I,. 

and I should be glad of any information as 
to the meaning of the third line. The house 
was built in 1774, and the builder, John 
Chadwick, was a magistrate and officer in 
the Militia. He was also described upon 
another stone as "Armigero" and "The- 

Can the line above have reference to any 
of his public positions ? 

Healey Hall, Rochdale. 

Scriptural phrase was adopted in the year 
1657 (as appears from an introductory 
'|To the Bookseller '), as the title of a cele- 
brated Christian manual which went through 
several editions and had a very extensive 
circulation for nearly two hundred years. 
It was translated into Welsh in 1672 by one 
John Langford, and again in 1718 by the 

famous translator, the Rev. Edward Samuel, 
But the name of the author has never been 
put on the title-page, and we in Wales are 
led to believe, by our literary historians,, 
that the name is not known. Is this so ? 
Looking through an old book list the other 
day I came across the names of these seven; 
books by " the learned and pious Author 
of 'The Whole Duty of Man' : (1) ' The 
Duty of Man'; (2) ' The Causes of Decay of 
Christian Piety'; (3) 'The Gentleman' s- 
Calling ; (4) The Lady's Calling ' ; (5) ' The 
Government of the Tongue' ; (6) 'Art of 
Contentment ' ; (7) ' The Lively Oracles- 
given to us.' This book list was issued at 
Oxford in 1730, but I find practically the- 
same list issued by Edward Pawlett^ 
" Chancery Lane, near Fleet Street," in 
1667. Besides the above, the two book 
lists referred to also have ' The Whole Duty 
of Man ' " put into significant Latin for 
the use of Schools." 

Is the name of the author of all these 
books quite unknown and to remain so ? 

CAL.' At US. ix. 309 the following is* 
stated by J. R. H. : 

" Among the stories of the Boer War which* 
appeared in 1900 in The Daily Exprr.w were two- 
not given by MB. YOUNG: With 'Number Three'" 
(four issues of the paper), ' Surgical and Medical r 
(two issues)." 

We desire for bibliographical purpose? 
to locate these more exactly. The editor 
of The Daily Express has been unable to> 
trace them, and a search at the British 
Museum has failed. If any reader can 
furnish us with dates of publication we shall 
be obliged. B. F. STEVENS & BROWN.. 

4 Trafalgar Square, W.C.2. 

R. W. Chambers and I have undertaken 
for the Scottish Text Society an edition of 
Bellenden's translation of Hector Boece's- 
' History of Scotland.' 

The manuscript which will be used as the- 
basis of this edition is the ' Auchinleck 
Manuscript,' which is now in the library of 
University College, London, and which was 
formerly in the libraries of James Boswell 
and the library of the Earl of Kinnoull. 

Six other manuscripts are known : one 
in the library of the Marquis of Bath at 
Longleat ; a second in the Advocates: 
Library, Edinburgh ; a third in the library 
of Trinity College, Cambridge ; a fourth int 

128. VI. FEB., 1920.] 



the Pierpont Morgan Library, and the others 
probably copies of the printed text, in the 
possession of Dr. George Neilson and Mr 
Brown of Glasgow. 

We are anxious to ascertain whether any 
other manuscripts of Bellenden are known 
to exist, and should be very much obligee 
if you could find room for this inquiry in 
' N. & Q.', in order that any readers who 
know of manuscripts of Bellenden may 
communicate with us at University College 

University College Hall, Baling, W. 

Creeksea, Woodham-Mortimor and Maldon) 
Can any one kindly give information 
(1) as to where the second wife of Sir Arthur 
Harris of Creeksea, Anne Salter, widow oi 
Sir Henry Bowyer, and her son Salter 
Harris, were buried. Sir Arthur was buriec 
in 1632 at Creeksea, and his eldest son Sir 
Cranmer Harris in 1674 at Woodham- 
Mortimor, and (2) what family bore the 
coat of -Argent, guttee de larmes, usually 
blazoned 3, 2, 3, but also 4, 3, 2, 1, quartered 
with that of Harris in the seventeenth 
century. H. C. FANSHAWE. 

Mr. Stokes lectured on Memory at Cam- 
bridge in 1872, and had a figure alphabet. 
Has he left any trace of his system behind 
him ? H. PELHAM BURN, Major. 

National Club. 

Gilligate, near the city of Durham, land- 
owner in West Auckland, co. Durham ; 
over whose estates there were suits in the 
Durham Chancery Court on Feb. 19, 1619, 
Apr. 6, 1619, and Dec. 2, 1620, is said to have 
entered into Religion at the Charterhouse. 
Can any reader give further details of him ? 

J. W. F. 

that there were eight clergymen present 
at the battle of Waterloo. What were 
their name-;, and what is known of them ? 

J. W. F. 

Chief Baron of the Exchequer, bore for 
arms, Sa., a fess ermine between three 
church bells arg. In the earlier editions of 
Burke' s ' Landed Gentry ' the family of 
Bell of Woolsington are shewn as possessing 
the same arms ; while from a " trick " to be 
seen in Warburton's MSS. in the Lansdown 
Collection at the British Museum, the arms 
of the Bells of Thirsk are also seen to have 

been the same in the early eighteenth; 
century. Was the above coat granted to 
a common ancestor of all three families, 
and if so which is the senior branch of the 
three ? Sir Robert himself was not the 
ancestor. LEBEL. 

HALLOWE'EN. Can any reader kindly 
give particulars, or direct to sources of 
information concerning the old superstition 
that on the night of Hallowe'en the appari- 
tions of those persons who are to die in the 
course of the year always appear in the 
churchyard of the place where they dwell ? 
(Rev.) H. CHAPMAN. 

The Vicarage, Forest Gate, E.7. 

JAMES. The Rt. Rev. William James, 
Master of University College, Oxford, 1572, 
Dean of Christ Church, 1584, Dean of 
Durham, 1596, and Bishop of Durham, 
1606-17, married as his third wife Isabel, 
widow of Robert Atkinson, Alderman of 
Newcastle. Who were the parents of Isabel? 
When was the bishop born ? 

20 Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.14. 

LIOGRAPHY WANTED. I am compiling a 
list of books in English relating to Scandi- 
navia, Iceland and Finland and should be 
glad if any of your readers would write to 
me and suggest the names of books of travel 
in these countries or of works dealing with 
their customs, folk-lore, history and litera- 
University College, Bangor. 

T. FORSTER, M.B. Can any of your 
readers refer me to further data concerning 
T. Forster, M.B., Corpus Christi Coll., Cam- 
bridge, who revised and edited The Perennial 
Calender, published London (Harding, Mavor 
& Lepard), 1824 ; and inform me who was 
" Philostratus," who wrote ' Fides Catho- 
ica,' apparently during the life-time of 
Vtalthus ? MORE ADEY. 

CHARLES PARKER is described in the- 

Concertatio Ecclesiae ' as " nobilis sacerdos, 

xul, doctor theologiae, et frater Baronis de 

Vtorleio, electus episcopus." The ' D.N.B.' 

xliii. 239) says that he was born Jan. 28 r 

.537, and was a younger brother of Henry, 

ninth Lord Morley. 

From Gough's ' Sepulchral Monuments,' 
ol. i. p. 216, it appears that Charles Parker 
de Morley in the year 1590, being the 
thirtieth year of his exile for the Catholic 
faith, put up a monument to Lionel of Ant- 
werp, Duke of Clarence, second son of King 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. FEB., 1920, 

Edward III., from whom he claimed descent, 
" in the nave of the church of St. Austin's 
monastry " at Pa via. I have been unable to 
ascertain what is the church at Pavia to 
which allusion is made. 

Gough goes on to state that " Charles 
Parker was titular bishop of Man, and retired 
hither from England in Queen Elizabeth's 
reign," but as Bishop of Sodor and Man he is 
not recognized either by Gams or by Eubel, 
and he was not an " electus episcopus " to 
this or any other English see when Queen 
Mary died. 

He became rector of Great Parndon, 
Essex, and Swanton Morley, Norfolk, in 
1558, and absented himself from the visita- 
tion of 1559, but was not succeeded in his 
livings till 1571. He was studying in Paris 
in February, 1561 ( Cal. S.P., Span. 1 Eliz., 
vol. i. p. 184), and it is possible that he took 
the degree of S.T.D. there. In 1572 he was 
living at Lou vain and in 1581 at Milan. It 
is not known when Charles Parker retired 
to " St. Austin's monastry " at Pavia, where, 
as Gough says, " he erected other monuments 
in the adjoining cloister for Francis, Prince of 
Lorraine, and for Richard de la Pole, Duke 
of Suffolk, who was killed on the French 
side at the battle of Pavia " in 1525. 

Are these monuments still extant ? 
When and where did Charles Parker die ? 

VENABLES. Peter Venables, b. circa 1649, 
m. [licence July 30, 1709] at the age of 60 
Sarah Roberts [b. 1690, d. Feb. 25, 1713]. 
He d. Aug. 7, 1720, and both were buried 
at Tewkesbury Abbey. Was Peter a son of 
Peter Venables of Kinderton who had issue 
(unnamed in the ' Visitation of Cheshire,' 
1613) by his first two wives, Mary, dau. 
of Sir Richard Wilbraham of Woodhey, Bt., 
and Frances, natural dau. of Robert Chol- 
mondeley, Earl of Leinster ? If so, by which 
wife ? Is it possible to establish the parent- 
age of Sarah Roberts ? 


Archaeological Journal, vol. xv. p. 245, there 
are three chapters on the Cistercian Order 
contributed by Mr. J. T. Micklethwaite. 
In a note at the end he says that he hopes 
before long to write two more chapters, 
viz., on the Decay of the Rule and on the 
Cistercian Buildings. Will someone tell 
me if these chapters were ever written, and 
if so, be kind enough to let me have the 
reference ? H. P. HART. 

The Vicarage, Ixworth, Bury St. Edmunds. 

In his ' Historical Portraits of the Tudor 
Period,' vol. iv. page 39, the author (S. 
Hubert Burke) quotes from the ' Letters of 
the Rev. Roger O'Shaughnessy on the 
Dominican fathers and the English Re- 
formers, printed at Brussells, 1601." 

May I ask whether any reader can say 
where a copy of these letters exists ? 


LIQUEURS. In clearing out the wine cellar 
here the other day, a number of labels were 
found at the back of a bin. They are of 
earthenware with a white glaze and the 
names, in fine bold characters, are printed 
over the glaze. They are mostly " Port," 
" Burgundy," &c., but amongst the names 
are two with which I am entirely unfamiliar. 
These are " Cockagee " and " Cypress." 
Were they wines, liqueurs, or cordials ? 

The ' N.E.D.' does not help me, nor the 
' Century Dictionary,' nor Barry's ' History 
of Wines,' 1775, nor other books on the 
subject which I have consulted. 

The house is an old one, probably built 
one hundred and twenty years ago, or even 
more. E. T. BALDWIN. 

1 Gloucester Place, W. 

trative plates after drawings by P. H. 
Wilson were executed for a book ' View of 
Ruins ; Principal Houses destroyed during 
Riots at Birmingham in 1791,' by the 
zforesaid Ellis. The rare work was an 
oblong folio volume. 

Can any knowledge be imparted about 
the engraver in question ? 

SAMUEL ROWLANDS. Particulars elicit- 
able concerning Samuel Rowlands, author 
of ' Martin Mark,' 1610, would be esteemed. 

ING. That the osprey (Pandion halicetus) 
was certainly kept by James I. with cor- 
morants and tame otters on the Thames at 
Westminster in 1618 for fishing purposes 
has been shown by MR. HABTING. It 
would be interesting to discover any further 
details of this attempt on the part of King 
James to make use of such a bird as the 
osprey, or indeed, any corroboration of 
reclaimed ospreys being successfully trained 
in England or elsewhere for sport. 

Keswick Hall, Norwich. 

12 S. VI. FEB., 1920. J 



Book' of the East India Company 
(vol. xxxvii.A, p. 167) is the following entry, 
under date Jan. 31, 1698-9 : " Ordred That 
a Bill of 21. 5s. Gd. from Sarah's Coffee-house 
for Tea and Coffee at Mercers hall .... be 

Who was Sarah, and where was her coffee- 
house ? L. M. ANSTEY. 

WORD. In a letter to Coleridge, July 6, 
1796, Lamb writes : 

' These mighty spouters-out of panegyric waters 
have. 2 of T em, scattered their fray even upon me, 
and the waters are cooling and refreshing." 

All editors of the ' Letters ' have sub- 
stituted the word " spray " for " fray," but 
that Lamb intended to write " fray " no 
one who has seen the original of the letter 
can doubt. We all know that he was fond 
of using words in their old, rather than in 
their modern, sense. Can any example be 
found in old writers of the word " fray " 
being used in the sense of " spray " ? 

The nearest I have found is in Spenser's 
' Faerie Queene,' II. xii. 45 : - 

Ye might have seen the frothy billows fry 
Under the ship as thorough them she went. 

I should much like to be able to prove that 
Lamb's writing " fray " was not a mere slip 
of the pen, as editors have hitherto taken for 
granted. (Mrs.) G. A. ANDERSON. 

The Moorlands, Woldingham, Surrey. 

CAVALIER OFFICERS. In Nicholl's ' Col- 
lectania Topographica and Genealogica ' is 
a copy of a list of " The Names of the In- 
digent Officers certifyed out of the County of 
Salop by his Majesty's Commissioners ap- 
pointed by Act of Parliament for that 
purpose." These lists were ordered by the 
Act (14 Cav. 2, c. 8) to be sent by the 
Commissioners to London for the purpose of 
having the grant made by the Act allotted 
to the various counties. So far inquiries at 
the Public Record Office have not enabled me 
to trace any more of these lists. Can any of 
your readers tell me where any of them are 
to be found ? J. B. W. 

' Hocus Pocus ' : ' A RICH GIFT.' Could 
any one tell me the date of the first edition 
of ' Hocus Pocus,' by White, and also the 
date of first edition of ' A Rich Gift ' ? The 
last work *leals in conjuring and curious 
matter. I was told by one of the gentlemen 
at the British Museum that they did not 
possess a copy of ' A Rich Gift.' This I 
find hard to believe, for I fancy there were 

several editions of it. I had one in my 
hand lately, date 1677. I have been told 
that the second edition of ' Hocus Pocus ' 
came out about 1634. 

I should be very pleased with a speedy 
answer, as the information is needed 
immediately. Please reply direct. 


37 Ponsouby Buildings, Charles Street, 
Blackfriars. S.E. 

HENRY CODDINGTON. The improver of 
the microscope, after whom the Coddington 
lens was named, married a daughter of 
Dr. Batten of Haileybury College and died 
1845. What is known of his ancestry ? 

C. B. A. 

of your readers tell me where I can find an 
account, historical or traditional, of the 
family of Finch of Winchelsey, &c., in Sussex, 
and of Sandhurst and Tenterden, &c., in 
Kent, prior to their being merged in the 
Herberds, " alias Finch," temp. Edward II., 
and where is there any detailed account of 
Old Winchelsey, destroyed 1286-7 ? 
vjd P. H. H. 


1654-1733. Can any of your readers give me 
information as to four pictures painted by 
this artist : ' The Four Elements : Earth, 
Air, Fire, and Water ' ? These pictures were 
engraved, two by Dupuis and two by 
Desplaces, and the engravings are well 
known ; but what I want to find out is 
where the original pictures now are. 

J. S. L. 

Can any of your readers furnish me with 
the popular accredited version of the follow- 
ing Latin acrostic ? 

Nitimur in vanum, dant auri pondera nomen 
We strive in vain, it is the heavy purse that counts. 
Is this near it ? - T OHN W. BROWN. 

Ty Hedd, North Road Aberystwyth. 

THE LIONS DEN. I shall be greatly obliged 
if any reader could direct me to the record 
of the late Lord Bowen's life history where 
I could see the speech he made at some 
dinner in which he referred to Daniel in the 
lions' den, and, I think, said that the 
historian was to be congratulated in the fact 
that " he was spared the necessity -of an 
after dinner speech " or some such remark. 

A. T. 

NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. FEB., 1020. 


(12 S. vi. 290.) 

THE autograph in Chaucer's Works, now in 
the possession of SIR HERBERT MAXWELL is 
most likely that of Henry Washington who 
married on Oct. 7, 1689, Eleanor Harrison 
of South Cave, Yorks. By this marriage 
Henry Washington ultimately became lord 
of the manor of South Cave and he had 
four daughters and two sons. Susanna was 
born at South Cave in 1694 and died the 
same year ; Elizabeth was baptised at the 
same place in 1696 ; Anne married John 
Idell, who obtained the manor of South 
Cave in 1719 ; the elder son, Richard 
Washington, was in 1710 living in London. 
His son William and his daughter Mary are 
only mentioned in his will. According to 
some Chancery Proceedings at the Public 
Record Office' (Whittington, Easter, 1700, 
No. 254) Henry Washington was nephew 
to Katharine, wife of John Arthur of 
Doncaster, gent. : he was her half-sister's 
son. He occurs^again in other Chancery 
proceedings (Whittington, Michaelmas and 
Hil., 1707, No. 305), where he is described 
,as of Lincoln's Inn, gent. He was then 
acting on behalf of Elizabeth Gellott, who 
before her marriage with Stephen Gellott 
was Elizabeth Washington, one of the four 
daughters of Col. Henry Washington, the 
gallant defender of Worcester in the Civil 

Henry Washington's will (Tenison 248), 
dated Oct. 6, 1717, mentions his wife 
Eleanor, his manor of South Cave, his three 
younger children Anne, William and Mary, 
his trusty friend George Washington of 
Covent Garden, apothecary, his house in 
Cookham. Berks. The will was proved by 
Eleanor Washington, widow, on Dec. 15, 

f'Her burial entry " Mrs. Elienora Washing- 
ton, widow," occurs on June 9, 1735, in the 
parish church register of Redgrave, co. 

SIR HERBERT MAXWELL, if he likes, can 
have a copy of Henry Washington's pedi- 
gree connecting him with the Flemings of 
Rydal and the Earl of Lonsdale. 

' rn r T. PAPE. 

Orme Boys' School, Newcastle, Staffs. 


(12 S. ii. 3, 43. 75, 84, 122, 129, 151, 163, 191, 
204, 229, 243, 272, 282, 311, 324, 353, 364, 
391, 402, 431, 443, 473, 482, 512, 524 ; 
iii. 11, 46, 71, 103, 132, 190, 217, 234, 267, 

3rd Foot Guards (12 S. ii. 165, 231; v. 270; 
vi. 17.) 

Daniel Jones, app. captain-lieutenant and 
lieutenant-colonel, Nov. 7, 1759 ; captain 
and lieutenant-colonel, Sept. 1, 1760 ; second 
major, Nov. 3, 1769 ; first major (and brevet- 
colonel), April 18, 1770 ; lieutenant-colonel 
of the regiment, Feb. 22, 1775, till 1777 ; 
major-general, Aug. 29, 1777 ; lieutenant- 
general, Feb. 19, 1779 ; colonel 2nd Foot, 
Aug. 7, 1777, till he d. Nov. 18, 1793. 

Edward A' Court, brother to, William 
(12 S. ii. 165), and 4th son of Pierce A'Court, 
M.P., was a captain in De Grangue's (new) 
60th Foot, Jan. 27, 1741, till he d. in Ireland, 
December, 1745. 

William Lindsay, lieutenant and captain 
in the regiment, March, 1744, d. Nov. 1745. 
Hon. John Maitland, lieutenant and 
captain, September, 1743 : wounded at 
Fontenoy ; third and youngest son of 5th 
Earl of Lauderdale ; was the Capt. John 
Maitland who was a Gentleman Usher, 
Quarterly Waiter (100?.), to the Princess of 
Wales, 1736, till 1753 or 1754. He was 
the John Maitland appointed captain of 
the Independent Company of Invalids doing 
duty at Landguard Fort, December, 1753, 
till Nov. 8, 1756. 

James Leslie d. March, 1745. 
Montagu Blomer, lieutenant and captain, 
January, 1744 ; captain-lieutenant and 
lieutenant-colonel, Aug. 27, 1753 ; captain 
and lieutenant-colonel, Dec. 24, 1755 ; left 
1765; brevet - colonel, Feb. 19, 1762; d. 
September or October, 1772. Presumably 
the Montagu Blomer who matriculated from 
Christ Church, Oxford, May 26, 1726, aged 
17, as " son of Ralph Blomer of Canterbury, 
doctor." His kinsman Dr. Thomas Blomer 
d. Jan. 29, 1764, aged 85, Vicar of Lavington, 
and for thirty years Chaplain to George II. 
(Gent. Mag.). 

Richard Lyttelton of Little Ealing, Middle- 
sex, fifth but third surviving son of Sir 
Thomas Lyttelton, 4th Bart., M.P., of 
Frankley, co. Worcester, was* a Page of 
Honour to Queen Caroline in 1734 till 1737 ; 
captain in Jeffreys' s 10th Marines, Jan. 27, 
1741 ; brevet -lieutenant-colonel April 11, 
1744; a deputy quartermaster-general in 1742 

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1744, on half-pay till major-general, 
Feb. 3, 1757 ; lieutenant-general, April 5, 
1759 ; brevet-colonel (as deputy adjutant- 
general), April 16, 1747. M. Dec. 23, 1745, 
Lady Rachel (Russell), daughter of 2nd 
Duke of Bedford, widow of 1st Duke of 
Bridgwater ; was M.P. Brackley, 1747 to 
1154; Poole, 1754 to 1761 ; K.B., August, 
1753 ; Master of the Jewel Office, December, 
1756, to 1762 ; Governor of Minorca, Decem- 
ber, 1762 ; of Guernsey, March, 1766, till he 
d., s.p., Oct. 1, 1770. Horace Walpole 
described him and his wife as " the best- 
humcured people in the world." 

John Whitwell, first son of William Whit- 
well of Oundle, Northants, b. there March 13, 
1719 ; lieutenant and captain Coldstream 
'Guardsi March 17, 1744 ; captain and 
ueutenant-colonel 3rd Foot Guards (as 
J. Griffin. Whitwell), Feb. 18, 1747 ; first 
major thereof, May 2, 1758, to 1759 ; A.D.C. 
to the King (and brevet-coloneij, May 29, 
1756 ; adjutant-general, April, 1778, to 
1780 ; colonel 50th Foot, Oct. 23, 1759 : 
-of 33rd Foot, May 5, 1760 ; of 1st Horse 
Grenadier Guards, March 21, 1766, till he 
d., s.p., at Audley End, May 25, 1797, aged 
78 ; major-general, June 25, 1759 ; lieutenant- 
general, Jan. 19, 1761 ; general, April 2, 
1778 ; Field -Marshal, July 30, 1796. Took 
"by Act of Parliament, 1749, the surname and 
-arms of Griffin on receiving from his aunt, 
Elizabeth, Countess of Portsmouth, her share 
in. the Saffron Walden estate, and succeeded 
at her death, July, 1762, to Audley End 
House ; was created K.B., March (and 
installed by proxy, May 26), 1761 ; better 
known as Sir John Griffin Griffin. He was 
M.P. Andover, November, 1749, till 1784 ; 
summoned to the House of Lords as Lord 
Howard de Walden, Oct. 3, 1784 ; created 
Lord Braybrooke, Sept. 5, 1788 ; Recorder 
-of Saffron Walden in 1775 ; Lord Lieutenant, 
Custos Rotulorum, and Vice- Admiral of 
Essex, all till death. 

Hon. John Barrington, A.D.C. to the 
King (and brevet-colonel), May 25, 1756 ; 
served several campaigns in Flanders, and 
took Guadeloupe, 1758 ; general and Com- 
mander- in-Chief in the West Indies, May 12, 
1759 ; colonel 8th Foot, Oct. 24, 1759, till he 
d. at Paris, April 2, 1764 ; major-general, 
June 25, 1759 ; Lieut enant-Governor of 
Berwick (182Z. 10s.) in 1761. Third son of 
1st Viscount Barrington ; m. Elizabeth, 
daughter of Florentius Vassal. 

John Prideaux, captain and lieutenant- 
colonel, Feb. 24, 1748 ; second major thereof, 
.May 2, 1758 ; colonel 55th Foot, Oct. 28, 
1768, till he was accidentally " killed by the 

bursting of a cohorn," July 20, 1759, while 
in command of the forces in the trenches 
before Fort Niagara ; local brigadier-general 
in North America, Oct. 28, 1758. Second 
son of Sir John Prideaux, 6th Bart., of 
Netherton, Devon wrongly said in Burke's 
' Peerage and Baronetage ' to have been 
" a colonel in the 55th Regiment," which des- 
cription, of course, applied to his son, of 
whom Burke proceeds to say : 

" This gallant officer, the friend and companion 
in arms of Wolfe and Amherst, was one of the 
three young generals selected by the Earl of 
Chatham to restore the credit of the British 
arms, which had suffered by a series of reverses 
in North America. He led the forces under his 
command with uninterrupted success to Niagara, 
where he lost his life through the awkwardness 
of an artilleryman while besieging that fortress 
in 1759." 

He m. Elizabeth, daughter of Col. Rolt,and 
sister of Sir Edward Baynton Rolt, Bart., of 
Spye Park, and d. v.p. His eldest son John 
Wilmot succeeded his grandfather as 7th 
Bart., 1766. W. R. WILLIAMS. 

v. 95, 333). The court martial referred to 
by W. B. H. at the last reference arose out 
of a " ragging " case that took place in the 
46th Regiment. This regiment, the old 
South Devonshire, was quartered at Windsor 
in the summer of 1854, and some of the 
junior officers appear to have taken a dislike 
to one of the subalterns, Lieut. Perry (not 
Parry), and evidently determined to make 
the regiment " too hot for him." They 
seem, however, to have carried things too 
far, with the result that the matter was 
inquired into by a court martial. The 
proceedings before this tribunal, and the 
finding of the court, gave rise to a good deal 
of comment, public opinion as not unusual 
being expressed in the pages of Punch. In 
the issue for Aug. 12, 1854, a set of verses 
appeared, entitled ' A Court Martial for me,' 
the tone of which can be gathered from the 
two concluding lines : 

A court martial the rarest of courts in my eyes is ; 
No such other we've had since JUDGE JEFFERIES 


the refrain being : 

Sing, over the left, boys, and like a whale, very. 
And " Where are your witnesses," eh, MR. PERRY ? 
In the next number (Aug. 19, 1854) there 
is an article professing to give extracts from 
' The Officer's Own Book ' : 

1. Drawing the Badger. 

2. Sing a song of sixpence or the Forty-Sixth 

3. Bolstering. 


[128. VJ. FEB., 1920. 

with descriptions of these " Military Sports 
and Pastimes." This is illustrated by a 
woodcut depicting little pigs, dressed up, 
playing in school. The severest comment 
however is the cartoon (full-page), " Selling 
Out," in the same number. This represents 
a young officer in uniform, with "46" on his 
shoulder-belt, saying to a regular Bill Sykes I 
of a coster monger : " My good fellow, I think 
I shall sell out. Will you buy my com- 
mission ? Have it a bargain." To which 
the coster replies : " Why, thank' ee, obliged 
for the offer ; but the fact is, all my life 
I've been 'customed to the society of 

One result of the inquiry was that the 
46th were delayed sailing for the Crimea, 
the regiment (with the exception of two 
companies) arriving too late to take part 
in the earlier operations of the campaign, 
including the battles of the Alma and 
Inkerman. T. F. D. 

"Now THEN!" (12 S. v. 295). The 
" N.E.D." gives the following references : 

c. 1000. Ags. Ps. (Thorpe), xxxiii. 8. 

c. 1485. Digby Myst. (1882), iii. 1970 : 
Now thanne, yower puer blyssyng gravnt us tylle. 

c. 1500. Melusine, 238 : 
Now thenne, noble cousyne, seace your wepyng- 


The ' N.E.D.' describing this as frequent 
in modern use begins with a quotation from 
the Anglo-Saxon Psalter (c. 1000), the next 
instance given being from the ' Digby 
Mysteries ' (c. 1485). One is reminded of 
the governess who taught Latin conversa- 
tionally and was heard to exhort her pupils 
with "Nunc tune ! " EDWARD BENSLY. 

[MR. A. R. BAYLEY and MB. N. W. HILL also 
thanked for replies.] 

LEWKNOR FAMILY (12 S. v. 201). Pro- 
bably George Lewkner the Winchester 
scholar took the degree of M.D. at Padua, 
for he went there in the company of Fr. 
Robert Persons, S.J., in 1574, and afterwards 
became M.D. The Winchester Scholar and 
New College Fellow Luke Atslowe (brother to 
Edward Atslowe, M.D., as to whom see the 
' D.N.B.') also went in their company to 
Padua, where he died in the following V ear 
(see Cath. Rec. Soc., ii. 23). 

John Lewkenor was rector of Broadwater 
from 1521 to 1541. 

One Nicholas Lewkenor, who may have 
been the Winchester Scholar of 1529, became 
rector of Rusper in 1560 and vicar of West- 
ham in 1574, being succeeded at Westham 
in 1585/6 and at Rusper in 1590. 

There was a Thomas Lewkenor who was 
Vicar of Hamsey from 1563 to 1568/9, 
Probably this was the person of this nam 
who matriculated from Trinity College,. 
Cambridge, in 1557/8, and took the degree of 
B.A. in 1562/3. 


ST. BETHOTHE EN COPLAND (12 S. v. 281).. 
Under this designation seems to be 
concealed the name of the saint who has- 
given her name to the westernmost nead- 
land of Cumberland (St. Bees Head), to the 
little village which nestles at its foot (Kirkby 
Beacock or St. Bees) and to the 'eading 
public school in Cumberland. The name 
Begogh or Begoth is said by Dentcn to be 
Irish and to mean, little, young. The form 
Bega is the most common, and has prevailed 
at least from the date of the foundation of 
the priory early in the twelfth century.. 
Copland or Coupland is the great barony 
also called the barony of Egremont which 
extends from the Derwent to the Duddon 
along the Cumberland coast. 

Queen's College, Oxford. 

v. 209). This personal name is most likely 
derived from the surname Yard, or Yarde 
(from M.E. yerd, an enclosure), the terminal 
t/j being diminutive, as in Hickey. Bardsley 
traces the Yards back to the reign of 
Henry III., but the examples he quotes occur 
in parishes in the south of England. 

N. W. HILL. 

The following works should be found useful : 
Henry Benjamin Wheatley, ' The Dedica- 
tions of Books,' cr. 8vo, 1887. Rudolf 
Graefenhain, ' De more libros dedicandi 
apud scriptores Graecos et Romanos obvio,' 
8vo, 1892. H. G. HARRISON. 

(12 S. iv. 330 ; v. 107, 161, 273). At the 
penultimate reference I stated that the 
succession of Irish bishops was very un- 
certain, and the See of Dromore seems to- 
furnish another instance of a disputed 
bishop, besides William who is stated to 
occur in 1491. This was John who as John 
Dromorens, Bishop (translated as John 
Bishop of Dromore) was Rector of St. Mary 
Somerset, London, from some time after 
1415 to his death between April and June, 
1433, He was also Rector of Stisted in. 

12 S. VI. FEB., 1920.] 



E<s3x, but at present I cannot furnish the 
correct dates. His will, dated April 1, 1433, 
and proved June 12, 1433, is at Lambeth, 
and in it he desires burial in the Church of 
.'St. Mary, Somerset, where he was Rector. 
Brady in his ' Episcopal Succession ' says 
that there was no John Bishop of Dromore 
*t this time. Is any reader aware of any 
Up-to-date published work, or MSS. which 
deals with these matters ? or the name of any 
liting person who is an authority on such ? 
It is quite possible that Dromorens may be 
a foreign bishopric. If so, where is it ? 

Consett, co. Durham. 

OF SWANSEA (12 S. v. 322). This 
lady was Ann Kemble (Mrs. Curtis), a sister 
of Mrg. Siddons. A brief and unpleasing 
account of her is given in the ' Diet. Nat. 
Biog.' in the article on Mrs. Siddons. 
Further details may be found on p. 193 of 
* Mrs. Siddons ' (" Eminent Women Series ") 
by Mrs. Arthur Kennard. C. S. C. 

Mrs. Anne Hatton wrote about a dozen 
novels between 1810 and 1831, under the 
name of Anne of Swansea. She was the 
sister of Kemble the actor and of Mrs. 
Siddons. C. B. WHEELER. 

Percy Fitzgerald's ' The Kembles ' devotes 
several pages to her. 


TEER (12 S. v. 294, 329). This rubbish has 
been attributed to William Rufns Chetwood 
(fl. 1766) and to Benjamin Victor (fl. 1778), 
the first a dramatist and prompter, the other 
an ex-barber and poet laureate for Ireland. 
Chetwood seems to be the more popular 
claimant. The lives of both in the 'D.N.B.' 
are sufficiently depressing. See Lowndes' 
' Bibliographer's Manual of English Litera- 
ture ' and Halkett and Laing's ' Dictionary 
of Anonymous and Pseudonymous Literature 
of Great Britain.' Lowndes, who has been 
followed by the late Mr. Joseph Knight, gives 
1728 as the date of the first edition. It 
should be 1726 : there is a copy of it in the 
British Museum. The one claim to notice 
-of ' The Voyages and Adventures of Captain 
Robert Boyle ' is that the book is mentioned 
in the Essays of Elia. 

" We had classics of our own, without being 
beholden to ' insolent Greece or haughty Rome,' 
that passed current among us ' Peter Wilkins,' 
' The Adventures of the Hon. Capt. Robert Boyle,' 
The Fortunate Blue-coat Boy,' and the like." 
-* Christ's Hospital Five-and-Thirty Years Ago.' 

Can there have been a confusion be- 
tween this passage and the ' Father of 
Chemistry and uncle to the Earl of Cork ' ? 
Mr. E. V. Lucas, in his edition of the Works 
of Charles and Mary Lamb, justly charac- 
terises the book as "a blend of unconvincing 
travel and some rather free narrative : a 
piece of sheer hackwork to meet a certain 
market." EDWARD BENSLY. 

The authorship of the ' Adventures ' of . 
the above was dealt with at 10 S. xii, 417, 
and 11 S. i, 73, with references to earlier 
volumes of ' N. & Q.' W. B. H. 

Allebone, in his ' Dictionary of Authors," 
states, " This fictitious narrative was written 
by Benjamin Victor." 

However, some years ago I ran across an 
item which states that the author was 
R. Chetwood, which was so conclusive 
that I so entered it in the catalogue of my 

I cannot recall at this date the full parti- 
culars which led to the above entry. 



CISTERCIAN ORDER (12 S. v. 320). May 
I call the attention of the REV. H. P. HART 
to the following work, if he is not already 
acquainted with it, viz., ' Contributions to a 
History of the Cistercian Houses of Devon,' 
by J. Brooking Rowe, F.S.A., &c. It 
consists of 198 quarto pages and was printed 
by Brendon & Son in 1878. 

I saw a copy recently in the window of a 
secondhand bookseller. W. S. B. H. 

NORTH OF ENGLAND (12 S. v. 317). 
If there is any part of this country which 
may be technically described as the North 
of England, it is probably that portion 
which lies within the jurisdiction of the 
Norroy King-of-Arms. His territory is the 
area lying north of the Trent. A. T. W. 

(12 S. vi. 14). Where a window of this 
kind exists it is generally to be found 
in the lower part of one of the side walls of a 
chancel. The lower half, or the whole of it 
being usually closed with a shutter. Its 
ritualistic or other use is still uncertain. 
A good deal has been written about the 
subject of these windows during the last 
fifty years. The chief theories concerning 
these windows are these : (a) They may be 
leper's windows, but this is highly unlikely. 
The idea that English mediaeval lepers were 
communicated through them, or through 
them watched the priest celebrate Mass, 



seems to be untenable for the following 
reasons : (1) No one from outside could as a 
rule see the altar through these wall openings 
much less receive the Sacrament through 
them. Three or four examples have been 
found of undoubted " low side windows " in 
upper chapels. (2) Windows such as these 
are often to be found in churches which were 
quite near to old Lazar hospitals with their 
own chapel and priest for the special use 
of the lepers. (3) The ninth canon of Pope 
Alexander III. specialty enacts that as 
lepers cannot use the churches or church 
yards commonly resorted to, they shall 
gather together in certain places and" have a 
church and burial place of their own with a 
priest to minister to their wants. 

(6) A lamp may have been lit within to 
scare away ghosts or evil spirits. This is, 
however, improbable. 

(c) Confessions may have been heard 
through them of persons not allowed to enter 
the church. This idea also seems to be 

(d) A sanctus bell may have been rung 
therefprm at the time of Mass to inform 
those in the vicinity of the Elevation of the 
Host. This theory would appear to have 
most evidence to support it. For illustrated 
articles on this subject see The Antiquary, 
vols- xxi. and xxii. ; J. J. Cole in Journal of 
the Arch. Institute, March, 1848 ; P. M. 
Johnston in Trans, of St. Paul's Eccles. Soc., 
vol. iv. 263 ; J. H. Parker in the Arch. Journal 
vol. iv., December, 1847 ; J. Piggott in The 
Reliquary, vol. ix. 9, 1868 ; and J. P. 
Hodgson in Archaeologia Aeliana for 1901. 

Aysgarth, Sevenoaks. H " G " HARBISON. 

About a dozen explanations have been 
suggested. The most probable one is that 
they were for ringing the sacring bell so that 
it might be heard by persons outside the 
church. They are found in chapels to which 
a cemetery has never been attached, and 
which are also on an upper floor. The com- 
paratively late sanctus bell - cot appears to 
have superseded the earlier low side window 
arrangement where both are found in the 
same church. They are visually found in 
earlier work than bell-cots are. There is 
reason to think that they were sometimes 
utilized in the sixteenth century for hearing 
the confessions of all comers. There was an 
order for the walling up of places where friars 
heard such confessions, and before the days 
of "Restoration" low side - windows were 
very commonly in a walled-up condition. See 
' Handbook of English Ecclesiology,' 1847, 
201 ; 'N. & Q.,' 4 S. i. 415, 488 ; The Reliquary, 

July, 1868 ; Rock, ' Church of Our Fathers,' 
vol. iii., p. 1 ; Proc. Soc. Ant., Dec. 23, 1869 ;; 
many other ecclesiological works and com- 
munications might be consulted. 

J. k T. F. 

F. W. will find an interesting article on 
' Low Side Windows,' more particularly in. 
Sussex churches, in voL xli.. of The Sussev. 
Archaeological Collections, L898. 

[REV. J. HARVEY BLOOM also thanked for reply.]' 

PRICE (12 S. v. 292, 331). Mark Noble, in- 
' Memoirs of the Protectoral House of Crom- 
well,' 1787, gives, in vol. i., p. 127, the- 
following particulars about Ensign Oliver 
Cromwell, a great grandson of the Protector. 
He was the son of Henry Cromwell, 1658 
1711, and a grandson of Henry Cromwell,. 
1627-1673, Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland. 8th 
child. Oliver, born at Gray's Inn, London,, 
Sept. 23, 1704. 

He, like his father, served in the British 
Army, and was an ensign in an Irish regi- 
ment, but, disliking his situation, he resigned 
his commission and spent the remainder of 
his life in privacy and retirement. He died 
Aug. 4, 1748, unmarried. 

Clutterbuck, in his ' History of Herts * 
(vol. ii., p. 98) states further that this same- 
Oliver Cromwell was buried at Bunhill Fields.. 

In the Cromwell room in the London 
Museum, in Sir Richard Tangye's collection,. 
is a genealogical tree of the Cromwell family,, 
the latter part of which (1602-1791) is the- 
work of Rev. Mark Noble. 

I find no mention of Cromwell Price, and 
presume that he was not a lineal descendant, 
of the Protector. O. KING SMITH. 

v. 268, 330). There seems to have been two- 
branches of the Dehany family at one time 
settled in the West Indies. The one referred 
to by your correspondent was probably the 
head of the family. The other held property 
in Barbadoes, and of this branch Philip 
Salter Dehany came to this country, and 1 
after living sometime in Herts, purchased 
Hayes Place, Kent, where the first Earl of 
Chatham had lived and died. Philip Dehany 
had an only daughter Mary Salter, who was 
to have married the eleventh Et;rl of Caith- 
ness. He died suddenly on the eve of his 
marriage. Miss Dehany never married, but 
adopted a daughter of Lady Janet Sinclair 
(Traill), niece af her intended husband, to 
whom she bequeathed Hayes Plr.ce and the 
West Indian property. Hayes Place had. 

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been sold, with all its contents, in 1785 to Sir 
James Bond, who in turn sold it in 1787 t< 
Lord Lincoln, and by him to Mr. Dehany 
the pictures, furniture, china, &c., having 
remained as sold after the death of Chatham 
After remaining in the Traill family for 
many years, it was sold to Mr. (Baron 
Everard Hambro, the present owner. 

L. G. R. 


v. 317). The reference in " T. Wats. Am. 
Quer. 7 " is to Thomas Watson's 'Amyntas 
(1585) which is divided into eleven " Quere- 
lae." See W. W. Greg's ' Pastoral Poetry,' 
p. Ill G. C. MOORE SMITH. 


' Amyntas ' is described by Sir Sidney 
Lee in the ' D.N.B.' as " a distant para- 
phrase " of Tasso's ' Aminta.' 


CAPT. 3. C. GRANT-DUFF (12 S. vi. 13). 
A good account of Grant-Duff is given in 
the Taylers' 'Book of the Duffs,' 1914 
(p. 495), with a clear genealogical table of 
his mother's family and of his own descen- 
dants (p. 496). On the maternal side he was 
descended from the Duffs of Braco. One of 
Grant-Duff's grandsons is Sir Evelyn Grant- 
Duff, Framlingham, and his granddaughter 
is Mrs. Huth Jackson, 64 Rutland Gate. 

37 Bedford Square, W.C.I. 

FRIDAY (12 S. vi. 15). The yards of a ship 
are said to be " a' -cock-bill " when they are 
placed at an angle to the deck, which is done 
as a symbol of mourning. See the ' N.E.D.,' 
sub voce. A quotation from Dana's ' Two 
Years before the Mast ' is there given, as 
follows : " On Good Friday she had all her 
yards a-cock-bill, which is customary among 
Catholic vessels." This, no doubt, is the 
American sea story of Californian ports 
eighty years ago referred to by MR. LUCAS. 

T. F. D. 

Ships used to cock-bill their yards as a 
sign of mourning, which is why it would 
have been done on Good Friday. In my 
own experience I have never seen or heard of 
it being done for this reason, the commonest 
method nowadays being to paint a blue 
streak on a ship's sides. Yards are often 
cock-billed in order to clear cranes or 
elevators when going alongside a wharf. It 
is done by slacking away the lifts on one side 
and hauling down on the other, which brings 
the" yards from a horizontal position to one 

nearly vertical. As a sign of mourning I 
cannot say when the custom originated or 
if it is still done. 

Royal Societies Club. 
[REV. H. F. B. COMPSTON* also thanked for reply.] 

(12 S. v. 317). About a century ago, more 
or less (I have no means of reference at hand), 
appeared a ' Directory of Birmingham,' 
demy octavo, engraved throughout on 
copperplate (so far as the advertisements 
went) consisting of trade cards, and an 
exceedingly interesting and attractive bit 
of Warwickshire work it was. No doubt 
a copy exists in the Birmingham Central 
Reference Library. 

About the same period, or a little later 
White & Co. issued a number of county- 
directories, thick octavo in size, and these 
had many advertisements at the end, 
neatly engraved on copper or steel. In the- 
early part of the nineteenth century, it was 
a common practice for tradesmen to have 
their letter-headings and invoices engraved, 
often with a view of their premises at the 
top, and this custom still survives with old- 
established firms. It extends overseas, for 
as I write, two samples are before me, of 
old-fashioned letter headings : (1) Montreal 
Cottons, Ltd., of Valleyfield, Canada; 
2) Collins Inlet Lumber Co. of Toronto. 

A good example of the copperplate 
style of 1800, or earlier, is seen in the letter-- 
lead of the Standard Bank of South Africa 
of 10 Clements Lane, Lombard Street, 
showing a circular engraving of Britannia, . 
nolding an unfurled royal standard, on the 
ieashore and gazing at shipping on the; 
lorizon. W. JAGGARD, Cap*. 

WILLIAM HOORDE (12 S. v. 179, 241). la 
there anything to connect our William 
Hoorde wth the following Berkshire recusants 
of 1592-3 ? " Willelmas Hourde ruper d 
Buckleburie gen." ; " Johannes Hourde d 
Letcombe Regis " ; " Maria Hourde uxor 
Willelmi Hourde." (See Cath. Rec. Soo.,, 
xviii. 12). JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT. 

BIRD -SCARING SONGS (12 S. v. 98, 132* 
160, 246). The following is a bird boy's song, 
from the county of Durham : 

Shoo, birds, shoo ! 

Fly away from here, 

Leave the com and wheat alone ;- 

Or if you stop and take a feed, 

Take no more than what you need, 

For you must not waste a stone, 

Or my master I will fear. 

Shoo, birds, shoo ! 



NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 B. vi FEB., 1920. 

' IN FLANDEBS' FIELDS ' (12 S. v. 317). 
The poem ' In Flanders' Fields,' by the late 
Lieut. -Col. John McCrae, appeared in The 
Book Monthly for July, 1919. The poem 
entitles a volume of verse by Lieut. -Col. 
McCrae, published by Hodder & Stoughton, 

After the battle of Ypres, Lieut. -Col. 
John McCrae contributed this poem to 
Punch. It is also quoted in an obituary 
notice of this officer which appeared in The 
.Times of Feb. 4, 1918. 


295, 332). In " The Muses Threnodie ; or, 
Mournful Mournings on the Death of Mr. 
Gall. . . .by Mr. H. Adamson " ; Edinburgh, 
1638, this line, relating to the town of 
Perth, occurs : 
Prom whence our Castle-gavil as yet is named. 

A footnote in a "new Edition," published 
; at Perth in 1774 (vol. i., 89) says: "The 
street.... is erroneously called the Castle- 
gavel, instead of the Castle-street." Nuttall's 
Standard Dictionary gives "a provincial 
word for ground, 1 ' as one meaning of the 
word 'gavel" W. B. H. 

v. 210, 273). A story somewhat of this 
sort is given in a Japanese encyclopaedia 
thus : 

" A man found a Swallow nest with all the brood 
in it dead without any assignable cause. On strict 
examination, however, he discovered every fledge- 
ling had its mouth crammed with the beard of 
wheat and pine needles. In fact their real mother 
had been dead and they were stifled to death by 
their step-mother bird. Such is said to be a not 
unf refiuent occurence." Terashima, ' Wakan Sansai 
.Dzue,' 1713, torn. xlii. 

A Chinese work, ' Suh-poh-wuh-chi ' 
(eleventh century) states that the sparrow 
seizes the swallow's nest by thrusting the 
mugwort therein, which is very obnoxious 
to the latter bird. The Japanese say 
perilla instead of mugwort. 

Tanabe, Kii, Japan. 

HOMELAND, ST. ALBANS (12 S. v. 294). 
See 10 S. vi. 432 ; vii. 58. Quite recently I 
received from the Rev. G. H. Johnson a copy 
of his pamphlet ' The Church of Waltham 
Holy Cross,' in which Prof. Skeat's deriva- 
tion of Romeland, from A.S. rum, empty, 
vacant, applied here to land where wagons 
coming to the town or abbey could have 
their horses unharnessed,' is noted on p. 29. 
I had previously pointed out <<=> the curator, 

Miss Hawthorn, that the statement in the 
earlier guidebook that the name arose, as 
in the case of romescot (see 'N.E.D.'), or 
Peter's Pence, from the rent formerly being 
paid to the Pope, was open to question. 
She now writes me that the older inhabitants 
of Waltham. are wont to pronounce the name 
" roomland," thus confirming the Anglo- 
Saxon derivation. 

Besides the one at St. Albans there is, 
it appears, also a Homeland at Norwich, and 
another in the city parish of St. Mary-at-Hill, 
at a spot where Abbot Walter de Gant of 
Waltham built himself a town house 
(Zoc. cit., p. 54). 

Since writing the above I have come across 
the following further particulars in Harben's 
' Dictionary of London ' (1918), s.v. ' Rome- 
lands ' : 

"There seem to have been several of these open 
spaces in different parts of the City in early days, 
as, for instance in Tower Ward, in Billingsgate 
Ward, in Dowgate Ward, in Queenhithe Ward. 

Wheatley says that in part of the larger monastic 
establishments, as at St. Albans, Bury St. Edmunds 
<fcc. there were large open spaces railed oft', u?ed at 
any rate at Waltham as a market place, and he 
suggests that they may have been generally so used 
in early times. 

It is interesting to note that in a decree of Chan- 
cery 37 H. viii., confirming to the citizens the 
possession of the Romeland at Billingsgate, it is 
expressly suited that markets had been held time 
out of mind on both the Homelands at Billingsgate 
and at Queenhithe. 

Dr. Sharpe says that it was a name given to an 
open space near a dock where ships could discharge 
(Gal. i Bk F. p. 175, note)." 

Probably the name was given first to the 
land of the abbey, and then extended to 
ground lying on the bank of the Thames. 

N. W. HILL. 

WRIOHT also thanked for replies.] 

MEDIEVAL IMMUBEMENT (12 S. v. 320). - 
There is a discussion of this in Grant Allen's 
' Evolution of the Idea of God.' 


THE LOG HOUSE (12 S. v. 320). In 1541 
Robert Bowes and Sir Ralph Ellerker drew 
up an official ' View of the Castles, Towers, 
Barmekyns, and Fortresses of the Frontier 
of the East and Middle Marches ' (Cotton 
MS. Calig. B, vii. fo. 636 (n.p.) printed by 
Cadwallader Bates in ' The Border Holds of 
Northumberland,' p. 28, et seq.). Concern- 
ing Tynedale they report : 

''And yet suerly the bedesmen of them have 
very stronge houses whereof for the most parte the 
utter sydes or walles be made of greatte sware oke 
trees strongly h.unde & Joyned together with great 
tenons of the same so thycke mortressed that y* 
' wyl be very harde withoute greatt force & laboure 

12 S. VI. FEB., 1920.] 


to breake or caste downe any of the said houses 
the tymber as well of the said walles as rooffes be 
PO greatt & covered most parte with turves & 
earthee that they wyll not easyly bume or he sett 
on fyere/' 

In the ' View ' it is frequently noted that 
a house or a tower is of stone, which seems 
to imply that there were others of wood. 


Home House, Kell's Lane, Low Fell, Gateshead. 

(12 S. v. 320). According to Jakeman and 
Carver's ' Directory and Gazetteer of Here- 
fordshire,' 1890, Longworth, the property 
of Wm. Hy. Barneby, Esq., J.P., D.L., is 
situated about one mile south of Lugwardine 
parish and four miles east of the City of 
Hereford. The mansion was for several 
centuries the seat of the ancient family of 
the Walwyns, who derived their name from 
Gwallain or Wallwain Castle in Pembroke- 
shire. Sir Peter Gwallain was engaged in the 
conquest of Brecknockshire, with the army 
of William Rufus ; The grounds display 
some fine timber, and the scenery is pleasant. 

204 Hermon Hill, Sth. Woodford. 

I cannot find this Castle, but there is a 
country seat named Longworth House 
3 miles east of Hereford, and 2 miles from 
Sufton, on the opposite side of the river 
Frome. Britton and Brayley gives a short 
account of the family of Walwyn who 
occupied the mansion for some centuries. 

BOYER FAMILY (12 S. v. 294). J. H. R. 
appears to be mistaken in stating that the 
son of Peter Boyer bf St. Giles and father 
of the Rev. James Boyer (Upper Master of 
Christ's Hospital in Lamb's time, and my 
great-grandfather) was named Abraham. 
That he bore the same name as his father 
Peter is shown by the extracts from the 
Minute Book of the Cooper's Company, 
which I give below : 

May 3, 1715. Peter Boyer, son of Peter Boyer, 
a Frenchman, naturalized, of St. Giles-iri-the- 
Fields in the County of Middlesex, distiller, ap- 
prenticed to Rich 11 Parker, a cooper. 

June 5, 1722. Peter Bover, upon Testimony of 
Rich' 1 Parker, admitted a Freeman by servitude 
Lawrence Pountney Lane. 

April 23. 1782. James Boyer, upon a view of his 
Father's copy is admitted a Freeman by Patri- 
mony. Christ's Hospital Clerk. 

At the same time he paid 8 6s. Sd., being 
quarterage at 3.s. 4rf. per annum for 50 years 
from the time his father Peter Boyer was 
admitted to his freedom to the time of his 

These extracts were sent to me by Mr, 
Herbert Boyer-Brown of Ongar, Essex, who- 
tells me that they are copied from a letter 
written by Mr. James Boyer (the clerk to- 
the Cooper's Company and son of the 
Rev. James Boyer) to his brother Francis 
in March, 1842. Mr. Boyer-Brown adds 
that although, in view of the fact that both 
migrated from France to London, it seems 
not unlikely that the Abel Boyer (1667- 
1729) born at Castres was related to Peter 
Boyer of St. Giles-in-the-Field, he has been 
unable to trace a relationship, and that 
Boyer is, of course, a very common French- 
name. E. G. DISTIN (nee BOYER). 
Holtwhite House, Enfield. 

ELEPHANT AND CASTLE (12 S. vi. 11). 
Whilst not disposed to criticize the Adam 
and Eve theory as to the origin of this sign, 
which your correspondent truly says leaves 
him " more in the dark than ever " for what 
mysteries are there which do not emanate 
from that supreme legend, or are more or 
less associated with it ? I venture to- 
suggest a more get-at-able explanation. Its' 
origin is traced in the history of chess. As- 
most of your readers must know, the elephant' 
and the castle are pieces in this most ancient" 
of games. The elephant appears in Oriental' 
chess, from whence the game came into- 
Europe ; but there was no castle on its 
back. Its meaning can only be vaguely 
guessed in the light of Hindu religion and 
philosophy, which regard this animal as- 
sacred. Instead of the present castle, there 
was originally a ship. This ship was- 
associated with the mystery of the Sacred 
Fire. It was, I venture to say, not unknown . 
to British chess, even at the period of the 
Caxton press publications, as an old copy 
of Cesolis, translated under the auspices of 
this Guild, indicates in one of its plates, 
which shows a piece with a pole and flag 
attached to it. It is impossible to make 
out for certain what the base of this piece is, 
but it certainly is not a castle ; nor do any 
of the other pieces visible (27 in all) show 
the shape of a castle. For if one is right as 
to the piece with mast and flag being a shipi 
there is no place for a castle. The Hindu 
name for the ship was roka. The Persians 
called it rukh, i.e., in their tongue, a 
champion. The Arabians, also deceived by a 
mere sound, called it roc, i.e., in their tongue-, 
a gigantic bird. The Italians, following suit, 
called it rocco, i.e., a castle. The French 
called it roquer. The English called it 
rook. It has been represented in sets of 
European chessmen for an uncertain period 
by the figure of an ancient Persian fire-tower. .. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. 112 a. vj. FEB., 1920. 

<Cf. \\Ancient Mythology,' by Jacob Bryans, 
Plate VI., vol. i., p. 410. 

Now at some early period in European 
history the game of chess underwent great 
changes. The move (oblique) of the ship, 
whose home square on the board was 

originally in the corner, was transferred to 
the piece whose home square is next to the 

king and queen. This piece bore the new 
name of bishop, among many others, and 
supplanted the elephant. By a similar 
process the move of the elephant was trans- 
ferred to the piece whose home is in the 
corner. This piece bore the new name 
of rook, i.e., castle, from the Italian, and 
supplanted the ship. Does not all this 
suggest a kind of mystic marriage ? May 
not this be a faint clue to the Adam and 
Eve legend ? Every Londoner knows, I 
suppose, that the Elephant and Castle is the 
name of a well-known tavern in Newington 
Causeway. How many of them know that 
this sign appears in an old psalter described 
as belonging to Queen Mary ? Cf. a book 
called ' Queen Mary's Psalter,' printed for 
the trustees of the B.M., 1912, Plate 167 (a). 
The castle on the elephant's back is the 
round, castellated summit of an ordinary 
present-day rook. Four or five men are 
looking over its battlements. Early English 
chess, in common with other games \v-n-e, it 
goes without saying, played by tho- > who 
frequented taverns. Is it not vo: likely 
that one tavern at least would pern tuate by 
name the memory of this revolution in the 
foest of all games ? JOHN W. BROWN. 

PLACE (12 S. v. 204, 328). I strong y 
support the impression of your recent 
correspondent with regard to the birthplace 
of the late Earl of Beaconsfield. 

No. 9 Trinity Row has been rebuilt. The 
present structure originally formed two 
shops, which, after undergoing structural 
alteration, became merged in Mr. Rack- 
straw's drapery establishment, and now 
form part of Messrs. T. R. Roberts' pre- 
mises, being numbered 215 Upper Street. 
The interest attached to the property was 
not questioned until after the Earl of 
Beaconsfield' s death. I can remember being 
shown a tree in a garden at the rear which 
was known as Disraeli's tree. 

I was born in 1861. I was often taken 
to Dr. Jackson's surgery at the corner of 
"Wilson's Yard, where I used to see a Dr. 
Jeaffreson, who used to be called " young 
Jeaffreson." This is curious, having regard 
jfco the time that had elapsed since Benjamin 

Disraeli's birth. I believe the doctor I 
was the son. I am, however, quite clear in 
saying that it was either a Dr. Jackson, or 
a Dr. Jeaffreson, who introduced me to the 
orld. ri 

At the time of the Earl of Beaconsfield' s 
death, one of the shops in question was 
occupied by a hatter, named Pratt, ^who 
draped the place with tokens of mourning, 
and displayed a notice informing the"crowd 
who gathered before the window that " This 
was the birthplace of the late Ea-rl of 

The ' Dictionary of 'N&^onai Biography ' 
(vol. xli. page 6) says that John Gough 
Nichols went to a " school kept by a T Miss 
Roper at Islington, where in 1811, Benjamin 
Disraeli, his senior by eighteen months, 
was a schoolfellow." A house in Cole- 
brooke Row, which, I believe, is still "stand- 
ing, facing Camden Street, was pointed out 
to me by my father as that school. 

The whole subject was dealt \viui at 
length in The Islington Daily Gazette of 
July 2, 7, and 21, 19i4. A search amongst 
local records has revealed nothing. The 
Disraeli family made a short stay, but did 
not permanently reside in Islington. 


13 Compton Terrace, N.I. 


MADE" (12 S. v. 288; vi. 19). The 
references to the above which have appeared 
in your recent issues have prompted me 
to look in an old newspaper-cutting book I 
have, wherein I found the following letter, 
which you may care to print. The date of 
its appearance in The Times I am unable to 
give. I may add that the late Dr. C. W. 
Stubbs, Bishop of Truro, gave me a version 
of the rmes identical with "those in Lord 
Forester's letter : 

To the Editor of The. Time*. 

Sir, Being in a position to make a correction to 
the letter of " N. B.'' in The Times of vesterday, 
headed " The Late Master of Balliol,'' I venture 
to ask the insertion of the following : 

For several year* I was very intimate with the 
Rev. Percival Mansel, of Meols Brace. Mr. 
Mansel's father was Master of Trinity College, 
Cambridge, and also Bishop of Bristol. He was 
not a little fond of versifying incidents in Cam- 
bridge life. His son told me of more than one of 
them amongst them was the rhyme-story on 
Dr. Jowett. 

Dr. Jowett discontinued residing in college, and 

took a small house in Cambridge. In front of his 

house was a space sufficiently ample for a bed of 

flowers. He was. as your correspondent remarks, 

I of a diminutive stature, 

12 8. VI. FEB., 1920.] 



The Master of Trinity was unable to resist the 
opportunity then presented of the bed of flowers 
and the protecting fence, and so he (not an under- 
graduate) put forth these lines : 
Little Dr. Jowett a little garden made, 
And fenced his little garden with a little palisade. 
When these rhymes had obtained sufficient circula- 
tion, poor Jowett was so annoyed that he had all 
the flowers removed and gravel mbsiituted. Dr. 
Mansel could not even now let the little man alone. 
In a few days the following lines appeared : 
When this little garden 

Became the town's talk. 

He turned his little garden 

Into a little gravel walk. 

Dr. Lort Mansel -was Master of Trinity when 
Lord Byron was an undergraduate, and was him- 
self a subject of a squib by that noble poet, and 
perhaps more than one. 

I am Sir, yours faithfully, 

Willey Park, Broseley. Shropshire. Oct. 13. 

G. T. S. 


[October Ifc', 1893, is the date of the publication of 
this letter in The Times.} 

GRAFTON. OXON (12 S. v. 320). Graf ton 
is a township and hamlet in the parish of 
Langford, W. Oxon, see the ' History, 
Gazetteer and Directory of the County of 
Oxford,' 1852, published by Robert Gardner. 

This place is given in Bartholomew's 
' Gazetteer ' as 4 \ miles north-east of Lech- 
lade, has an acreage of 625, and a population 

BANK NOTE SLANG (12 S. v. 309). Your 
correspondent has omitted to notice 
" flimsy " and " flimsies," among his ex- 
amples of bank note slang. These find a 
place in the ' N.E.D. ' with the following 
illustrative quotations : 

1824. P. Egan, 'Boxiana,' iv., 443. "Martin pro- 
duced some flimsies, and said he would fight on 
Tuesday next." 

1845. Alb. Smith, ' Fort. Scatterg Fam.' xxxii. 
(1887). 108.-" I'll stand a five pun' flimsy for the 

Your correspondent also appears to be 
wrong in his suggestion that " to sham 
Abraham " was " to forge," and was derived 
from the forgery of Bank of England notes 
which, in the slang of the day, took their 
popular name from Abraham Newland, the 
chief cashier of the Bank, whose signature 
they bore. Archdeacon Nares, in his Glos- 
sary has : 

"Abraham-men. A set of vagabonds who 
wandered about the country, soon after the dissolu- 
tion of the religious houses ; the provision for the 
poor in those places being cut off, and no other 
substituted Hence probably the phrase of 

'shamming Abraham ' still extant among sailors.'* 
See ' Roderick Random.' 

The ' N.E.D.' gives " Abraham man (possi- 
bly in allusion to the parable of the beggar 
Lazarus in Luke xvii.) " and then quotes 
Nares' s definition as above. It then gives 
(amongst others) the following quotation : 
1561. Awdelay, 'Frat. Vacabondes,' 3." An 
Abraham-man is he that walketh bare-armed and 
bare-legged, and fayneth hymselfe mad." 

It then adds : " Hence to sham Abraham is 
to feign sickness, a phrase in use among : 
sailors." WM. SELF WEEKS. 

Westwood, Clitheroe. 

The statement that about a century ago 
the phrase " to sham Abraham "was then 
slang for " to forge," seems to call for further 

According to the ' N.E.D.' an " Abraham- 
man, or Abram-man" was "one of a set^of 
vagabonds who wandered about the country 
soon after the dissolution of the religious 
houses". Among the llustrative quotations 
is one from ' The Slang Dictionary ' ( J, C. 
Hotten, 1869). The definition in this work 
is as follows : 

" Abram-Sham, or Sham - Abraham : to feign 
sickness or distress. From Abram-man, the ancient 
cant term for a begging impostor, or one who pre- 
tended to have been mad. (Burton's ' Anatomy of 
Melancholy,' vol. i , p. 360). When Abraham 
Newland was cashier of the Bank of England, and 
signed their notes, it was sung : 
I have heard people say. 
That sham Abraham you may, 
But you musn't sham Abraham Newland." 

Neither the ' N.E.D.' nor the ' Slang Dic- 
tionary ' gives any explanation of how th& 
word "plum" came to mean 100,OOOL It 
seems, however, not unlikely that it was 
derived from the figurative use of that word 
to denote a "good thing" one of the 
" prizes " of life (see ' N.E.D.,' Plum, d. fig.). 
The earliest quotation for the use of "pony," 
meaning 25Z., in the 'N.E.D.' is 1797, 
"Monkey" (500/.) is used in 1832, but is 
explained in the quotation given as meaning 
5QL, "probably erroneously." T. F. D. 

I never saw an English one-pound note 
until the present distressful days began ; 
but in the middle of last century a man, 
some twenty years older than I, used to 
sing : 

A guinea it will sink, and a note it will float 
But I'd rather have a guinea than a one-pound 


And why is the guinea coin obsolete, when 
the sum is still so much insisted on in 
charges 1 

NOTES AND QUERIES. 112 s. vi. FKB.. 1920. 

The name Bradbury was of late attached 
-to a Treasury note for 1Z., and not only t 
the paper token of ten shillings, as MB 
MENMUIB implies. Sovereigns, perhaps golc 
.coins generally, were often referred to a 
" yellow boys." We are in no " yellow 
peril " of seeing too many of them just now 


Will you permit me to say that while 
"fiver" is familiar slang in America, '. 
never heard the expression " monkey " for a 
$500 bill, and I doubt very much if the wore 
.is in use in our country with this meaning. 

70 State Street, Boston, Mass. 

[MR. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT, who also replies 
refers readers to 10 S. vii. 469 ; viii. 293, 395, 477 
ix. 37, 417.] 

DEAL AS A PLACE OF CALL (12 S. vi. 12). 
The old East Indiamen used to call regu- 
larly at Deal, it being their custom to anchor 
in the Downs both when outward and home- 
ward bound, often staying there for a 
number of days. The ships were taken 
down the Thames by the East India Com- 
pany's own pilots, this Corporation having 
their own pilot-cutter. Passengers going to 
the East frequently joined their ship in the 
Downs, and were often well " fleeced " by 
the Deal boatmen who put them on board. 
No doubt some of those returning from the 
East would be glad to land at Deal and coach 
or post to London, thereby avoiding the 
delay involved in the passage round to the 
Thames. See ' The Old East Indiamen,' 
by E. K. Chatterton, pp. 154, 219, &c. (T. 
Werner Laurie, Ltd., London, n.d.). 

T. F. D. 
[G. H. W. also thanked for reply.] 

f GREEN HOLLY (12 S. v. 319; vi. 21). A 
carol in praise of the holly, written in the 
reign of Henry VI., is in the Harleian Col- 
Icetion of MSS., No. 5396. It was printed 
in Brand's ' Popular Antiquities,' by Ellis. 
f~ William Sandys, F.S.A., in his ' Christmas- 
tide,' speaking of the practice of decorating 
churches and houses with evergreens at the 
Christmas season, says : 

" In the earlier carols thb holly and the ivy are 
mentioned, where the ivy. however, is generally 
treated as a foil to the holly, and not considered 
appropriate to festive purposes. 

Holly and Ivy made a great party, 
Who should have the mastery 

In lands where they go. 
Then spoke Holly, ' I am friske and jolly, 
I will have the mastery ' 

In lands where they go." 

Apart from the probability that the holly 
in common with other red berried trees, like 

the hawthorn and the rowan-tree, was a 
sacred tree from the earliest times, its bright 
red berries must always have made it the 
most attractive evergreen for winter decora- 
tions, and its popular name of " Christmas " 
bears witness to its long and close association 
with the revels and merriment of the 
Christmas season. It appears to me that 
this association is sufficient to account for 
the idea that the holly is the emblem of mirth. 

In the verses sent by LADY RUSSELL 
(ante, p. 22), " Ivy hath a lybe,' '" lybe " is 
probably a misreading of kybe, a chilblain. 
The front part of a fc is often so small and 
indistinct in MSS. as to be over-looked. 

J. T. F. 


2. The whole poem will he found in Ward's 
' English Poets,' vol. iii. pp. 579-58U. 


3. A misquotation. The opening lines of ' Early 
Rising,' by J. G. Saxe, runs thus : 

God bless the man who first invented sleep. 

C. S. C. 

This appears to be an imperfect recollection cf 
the opening lines of Canto IV., Doctor Syntax's 
Tour in search of the picturesque ' : 
Rless'd be the man, said he of yore 
Who Quixote's lance and target bore ! 
Bless'd be the man who first taught sleep 
Throughout our wearied frames to creep, 
And kindly gave to human woes 
The oblivious mantle of repose ! 
For the' original of which see ' Don Quixote,' 
part II., chap. Ixviii. E.G. BAYFORD. 

38 Eldon Street, Barnsley. 

The lines occur in a set of humorous verses 
entitled ' Early Rising' written bv John Godfrey 
Saxe, an American born in 1816, who died in 1887. 
3ancho Pauza's words (in 'Don Quixote,' II., 68) 
began : 

' Bien haya el que invento el sueno, capa que 
jubre todos los liumanos pensamientos ' 

The saying also took the fancy of Sterne ; see 
Tristram Shandy,' book IV., chap. xv. 


[DR. HENRY LEFFMANN also thanked for reply.] 

4. Your correspondent misquotes Kingsley, who 
wrote : In Arzina caught, 

Perished with all his crew. 

_ingsley misquotes Thomson. The passage occurs 
n 'The Seasons,' near the end of ' Winter.' 

C. S. C. 

Arzina is said to be a harbour near Kegor, 
where Norwegian Lapland marches with Russian, 
lowever, neither place can be found in such maps 
ud gazetteers as I have been able t,o consult. 

PROF. G. C. MOORE SMITH also thanked for reply 

6. When Milton lost his eyes Poetry lost hers 
ccurs in ' Guesses at Truth,' by J. C. and A. W. 
Hare. C. S. C. 

12 S. VI. FEB., 1920.] 


on Uoohs. 

The Stone* and Story of Jesns Chapel. By Iris and ! 

Gerda Morgan. Illustrated by Iris, Blenda and 

Coral Morgan. (Bowes and Bowes, Cambridge, 

Crown 4to, xiv-378 pp., 21s. net.) 
THE gifted daughters of the late Dr. Morgan* 
Master of Jesus, whose memory is revered by more 
than one generation of Jesus men, have given us 
not merely an architectural record, as the title 
would suggest, but a living story of this unique 
Cambridge college that is worthy of a high place 
amongst University histories. The work so hand- 
somely carried out was printed in 1914 but the War 
delayed its publication till December 1919. 

The style makes it more suitable for the general 
reader than for the archaeologist. The diction is 
plain and straightforward, though for the most part 
the tone of the marginal notes is sometimes more 
such as we expect in books written for young folk. 
Not only do the authors trace with admirable 
clearness the identity of the college buildings with 
those of the Benedictine nunnery of St. Radegnnd, 
which was founded in the 12th century and con- 
tinued with varying fortunes until the foundation 
of the college by Bishop Alcock in 1496, but they 
bring out the essential continuity of the social life 
lived within these walls through nearly eight cen- 
turies. That they are telling, as it were, the history 
of their own home, is evident from the vivid and 
human touches with which they describe the doings 
of the nuns, the gradual decay of their community, 
and the evolution of the college out of the small 
body of six fellows and a few school boys founded 
by the statesman Bishop of Ely. The troubles of 
the Society in the uncertain times of the Reform- 
ation and Cromwellian period make an eventful 
story. In the eighteenth century the college appears 
to have been distinguished rather by solid scholar- 
ship and piety than by brilliance, until the names 
of Coleridge, Malthus and E. D. Clarke appear on 
the record 

For the student of ecclesiastical architecture there 
is much valuable material in the account of the de- 
velopment of the Chapel, commencing with its origin 
as the parochial and conventual Church of St. 
Radegund and tracing its reconstruction by Bishop 
Alcock, its beautifications and spoliations in Tudor 
and Puritan times, and its successive Classical and 
Gothic restorations in the last century. The story 
of the domestic buildings, first as the house of the 
nuns and then as part of the colleg, is also full of 
interest, culminating in the discovery of the well- 
known chapter-house entrance so recently as 1893-4. 
One appendix gives biographical notes of the 
Masters, a second a list of the gravestones and 
memorial tablets in the Chapel, and the volume is 
enriched by a number of excellent illustrations. 

Gullivers Travel*, The Tale of a Tub, and The Battle 
of the Book*. By Jonathan Swift. (Humphrey 
Milford, '3s. 6rf. net). 

WE welcome this addition to the ' Oxford Edition 
of Standard Authors,' a series of books which is both 
sound and decidedly cheap. 'Gulliver 'of late has 
gone up considerably in secondhand bookshops ; 
indeed, the latest edition we saw the other day has 
advanced sdme 250 per cent in price during the 
War. The reader who wants the book could hardly 
do better than secure this edition, as it contains 

also other authentic efforts of Swift's genius. - 
His full text is not for children, for the strange, 
morbid side of Swift shows up in his fairy-like fan- 
tasies. But how much of his satire remains pun- 
gent to-day, particularly for the political world, the 
Big-Endians and their ruthless opponents, and the 
great officers of Lilliput who win their places by 
skill in rope dancing! The Treasurer could cut a 
caper on the tight ropo at. least an inch higher than 
anybody else, and Gulliver had seen him " do the 
summerset several times together upon a trencher 
fixed on the rope." 

The irony of ' A Discourse on the Mechanical 
Operation of the Spirit' is still pretty shrewd, and, 
if we had a Swift living to-day, he could find abun- 
dant material for a '.Critical Essay upon the Art of 

The Oxford University Press may always be 
trusted to give a good text ; and the reproductions 
of the original titlepages and introductions are a* 
pleasant reminder of the age which admitted, as- 
Swift notes in the 'Tale of a Tub,' a "multiplicity 
of god-fathers." One of the t itlepages of ' Gulliver ' 
mentions " verses explanatory and commendatory." 
Could not some of Pope's ' Poems Suggested by 
Gulliver' have been added, the 'Ode 10 Quinbus 
Flestrin ' for instance, or ' The Lamentation of 
Glumdalclitch for the Loss of Grildrig'? 

Penseex sur la science, la fjuerre et sur den svjets 
tres varies. Glances par Dr. Maurice Lecat. 
(Bruxelles, Lamartin ; Paris, A. Hermann et fils, 
1919. Extract, fr. 1 50.) 

WE have received an extract of this work, made 
up of sample pages and parts of the indexes of 
subjects and authors, quoted. The author says in 
his preface that this book is a part (about 11,000 
we suppose) of the 123,500 quotations he has col- 
lected in h>s leisure during twenty years. As he 
gives no details of the sources beyond the authors' 
names, anyone rash enough to wish to verify the 
quotation* may sacrifice another twenty years in 
so doing. Science is the main subject. Dr. Lecat 
' documente les savants proprements dits.' But his 
range is truly catholic, and he may well claim im- 
partiality. Leonardo da Vinci is near Zamakhs- 
chari, Cicero near Schilling, Voltaire near Tolstoi ; 
the ex-Kaiser goes with Spinoza, Heraclitus with 
Lichteuberger. But we do not understand the 
principle of translation. Menander is in Greek, 
but Plato in French, Machiavelli is translated, but 
Lope de Vega left in Portuguese. The author 
makes too many claims for his work, but a certain 
interest, especially to some sorts of minds, un- 
doubtedly attaches to it. Dr. Lecat is a mathe- 
matician, and must have chuckled when he noted 
down M. Vipsanius Agrippa's " Mathematics is 
not a fit study for those who fear God." 

Bulletin of the John Rylands Library, vol. v. 
nos. 3 and 4. Manchester University Press, 2. 
IN this very interesting and well-illustrated 
number Dr. Rendel Harris writes on ' Metrical 
Fragments in III. Maccabees ' and Dr. F. A. 
Bruton on ' The Story of Peterloo.' Dr. Mingana 
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Mopsuestia ' a translation of a Syriac. text 
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Mr. Robert Fawtier writes on the ' Jews in the 
" Use of York." ' Prof. Tout is admirable oh 
' Mediaeval Forgers and Forgeries ' ; he discusses 


[12 IS. VI. FEB., 1920. 

- their prevalence, their motives and the leniencj 
accorded them. In particular he gives an 
account of the false " Ingulfs ' History of Crow 

- land ' " in the fourteenth century and, by way oi 
comparison, of the eighteenth-century " Richard 
of Cirencester's ' De Situ Britanniae," " forged by 
Bertram. There are plenty of such " docu- 
ments " being made to-day. 

Dr. W. H. B. Rivers's paper on ' Mind and 
Medicine ' outlines very briefly the history of the 
subject from primitive religions to psycho- 
analysis. His views are weighed carefully, but 

- the dubious " gregarious instinct " creeps in, 
and we doubt his advice to statesmen- The 
influence of primitive institutions on -present- 
day ideas and institutions have been investigated 

' in somewhat the way Dr. Rivers wants, by the 
economist Mr. Thorstein Veblen. ' I>ragons and 
Rain Gods,' by Dr. G. Elliot Smith is a fascinating 
study. He tries to trace their history and 
discover where they sprang from. Thus, he 

- thinks, dragon myths for the most part come 
from India. We confess his methods do not 

- impress us. He insists that his theories are 
almost diametrically opposed to the psychologists 
Freud, Jung, Abraham, and the others of the 

- same school. We must say that as far as logic 
goes, these have the advantage, as often Dr. 
Smith risks falling, into 'the fallacy post hoc, ergo 
propter hoc. When more evidence is forth- 
coming, as is expected, to prove that in every- 
body's mind there lurks the images of dragons 
and wizards and other monsters, the filiation 

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How I learned it in one evening. 


" Have you heard the news about Frank Jordan ? 
He's been made secretary of the company ! " 

This news quickly brought me to the little group 
which hid gathered in the centre of the office. 

I could hardly believe my ears I knew Jordan was 
a capable fellow, quiet and unassuming, but I never 
would have selected him for any such sudden rise. I 
knew, to", that the Secretary of the Great Eastern had 
to be a big man, and I wondered how in the world 
Jordan secured the position. 

The first chance I got I walked into Jordan's new 
office, and after congratulating him warmly I asked 
him to give me the details of how he jumped ahead so 
quickly. His sr.ory is so intensely interesting that I 
am going to repeat it as closely as I remember. 

" I'll tell you just bow it happened, George, because 
you may pick up a point or two that will help you. 

" You remember how scared I used to be whenever I 
had to talk to the chief? You remember how you used 
to tell me that every time I opened my mouth I put my 
foot into it, meaning, of course, that every time I spoke 
I got into trouble ? You remember when Ralph Sinton 
left to take charge of the Western office and I was 
asked to present him with the silver cup the boys gave 
him how flustered I was, and how I couldn't say a word 
because there were people around? You remember 
how confused I used to be every time I met new people ? 
I could'nt say what I wanted to say when I wanted to 
say it ; and I determined that if there was any possible 
chance to learn how to talk I was going to do it. 

"The first thing I did was to buy a number of books 
on public speaking, but they seemed to be meant for 
those who wanted to become orators, whereas what I 
wanted to learn was not only how to speak in public, 
but bow to speak to individuals under various condi- 
tions in business and social life. 

"A few weeks later, just as I was about to give up 
hope of ever learning how to talk interestingly, I read 
an announcement stating that Dr. Frederick L<vw had 
just completed a new course in business talking and 
public speaking entitled ' Mastery of Speech*' The 
course was offered on approval without money in 
advance, so, since I had nothing whatever to lose by 
examining the lessons, I sent for them, and in a few 
days tney arrived. I glanced through the entire eight 
lessons, reading the headings and a few paragraphs 
here and there, and in about an hour the whole secret 
of effective speaking was open to me. 

'For example, I learned why I had always lacked 
confidence, why talking had always seemed something 
to be dreaded, whereas it is really the simplest thing 
in the world to ' get up and talk.' I learned how to 
secure complete attention to what I was saying, and 
how to make everything I said interesting, foicefu), and 
convincing. I learned the art of listening, the vajue 
of silence, and the power of brevity. Instead of being 
funny at the wrong time, I learned how and when to 
use humour with telling effect. 

" But perhaps the most wonderful part of the lessons 
were the actual examples of what things to say and 
when to say them to meet every condition. I found 
that there was a knack in making oral reports to my 
superiors. I found that there was a right way and a 
wrong way to present complaints, to give estimates 
and to isRueorders. 

" I picked up some wonderful points about how to give 
my opinions, about how to answer complaints, about 
how to ask the bank for a loan, about how to ask for 
extensions. Another thing that struck me forcibly 
was that, instead of antagonizing people when I didn't 
agree with them, I learned how to bring them round 
to my way of thinking in the most pleasant sort of way. 

Then, of course, along with those lessons there were 
chapters on speaking before large audiences, how to findJ 
material fur talking and speaking. howto talk to friends, 
how to talk to servants, and how to talk to children. 

" Why, I got the secret the very first evening, and it 
was only a short time before I was able to apply all of 
the principls, and found that mv words were begin- 
ning to have an almost magical effect upon everybody 
to whom I spoke. It seemed that I got things done 
instantly, whereas formerly, as you know, what I said, 
went 'in one ear and out of the other.' I began to 
acquire an executive ability that surprised me. I 
smoothed out difficulties like a true diplomat. In my 
talks with the chief I spoke clearly, simply, convinc- 
ingly. Then came my first promotion since I entered 
the accounting department. I was given the job of 
answering complaints, and I made good. From that I 
was given the job of making collections. When Mr. 
Buckley joined the Officers Training Corps I was made 
secretary- Between you and me, Georga, my salary is- 
now 1,500 a year, and I expect it will be more by the 
end of the year. 

"And I want to tell you honestly that I attribute 
my success solely to the fact that I learned how to talk 
to people." 

When Jordan finished I asked hin> for the address of 
the publishers of Dr. Law's Course, and he gave it to 
me. I sent for it and found it to be exactly as he had 1 
stated. After studying the eight simple lessons I 
began to sell to people wh had previously refused to 
listen to me at all. After four months of record- 
breaking sales during the dullest season of the year, I 
received a wire from the chief asking me to return to- 
the city office. We had quite a long talk, in which I 
explained how I was able to break sales records, and I 
was appointed Sales Manager at almost twice my 
former salary. I know that there was nothing in me 
that had changed except that I had acquired the 
ability to talk, where formerly I simply used "words 
without reason." I can never thank Jordan enough 
for telling me about Dr. Law's Coursa in Business 
Talking and Public Speaking. Jordan and I are both' 
spending all our spare time in making public speeches- 
on political subjects, ami Jordan is being talked about, 
now as Mayor of our Town. 


So confident are the publishers of " Mastery of 
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bury Oxford English Dictionary Church of St. Kather- 
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Father of the Chapel, 62 D.D. Cantab, 63. 

QUERIES : Louis Napoleon in Lancashire St. Stephen 
and Herod St. Malo, 63 Earliest Clerical Directory- 
Michael Drum' The Chess-hoard of Life 'The Sixth 
Foot Silver Punch Lsdle Metham R s Coningsby, 64 
' The Times ' : Burlesque Copy Geary or Geery Family 
Robert Jenner Pinner of Wakefleld Unannotated 
Marriages at Westminster, 65 Udiiy Edmund Dozell 
Rev. John Stones Robert Trotman Jacobite Memorial 
Ring John Griffiths Pollard Family, 66 - W. Cecil (Lord 
Burghley) Pewier Snuffers Hawkhurst Gang William 
Alabaster John Pearce Poems for Children Slates and 
Slate Pencils Cross-bearer of the University of Cambridge 
Thoringron, 67 Miller's ' Gardener's Dictionary ' Mary 
Jones Alfieri's Tutor Richard Dudley Curious Sur- 
namesLetter from the King (George IV.) Authors of 
Quotations Wanted, 68. 

REPLIES : " We Four Fools." 68 An English Army List 
of 1740, 70 " The Whole Duty of Man," 71 William 
Harper J J. Kleinschmidt Monkshood Bramble 
'Philochristus' : ' Ecce Homo' Capt. J. W. Carleton, 
72 Walvein Family Lord Bowen Author of Anthem 
Wanted" Bocase " Tree Emerson's ' English Traits,' 73 
Congeivoi Lawrence Wodecocke, 74 Newton. R.A. 
St. Cassian " Epater le bourgeois "Edmund Uvedale 
Rev. Aaron Baker, 75 Dreux Family Donkeys' Years, 76 
John Witty John Sykes Urchfont. 77 Danvers Family 
Rsv. J. H. Bransbury S. Hopkins Sir E. Paget 
'' Gram" Dumb Animals' Friend, 78 Lepers' Windows 
Authors of Quotations Warned, 79. 

NOTES ON BOOKS : ' Sidelights on Shakespeare ' 
' Catalogue of Printed Music ' ' Tales by Washington 
Irving' 'The British Academy.' 

OBITUARY -.Arthur Henry Bullen. 

Notices to Correspondents. 



1. ' INF.' xxiv. 4-6. 

Quando la brina in su la terra assempra 

L'imagine di sua sorella bianca, 

Ma poco dura alia sua penna tempra. 

A momentary attention must be drawn to 
the exquisite gem of poetic contrast set, 
so to speak, in the brow of this strange 
canto. Varied and curious to the Italian- 
English reader are some of the renderings 
into our speech of, as the Rev. H. F. Tozer 
rightly calls it, " this beautiful simile " : : 

H. F. Gary : 

When as the rime upon the earth puts on 
Her dazzling sister's image, but not long 
Her milder sway endures. 

. Tomlinson : 

When the hoar-frost doth copy, on the ground, 
The image of her sister clothed in white, 
Though fleeting her pen's temper must be owned. 
J. Ford : 

And on the ground the dewy frost pourtrays 
The image of her sister blanch and bright, 
But soon in her soft feathery film decays. 
E. H. Plumptre : 
When on the ground the hoar-frost semblance 


Of the fair image of her sister white, 
But soon her brush its colour true forsakes. 

The last quoted observes on this passage : 
"The phrase 'hoar frost, the sister of snow,' 
will remind the reader of 'dust, the sister of 
mud,' in ^Esch., 'Agam.' 495. The comparison is 
among the longest and most vivid of any in the poem, 
and is a typical example of the union of the power 
that observes the phenomena of external nature 
with insight into human feelings as affected by 

And Mr. Tozer finds it " for Dante, un- 
usually long and elaborate in its details," 
refers to " similar effects of contrast " in 
' Inf.' xxvi. 25 and 64, concluding by hinting 
that " this mode of poetic treatment is one 
for which he may have been indebted to 
Virgil," and supplying three instances from 
the ' ^Eneid ' x. 803 (ac velut, effusa si 
quando grandine nimbi, &c.) ; xii. 473 (ef 
penitus alta atria lustrat hirundo, &c.); 
and xii. 587 (Inclusas ut cum latebroso in 
pumice pastor vestigavit apes, &c.). It is 
well that the hint of Dante's imitation or 
plagiarism is conveyed conjecturally, for, 
it seems to me, as with Shakespeare so 
with Dante, commentators evince an almost 
feverish anxiety in their quest of, not 
merely thought-likenesses, but absolutely 
unacknowledged adaptations and adoptions. 
We know the poet's triple admission to 
Virgil's shade from the lines : 

Vagliami il lungo studio 

Tu se' lo mio maestro e il mio autore. 

Da cui io tolsi 

Lo bello stile che mi ha fatto onore. 

'Inf.,' 1.83, seq. 

But I regard Dean Plump tre's suggestion 
that " in the vision of Hades in Bk. VI. of 
the ' /Eneid ' he found, it need hardly be 
said, the archetype of the ' Commedia,' " 
as a reflection upon his originality and 
inventiveness. A post hoc er$o propter hoc 
is not always nor necessarily a valid argu- 
ment. Nor was it pressed as such for fully 
five centuries after Dante's death, and, 
strangely enough, by a compatriot of his. 
In the January number of The Antiquary, 
1912, I concluded a second article headed 
* Some Precursors of Dante ' thus : 

" The above are but few, though perhaps the 
chief, instances out of many culled from the rich 
eschatological inheritance into which Dante 


NOTES AND Q UER1E8. [12 s. vi. MARCH, 1920. 

entered, and of which he so gloriously availed 
himself. Yet from his death up till 1814 he had 
remained, in the estimate of the uncritical, sole and 
undisputed master of this branch of literature. It 
is just a hundred years, says Mr. Dods in the open- 
ing of his Volume, * since Dante enjoyed unchal- 
lenged the credit of having not only composed but 
invented the various pictures of his Divine Comedy. 
The first serious assailant of his originality was a 
countryman of his own, one Francesco Cancellieri, 
who, in 1814. accused the poet of copying the details 
of Purgatory and Hell from a certain manuscript 
which his learned critic then published for the first 
time.' t Four years later Ollgo Foscolo poured out 
the vials of his wrath upon the attack in the Edin- 
burgh Review (vol. xxx bept., 1818), but inadvisably, 
for later still both Ozanam and Labitte showed 
Dante's indebtedness to his precursors in Eschat- 
ology, the former stating calmly : 

"II trouvait cette tradition dans un cycle entier 
de legendes, de songes, d 'apparitions, de voyages 
au monde invisible, ou revenaient toutes les scenes 
de la damnation et de la beatitude Sans, doute il 
devaient mettre 1'ordre etla lumiere dans ce chaos, 
mais il fallait qu'avant lui le chaos existat.". 

Though, as the first sentence of my 
quoted remarks shows, I shared these views 
in 1JI 12, I have since found reason, based on 
the logical fallacy cited above, to revise 
them. Plump tre's charge of indebtedness 
is, of course, more serious than Tozer's, 
but I now regard both as without proof. 
This not infrequent similarity of thought in 
literary compositions is to me but an 
interesting coincidence of cerebration. That 
such a phenomenon is a commonplace of all 
literatures need not, nor does it necessarily, 
imply conscious imitation, still less un- 
blushing plagiarism for which indebtedness 
is but a euphuism. But modern critics 
will not have it so. Given certain simi- 
larities of plot and ideas between authors 
engaged on the same subject-matter, and 
incontinently servile assimilation if not 
downright pilfering is scented. The tall 
talk about turning other men's dross into 
gold does not change the fact that it is the 
negation of creative power. Perforce this 
gift is conceded to Shakespeare and Dante, 
but an enlightened criticism must exact, on 
the strength of modern discoveries, a more 
than undesigned coincidence in the striking 
kinship of matter and treatment between 
their own productions and those of writers 
on similar themes, whether pre-existing or 
contemporaneous. So, while the former 
drew upon Holinshead's and other Chronicles 
for the plots of his plays and tinkered raw 
ones from unskilled pens as pot-boilers, % 

* 'Forerunners of Dante.' Marcus. Dods, 1903. 

t ' Osservazioni sopra 1'originalita della Divina 
Commedia di Dante.' Roma, 1814. 

$ As parts of 'Cymbeline' R. Whing in the 
Manchester Quardian, Jan. 10, 1920 

Dante owed his inspiration to Cancellieri' a 
" certain manuscript " and many other like 
compositions. This is the verdict of our 
modern quidnuncs from which I venture to 
dissociate myself. 

As a final word upon these lines it is 
worth noting that Dr. Moore supplies but 
the subjoined verbal variants thereupon : 
exempra AA. ; asfsempla F. ; sempra M. ; 
poco basta F. ; e la sua CDI. ; prima tempra 
A.E. ; pera CDKLM. 

J. B. McGovEBN. 
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester. 


(See 12 S. v. 96, 131, 183, 243, 332.) 

IN April of last year a request was made in 
' N. &.Q.' concerning the name of a West 
Country priest who was executed in 1548. 
An answer was given the following May, 
that the priest was Martin Geoffrey who 
took part in the Western rebellion. In 
private correspondence on the above sub- 
ject the name of a George Stocker was 
frequently mentioned ; this man led a very 
adventurous life in the religious persecu- 
tions towards the end of Elizabeth's reign, 
as the three last references prove. Although 
in the list printed by Strype (Ann. III. 2-600) 
George Stocker' s name occurs under the 
heading, " These persons are Seminary 
priests, being taken upon the seas or in 
prison at the time of the statute," I am 
inclined to agree that he was not a priest 
but a lay gentleman. In 1851 his name 
occurs more than once among the ' Pilgrims 
from England to Rome ' ( Collectanea 
Typographica et Genealogica, vol. ii. p. 79). 
In a letter from the Scottish Jesuit Creighton 
to the Italian Jesuit Alfonse Aggazia, who 
in March, 1579, had been appointed Rector 
of the English College at Rome, George 
Stocker is mentioned, and there is little 
doubt but at that time he was secretly 
communicating with persons who were con- 
spiring against Elizabeth ; at that time he 
was said to be a gentleman living' in exile 
with the Earl of Westmoreland. He had 
then doubtless for some time been suspected 
and kept under observation. In 1586 the 
Babbington conspiracy (fixed for Aug. 24. 
Chambers) failed, and the conspirators 
scattered in every direction. 

Many were apprehended, and fourteen 
persons were executed for it on Sept. 20 



and 21. George Stocker and two of his 
friends, Robert Bellamy and Thomas Heath 
"were arrested on suspicion of complicity in 
the plot, for among those executed was one, 
Jerome Bellamy of London : and indict- 
ments were also brought against Elizabeth 
or Katharine Bellamy. Stocker was lodged 
in the Tower, Feb. 7th, 1587/8, as we are 
informed in a list endorsed by Lord Burghley, 
July 2, 1588 (but the R.O. Calendar notes 
"August, clearly"). The entry runs: 
" Februa. 1578, George Stocker, prisoner 
6 months who hath bin in ffrance these 
XXtie years and came over to fetch the 
Earl of Westmorelands daughter." To this 
Lord Burghley had added a note "to ye 
M,shlsey" see Oath. Rec. Soc. 2. 282. 
However, in a list of Priests at Wisbech 
and prisoners in the Tower (which is un- 
dated but is earlier than October, 1588), 
there appears among the latter " George 
'Stocker, the old Earl of Northumberland's 
man, and would have conveyed away his 
daughter, he came lately from Rome " 
(see Cath. Rec. Soc., ii. 280). It is there- 
fore uncertain who the lady was whom 
Stocker came to fetch. In 1587/8 he 
admitted (under torture) that Philip 
Howard, Earl of Arundel, then also a 
prisoner in the Tower, had " prepared keys 
for opening of prison doors" (Cath. Rec. 
Soc., xxi, 208). Stocker has left a touching 
relation of the sufferings of himself and 
others (Fr. J. H. Pollen, S.J., 'Acts of the 
English Martyrs,' p. 300). After their 
removal to Newgate to await trial, Stocker, 
Bellamy, and Heath managed to escape from 
prison and arrived in Edinburgh before 
Feb. 15, 1588/9 (Cath. Rec. Soc., xxi. 307). 
By September, 1589, they had succeeded in 
escaping to Spa. 

In Lansdown MS. is a copy of a letter 
written by George Stocker to his friend 
Sir Anthony Snowdon, giving a graphic 
account of the escape of the three from 
Newgate, " Having the tools of a carpenter 
brought thither to mend the floor of a room 
called Justice hall, they did therein cut 
certain joices, whereby they got down into 
a cellar which had a door into the street, 
which they opened and escaped." A letter 
to Sir Owen Hopton states " that whereas 
George Stocker presentlie remayning in the 
' Towre, being latelie apprehended, not long 
before came from the enemy out of the Low 
Countryes, having twice alreadie escaped, 
foreasmuch as he was known to have been 
a pensioner of the King of Spain." The 
torture of George Stocker by the Inquisition 
is recorded in Scottish Papers. Whilst a 

prisoner in the Tower, the prison author- 
ities, to gain information, mixed with the 
prisoners two notorious spies, Topcliff, and 
a man passing under the name of John 
Snowdon, but whose real name was Cecil : 
these spies are mentioned an MS. of the 
Cath. Rec. Soc. 

What ultimately became of Stocker and 
Heath I do not know ; they probably died 
abroad. Bellamy, however, was sent back 
to the English prison not long after, having 
been seized by Duke Casimir, " the great 
Condottiere of the German Protestants." 
He eventually procured liberty by money 
(ibid. 307a). 

Can any reader say if the above George 
Stocker wa? a relation of F. Augustine 
Stocker, O.S.B., who died in London 1668 ? 

8 Cathedral Close, Norwich. 


(See 12 S. v. 286.) 

IT is to be hoped that Mr. George F. Bos- 
worth, the local public librarian, the local 
clergy, and the Walthamstow Antiquarian 
Society, will be encouraged to continue their 
careful and scholarly explorations in the 
past history of the sometime Forest hamlet, 
for the edification of the immense indust- 
trial population which has grown up in the 
north-eastern part of great London during 
the last two generations. 

References to Walthamstow in the famous 
Diary of Samuel Pepys are numerous, in 
relation to Sir William Batten ; Sir W. Perm 
(the father of the founder of Pennsylvania) ; 
Mr. Radcliff (the vicar who was Samuel 
Pepys' s schoolfellow) ; the Brownes ; the 
Jordans ; the Shipmans, &c., showing that 
the City and the Services had, even early in 
the seventeenth century, appreciated the 
advantages which were offered by Waltham- 
stow' s rural and forestral amenities within 
an easy amble of Guildhall and the principal 
marts and exchanges of London town, and 
similarly convenient for the centre of the 
shipping and naval interests in the waterside 
hamlets eastward of the Tower. 

Mr. Edwin Freshfield mentions the tradi- 
tion that the plate of St. Mary's Church 
was taken and held to ransom by the 
notorious Whitechapel butcher-boy and 
highwayman, Dick Turpin; but so far as the 
Walthamstow Antiquarian Society knows 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. MARCH, 1920. 

the parish records have no reference to 
this incident ; and Mr. Bosworth believes 
there is no foundation for the tradition. It 
is in fact a common form of the myths 
which have grown up around the personality 
of one who was a specially vulgar and brutal 
rogue without a spark of chivalry or 
gallantry in him. 


The compiler of the Walthamstow mono- 
graphs is justly express in acknowledging his 
indebtedness to the vicar (the Rev. . H. D. 
Lampson, M.A.) for guidance and encourage- 
ment in the work of recounting the history 
of Walthamstow St. Mary's Church. Mr. 
Bosworth says : 

" When we remember that the Church has stood 
for more than 800 years we realise that it holds the 
chief place in the historical associations of 
Walthamstow. The Church and Churchyard are 
the links that join the Walthamstow of to-day with 
the pre-Norman Wilcumstow, and remind us of our 
long and eventful history with all its tender 
memories of the past." 

The church, dedicated to the Virgin Mary, 
is probably on the site of an earlier building 
which was raised when Essex was converted 
to Christianity in the seventh century. St. 
Mary's Church is not mentioned in Domes- 
day Book, and the earliest reference to it 
is about 1108 when it was conveyed to the 
Prior and Canons of the Holy Trinity, 
founded near Aldgate by Queen Maud, thus 
linking it with some of the earliest East 
London history. At that time the Manor of 
Walthamstow had come into the possession 
of Ralph de Toni by his marriage with 
Alice, daughter of Judith, the niece of 
William the Conqueror. 


The Walthamstow Antiquarian Society 
will no doubt note that it is on the way to 
be forgotten, except in Poplar and Lime- 
house, that Walthamstow House was for- 
merly the seat of the numerous Wigram 
family of which Sir Robert of Blackwall 
and alongshore fame was the head. It was 
from this house that Sir Robert Wigram 
rode (armed in anxious times) with six of 
his sons to the great shipyard and dock at 
Blackwall, or to the city offices of his various 
enterprises ; and, returning, enjoyed the 
principal meal of the day at one or other 
of the great inns on the Woodford Road. 
Walthamstow House afterwards became a 
famous school under the successful headship 
of John Glennie Greig, LL.D., who died at 
Walthamstow, March 6, 1860, in his 58th 


A muser in and around St. Mary's, 
Walthamstow, will recall that the following 
inscription was formerly on a window of 
the south aisle of the church : 

" Christen people praye for the soule of Robert 
Thorne, citizen of London, with whose goods thys- 
chirche was newe edyfyd and fynyshed in the yeare 
of our Lord 1535." 

This was the Robert Thorne whose con- 
tribution towards the discovery of the 
North-East Passage is commemorated in 
Hakluyt's Voyages. 

The inscriptions on the tombs of St. Mary's 
churchyard include the following in relation 
to one who, as aforesaid, was prominent in? 
the history of Poplar ships and shipbuilding,, 
in ropemaking, in sailmaking, and in the 
brewing of strong beer : 

" To the Memory of Ann Pearce, who died' 
Feby. 22nd, 1822. at the house of Sir Robert 
Wigram, Bart., in whose family she lived forty- 
eight years and faithfully discharged her duty a& 
Nurse to his twenty-three children, of whom nine- 
teen survive her, and retain a grateful, and affec- 
tionate remembrance of her tender care and love- 
towards them." 

" Lord now lettest Thou Thy servant depart in> 
Peace, according to Thy Word." 



CONCORDANCE. After having had this won- 
derful book in use for many years I have- 
detected but one omission in it. I am sure 
that Mrs. Cowden Clarke would have herself 
wished this to be pointed out, that it might 
be included in the " Addenda " in future- 
reprints of the work. Under the word 
" chide " should have been recorded the 
line : 

But I can give the loser leave to chide. 

4 2 Hen. VI.,' III. i. 182. 

It is, however, registered under " loser." 
South Yarra, Melbourne. 

' KING JOHN,' IV. ii. What is the gener- 
ally accepted version of King John's remark 
to Hubert ? 

How oft the sight of means to do ill deeds 
Make deeds ill done. 

I find this in some of the modern editions,- 
as well as in that of 1695. This is neither 
sense nor grammar, though the meaning is 
clear enough. Surely " make " (of whieh 
the antecedent is "sight") is singular, and 



should be " makes." The version adopted 
by some modern editions is : 

How oft the sight of means to do ill deeds 
Makes ill deeds done. 

This represents the obvious meaning of 
'the words, and is quite good English, but is 
it generally accepted ? Is there, in short, 
any authority for it, or is it only a conjec- 
ture ? J. FOSTER 'PALMER. 

3 Oakley Street, S.W.3. 

'HAMLET' I. iv. 36-8 (12 S. iv. 211; v. 
4, 115 ; vi. 2) 

Throughout the seventy years of ' N. & Q.'s ' 
life all the emendations of the,above passage 
suggested in its pages have been devoted 
to the words "of a doubt." But why 
'should these words be looked on as a 
corruption ? Has it never been suggested 
that the corruption lies in the word " doth " 
or the word " all " ? May not one of these 

have been set up in place of the word " robs " 
or some other word indicating deprivation ? 
The passage would then read : 

The dram of eale 

Robs all the noble Substance of a doubt, 

The dram of eale 
Doth rob the noble Substance of a doubt. 

In other words " the smallest tincture of 
evil takes from the whole of the noble sub- 
stance any trace of doubt as to its general 
badness," which is just what Shakespeare 
has said of the Danes and of " particular 
men " in the passage preceding the crux. 
The difficulty in accepting MR. N. W. HILL'S 
suggestion of " lees " and " overdaub," is 
that the passage seems clumsy and has not 
the true Shakespearian ring about it. The 
suggestion offered above gives a better and 
more Shakespearian line. 

Ha wick. 


(See ante. p. 29.) 


Bull and Mouth 

[Bumper Tavern 



Camisar's .. 


Castle Tavern 
Castle Tavern 

Catherine Wheel 

Charing Cross 

North End, Hampstead . . 
See Spiller's Head. 
Holborn (on site of present 
Holborn Music Hall) 

St. Martin's-le-Grand 

St. James's Street 

Cheapside . . 

At corner of Russell Street 
and Bow Street. The 
site is now part of the 
widened thoroughfare 
leading westward to 
Covent Garden 

St. Martin's Lane 

Opposite The British, on the 
site of the present Union 
Club in Trafalgar Square 

Near Southampton Street, 
Covent Garden 

Covent Garden 

Paternoster Bow . . 
Near Gray's Inn Gate 

Bishopsgate Street Without 

St. Paul's Church yard . . 1754 




Corner of Spring Garden . . 1741 

Dobson's 'Hogarth,' 1907, p. 29. 

1749 'Tom Jones,' (xiii. 2); Shelley's 'Inns, 
p. 69 ; Wheatley's ' London,' i. 299 ; 
Cunningham, p. 88 ; Larwood, p. 62. 

Thornbury, ii. 217, 219 ; Wheatley's 

' London.' i. 300. 

1711 Spectator, Nos. 264, 358, 468. 
1798 The Times, Jan. 8. 
1713 Addison's Guardian, June 2. 
1730 Fielding's ' Temple Beau.' 
1749 ' Torn Jones,' xiii. 5 ; Wheatley's ' Hogarth's 
London,' p. 273 ; Hard castle, i. 109 

Wheatley's ' London,' i. 314. 

1711 The Postman, Oct. 11 ; MacMichael's 

' Charing Cross,' p. 180. 
1742 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 34. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., pp. 47, 52. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 213. 

Larwood, p. 487 ; MacMichael's ' Charing 

Cross,' p. 147. 

Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 218 ; Larwood, 
p. 130. 

Middlesex County Records [Sessions Books, 

Besant, p. 333. 

The Connoisseur, January. 

Morley's ' Baretti,' p. 101. 

Chatterton to his mother, May 6. 

Roach's L.P.P., p. 58 ; Wheatley's ' Lon- 
don,' i. 350 ; Besant, p. 315 ;Cunningham, 
p. 104; Sydney's 'XVIII. Century,* 
i. 186. 

Daily Advertiser, Nov. 7. 




Cheshire Cheese 


Chocolate House 
Cider Cellars 



Clifton's Tavern 

Coach and Horses 


Cock Tavern 
Cock Tavern 

Cock Tavern 
Cock Tavern 

Cock Inn . . 


Cock and Pye 

Cocoa Tree . . 

Wine Office Court, No. 6 

Fleet Street 
St. Paul's Churchyard . . 

Chocolate Bow, Blackheath 
Maiden Lane, Covent Gar- 
Cheapside, opposite King 


Villiers Street, York Build- 

Butcher Bow 
St. Clement Danes 

St. Martin's Lane 

Bow Street 

Fleet Street (formerly 
No. 201, facing Middle 
Temple Lane) 

Threadneedle Street 

at 72 Tothill Street, West- 

Leadenhall Street 

Suffolk Street, Haymarket 

Between Bathbone Place 
and Tottenham Court 

Pall Mall 

Cocoa Tree Club . . St. James's Street 


Cross Keys Tavern 

Cross Keys Inn . . 
Cross Keys Inn 

Crown Tavern 
Crown Tavern 

Crown Tavern 
Crown and Anchor 

Ked Lion Street, Clerken- 

Corner of Henrietta Street, 

Covent Garden 
St. Martin's Lane.. 
Smithfield, opposite Old 

Hick's Hall 

Behind Boj-al Exchange.. 
Parker's Lane 
Ludgate Hill, opposite 

Sword and Buckler Court 
Sherrard Street, St. James's 

Corner of Strand and Arun- 
del Street 

Czar's Head Tavern 
Crown and Sceptre 
Daniel's, or the 
Welsh Coff ee- house 

Opposite Allhallow's Church 
St. Martin's Lane 
Fleet Street 

Hare, i. 112 ; Cunningham, p. 116 ; Lap- 

wood, p. 383. 

1710 Addison's Taller, No. 224. 

1711 Addison's Spectator, Mar. 1. 

1714 Cunningham, p. 118 ; Wheatley's ' London,' 
i. 390 ; Dr. Badcliffe to Dr. Mead,- 
Aug. 3 ; Thornbury, i. 266 and 267. 

Thornbury, vi. 228. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 121 ; Besant, p. 333. 

1793 Boach's L.P.P., p. 56. 

1726 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 97. 

1763 BosweU's 'Johnson,' chap. xiv. 

1765 Beaven's ' James and Horace Smith,' 1899,- 

p. 11. 

1738 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p 189. 

1740 ' Complete Guide to London.' 

Sydney's XVIII. Century, i. 194. 

Hare, i. 105 ; Cunningham, p." 133 ?; 

Wheatley's ' London,' i. 434. 

Sydney's XVIII. Century, i. 194. 

Wheatley's ' London,' i. 434. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 46. 

Shellej's 'Inns,' p. 147. 

Sydney's XVIII. Century, i. 25; Larwood,. 

p. 382. 

1711 Addison's Spectator, Mar. 1. 

1716 Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 231. 

1752 Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 218. 

1756 J.Fielding's ' Duke of Newcastle's Police' 

Smollett's ' Adventures of an Atom.' 

1760 Climenson's E.M., ii. 217. 

1762 Gibbon's ' Autobiography,' Nov. 24. 

1771 Hickey, i. 320. 

1779 Birkbeck Hill, v. 386. 

1780 Stirling's A.Y.H., ii. 136, 160 ; BesanV 

p. 323 ; Larwood, p. 248 ; WheatleyV 
' London,' i. 439. 
1731 Middlesex County Becords, Sessions Books?- 

1742 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 148. 

1742 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 182. 

Hare, i. 199. 

Sydney's XVIII. Century, i. 194. 

Hare, i. 216. 
Larwood, p. 239. 

1741 Fielding's ' Champion Essays,' title-page. 

1730 Middlesex County Becords, Sessions Books,- 


1720 Strype's ' Stow's London.' 
1756 J. Fielding's ' Duke of Newcastle's Police.' ' 
1768 BosweU's ' Johnson,' ch. xxi. 

1781 Hickey, ii. 314. 

1783 Stirling's A.Y.H., ii. 160. 

1791 Clayden's ' Bogers,' p. 203 ; Wheatley's- 

' London,' i. 480 ; Larwood, p. 103 ; 

Dobspn's ' Hogarth,' 1907, p. 18 ? 

Cunningham, p. 148; Shelley's ' Inns, r 

p. 103 ; ' Life of Mrs. Cibber,' reprinted 5 . 

1887, p. 12. 

Hare, i. 367. 
1719 Larwood,' p. 103. 

Besant, p. 311. 



;Devil Tavern 

JDevil Tavern .. 

.Dick's _ M 


.Dolly's Chop-House 

Between Temple Bar and 
Middle Temple Gate (on 
site of Child's Bank) 

Devil Tavern Yard, Charing 

Fleet Street, south side, 

No. 8 

Adjoining Doctors' Com- 

Near Temple Bar. . 

Queen's Head Passage, 
Paternoster Row 

IDon Saltero's . Cheyne Walk, Chelsea . . 

"JDwarf Tavern 

"Elephant . . 

Chelsea Fields 
Hammersmith, between the 
Upper and Lower Malls 
Fenchurch Street . . 

'Exchange . . 
Eagle Tavern 
leathers Tavern 

Feathers Tavern 

Essex Street, Strand 
Covent Garden (previously 
Earl of Oxford's House 
and still so commemo- 

City Eoad 

Lambeth, opposite Somer- 
set House 

East corner of Leicester 
House, Leicester Fields 

1710 Swift's ' Journal,' Oct. 12. 
1729 Pope's ' Dunciad,' bk. i. 1. 325. 

1751 Hawkin's ' Life of Johnson,' 2nd ed., 1787, 

p. 285. 
1760 Stirlings A.Y.H., i. 137, 333. 

1766 Morley's ' Baretti,' p. 81. 

1781 Hickey, ii. 314, 350, 351 ; Wheatley 9 

' Hogarth's London,' pp. 273, 277 ; 

Hardcastle, i. 109 ; Cunningham, p. 154 ; 

Hare, i. 103 ; Wheatley's ' London, i. 497. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' pp. 58, 67. 

1709 Addison's Tatter, No. 86. 
1741 Gray to John Chute, 7 Sept. 

1752 Fielding's C.G.J., No. 2 ; Shelley's ' Inns, 

p. 197 ; Price's ' Marygold, p. J 
Hardcastle, i. 109 ; Cunningham, p. 156 ; 
Wheatley's ' London,' i. 503. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 57. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 59. 

1754 The Connoisseur, No. 19. 

1764 Dickins and Stan ton, p. 69. 

1767 Smollett's ' Humphry Clinker. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 59 ; Thornbury, i. 278 ; 

Hardcastle, i. 115 ; Shelley's ' Inns, p. 64; 

Hare, i. 158 ; Wheatley's ' London, 

i. 510 ; Cunningham, p. 158. t 

1726 De Saussure's ' Foreign View of England, 


1747 S. Fielding's ' Familiar Letters,' letter 41 ; 

Larwood, p. 94 ; Wheatley's ' London, 
i. 511 ; Hardcastle, i. 244 ; Cunningham, 
p. 158. 

Warwick Wroth, p. 221. 

1748 Robert Bell's ' James Thomson, 1855, 

p. 34 ; Larwood, p. 219. 

Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London, pp. 27d, 

281 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 43 ; Hare, 
i. 337 ; Dobson's ' Hogarth,' p. 201. 

Birkbeck Hill, iv. 253. 
1774 Besant, p. 333. 

Wive Bells Tavern . . St. Clement Danes 

Five Bells . . 
Jleeee Eating House 

XPlower Pot Inn 

Flying Horse Tavern 
Fountain (1) 

JFountain (2) 

Paradise Row, Chelsea . . 
Next the Ship Tavern, 

Charing Cross 
Adjoining the Jerusalem in 

Exchange Alley 
Close to Goodman's Fields 

Corner of Bishopsgate and 

Leadenhall Streets 

" Had a backdoor into 
St. Anne's Lane, and was 
situate near unto Lud- 
gate." Also known as 
the Mourning Bush 

1711 Addison's Tatter, No. 256. 

Cunningham, p. 171. 

1752 Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 136 ; Warwick Wroth, 
p. 247. 

1740 Godden's ' Fielding,' 1910, p. 1 15 ; Dobson s 

' Hogarth,' 1907, p. 88 ; Wheatley s 
' Hogarth's London,' p. 273. 

1722 MiddlesexCounty Records, Sessions Books, 

Blunt's ' Paradise Row,' 1906. 

1741 Macmichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 49. 

1748 Plan of Great Fire, R.E.A.C., ' N. & Q.,' 

Dec. 9, 1916, p. 461. 
1741 Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 25Q, 

Larwood, p. 376. 

1791 Gomme's G.M.L., pt. xv., p. 137. 

Strype's ' Stow's London ' ; Shelley 3 

'"inns,' p. 246. 

Maitland's ' History of London. 

(To be continued.} 




BLOOMSBURY. There has recently been 
Some correspondence in The Times relative 
to the derivation of this place-name. Mr. 
E. Williams attributed the origin to William 
de Blemont, brother of Gervase of Cornhill, 
who flourished about the year 1200 ; and 
incidentally remarked that Blemont was 
probably a French equivalent of Cornhill. 
However, another writer, Mr. S. O. Addy, 
showed that in that case the resulting name 
would have been Williamsbury, and not 
Bloomsbury ; and went on to point out that 
at Rotherham a prehistoric earth-work 
exists known as Blue Man's Bower, which 
tradition says gets its name from a blue, 
i.e., black, or coloured man of that locality. 
This fact was taken fully to corroborate 
Canon McClure's explanation of the first 
element in Bleomansbury the earliest 
Saxon form of the word as denoting the 
habitation in early times of a man of 
negroid characteristics. 

It may be added that the prototype of 
Bluebeard of the nursery tale must be 
regarded a; a person of Asiatic, or Moorish, 
physique, an Othello in fact. N. W. HILL. 

VIEW. (See 12 S. v. 335.) To the quotation 
from Hood, giving " swim " in the sense of 
giddiness, might be added, from a poet of 
the nineteenth century : 

The arena swims around him, 
where the word is transferred from the 
senses to the object of the senses (Byron, 
'Childe Harold,' IV. cxl. on the Dying 
Gladiator). AETHYIA. 

While the loss of any city church is to be 
regretted the impending demolition of this 
ugly building will probably pass unnoticed. 
Situated in Church Row, Fenchurch Street, 
it dates only from 1740, when it replaced 
from the designs of "Home" a pre-Refor- 
mation church that had escaped the Great 

The churchyard has been a meagre but 
pleasant oasis of trees and grass in a wilder- 
ness of brick and stone. The adjoining 
railway station, exceptionally unsightly, 
enhanced the charm of this tiny patch, and 
comparing the area of this churchyard with 
that shown in the eighteenth-century maps 
it is evident that it had been reduced con- 
siderably in all directions. I offer no in- 
formation as to the history and associations 
of the church ; it is apparently rather 
barren of memories compared with its 
neighbours, St. Olave, Hart Street, and St. 

Catherine's Cree Church. Its iconography 
also is not remarkable but for the fact that 
its most desirable representation, a small 
quarto " etched (engraved) by J. Skelton 
after J. Corney for the Architectural Series- 
of London Churches," identifies it as " St. 
Katherine, Coleman Street " [sic]. 


WHITTLESEY, CAMBS. 'Ref erring to a 
notice in the papers of a controversy over 
an oak chest containing the town's archives, 
the Society of Genealogists would like to- 
call attention to the fact that it holds a 
large collection of notes and copies from- 
Whittlesey Manor Court Rolls and other 
records. These are contained in fourteen' 
MS. books and some hundreds of loose- 
sheets, and much of the material is indexed: 
for easy reference. They are marked: 
" D. MSS. 242-257." 


The Society of Genealogists of London. 
5 Bloomsbury Square, W.C.l. 

on imported supplies of paper for book-print- 
ing during peace, and consequent shortage 
in war-time* appears to .be no latter-day 
problem to face and fight. 

Dr. Edmund Gibson, afterwards Arch- 
bishop of Canterbury, writing from Lambeth 
to Ralph Thoresby, historian of Leeds,, oat 
June 14, 1709 remarks: .* 

" While the treaty of peace was depending I could, 
not tell what to say to the contents of your last 
letter ; because of late very little paper has been, 
imported upon a prospect of peace ; and all print- 
ing, except of pamphlets, is at a stand tor the 
present. The thoughts of peace being now over, 
the question is, whether you will think tit to put 
your work to press, under the present inconvenienoe- 
of a scarcity and dearness of paper, or will wait till 
it pleases God to open a way to peace, and with. 

that a trade to France As' to the charge, when 

I know the number of sheets and plates, I can get 
it exactly calculated for you; but at present the 
printer need not be put to that trouble, if you- 
resolve to wait tor paper from France, which will* 
very much lower the charge, and be an encourage- 
ment to undertake it at your own expense." 

The coarser-fibred paper suitable for 
pamphlet-printing, like the looser-textured 
paper used in modern newspaper-printing, 
appears to have been a less restricted* 
market. J. PAUL DE CASTRO. 

1 Essex Court. Temple. 

FATHER OF THE CHAPEL. A curious link- 
that connects the modern Press with the 
Church is preserved in this quaint appella- 
tion. It appears that it originated in the 
mediaeval monastery, where it was customary,i92Q.j NOTES AND QUERIES. 


for all the transcribed, illustrated, and 
printed matter to be submitted for revision 
or correction to the Father Superior of the 
institution. A tetter from Mr. A. B. Mait- 
land, Father of The Times Chapel in that 
paper's issue of Dec. 1 last draws attention 
to the signification of the title in connection 
with a suit recently tried before Mr. Justice 
Darling, who remarked tha 1 ; the phrase was 
entirely new to him. See also ' Ency. Brit.' 
vol. v. p. 850, note to chapel. 

N. W. HILL. 

D.D. CANTAB. The late Bishop Jones, 
Suffragan of Lewes, was the first Divine to 
be created a Doctor of Divinity at Cam- 
bridge, without making the old statutory 
declaration that he held and rejected what 
.the Church of England holds and rejects. 



We must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

stated in The Times, May 6, 1919, that 
-certain relics of the exile of Napoleon III. 
had been sold by auction. 

" The Emperor, after the Franco-Prussian War, 
found sanctuary for a considerable period in Lan- 
-cnshire, as the guest of Lord Gerard. Some old 
.French furniture of the Louis XIV. and XV. 
periods has ever since been preserved by the Gerard 
family in the suite of rooms the Emperor occupied. 
Garswood Hall, the Lancashire seat of Lord and 
Lady Gerard, where this furniture of Napoleon III 
was stored, has been used as a military hospital 
during the war, and for the purposes of re-arrange- 
ment, after military occupation, Lord Gerard 
decided to sell the surplus appointments at the 
Hall. Most of the furniture used by the Emperor 
had by the lapse of time and storage, become 

It is surprising to read that Napoleon III. 
" found sanctuary for a considerable period 
in Lancashire " after the Franco -Prussian 
war. I have lived all my life in South 
Lancashire and never knew of this before ! 
Did the Emperor ever set foot in Lancashire 
fter 1870 ? I should like to know. 

As to the date of Louis Napoleon's visit 
to Garswood Hall, it was before the period 
of the Second Empire, not after. In a 
pamphlet on the Gerard Family, published 
at St. Helens in 1898, the author (Mr. J. 
Brockbank) says : 

It was in 1847 that the memorable visit of 
Napoleon to Garswood took place. A relic of this 
visit is still preserved at Garswood Hall with 

almost religous cara in the Napoleon room, i.e. the 
chamber in which he who a short time afterwards 
became Emperor of the French slept ; with all the 
costly hangings, carpets, pictures, decorations, etc. 
still remaining intact exactly as he left them. 
This argues that the high hopes of the then refugee 
were not the less shared by Sir John than by the 
man of destiny himself. Many are the anecdotes 
told of Sir John and his distinguished visitor, many 
of them apocryphal, others perhaps containing a 
modicum of truth." 

Sir John Gerard, Bt., Louis Napoleon's 
host, was born in 1804 and died in 1854. 
He was succeeded by his brother Sir 
Robert Gerard, who was created Baron 
Gerard of Bryn in 1876. There was thus 
no " Lord Gerard " till three years after 
the death of Napoleon III. Although Mr. 
Brockbank, in the passage just cited, gives 
the year of the visit, he mentions no month, 
or even season. I have recently looked 
through the file of The Liverpool Mercury 
for 1847, but failed to find any reference to 
the Prince's visit to Garswood Hall. News 
from St. Helens is frequently given and a 
dispute between Sir John Gerard and his 
servants is recorded. Can any of your 
readers supply the correct date ? 


315). It is commonly said of Ireland that 
there are " no snakes there " ! Is it a fact 
that there is "no furze " either ? I ask 
because, in the English boy's version of the 
lines sung on St. Stephen's day, the second 
line runs "On St. Stephen's day he was 
caught in the furze," and the following 
word in a bracket (lurch) seems here a very 
far-fetched explanation of the word " furs " 
in the version given by MB. MACSWEENEY. 

W. S. B. H. 

ST. MALO. Up to the end of the eighteenth 
century the Etats de Bretagne claimed the 
right of giving to a child of any seigneur 
whom they presented for baptism the name 
of Malo without prefix. The second son of 
the Marquis de Lameth was one of the last 
so presented. It does not appear at what 
date the custom originated, but probably as 
far back as the eleventh century. It would 
in any case appear that for many generations 
such was the name of the town which had 
eclipsed Aleth (now known as St. Servan) 
and Dinard, which was little more than a 
fishing village. 

When Malo was changed to St. Malo is a 
matter of conjecture. Hagiographs' and 
legend-writers have made assumptions, but 
produced no evidence from contemporary 
chroniclers. They seem to regard St. Malo, 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. MARCH, 192(7. 

St. Maclou, and St. Machutus (the last is 
preserved in the English Prayer Book 
Calendar) as one and the sa-me person, and 
concur in identifying him (or them) with a 
Welsh priest who in the sixth century 
escaped from his own country to avoid being 
made a bishop. He found safety at Aleth, 
and apparently overcame his scruples, and 
subsequently took the lead in national affairs 
and when elected bishop, claimed temporal 
as well as spiritual jurisdiction. L. G. R. 

one tell me the title and date of the first 
Clerical Directory or General Clergy List. 

I. F. 

MICHAEL DRUM took the degree of B.A. 
at Cambridge in 1524/5, and subsequently 
joined Cardinal Wolsey's College at Oxford, 
where he became B.A. in 1527, M. A. in 1530/1, 
and B.D. in 1540, in which year he suffered 
imprisonment at Oxford as a Lutheran. 
He was one of the Six Preachers in Canter- 
bury Cathedral in 1541 and 1543, and is said 
to have died a Catholic. (Strype, ' Mem.' 
i. 1, 569 ; ' Cranmer,' iv. 153, 154, 158, 159 ; 
' Parker ' i. 10 ; also Wood, ' Fasti ' (ed. 
Bliss), i. 72, 84, 85, 112; Cooper, ' Ath. 
Cantab.,' i. 83 ; Foster, ' Al. Ox.,' i. 426.) 

Is anything further known about him ? 

" Quis," author of this humorous and 
entertaining little book, 8vo, 159 pp., bound 
blue cloth boards, and published by James 
Blackwood, Paternoster Row, in 1858 ? 

"To H. C. K. [he says] these pages are 
inscribed as a memorial of the friendship 
and regard entertained for him by the 
author." " Quis " gives the initials " D.E." 
at the foot of his preface ; but who was he ? 
I have tried most, if not all, of the usual 
indexes and catalogues, but can get no 
information of this amusing " Quis." 


MENT). Where was this regiment serving 
under Harrison in the early summer of 1710 ? 
Was it one which marched into Douai on the 
surrender of that town to the Allies or not ? 
Many military books have been searched in 
vain for a definite answer to this simple 
question. The Sixth was reorganised in 
1710 after its hard times in Spain. Douai 
and Foot Scarpe surrendered June 27 of 
that year to Marlborough and Prince Eugene. 

Lediard, in his Life of the former, says only 
that one Saxon and five Dutch battalions 
entered the town as soon as the French were 
gone : that is, on June 29. The next day 
the two Commanders-in-chief and the 
Deputies of the States were received in 
Douai, and were welcomed by the University, 
Is it ascertainable whether an English regi- 
ment escorted them ? and whether that- 
regiment was the Sixth Foot ? 


possession a silver punch ladle. It un- 
questionably belonged to my maternal/ 
great grandfather, Capt. Gibson, who com- 
manded the Fox, a small frigate or gun boat 
which was lost in Nelson's attack on Santa. 

The ladle which bears no marks is in- 
scribed " Success to the Tartar," and has set 
in the bottom of it a Spanish dollar of the 
year 1773. Family tradition alleges that 
the dollar formed part of a treasure which: 
Capt. Gibson recovered for the British 
Government by running a blockade. 

But it was rarely in those days that a 
British ship ran a blockade, the boot was 
usually on the other foot. 

Tradition of this sort usually has some- 
foundation in fact, but is apt to be incorrect 
as to details. 

If any naval historian among your readers 
knows anything of the incident I should be^ 
greatly obliged. CHARLES R, HILES. 

15 John Street, Bedford Row, W.C. 

METHAM. Who were the parents of Anne- 
Metham, b. 1716, d. Aug. 6, 1751, bur. at 
Kneveton, co. Notts, wife of John Story of 
East Stoke, co. Notts, High Sheriff of that 
county, who d. Oct. 19, 1768. Her sort 
Philip, bapt. at East Stoke, Mar. 25, 1747,. 
was M.A. (1773) of Jesus College, Camb.,. 
and Rector of Walton on the Wolds, co_ 
Leics, from 1776. He d. May 25 and waa 
bur. June 1, 1819, at Lockingto-n, co. Leics, 
having m. Oct. 6, 1778, Martha, dau. of the 
Rev. Richard Stevens (M.A. 1749, St. John's 
College, Camb), Rector of Bottesford, co.. 
Leics, 1752-71. H. PIRIE-GORDON. 

Coningsbys are a well-known family in 
Hereford, but the above gentleman writes 
himself as of " Salopius." The Christian' 
name begins with an R and ends with an 
" s," and the three intermediate letters look- 
like " ion," buu they do not seem to fit any 
name I can g^ess at. The signature is on 
the title-page of an old black-letter edition^ 



of Chaucer, printed by Bonham it is the 
undated edition. But what interests me is 
some writing on the last page of the book. 
" Beaumont " and " Coningsby," " My deare 
sweet frend from henceforth and for ever." 
The writing is, I believe, early seventeenth 
century. Is it possible that this " Beau- 
mont " is the Beaumont, the dramatist ? 
Under the much flourished signature on the 
title-page " R s Coningesbius, Salopius." 
are the following words : " Domini 
mea nomen habet." The blanks represent 
words I cannot decipher. But the idea has 
arisen in my mind that possibly this Conings- 
by might have been about the Court of 
Elizabeth or James I. and become acquainted 
with the wits of the day and among them 
Beaumont, and formed a rather sentimental 
friendship with him of which this old book 
was a token. It is impossible to say who 
was the donor. The writing is as of one 
sitting dreaming of his " sweet deare 
frend," and almost unconsciously tracing 
his name. MARIA A. HOYER. 

any of your readers give any account of a 
burlesque copy of The Times that was pro- 
bably issued in the year 1862. It is a huge 
double sheet, and the folio page measures 
40 inches by 29 inches. The type is an 
exact but enlarged copy of the ordinary 
issue of The Times. Every feature of news 
is represented and burlesqued. In the line 
at the head of the sheet the number, date 
and price of the issue are given as follows : 
"No. 55,567. London. Everyday. 1962. 
Price Is." The printer's paragraph reads 
as follows : 

" Printed for the proprietors by Joseph William 
Last, of No. 3, Savoy Street, Strand, in the city of 
Westminster, and published by Baynton Rolt, at 
No. 5, Catherine Street, Strand. Everyday, 1962." 

Reference Library. 

William Brown Street, Liverpool. 

SUSSEX. Any information regarding this 
family would be much appreciated by the 
under-signed. A direct ancestor, John 
Crouch of Hastings married in 1696 Sarah 
Geary of the same place. I am anxious to 
know her parentage. She had a brother 
John Geary, who was a freeman of Hastings, 
and voted in 1721. Nathaniel, son of above 
John Crouch, married Ann Geary. How 
was she related to Sarah Geary ? There 
still remains in the family a linen chest 
which belonged to Ann Geary and her 
initials are carved on the front plinth at the 

base of the chest, " A." on the dexter corner 
and " G." on the sinister corner. There was 
also an Elizabeth Geary and a Susannah 
Geary. The latter is a witness to the will 
(dated 1775) of Susannah Crouch (nee 
Steevens), wife of John Crouch, another son 
of the above John. 

204, Hermon Hill, South Woodford. 

ROBERT JENNER, 1671-1723. Robert 
Jenner, Magdalen, 1678, B.A., 1691, M.A., 
1694, son of Rev. Robert Jenner, who held 
living of Churchlench, Worcestershire, 1663- 
1670, and in 1665 was presented to rectory 
of Lydiard Millicent, Wilts, by William 
Jenner of Marston. He died 1723, and his 
son Robert was curate-in-charge. I wish 
to ascertain what preferment the latter ob- 
tained. R. J. FYNMORE. 


BRIDGE FIELD. Josiah Southam, citizen 
and distiller of London, died in 1737, and 
was buried at Warwick. His widow, Sarah 
Southam (who died in 1752), lived in the 
" Parish of St. Andrew, Holborne." In 
November, 1741, she sold to John Smart, 
of the same parish, distiller, for the sum 
of 640/., 

"all that Messuage or Tenement called or known 
by the name or sign of the Pinner of Wakefield as 
the same is now divided into two houses also that 
Close of pasture ground commonly called or known 
by the name of Battell Bridge feild containing by 
Estimation nine acres be the same more or less," &c., 
in late occupation of John Gifford, vic- 
tualler. There were also four cottages on 
the west side of said messuage, in tenure or 
occupation of Jarvis Eagleston stables, 
orchards, gardens, &c. 

Was the Pinner of Wakefield an inn ? 
What was the origin of this name and that 
of Battell Bridge field, and where were the 
above situated ? HERBERT SOUTHAM. 

MINSTER. The extant registers of West- 
minster Abbey record only 399 marriages 
between 1655 (their commencement) and 
1875. Probably the finest genealogical 
work ever published, the late Col. Chester's 
copy of these registers (Harleian Society, 
vol. x.), annotates 370 of these 399 marriage 
entries. The remaining 29 entries appear 
to have baffled him. Undoubtedly the 
study of genealogy has made great progress 
since 1875, when Col. Chester's work 
appeared. Is it still impossible to com- 
plete it ? 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 a. vi. MARCH, 1920. 

Here are the first half-dozen unannotated 
marriage entries : 

1. May 29, 1656. George Whale and Lucy Poulton. 

2. Nov. 26, 1656. Matthew Gafford and Martha 


3. April 25, 1668. John Lyon and Elizabeth Paul. 

4. July 7, 1696. Mr. Joseph doling and Christ- 

abel Middleton. 

5. July 7, 1670. Mr. George Lane and Thomasin 


6. Aug. 17, 1673. John Tiliard and Margaret 


I hear that the London Genealogical 
Society and others have wonderful collec- 
tions of references to tho records. I appeal 
to them to see to what extent their indexes 
may be helpful in this matter of public 
interest. (Miss) G. FLEWKER. 

Ambleside, Letchworth. . 

UDNY. John Udny of Cultercullen and 
Newtyle, merchant and bailie of Kintore, 
M.P. for that burgh, 1681-2 and 1685-6, was 
third son of John Udny of that ilk, formerly 
of Belhelvie, by Isobel, dau. of Thomas 
Fraser, 2nd Laird of Strichen (October, 1612- 
March, 1645) and Christian, dau. of William 
Forbes, 8th Laird of Tolquhoun (1595-1602). 
John Udny had two daughters, Anne, 
married to John Sandilands of Countesswells, 
and Jean, married in 1714 to Charles Gordon 
of Buthlaw (April, 1712-December, 1751), 
who bought half of Newtyle from his wife's 
nephew John Sandilands. John Udny's 
wife was living when the Poll Book for 
Aberdeenshire was compiled 1695. Who 
was she ? H. PIBIE-GOBDON. 

20 Warwick Gardens. Kensington W.14. 

EDMUND DOZELL. In 1791 or thereabouts 
Edmund Dozell of London married Catherine 
Stevens Smith, of West Riding, Yorkshire, 
and Great Ormond Street, London. It is 
not known whether the marriage took place 
in Oxford or London. Should any of your 
readers come across such an entry in any 
register I should be glad to hear of it. or any 
items relating to the family of Dozell ? 


91 Brown Street, Salisbury. 

THE REV. JOHN STONES, M.A., vicar of 
Stoak and rector of Coddington (both in 
Cheshire) is generally spoken of as an anti- 
quary. There is in the church safe at 
Coddington a history of that parish in his 
handwriting. William Aldersey of Picton 
and Chester, merchant and alderman, sheriff 
of Chester, 1584, and mayor in 1595 and 
1614, who died 1616, is described in Bridge- 
man's ' Family of Aldersey ' as "a cele- 
brated Chester antiquary," and Hugh 
Aldersey of Aldersey discovered some years 

ago a manuscript giving some account of 
the mayors of Chester written by the said 
William Aldersey. But did either of these 
antiquaries publish any books or papers on 
Chester antiquities ? 

Coddington Rectory, Chester. 

five years ago I copied from a tombstone in 
the churchyard of Kinson, Dorset, the 
following curious epitaph : 

To the Memory of 

Robert Trotman, 

Late of Rond in the County of Wilts. 

who was barbarously murdered on 
the shore near Poole, the 25rh March, 1765. 
A little Tea, one leaf I did not steal, 
For guiltless bloodshed I to God appeal, 
Put Tea in one scale, human blood in tother, 
And think what tis to slay thy harmless brother. 
I wonder whether any reader of ' X. & Q.' 
knows anything of the facts of Robert 
Trotman' s death. ERNEST PAGE. 

1 King's Bench Walk, Temple, E.C.4. 

gold ring, which, according to a family 
tradition, was sent to John Campbell of 
Cawdor and was given by him to his son, 
my great-grandfather John Hooke Camp- 
bell (afterwards John Campbell-Hooke), 
Lyon King-of-Arms, 1754-95. 

The ring has an oval bezel, in which 
under a glass appears on a black ground 
a white rose with green leaves in enamel. 
Round the hoop of the ring runs the in- 
scription " Jacobus III., Br. Fr. Hiber. 
Rex : Extd : ob. 30 Dec., 1765 : ae. 77." 

Can any of your readers inform me 
whether other rings of this description exist, 
and, if so, what was their origin ? 


10 King's Bench Walk, Temple. 

Griffiths, clerk of Middlesex, Chiswick, was 
second son of John Griffiths of Erryd and had 
issue: (1) John, born 1754; (2) Charles, 
born 1756; (3) William, born 1757; 
(4) Frederick : (5) a daughter. Wanted 
further particulars and dates concerning 
John Griffiths, and also the name of his 
wife and particulars of the marriage. 

4, Leinster Gardens, W.2. 

POLLARD FAMILY. Among the various 
pedigrees of the family of Pollard given by 
Vivian and others, I note that of the Pollards 
of Langley, a branch from those of Way. 
The Visitation ends their line with George, 
set. 14 in 1620, John " executor of Father's 



will," Richard " living in 1659 and 1667," 
and " Ezebias." 

Pollards from one family or another went 
out to Barbados in the mid-seventeenth 
century, and their names occur in records 
there from that time till recently. I do 
not know if there are any now left. Among 
their wills recorded in that colony occur : 
1682, Richard Pollard; 1687, John; and 
1688, George Pollard. 

Can any reader kindly tell me whether 
there is a real connection or are these names 
only a curious coincidence ? 


TO QUEEN ELIZABETH. " Here is a great 
resort of wooers and controversy among 
lovers. Would to God the Queen had one 
and the rest honourably satisfied." The 
words were spoken in the Queen's gallery 
when she had around her the Imperial 
Ambassador, the Duke of Finland, and Lord 
Dudley. The only reference I can find to 
the quotation is in Bishop Creighton's ' Life 
of Queen Elizabeth,' and he gives no clue as 
to who originally put the words on record. 


PEWTER SNUFFERS. Under date Jan. 23, 
1667/8, Samuel Pepys writes : 

" She (Mrs. Turner) is either a very prodigal 
woman, or richer than she would be thought, by her 
buying of the best things, and laying out much 
money in new-fashioned pewter ; and, among other 
things, a new-fashioned case for a pair of snuffers 
which is very pretty ; but I could never have 
guessed what it \vas for, had I not seen the snuffers 
in it." 

As far as I can trace pewter snuffers are 
not referred to in any of the standard books 
on old pewter, neither is there any reference 
to pewter cases for holding snuffers, and 
I have therefore wondered whether Pepys 
meant that the " case " was made of pewter 
or whether it was of totally different metal, 

If the case Pepys saw was of pewter, 
possibly there are similar ones still in 
existence, but they are not recognised as 
receptacles for snuffers. Can any one shed 
any light on the matter ? 

20 Mount Avenue, Orrell, Bootle, Liverpool. 

THE HAWKHURST GANG. Local tradition 
has it that a mansion called Seacock's Heath, 
near Robertsbridge, in Sussex, was built by 
Arthur Gray, out of his ill-gotten gains as 
a member of the Hawkhurst gang. What 
was this gang, and when and where did it 
operate ? J. LANDFEAR LUCAS. 

Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey. 

Robertson's sonnet-anthology entitled ' The 
Golden Book of English Sonnets,' which was 
published by Harrap & Co. in 1913, price 
3s. Gd., I find at page 32 a sonnet by the 
so-called " Latin poet," William Alabaster 
(1565-1640) of which the title is ' Incarnatio 
est Maximum Dei Donum.' Can any 
reader inform me whether Alabaster was 
favourably regarded as a poet of distinction 
by his contemporaries, and also whether he 
wrote many sonnets besides the one above 
referred to ? He is not mentioned in Mr. 
Austin Dobson's ' Handbook of English 
Literature ' (2nd edition, 1880). 


Biographical particulars wanted of John 
Pearce who was editor of House and Home 
(a paper issued in support of better houses 
for the people) in 1879. Author of a series 
of ' Popular Biographies,' &c. Was born 
about 1843 and died at Sydenham in the 
early years of the twentieth century. 


Can any of your readers tell me the title 
and name of compiler of a collection of poems 
for children, called, I think, ' Poems and 
Hymns for Children,' published probably 
in the fifties or sixties. Among its contents 
were ' Little Dick Snappy,' ' The Pakenham 
(or Fakenham) Ghost ' and ' Little Drops of 
Water.' I had it in 1869, when it had no 
cover. It had little woodcuts, and was a 
small square book. C. S. FRY. 

Upton, Didcot, Berks. 

any of your correspondents happen to know 
when slates and slate pencils were introduced 
Papyrus, I am informed, was not used in 
Europe after 700 A.D., and presumably 
something, and that decidedly inexpensive, 
took the place in schools of this, and the 
wax tablets used in the days of the Roman 
Empire. H. G. W. HERRON. 

CAMBRIDGE. In Cooper's ' Ath. Cantabri- 
giensies ' Hugh Latimer was such. Is there 
such an officer now, and what is his office ? 


THORINGTON. Has any pedigree been 
published of the family of Thorington or is 
anything known of a family of that -name ? 

Denna Hall, Burton Point, Birkenhead. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. MARCH, 1920. 

Can any reader tell me where there is a 
copy of the very rare fifth edition of the 
above ? C. C. LACAITA. 

Selham House, Petworth. 

MARY JONES. There was issued in Oxford, 
1750, a volume of Miscellanies in Prose and 
Verse by the aforesaid lady. Impartable 
information about her will oblige. 


Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon. 

ALFIERI'S TUTOR, 1766. Who was the 
English Catholic tutor under whose escort 
Vittorio Alfieri visited France, England, 
and Holland ? HARMATOPEGOS. 

RICHARD DUDLEY, D.D. ; principal of St. 
Mary Hall, Oxford, in 1502, and prebendary 
of London, Lincoln, and York ; rector of 
Walton-on-the-Hill, West Derby, Lanes, 
1506-28 ; died 1536. Any information of 
his ancestry or possible descendants would 
be appreciated. C. B. A. 

CURIOUS SURNAMES. The three following 
instances are as notable as I have ever met 
with, all from this city : Gotobed, Strongith- 
arm, and Fullolove. Are such known 
elsewhere ? J. B. McGovERN. 

St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester. 

Can any one give me information as to the 
authorship of ' A Letter from the King to 
his People,' written I presume on . the 
accession of George IV. in 1820, and 
attributed to Wasborough, and again to 
J. W. Croker. Who was Wasborough ? 


1. Can any of your readers tell me the author of 
the following lines ? 

In the years fled, 
Lips that are dead 
Sang me that song. 


2. When to the flowers so beautiful the Father 

gave a name, 
Back came a little blue-eyed one all timidly it 

And standing at its Father's feet, and gazing in His 

It said in low and trembling tones, which fear made 

come apace, 
" Dear God ! the name Thou gavest me, alas ! 

I have forgot." 

And God looked down with kindliness, and said, 
"Forget me not ! " 


[This question appeared at 12 S. i. 228, but no 
reply was received.] 

(12 S. v. 316.) 

IN further description of this picture I send 
the following details : 

In the oil painting, the left figure has, on 
his right leg, above the knee, a pair of tongs 
and a poker, crossed ; below, a bell : on his 
left leg, above the knee, two fish ; below a 
pair of bellows. The central figure has 
cross-gartered pantaloons. The right figure 
has, on his right leg, above the knee, a grid- 
iron ; below, a mug with a lid : on his left 
leg, above the knee, three playing-cards, 
ace of clubs, five of spades, and three of 
diamonds. He is holding a fiddle and bow 
in his right hand, and a glass half-full of 
liquor in his left hand. 

In the engraving, the left figure has, on 
his right leg, above the knee, apparently, 
two sausages ; below, two fish : on his left 
leg, above the knee, two fish, looking right 
and left ; below, apparently, two crossed 
sausages. The central figure has diagonal- 
lined pantaloons. The right figure has, on 
his right leg, above the knee, a mug. He is 
holding a metallic cup, and he is wearing 
heavily-rimmed spectacles. 

Perhaps these details may interest, and 
draw observations, from some of your 
readers, whose attention I would draw 
particularly to the three cards. 


4 Park Street, W.I. 

The correspondent to ' N. & Q.' who found 
the old Dutch print referred to as above has, 
I would suggest, got a variant of the 
" Picture of We Three " referred to by 
Shakespeare in ' Twelfth Night,' Act II. 
sc. iii. 17-21 (Furness,' Variorum Shaks,' 
p. 108) as follows : 

Enter CLOWNE. 

And. Heere conies the foole yfaith. 

Clo. How now my hearts. Did you never see 
the Picture of we three ? 

To. Welcome asse, now let's have a catch. 

The notes in Furness' s edition are as 
follows : 

" Henley : An allusion to an old print, some- 
times pasted on the wall of a country ale-house, 
representing two, but under which the spectator 
reads : ' We three are asses.' Douce : The original 
picture seems to have been two fools. Thus in 
Shirley's ' The Bird in a Cage,' Morello says : 
' We be three of old, without exception to your 
lordship, only with this difference, I am the 



-wisest fool.' Sometimes, as Henley has stated, it 
was two asses. Thus, in Beaumont and Fletcher's 
- 1 Queen of Corinth,' III. i. : 

Neanthes. He is another ass, he says ; I 
fbelieve him. 

Uncle. We be three, heroical prince. 

Neanthes. Nay then, we must have the picture 
of 'em, and the word (motto) nos sumus. 
Halliwell : The sign is still preserved in England, 
where a few taverns still exist the sign consisting 
of two grotesque or idiotic heads, and the inscrip- 
tion : ' We three loggerheads be.' 
Plaine home-spun stuffe shall now proceed from 

3Iuch like unto the Picture of Wee Three. 

Taylor's ' Farewell to the Tower-Bottles,' 1622. 
The marginal note to this is : ' The picture of two 
fooles, and the third looking on, I doe fitly com- 

?are with the two black bottles and myself e.' 
The Clown referred to the picture of three fools, 
.and Sir Toby retaliated by referring to the picture 
of three asses. Ed.)" 

The conceit which this picture embodies 
has been used, so I believe, in modern 
instances, and another phrase of Shake- 
speare's has been associated with it, namely, 
the line " When we shall three meet again." 
The interesting fact about the Dutch 
picture referred to in ' N. & Q.' is that it is 
.a "painting of three grotesque figures," 
and that the onlooker is supposed to be the 
fourth fool. Hence the inscription " We 
Four Fools," and the Latin inscription 
"" Gaudemus, quia te praesente, stulti qua- 

Howth, co. Dublin. 

This painting belongs to a class which at 
one time was not uncommon. 

Sir Andrew. Hera comes the fool, i' faith. 

Enter CLOWN. 

Cloion. How now, my hearts ! did you never 
-see the picture of ' We Three ' ? 
Sir Toby. Welcome, ass. 

' Twelfth Night,' Act II., sc. iii. 

"We have a similar reference in Fletcher's 
' The Queen of Corinth ' : 

Sosicles. Thou a gentleman ? thou an ass. 

Neanthes. He is ne'er the farther from being 
& gentleman, I assure you. 

Tutor. May it please your grace, I am another. 

Neanthes. He is another ass, he says ; I 
Relieve him. 

Uncle. We be three, heroical prince. 

Neanthes. Nay, then, we must have the 
picture of 'em, and the word nos sumus. 

Act III., sc. i. 


SIB LEES KNOWLES'S picture seems to be 
& variant of a very ancient jest. Compare 
* Twelfth Night,' II. iii. 16 : 

Cloum (to Sir Toby Belch and Sir Andrew 
Ague-cheek). How now, my hearts ? Did you 
never see the picture of we three ? 

Malone's note on this was : 

" I believe Shakespeare had in his thoughts a 
common sign, in which two wooden heads (or 
two fools drinking) are exhibited, with this in- 
scription under it : ' We three loggerheads be.' 
The spectator or reader is supposed to make the 

Mr. Morton Luce points out that Sir 
Toby's retort : " Welcome, ass," refers to 
" the well-known picture of two donkeys' 
heads, or donkeys," which bore the inscrip- 
tion " We three asses be." Halliwell quotes 
John Taylor, the Water-Poet's ' Farewell to 
the Tower Bottles,' 1622 : 

Plaine home-spun stuffe shall now proceed from 

Much like unto the picture of Wee Three. 

On this the marginal note is 

" The picture of two fooles, and the third 
looking on, I doe fitly compare with the two 
blacke bottles and my selfe." 

In the 'Life of Richard Wilson,' by T. 
Wright, published in 1824, it is recorded that 
this eminent artist passed the last years of 
his life in North Wales, at Mould, and 
" with his relation, the late Mrs. Catherine 
Jones, of Colomondie, near the village of 
Llanverris, now called Loggerheads, a few 
miles from Mould." The author visited the 
district and further records of Loggerheads 

" This singular appellation owes its origin to 
the subject of the sign painted by Wilson for the 
village ale-house, and upon which are exhibited 
the heads of two very jolly-looking fellows, 
grinning and staring out of the picture towards 
the spectator ; underneath are written, in very 
legible characters, the words : ' We three Logger- 
heads be.' The painting retains its elevated 
situation to this day, though, perhaps, little of the 
original colour may remain, it having been more 
than once retouched since Wilson's time." 


In the Irving Edition of Shakespeare 
Mr. Arthur Symon comments on this passage 
as follows : 

" An allusion to a common old sign representing 
two fools or loggerheads, under which was 
inscribed : ' We three Loggerheads be,' the 
spectator being the third. There is at the 
present day [1890] a public-bouse in Upper Bed 
Cross Street, Leicester, which has the same figure 
and device on its sign-board. Dekker (' The 
Gull's Hornbook,' ch. vi., ' How a Gallant should 
Behave Himself in a Playhouse ') says, speaking 
of the fops whose fancy it was to sit on the stage : 
' Assure yourself by continual residence, you are 
the first and principal man in election to begin 
the number of " We three." ' 


Home House, Kell's Lane, Low Fell, Gateshead. 

[ST. SWITHIN also thanked for reply.] 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [ 12 s. vi. MARCH. 1920. 


(12 S. ii. 3, 43. 75, 84, 122, i!29, 151, 163, 
191, 204, 229, 243, 272, 282, 311, 324, 
353, 364, 391, 402, 431, 443, 473, 482, 
512, 524 ; iii. 11,46, 71, 103,132, 190, 217, 
234,267, 304 ; v. 270; vi. 17, 42.) 

Col. Descury's Regiment of Foot 
(12 S. ii. 525.) 

IN a footnote to the list of Col. Descury's 
Regiment of Foot, the 32nd (now D.C.L.I.), 
COL. LESLIE says of the second lieutenants 
" (8) Probably should be ensign." I venture 
to suggest that there were no ensigns at the 
time in this regiment, which, raised as a 
regiment of Marines in 1702, till disbanded 
1713, was revived as a regiment of Foot two 
years later, but still retained the rank of 
second lieutenants which was (otherwise) 
only usual in Fusilier and Marine regiments. 
(Curiously enough of the other two Marine 
regiments similarly treated the 30th Foot 
retained its second lieutenants, but the 
31st had ensigns appointed to it in 1715.) 

It would be going too far to ask if the 
32nd at some period of its career was a 
Fusilier regiment, and yet in the Irish 
as well as the English Commission Registers 
for 1735, there is an instance of a commission 
of second lieutenant being granted in " that 
regiment of Fusiliers of which Thomas 
Paget is colonel " ; and in the Eng. C. R. 
are similar grants in Col. Simon Descury's 
regiment of Fuziliers in 1740, and in Husk's 
Fuziliers in 1743. In the latter year Henry 
Skelton was made colonel and captain of 
" Our regiment of Fuziliers," in the room 
of John Huske ; and in 1745 William 
Douglas was made colonel of and captain of 
a company " in the regiment of Fuziliers, 
whereof Brig. -Gen. Henry Skelton was late 
colonel." There were also other similar 
instances, but, as in the great majority of 
cases commissions were granted in the 
same regiment given variously as Paget' s, 
Descury's, Huske's, Skelton's, or Douglas' 
regiment of Foot, it may well be that the 
term Fusilier was wrongly and in ignorance 
applied to this regiment by some of the 
War Office clerks who drafted the com- 
missions. The change from second lieu- 
tenant to ensign appears to have taken place 
in 1748, and in the MS. Army List, 1752, 
in the Record Office, all are styled ensigns. 

The senior captain, Melchior Guy Dickens, 
was promoted direct to lieutenant -colonel of 
the newly raised 47th Foot, Feb. 6, 1740-1, 
but retired from the service Feb. 28, 1750-1. 

He may have been one of those Germans; 
from Hanover Vho followed George I. to* 
England. He was a cornet in Col. Charles 
La Bouchetiere's newly raised regiment of 
dragoons, Feb. 16, 1715-16, until it was dis- 
banded in June, 1717, and its officers placed 
on half-pay, from which he was promoted 
to captain in the 32nd Foot in Ireland, 
Aug. 9, 1717. He was the Col. Guy Dickens 
who in. (secondly) Miss Tracey, April 17,. 
1762 (Gent. Mag., p. 194). On May 31, 176c 
Melchior Guy Dickens, Esq., was granted 1 
an annual pension of 500Z. for thirty-one 
years on the Irish Establishment. This was 
for his diplomatic services for he had beer* 
Secretary of Embassy to Prussia and 
Charge d'Affaires there, August, 1730, to 
August, 1740, Minister to Prussia, August,. 
1740, to January, 1741, to Sweden, January.,. 
1742, to July, 1749, and to Russia, July, 
1749, to 1751, and again 1753 to April, 1755, 
His second son, Gustavus Guy Dickens, 
named after the King of Sweden, beoause- 
born during his mission there, matric. from. 
Ch. Ch., Oxford, Feb. 16, 1748/9, aged 17 ; 
B.A., 1752, as son of Melchior of St. Giles s, 
London, arm. (Foster. 'Alumni, Oxon.% 
He was made cornet 6th Inniskillmg 
Dragoons, Nov. 25, 1754, and lieutenant in. 
the same, Sept. 2, 1756, served in Germany 
in 1761 ; promoted to lieutenant and captain, 
3rd Foot Guards, May 1, 1761 ; captain and) 
lieutenant-colonol therein, Feb. 22, 1775 ;. 
senior on the lis<t. in 1784 ; brevet -colonel, 
May 16, 1782 ; second major, Oct. 20, 1784 ;. 
first major, April 18, 1786; lieutenant- 
colonel of the regiment, Sept. 13, 1791, ti 
he retired or more probably died shortly 
before July 31, 1793 ; major- general, April 28,. 

Among " the following gentlemen who* 
kissed the Queen's hand on their several 
promotions in her Majesty's household ' 
on March 13, 1783, is the name of " Gustavus 
Guy Dickens, Esq., gent, usher of the privy 
chamber " (200Z. and board wages), to which, 
he was promoted from one of the three gent, 
ushers' daily waiters (150?., which he had! 
held from 1765). He filled this post until 
1793, when presumably he died. The Rev. 
Frederick William Guy Dickens, who d. 
Oct. 14, 1779, was his elder brother. He- 
matric. at the same College and date, 
aged 20; barrister-at-law, Lincoln's Inn, 
1753. I cannot trace any others of the- 

Charles Campbell, captain in Harrisons 
15th Foot (ibid. 324) was made ensign in, the 
12th Foot, Sept. 2, 1726 (Dalton's ' George- 
the First's Army,' vol. ii., p. 294, where the- 



foot-note, " Out before 1727," is misleading, 
;as his commission as such was renewed by 
George II. on June 20, 1727, and the note 
.should have been " Out of the regiment 
before 1729," as he was " preferred to a 
Colours in the (3rd) Foot Guards, Dec. 25, 
1728," being thence transferred to Harrison's 
on April 5, 1733). He was identical with 
the Charles Campbell said (12 S. iii. 439) 
to have been made lieutenant-colonel of 
Robinson's 2nd Marines (no date, but, oi 
course, some time in 1741, at Carthagena), 
and apparently in succession to Francis (sic] 
!Leighton, said to have been made lieutenant- 
colonel thereof, April 24, 1741. Now the 
Com. Regs, in Record Office correct several 
errors by giving the commission of John 
Leighton to be lieutenant-colonel of Robin- 
son's Marine regiment of Foot on Oct. 9, 
1741, which he held until it was disbanded 
in 1748 so there was no place for any one 
after him. I suggest that Campbell was 
for a few weeks in April and May, 1741, 
major of Robinson's, basing this upon the 
MS. additions " maj. 45, L.-C. 61," placed 
against his name in a copy of the Army List 
1740, kindly lent me by a correspondent ; 
and supported by the statement in Gent. 
Mag., 1741, p. 443, that Campbell was 
promoted " Lt-Col. to the Americans " 
(i.e., Gooch's 61st Foot). This would be 
probably in May, 1741. Foster's ' Scots M.Ps.' 
gives him as Capt. Charles Campbell of 
Auchnacrieve, M.P. for Argyllshire, March, 
1736, until his death " shortly before 
Feb. 5, 1742 " (an error simply made because 
his successor was elected that date, a new 
writ having been ordered Jan. 14), and 
identifies him as second son of Hon. John 
Campbell of Mamore, and next brother to 
John (aft.) 4th Duke of Argyll, and says he 
d. unm. Jan., 1742 (an error also given 
in the ' Annals of Europe,' and The London 
Magazine). I wonder what Douglas or 
Wood's ' Peerage of Scotland ' says about 
him. Burke' s ' Peerage ' differs from 
Foster's by giving (wrongly, I think), 
" Charles, M.P. for co. Argyll, in 1741 ; d. the 
same year, unm," as third son, and " Neil, 
d. unm.," as fourth son of Archibald, 9th 
Earl of Argyll, and therefore brothers of the 
1st Duke, while Debrett's ' Peerage,' 1731, 
gives " Charles Neil " as the second son of 
John of Mamore. A ' Return of the Four 
Eldest Regts., Kingston, Jamaica, Dec. 5, 
1741 ' (in the Record Office), settles the 
matter by the statement : " Col. Fraser's 
Regt. Lt.-Col. Campbell died in Jamaica, 
Oct. 8, 1741, succd. by Lt.-Col. Leighton of 
Gooch's." William Campbell (12 S. iii. 71) 

would, apparently, be the third brother 
to serve in the army, the eldest one being 
the John Campbell mentioned m 12 S. 
ii. 402. W. R. WILLIAMS. 

vi. 38). The following is taken from the 
' Encyclopaedia Britannica ' under article 
" Allestree," or Allestry, Richard (1619- 
1681).' : 

" A share in the composition, if not the sole 
authorship, of the books published under the 
name of the author of the ' Whole Duty of Man ' 
has been attributed to Allestree (Nichols's 
' Anecdotes,' ii. 603), and the tendency of modern 
criticism is to regard him as the author. His 
lectures, with which he was dissatisfied, were not 

For Allestree' s authorship of the ' Whole 
Duty of Man,' see Rev. F. Barham, Journal 
of Sacred Literature, July, 1864, and C. E. 
Doble's articles in The Academy, November, 
1884. ' ( $(. ', ARCHIBALD SPABKE. 

There is an article on this and kindred 
books in The Bibliographer, vol. ii. (1882), 
page 73, by the late Edward Solly, F.R.S., 
in which after weighing the claims of those 
to whom the authorship has been ascribed, 
he thinks the probability is that it was 
written by Richard Sterne, Archbishop of 
York (1596-1683). There is a further 
paper on the book at page 94 by John E. 
Bailey, F.S.A., of Manchester. 



The author of this book, and of the other 
ones referred to by your querist, has 
generally been considered to have been Lady 
Dorothy Pakington (d. 1679). It is now 
however thought that this lady was only a 
copyist and not the author. The ' D.N.B.' 
states that these works were probably 
written bv the Rev. Richd. Allestree 
(1619-81). "See articles in the 'D.N.B. on 
' Lady Packington ' and ' Richd. Allestree,' 
and the authorities referred to therein. 


In the issue of The Yorkshire Weekly Post 
of Feb. 28, Mr. J. S. Fletcher, in his con- 
cluding chapter on ' Yorkshire Worthies,' 
writes in respect of Obadiah Walker as 
follows : 

' He was one of the many to whom the authorship 
of the highly popular ' Whole Duty of Man ' was 
attributed ; Thomas Hearne, the Oxford antiquary, 
has a pood deal to say on this point in relation to 
both Obadiah Walker and his friend Abraham 
Woodhead : nowadays it is pretty well established 
that the real author was neither Walker nor 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. MARCH, 1920. 

Woodhead, nor Henry Mure, nor Lady Pakington 
nor Archbishop .Sterne, but was, without doubt, 
Allestree. who in that case should be more cele- 
brated than he is, seeing that his book for some 
fifty or sixty years was the most popular volume 
in England." 


In an inventory I jotted down the name 
S. Puffendorf as the reputed author of this 
better known and other possibly anony- 
mously published religious works. Though 
I have not the original memorandum extract 
by me nor gleam of particular, is it a correct 
guess at truth ? ANEURIN WILLIAMS. 

Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon. 

(12 S. iii. 334). Mrs. Frances Rose-Troup 
has devoted Appendix E of her most 
valuable book, ' The Western Rebellion of 
1549,' to William Harper, chaplain to Queen 
Katharine Parr, and, from 1549 to his 
resignation in 1558, rector of Sampford 
Courtenay. She thinks it "quite possible " 
that he is to be identified with the Vicar of 

J. J. KLEINSCHMIDT (12 S. v. 295). 
According to Bryan's ' Dictionary of Painters 
and Engravers ' (edit, by Dr. G. C. William- 
son), the German engraver of the above 
name nourished at Augsburg about 1700, 
and engraved the frontispiece and several of 
the plates for a folio volume, ' Representatio 
Belli ob Successionem in Regno Hispanico,' 
and some plates of horsemen, after Georg 
Philipp Rugendas. EDWARD BENSLY. 

[MB. ARCHIBALD SPABKE and H. K.also thanked 
for replies.] 

MONKSHOOD (12 S. vi. 13). The inquiry 
concerning the Latin name of Monks- 
hood, is readily answered. Aconitum is 
used by Virgin and Pliny for a poisonous 
plant presumably that now in question. 
The name comes from the Greek, but is not 
the same plant as that so named by Theo- 
phrastus. Napellus is mediaeval Latin, 
meaning a little turnip, derived from Napus. 
We have therefore two nouns in apposition, 
not a noun and adjective. When, as in 
this case, a pre-Linnean generic name is 
attached as a specific name to a generic 
epithet, a capital initial is used by botanists 
to mark that usage. 


Linnean Society, Burlington House, W.I. 

According to Sowerby's ' English Botany,' 
vol. i., 1863, p. 65, " the specific name 
Napellus signifies a little turnip, in allusion 
to the shape of the roots." J. ARDAGH. 

The name Aconitum Napellus might be- 
translated " the little-turnip aconite." 
Napellus is not an adjective : it is said to be- 
a diminutive of napus (a turnip). See- 
' Flowers of the Field,' by the late Rev. C. A, 
Johns, rewritten by G. S. Boulger, Professor 
of Botany, City of London College, 1899. 

C. A. COOK. 
Sullingstead, Hascombe, Godalming. 

Napellus is a substantive, the diminutive 
of napus, a kind of turnip. In Parkinson's 
' Paradisus ' (1629), Aconitum Napellus is 
styled Napellus verus flore cceruleo. The 
name is accounted for as follows : 

" The rootes are brownish on the outside and 
white within, somewhat bigge and round above 
and small downwards, somewhat like unto a small 
short carrot roote, sometimes two being joyned 
at the head together. But the name Napellua 
anciently given unto it, doth show they referred 
the forme of the roote unto a small Turnep." 


[MB. CHAS. HAUL CBOCCH also thanked for 

BRAMBLE (12 S. vi. 10.) -According to 
' Family Names and their Story,' by S. 
Baring-Gould, 1910, p. 182, sub : " Place- 
Names," " Broomhall has become Brammel' 
and then has degenerated to Bramble." 
There are several Broomhalls, one is a 
hamlet of Sheffield, one a village in the- 
parish of Wrenbury, Cheshire and another 
a village in the parish of Longfogan, Scot- 
land, while there is an estate of the name in 
the parish of Dunfermline, also Scotland. 

204 Hennon Hill, South Woodford. 

vi. 14). The author of ' Philochristus ' is 
Dr. Edwin A. Abbott, formerly head master 
of the City of London School. The author 
of " Ecce Homo" was Sir John Seeley. 
formerly Professor of Modern History at 
Cambridge. AFRANIA. 

CAPT. J. W. CARLETON (12 S. vi. 13). 
I am not aware that any life of this gentleman' 
has ever been written. He was at one time 
an officer in the 2nd Dragoon Guards, and 
under the sobriquets of "Craven"' and 
"Sylvanus" was a constant contributor to- 
sporting literature. Quite his best and 
most interesting book now out of print 
and scarce is ' The Bye-Lanes and Downs 
of England.' He also wrote ' Rambles in 
Sweden and Gottland, with Etchings by 
the Wayside,' as well as the book mentioned^ 
by MR. KENNY. Bell's Life of June 8, 1856 


devoted three lines to the mention of his 
death, but, strange to say, it seems to have 
passed unnoticed by The Sporting Magazine 
of the following month. 


WALVEIN FAMILY (12 S. vi. 14). MB. 
WALLIS-TAYLER should refer to Burke' s 
' Landed Gentry,' 1853, wherein, under the 
heading of Walwyn of Longworth, he 
would find the lineage of this ancient family. 
It is said to be descended from the son of 
King Arthur. Several ancient works on 
genealogy are referred to. 


The name looks like a continental version 
of the English surname Walwyn or Walwin, 
wide-spread in Herefordshire. The Walwins 
of Much Marcle in that county were ar- 
migerous and bore anciently Gules, a bend 
ermine, and at a later date quartered it 
with gules, a bend sinister ermine in chief 
a talbot passant or, within a bordure of the 
second. Thev obtained lands at the con- 
quest, of Brecknock ; and Longworth temp. 
Henry IV. There was also a family of that 
name at Witham in Sussex, with almost 
identical arms, as well as others 


LOBD BOWEN (12 S. vi. 41). The refer- 
ence to Daniel in the lions' den, made in 
the course of an after-dinner speech when 
Mr. Justice Charles was entertained by the 
Western Circuit, will be found in ' Pie-. 
Powder ' by a Circuit Tramp (John Murray, 
1911), p. 27. J. PAUL DE CASTBO. 

v. 291, ; vi. 23). There is an article in the 
International Musical Society's Quarterly 
Magazine, seventh year (1905-6) in which 
this anthem is discussed at considerable 
length. I think it contains all that is 
known about both words and music. 

G. E. P. A. 

" BOCASE " TREE (12 S. vi. 15). Mr. 
H. A. Evans in his interesting ' Highways 
and Byways of Northamptonshire ' (p. 93) 
refers to " the stone which marks the spot 
where once grew the ' Bocase ' Tree .... a 
word which a writer in ' N. & Q.' connects 
with the old French bochasse, a wild chest- 
nut." Mr. Evans adds in a footnote that 
Prof. Montagu Burrows in his ' Family of 
Brocas ' suggests that " Bocase " may be a 
corruption of " Brocas " and that the Brocas 
Tree got its name from its having been a 

favourite meet of the Royal Buckhounds of 
which the Brocas family were the hereditary 
masters. Mr. Evans also states that in> 
Northants Notes and Queries (N.S. vol. ii.)< 
the theory is advanced that the tree marked! 
the spot where the foresters and keepers 
assembled for archery practice, the long, 
narrow field within a short distance being 
still known as " the Bowcast." 

10 Holmewood Road, Brixton Hill, S.W.2. 

vi. 9). 4. Both thought and expression, 
are older than Napoleon's day. W. F. H.- 
King, in his ' Dictionary of Classical and 
Foreign Quotations,' 3rd ed., p. 61, under- 
No. 470, " Deos fortioribus adesse "(Taci- 
tus, 'Hist.,' iv. 17), cites from Bussy 
Rabutin, ' Correspondances,' Paris, 1858 r 
vol. iii., p. 393, in a letter of Oct. 18, 
1677 : " Dieu est d' ordinaire pour les gros- 
escadrons contre les petits," and fronx 
Voltaire, ' Ep. a M. le Riche,' Feb. 6,. 
1770 : 

" Le nombre des sages sera toujours petit. Ik' 
est vrai qu'il est augment^ ; mais ce n'est rien en 
comparaison des sots, et par malheur on dit que- 
Dieu est toujours pour les gros bataillons." 

12. In the Tenth Series of ' N. & Q.,' 
vol. iii., p. 195, there appeared, under the- 
heading ' Statutes of Merton,' a communica- 
tion signed LLYD, in answer to the query 
whether the correct form of the famous 
saying was " Nolumus leges Anglise mutare " 
or "... .mutari." According to LLYD'S- 
statement : 

*' the words are in the ninth chapter of 20 Henry III; 
commonly called the Statute of Merton, and are 
printed in the ' Revised Statutes ' thus : ' & omnes 
Comites et Barones una voce responderunt q'd 
nolunt leges Anglie mutare que usitate sunt et 
approbate.' " 

He added that the words are the same, with- 
immaterial differences, in Ruff head's- 
' Statutes at Large.' 

17. A version of this story, differing in 
most of the details, is found in the ' Life of 
Hugh Latimer ' in ' Abel Redevivus ' (sic), 
the collection of short biographies edited by 
Thomas Fuller : 

" At New Year's tide the bishops used to present 
the king with a New Year's gift ; and Bishop- 
Latimer, amongst the rest, presented him with a- 
New Testament, wrapped up in a napkin, with 
this poesy about it: ' Fornicatores et adulteros- 
indinabit Dominus.' " 
The authority is John Foxe, 

21. See p. 393 of King's book referred to- 
above. King in a list of ' Adespota ' gives r 
" Les Angloys s'amusent moult tristement," 


NOTES AND QUERIES. 1128. vi. MARCH, 1920. 

, after remarking that " No apology is 
offered for this fine old crusted saying, or for 
the sham Norman-French in which it is 
worded," states that : " It is traditionally 
ascribed to Froissart, and Froissart, when 
consulted, disclaims the parentage." On 
,p. 16 of the same book the words : 

Anglica gens optima flens, sed pessima ridens 
noted by Hearne are suggested as the source 
-of the saying ascribed to Froissart. This 
Latin, however, seems merely a modification 
of the lines : 

Rustica gens est optima flens, sed pessima ridens ; 
Ungentem pungit, pungeutem rusticus ungit, 

-given in Neander's ' Ethice vetus et sapiens ' 

King apparently overlooked the passage in 
Heine's ' Memoiren,' p. 65, in the Reclam 
edition, where the company of ancient 
.headsmen spoke little and 

" amiisierten sich in ihrer Weise, das heisst ' mou- 
laient tristement,' wie Froissart von den Englandern 
sagte, die iiach der Schlacht bei Poitiers banquet- 
'This is a curious variety of the saying. 

Hadham, Herts. 

2, William Hamilton Maxwell (1792-1850) 
wrote ' Wild Sports of the West ' (1833), and 
-' Wanderings in the Highlands and Islands : 
.a sequel to Wild Sports of the West ' (1844). 

26. There is a reference to Bentley in Max 

Mailer's biographical essay on Cclebrooke 
(('Chips from a German Workshop,' ed. 1895, 
ai. 258). Bentley attacked Colebrooke on 

the subject of Hindu astronomy, the an- 

tiquity and originality of which he denied. 

His animosity lasted for many years, and 
Colebrooke at length vouchsafed an answer 

in the Asiatic Journal of March, 1826. His 
Christian name is not given by Max Miiller, 

but would probably be found in the Life of 
-Colebrooke written by his son, Sir T. E. 
.Colebrooke (Trubner, 1873). 


4. Writing to the Duchess of Saxe-Gotha, 
May 8, 1760, Frederick the Great says : 

" Je ne saurais me desabuser du prejug6 dans 
lequel je sais que, a la guerre, Dieu est pour les 
gros escadrons. Jusqu'ici, ces gros escadrons se 
trouvent chez nos ennerais." ' CEuvres de 
Frederic le Grand,' Berlin, torn, xviii. 186 (1851). 

This is partly quoted in Carlyle's ' Frederick,' 
Bk. XIX., ch. viii., where see Carlyle's 
remark on the true authorship. Why this 
saying should be attributed to Napoleon I 
-do not know. DANEHALL. 

4. A correspondent in The Spectator of 
Mar. 18, 1916, referred to this question, 
stating that Bartlett attributed it to 
Voltaire, and that it occurred in a letter to 
M. le Riche : " It is said that God is always 
on the side of the heaviest battalions." 
Bartlett further quotes from De la Ferte to 
Anne of Austria : "I have always noticed 
that God is on the side of the heaviest 
battalions." An editorial note stated that 
in 1677 Bussy-Rabutin said: " Dieu est 
d' ordinaire pour les gros escadrons contre les 

7. The Mark Lane Express and Agri- 
cultural Journal and Live-Stock Record. This 
is a weekly newspaper, devoted, as its name 
implies, to agricultural interests. It was 
founded in 1832. J. R. H. 

12. It is historical to this extent : that 
chap. ix. of the famous Statute of Merton, 
20 Henry III. (1236), records in Latin that a 
question had been put by the king whether 
a son born before marriage could inherit, and 
that the bishops said yes, because the Church 
held such legitimate, " et omnes Comites et 
Barones una voice responderunt quod 
nolunt leges Angliae mutare quse hucusque 
usitatae sunt et approbatse." 

It is often stated that the earls and barons 
cried out : " Nolumus leges Angliae mutari." 
Lord Justice James (in Re Goodman's Trusts, 
17 Ch. D., at p. 297) spoke of this as an 
historical or mythical legend, and probably 
the lords gave their unanimous opinion in 
the vernacular, but whether they cried out in 
Latin or not their view prevailed, and the law 
of England and not the canon law remained. 

C. A. COOK. 

Sullingstead , TTascombe, Godalming. 

[MB. L. BUNT also thanked for reply.] 

CONGEWOI (12 S. v. 264). This refers to 
a marine animal, one of the compound 
ascidians, which is abundant on rocks and 
piles all along the Australian coast. It 
forms large rough masses, having a soft 
body enclosed in a hard tough outer case, 
varying up to about a foot in length. When 
cut up it is largely used for bait. The name 
is now usually spelt " cunjewoi." 


Stephen's Street, Pennant Hills, N.S.W. 

Hennessy's ' Chichester Diocese Clergy Lists,' 
1900 ? Hennessy gives Lawrence Wodcoke 
as Vicar of Wartling from 1539 (not 1529) 
to 1545. The other places and dates 
given by Mr. Hennessy agree with MR. 



WAINEWRIGHT. He does not appear in the 
list of vicars of Boxgrove. Thos. Boxfeld 
was vicar in 1523 and the next name is John 
Hull resigned in 1612, so that he might well 
occur between the two dates. The list is 
evidently not complete 


(12 S. v. 236, 277). The following portraits 
by Gilbert Stuart Newton, R.A., were ex- 
hibited at the Royal Academy in the years 
stated : 

1818. Portrait of himself. 

1819. T. Palmer, Esq. 

1822. Washington Irving, Esq. 

1824. T. Moore, Esq. 

1825. Sir Walter Scott, Bart. 
1832. Lady Mary Fox. 


ST. CASSIAN (12 S. iii. 473 ; iv. 28). The 
cathedral at Imola in North Italy is dedicated 
to the saint. JOHN B. WAINWRIGHT. 

" EPATER LE BOURGEOIS " (12 S. vi. 11). 
Is this not a paraphrase of the famous 
saying attributed to Baudelaire by Th. de 
Banville on the occasion of his visit to a 
government official to solicit help for a 
friend in distress. The official was amia- 
bility itself to Baudelaire, but could not 
restrain himself from asking one question : 

''Je voudrais savoir ponrquoi avec votre magnifique 
talent, avec ce don que vous avez de creer 
1'harmonie et de susciter la plus puissante illusion, 
vous choisissez des sujets s>i 

" Si quoi ?" dernanda froidement Baudelaire. 

"Mais," reprit le fonctionnaire, "si atroces ! ' 

Et se reprenant aussitob : " Je veux dire si peu 


" Monsieur," dit le poete d'une voix aiguisee et 
coupaute comme le tranchant d'un glaive, "c'est 
pour etonner les sots ! " 

I have always thought that the phrase 
epater le bourgeois originated in this way, 
and do so still. W. A. HUTCHISON. 

32 Hotham Road, Putney, S.W. 

EDMUND UVEDALE (12 S. v. 316). MR. 
WILLIAMS asks if there is a place in the 
family pedigree connected with Dr. Robert 
Uvedale, the seventeenth-century botanist 
alluded to at 12 S. ii. 361 et seq., for an 
Edmund Uvedale, who was appointed an 
officer (cornet ?) in Harrington's 13th Regi- 
ment of Dragoon in 1710/11. May I, as 
the writer of the articles upon Dr. Robert 
Uvedale, tell MR. WILLIAMS all I can first 
xvpon the matter ? 

In the Uvedale" pedigree given in 
Hut chins' s ' History of Dorset ' (3rd ed., 

vol. iii., p. 144), the name of Edmund appear* 
several times ; but, with the exception of 
the two I will presently mention, these 
occurences are at too early a date to make 
it possible that they can refer to a person 
joining the army in 1710. 

With regard to the two others these also 
partake more or less of some improbability 
as to either of them being the Edmund 
Uvedale inquired after by your correspon- 
dent. They were Edmund Uvedale, born 
in 1671, the son of William Uvedale, who 
died in 1679, and Edmund Uvedale, the 
youngest brother of the botanist himself r 
who was born in 1653. The former, there- 
fore, would have been about 39 years of age, 
and the latter about 57 in 1710. I think the 
latter must be considered out of the running ; 
whilst the age of the former must be excep- 
tionally high at which to join the army as a^ 

Nothing is stated in Hutchins as to 
whether either of these two persons married 
or not, so it is quite possible, of course, that 
the Edmund Uvedale of 1710 may have 
been a son of the Edmund who was born 
in 1653. J. S. UDAL, F.S.A. 

THE REV. AARON BAKER (7 S. xii. 407). 
From family papers and some recent in- 
quiries I am able to answer this query, and 
to sort out the seven of these names, who' 
are to be found in Foster's ' Alumni Oxon.' 

Aaron Baker (1), after whom all the 
others were named, was a native of Alphing- 
ton, near Exeter, who acquired a con- 
siderable fortune' in the East India trade. 
He purchased Bowhay in the adjacent 
parish of Exminster, died there in 1683 r 
aged 73, and was buried at Dunchideock. 
His co -heiresses were Ann, married to 
Daniel Michell, who succeeded him at 
Bowhay, and Mary, married to Edward 
Cheeke. He left his study of printed books- 
to the Rev. Aaron Baker, son of his brother 
John. This nephew, 

Aaron Baker (2), was M.A. of Wadham 
College, Oxford, and Rector of West 
Alvington, Devon, 1679 until his death in 
1729. He had four sons, Aaron, George, 
John, and Anthony, three of whom were of 
Wadham College, and George of King's 
College, Cambridge. The eldest son, 

Aaron Baker (3) was at Eton College, 
1696 ; M.A. of Wadham, 1707 ; and a 
barrister-at-law. He lived at OxfordTand, 
had two sons, Aaron and John, both, born 
there. The eldest son, 

Aaron Baker (4), was M.A. of Pembroke 
College, 1736 ; and Vicar of Altarnon,, 



Cornwall, 1743 until his death, 1749/50, 
.aged 38. He left an only son, 

Aaron Abraham Baker (5) of Wadham and 
All Saints' Colleges, D.C.L., Incumbent of 
Brislington, Rector of Burnett and of 
Marksbury, Somerset, and Prebendary of 
Wells, until his death in 1814, aged 64. His 
eldest son, 

Aaron Webb Baker (6), was of C.C.C., 
Oxford ; B.A., 1803 ; lieutenant 18th Royal 
Irish Regiment ; and died at Jamaica, 1805, 
.aged 25. 

Returning to Aaron (2), his second son 
George was at Eton and King's Colleges ; 
Vicar of Modbury and Staverton and Arch- 
-deacon of Totnes, 1740, until his death in 
1777. He had three sons, George, Aaron, 
and Thomas. George was the well-known 
Physician to George III., F.R.S., and 
.baronet. Thomas was Vicar of Staverton 
.and Prebendary of St. Asaph. The second son, 

Aaron Baker (7), was born in 1725, and 
was of Wadham College, B.A. 1746. He 
died early in the following year. 

It will be seen therefore that the answer is 
"that the Rev. Aaron (Abraham) Baker (5) 
-was the great-grandson, while Sir George 
Baker was the grandson, of the Rev. 
Aaron (2), Vicar of West Alvington. It may 
be observed that the Baronetages leave the 
origin of Sir George Baker of Loventor in 
.unnecessary obscurity. A. T. M. 

P.S. Since the above was in print, I have 
learned that Aaron (3) became Recorder of 
^Plymouth, and died there in 1750. 

DBEUX FAMILY (12 S. vi. 37). The Comte 
de Dreux, whose dau. Yolande m. Alexan- 
der III., King of Scots, was Robert IV., 
fifth holder of the county which was origin- 
.ally conferred in 1137 on Robert I., fifth son 
of Louis VI., King of France. According to 
ithe ' Genealogie Historique de la Maison 
Royale de France ' [Paris, 1738], the 
succession went from Count Robert I. 
(d. 1188), a Crusader, and his third wife 
Agnes (m. 1152), dau. and heir of Guy de 
Baudement, seigneur of Braine, to their son 
Robert II. (d. 1218), a Crusader, who m. as 
his second wife Yolande (d. 1222), dau. of 
Raoul I., Sire de Coucy. Of their sons 
Robert III. became Count of Dreux and 
Peter m. Alice (d. 1221), dau. and heir of 
Guy de Thouars and half-sister and heir of 
Arthur, Duke of Brittany (murdered 1203), in 
whose right he became Duke of Brittany in 
1213. He abdicated in 1237 in favour of his 
son John I., whose descendants became 
extinct in the male line in 1488. Robert III. 
<d. 1233) m. Eleanor (d. 1251), dau. and heir 

of Thomas, Seigneur of St. Valery ; their 
eldest son John I. (d. 1248), a Crusader, m. 
Marie (d. 1274), dau. of Archambaut VIII., 
Sire de Bourbon. He was succeeded by his 
eldest son Robert IV. (d. 1282), who m. 
Beatrix (d. 1311), dau. and heir of John I., 
Count of Montfort 1'Amaury. Of their 
children Yolande (d. 1332) was Queen of 
Scots and afterwards m. Arthur II., Duke 
of Brittany (d. 1312), and John II. (d. 1309) 
became 6th Count of Dreux. He had three 
sons by his first wife Jeanne (d. 1308), dau. 
of Humbert de Beaujeu, Seigneur of Mont- 
pensier and Constable of France. These all 
succeeded in turn as Counts of Dreux, 
Robert V. (d. 1329), John III. (d. 1331), and 
Peter (d. 1345), who m. Isabel, dau. of 
John I., Viscount of Melun. Their dau. 
Jeanne I. succeeded as Countess of Dreux 
but d. 1346 unmarried. She was succeeded 
by her aunt Jeanne II. (d. 1355), dau. of 
Count John II. by his second wife Perrenelle, 
dau. of Henry III., Sire de Sully, and wife of 
Louis, Viscount of Thouars (d. 1370). Her 
son Simon (d. 1365) was 12th Count of 
Dreux, but his sisters Perrenelle and Mar- 
garet, who succeeded as co-heirs, sold their 
rights to the Crown in 1378 and 1377. The 
cadet branches of the House of Dreux 
became extinct in the male line in the years 
indicated in each case : Beu (1359), Bagnaux 
(1368), Baussart (1420), Baussart and 
Esneval (1540), and Morainville (1590). A 
bastard branch of this last, but not using 
Dreux as a surname, failed in 1674. The 
Counts of Dreux bore : Chequy or and azure 
within a bordure gules. H. P.-G. 

(12 S. ii. 506 ; iii. 39, 74). At the second 
reference B. B. states he has heard this 
expression for at least forty years in Wilt- 
shire but never in London. I have a cutting 
from The Stwidard newspaper of Jan. 21, 
1896, which contains the report of a case 
at the Bow Street Police Court. In the 
course of the examination of a witness the 
following occurs : 

" Mr. Bodkin : How long ago is it since you 
first borrowed money from Prisoner? 

" Witness : Years and years : donkeys' ears 
ago (laughter). It was long before I came of 

The expression is noted in Prof. Wright's 
' Dialect Dictionary,' as in use in Oxford- 
shire, and the following quotation given 
from the Dorchester Parish Magazine (pre- 
sumably Dorchester in Oxfordshire) for 
April, 1896 : " For years, long years, and to 
use a well-known local expression, donkeys' 



The expression is also current in the Isle 
of Wight. I am over 60, and the expression 
is familiar to me as in vise there as long as 
I can recollect anything. I am quite 
satisfied that it is not a piece of modern 
slang, but a proverbial expression of long 
standing. It invariably ran " Years and 
years, and donkeys years ago." There is 
a tendency in the Isle of Wight dialect to 
prefix a y to words beginning with a vowel, 
e.g., " yarm," the arm ; " yeal," ale ; 
" yeaprun," an apron ; " yet," to eat. 
This tendency in the case of ears has existed 
as far back as 1566 as evidenced by the 
following entry in the inventory taken in 
that year of the goods and chattels of Sir 
Richard Worsley of Appuldurcombe (Appen- 
dix B. to 'The Undercliff of the Isle of 
Wight,' by J. L. Whitehead, M.D. London, 
Simpkin, 1911) : "2 basons w th yeares to 
them." WM. SELF- WEEKS. 

Westwood, Clitheroe. 

JOHN WITTY (12 S. vi. 13). The record 
of his admission to St. John's College, 
Cambridge, is as follows : 

" 1696. John Witty born at Lun [Lund near 
Beverley'], Yorkshire, son of Richard Witty, 
husbandman (agricolce) : school, Beverley (Mr. 
Lambert) ; admitted sizar for his tutor and surety 
Mr. Nourse, 17 April, set. 17." 


There is in vol. 2, page 219, of ' Letters of 
Eminent Men addressed to Ralph Thoresby,' 
a letter dated Jan. 20, 1709/10, from a 
certain John Witty in which he speaks of 
his uncle Mr. John Witty, Rector of Lock- 
ington, near Beverley, and of his cousin 
Mr. Ralph Witty, Senior Fellow of St. 
Peter's College, Cambridge. The Rector of 
Lockington may be the man desired. I may 
be able to give your correspondent further 
information about the family if he cared to 
write to me. T. C. DALE. 

29 Larkhall Rise, S.W.4. 

v. 257). Since the account of John Sykes 
appeared at the above reference it has been 
proved, chiefly by deduction, that the 
writer of the narrative of the bombardment 
of Cadiz (quoted therein) must have been 
Ralph Willett Miller, captain of the flag-ship 

In his letter of July 4, 1797, Nelson spoke 
of the gallantry of Capts. Freemantle* and 
Miller, yet in the narrative only the name of 
the former was mentioned. Then, the 

* Captain of the Terpsichore. 

writer states that, " Sykes was with us on?, 
the Captain " i.e., with Nelson and Miller ,. 
as the latter had also been flag-captain of 
that ship, hence his thorough knowledge of 
the Admiral's coxswain. Again, Nelson's 
barge was carried on the Theseus, so was 
manned by her men and commanded by her 

Further evidence as to the identity of the 
writer is contained in a letter* from Capt. 
Miller to his wife, giving a graphic descrip- 
tion of the battle of the Nile. Therein he 
remarks : "it [the letter] will remain in your 
hands, as a record for me hereafter of the- 
Battle, the share the Theseus had in it, and 
the mode of conduct I found beneficial." 

From this it is evident that Capt. Miller 
was in the habit of writing descriptive 
accounts of engagements in which he had; 
taken part, and sending them to his wife to- 
preserve for his own reference at a later date. 

The ' D.N.B.' contains an interesting 
biographical sketch of Capt. Miller (1762-99), 
who was unfortunately killed in the Theseus 
by the accidental explosion of some shells 
on May 14, 1799. 


URCHFONT (12 S. vi. 12). In Edward 
Hulton's ' Highways and Byways of Wilts,' 

he says 

" They told me in Urchfont or Erchfont that 
the name is derived from a spring there, which 
they showed me, and which never runs dry. In 
the Domesday Survey I find the name spelt 

Amongst some Wiltshire Notes, by my 
late father, T. H. Baker, I find the follow- 
ing : 

" King Alfred and his queen founded the 
convent of St. Mary at Winchester. . . .according' 
to Domesday Book the manor of Erchfont, there 
called Jerchesfonte, belonged to this convent." 

91 Brown Street, Salisbury. 

A ' Manual of Wiltshire Place-Names,' 
published in that county in 1911 has the 
following entry : 

" Erchfont or Urchfont was in Domesday Book 
lerchesfonte, and in the ' Nomina Villarum ' of 
1316, Erchesfonte. The name is variously 
written Erches-font, lerchesfonte, and Urches- 
font. The first syllable may be Celtic /icrcA = tho 
roebuck, and the latter A.S. funt, funta, a foaming 
or frothing fount. Hence ' the fount of the 
roebuck.' I think it probable, however, that the 
first syllable represents an A.S. personal name." 

In Elizabethan documents the name is 
found as Urchefont, Urchfonte, Urchfount. 

* ' Dispatches and Letters of Lord Nelson,' 
Nicholas, vol. vii., p. cliv. 


NOTES AND QUE1UES. 112 s. vi. MARCH, 19-20. 

The interpretation here offered is typical 
of those proposed by the erudite for the 

enlightenment of the unlearned. In the 
present instance the general reader, while 
marvelling at the picturesque group of the 
roebuck at the foaming fount, is relieved to 
learn that the author of the foregoing note 
would be content with a less fanciful 

.derivation of the first syllable. K. S. 

Under the head " Urchinwood " in ' Place- 
Names of Somerset ' ( J. S. Hill), p. 320, we 
are told that Urchfont contains the personal 
name " ' Eorcon ' pronounced Erchon, soft 
not hard." Identifying this with " urchin," 
Mr. Hill proceeds : 

" Urchin no doubt means a hedgehog, which, 
however, is not a Saxon word, but a French- 
Latin word. The Latin is ericius (the initial 
vowel is long), the old French irecon (with soft c), 
and in the Norman dialect herichon and herisson. 
The name would thus be late and mean the 
hedgehog wood, and then, naturally, we desire 
to know why. So very many hedgehogs ? 
Eorcon as Saxon means a gem or pearl." 

Hence as the meaning of urchfont, we 
may choose between " a stream the resort of 
hedgehogs," or ' a stream taking its name 
from a Saxon whose name meant gem or 
pearl." As " font " bears a Norman appear- 
ance, the first meaning is the most probable, 
.or as a third variation we might imagine a 
..Norman with the nickname Hedgehog. 


Urchfont, Wilts, 4 miles south-west from 
.Patney station. There is a spring in the 
parish that never runs dry, and the deriva- 
tion of its name, Archefount, or, as in 
Domesday " Jerchesfont," has its probable 
source in the same. H. P. HART. 

The Vicarage, Ixworth, Bury St. Edmunds. 

DANVERS FAMILY (12 S. v. 320). The 
: most exhaustive book on this family is 
' Memorials of the Danvers Family,' by 
F. N. Macnamara, M.D., London, Hardy & 
'Page, 1895. It is very good reading too. 

vi. 37). Unitarian minister ; was born at 
Ipswich, 1783. Son of John Bransbury 
(d. 1837). Minister at Moreton Hampstead, 
Devon, 1802-5; at Dudley (where he also 
kept a preparatory school), 1805-28. He 
married Sarah, dau. of J. Isaac, a Baptist 
minister at Moreton Hampstead. She died 
Oct. 28, 1841. 

He was a very eccentric character and 
while at Dudley developed kleptomania, 

and committed forgery. He was, however* 
allowed to leave Dudley and re;ire to Wales 
where he edited a paper and wrote books. He 
died quite suddenly at Bron'r Hendref, near 
Carnarvon, Nov. 4, 1847. The ' D.N.B. 1 
contains an account of Mr. Bransbury, with 
a list of his publications. 


Aysgarth, Sevenoaks. 

THOMAS COTESMOBE (12 S. v. 292). The 
livings held by Hopkins were apparently 
East and West Wrotham (now Wretham) in 
Norfolk, not Wrotham, in Kent. See 
Cooper's ' Athena* Cantabrigienses,' v. i, 212, 
and the list of the rectors of those parishes 
in Blomefield's ' History of Norfolk.' Cooper 
does not mention his taking the degree of 

SIB EDWARD PAGET (12 S. v. 126). 
Facing page 268 of vol. ii. of 'The Paget 
Papers ' (Heinemann, 1886), there is a 
reproduced portrait, evidently from an oil 
painting, of General Sir Edward Paget, 
but the letterpress does not disclose the 
whereabouts of the original. 


" GRAM " IN PLACE-NAMES (12 S. v. 266). 
The places named being all hamlets, I think 
the suffix represents a contraction of the 
O.Fr. grange, a barn or granary, also a farm, 
and the place where formerly rents and 
tithes were received ; see Johnston's ' Place- 
names of England and Wales,' s.v. Abbots- 
grange and Grangemouth. In Bartholo- 
mew's ' Survey Gazetteer of the British 
Isles ' I find Kilgram Grange in the North 
Riding of Yorkshire, and Kill (i.e., Cell) 
of the Grange in co. Dublin. Angram may 
stand for Atten-Grange, Leagram for La 
Grange, and Legrams for Les Granges. 

Pegram is purely a patronymic, except 
in the United States, where it occurs as a 
place-name. It comes from Lat. peregrinus, 
O.Fr. pelegrin, a pilgrim, the I having dis- 
appeared and the common change of n into 
m taking place. 

Needless to say, the terminal in Agram 
and Wagram is radically different, the former 
deriving from Slavonic Zagreb, and the 
latter from O.H.G. Wagreine. 

N. W. HILL. 

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FRIEND (12 S. v. 290). -The second of the lines " To 
the Critic" is of course adapted from Gray's "Or 
draw his frailties from their dread abode." 


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vi. 14, 45). See also 9 S. i. 186, 392. 493. 



(12 S. vi. 15.) 

When wild in woods the naked savage ran. 
The line as iisually quoted is from Dryden : 
I am as free as Nature first made man, 
Ere the base laws of servitude began, 
When wild in woods the noble savage ran. 
' The Conquest of Granada,' pt. 1, Act I., sc. i. 

C. A. COOK. 
Sullingstead, Hascombe, Godalming. 

The correct version is : " When wild in woods 
the noble savage ran," and is from Dryden's 
' Conquest of Granada,' pt. i, Act I, sc. i. The 
late Andrew Lang once wrote an article in TJte 
Morning Post headed " When wild in woods the 
noble Marquis ran," and said : " The remarkable 
line which heads this paper may be found, I think, 
in the early works of Sir George Trevelyan." Is 
this so or was Andrew Lang's memory misleading 
him ? W. A. HUTCHISON. 

32 Hotham Road, Putney. S.W. 

Some of Almanzor's bravest lines were parodied 
and put in the mouth of Drawcansir in the Duke 
of Buckingham's ' Rehearsal.' 


also thanked for replies.] 


Sidelights on Shakespeare. By H. Dugdale 
Sykes. (Shakespeare Head Press, Stratford-on- 
Avon, Is. Qd.) 

WE reflect with sorrow that Mr. A. H. Bullen, 
one of the soundest of our Elizabethan scholars 
will write no more on his favorite subject. 
Whether anything of note remains among his 
papers we do not know ; perhaps his ' Publisher's 
Note ' to Mr. Sykes's volume is the last fruit of 
his ripe knowledge. Publishers are apt in these 
days to praise their goods without always scru- 
tinizing too closely their literary worth. But 
Mr. Bullen was a learned critic as well as a pub- 
lisher, and experts will we think, endorse his 
opinion of the worth of Mr. Sykes's researches 
which, like those of our old contributor, Mr. 
Charles Crawford, bring forward parallels and 
correspondences as a guide to the authorship of 
dubious or disputed plays. This method of 
discovery can, as in many Baconian books, be 
grossly and foolishly overdone ; but the work of 
Mr. Sykes supplies an accumulation of evidence 
not relying on commonplaces which deserves 
serious consideration. The Shakespeare Apo- 
crypha are a fair field for conjecture and dis- 
cussion. ' Arden of Feversham ' good critics 
have not generally, we think, followed Swin- 
burne in regarding as Shakespeare's, and the 
pages before us offer strong reasons for assigning 
it to Kyd. It has passages of unusual power, 
but we quite agree with Mr. Bullen in not regard- 
ing these as signs of Shakespeare's workmanship. 

' Henry VIII.' is in several ways, that the or-- 
dinary reader does not perceive, different from 
the authentic plays of Shakespeare. We think 
he may have touched it up here and there ; but 
general assent will be given to Mr. Sykes's views 
that it is the work of Fletcher and Massinger.- 
In metrical quality it is markedly unShakesperian. 
' A Yorkshire Tragedy ' and a part of ' Pericles ' 
are assigned to Wilkins. All readers of taste will 
be glad to find Shakespeare relieved of uncouth 
stuff with confusing elliptical constructions which 
does not seem worthy of a master-hand. Mr. 
Sykes's examination of ' A Yorkshire Tragedy ' 
is one of his most telling pieces of argument, 
supported as it is by abundant learning. Another 
dramatist who takes on a new importance is 
Peele, who, if he is the author of ' The Trouble- 
some Reign of King John,' stands at the head of 
the English school of chronicle-dramas. A book 
like this makes one realise how widely as well as 
bow wisely Shakespeare adapted the plays of 
others, a fact which is sometimes forgotten by 
those who exclaim at the amount of work he gofc 
through. Certainty on such questions is a 
difficult matter, to achieve ; but we bad sooner 
read one essay by Mr. Sykes than a dozen pre- 
tentious books explaining that Shakespeare was 
somebody else. He is both erudite and careful, 
and we regard his arguments as " good gifts," if 
we may use a Shakespearian phrase. We hope 
that he will pursue his inquiries. 

Catalogue of Printed Music published prior to 1801 
now in the Library of Christ Church, Oxford. 
Edited by A. Hiff. (Humprey Milford, 
7s. 6d. net.) 

FOR some a catalogue may not be full enough and 
for others it may seem inconveniently bulky, but 
in this volume it would be hard to find any serious 
fault : it seems to fulfil exactly the purpose for 
which it is intended. It is a short but sufficiently 
detailed hand-list of the printed music in the 
Christ Church Library, which in no way attempts^ 
to compete with Mr. Arkwright's larger work, but 
sets out to provide a convenient list with just- 
enough information to make it generally useful- 
Mr. Aloys HifE has, we think, fulfilled the ex- 
pectations of his friends and co-workers in 
Oxford, but those of us who may wish to incor- 
porate the volume in future musical bibliographies- 
would have liked the compiler to explain the 
system of " finding " or class-marks which he has- 

Tales by Washington Irving. Selected and edited 
with an Introduction by Carl van Doren. 
(Humphrey Milford, 3s. Qd. net.) 
HERE is a welcome addition to the " Oxford 
Edition of Standard Authors." Interest in 
Irving's work is apt to be confined to ' Brace- 
bridge Hall ' and ' Rip van Winkle ' ; but there is 
much more that is really attractive, and in the 
admirable Introduction the merits and defects of 
the man who first gave a strong lead to American 
fiction are fully explained. We only regret that 
nothing is said of Irving's charm as a man, his 
life as a bachelor with the nieces who stood to 
him as daughters, and his generosity, which eased 
the difficulties of his publisher, 'if we remember 
right, at a serious crisis. Irving was historian, 
wit and essayist as well as story-teller ; but in. the 
last line only lies his claim to general recognition 
to-day. His stories, too, are not " short stories " 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vr. MARCH, 1920. 

of the sort America now produces so freely. 
Compared with O. Henry, he is nowhere in point 
and smartness, in carefully engineering and 
revealing at the right moment a surprise, or even 
a double surprise. He lacks the restless vivacity 
and slang of modern America. He is not great 
at depicting incident as such. His bandits are 
nothing like so great, for instance, as Luigi 
Vampa in ' Monte Cristo.' ' The Adventure of 
-the Little Antiquary ' seems rather tame, and 
' Governor Manco and the Soldier ' a little too 
obvious, though redeemed by the spirited touch 
of its last words. Irving knew that " the author 
must be continually piquant," and hardly reached 
that difficult goal. But the very smoothness and 
excellence of his style may serve as a new recom- 
mendation nowadays. He does not write tele- 
graphese, or pepper his narrative with dashes, 
like some formless purveyors of fiction in the 
twentieth century. He needed for his best work 
;a story ready made for him, a legend he could 
embroider. His is not only a style recalling 
Addison, but also the sly wit of that master, 
excellently shown, as the Introduction points out, 
in the satirical medievalism of ' The Widow's 
Ordeal.' It is in touches of character that he 
excels, as in ' The Adventure of the Englishman ' 
accused of insensibility by the fair Venetian. 
' The Stout Gentleman ' is justly described as a 
'"flawless episode." There is nothing of unusual in- 
cident in it, and the title-character never justifies 
himself by revealing to the reader in detail the 
figure of John Bull. He is seen only in a partial 
glimpse at the end. The piece is a success of 
style and, for once of imagination, for this was 
the quality which Irving lacked, or did not in- 
dulge, let us say, as freely as he might have. 

We think it quite likely that the present age, 
tired of excessive and devastating cleverness, 
may return to such writing as Irving's. Any- 
way, a judicious reader should find pleasure in 
this collection. It recalls what Dr. Saintsbury 
has described as " the Peace of the Augustans." 
We may not return exactly to that kind of peace : 
uut we can appreciate the intellectual curiosity 
and social good sense of the eighteenth century 
as something more desirable than the world of 
franzied fashion and vulgar advertisement which 
produces such inferior and snobbish journalism 
for eager readers to-day. 

The British Academy : Seals and Documents. 
By Reginald L. Poole. (Published for the 
Academy by Humphrey Milford, 2s. 6d. net.) 

THIS little paper booklet should not be over- 
ooked on account of its modest appearance, for 
it is the work of a master in diplomatics who 
compresses into a short space the results of 
abundant erudition. The path of the student 
of seals is strewn with difficulties and forgeries ; 
and some curious gaps in our knowledge still 
require to be filled up. Mr. Poole shows the 
abundant interest of the- subject and dwells 
briefly on the various forms which the seal has 
taken, not the least important of which is the 
Papal bull. England, however, can claim de- 
velopments of her own as well as the use of foreign 

We are glad to see monographs of this kind : 
they are the best justification for the existence 
of an Academy, an institution which the average 
student of letters in this country does not regard 
great favour 


MB. ARTHUR HENRY BULLEN who was laid to 
rest at Lullington on March 5 last had a well- 
deserved reputation as a scholar, especially in 
the Elizabethan period. Indeed, he doubled for 
many years the parts of scholar and publisher, 
and his bluff, hearty personality fired the imagina- 
tion of more than one rising writer to Whom, he 
gave help and encouragement. We believe he 
figures, for instance, in Mr. Albert Kinross's 
novel ' The Way Out,' and in one of Major A. J. 
Dawson's earlier books. His first activities as a 
publisher were connected with the firm of 
Lawrence & Bullen, and in 1904 he established 
the Shakespeare Head Press at Stratford-on- 
Avon, whence he issued his fine " Stratford Town 
Shakespeare " in several volumes, a work which 
reveals his mastery of Elizabethan drama. That 
indeed, was known to the expert from his ex- 
cellent editions of Marlowe, Middleton, Marston, 
Peele and Campion. The last-named, a lyrist 
of the first quality, he may be said to have 
discovered when he was looking for songs in the 
Elizabethan music-books in 1887. He collected 
Campion's poems, the best of which have since 
figured in all good anthologies, but characteris- 
tically, as Mr. Gosse has recently written, warned 
admirers in 1903 against making Campion " the 
object of uncritical adulation." His first pub- 
lication, an edition of the works of John Day, 
1881, reveals that careful and measured erudition 
which is characteristic of all his work, and which 
will preserve it as of permanent value. 

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CORRIGENDA. Owing to the late return of 
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CONTENTS. No. 103. 

."NOTES : Wordsworth's ' Ecclesiastical Sonnets ' : Date of 
Composition, 81 The Parish of St. Michael : Crooked 
Lane, 83 Principal London Coffee-houses, Taverns, and 
Inns in the Eighteenth Century, 84 Hugh Griffin, Provost 
of Canibrai, 86 ' Bloody "Book of Common Prayer 
Freight-charges during the War, 87 -A Mid-Victorian 
Memory John Felton, Assassin of the Duke of Marl- 
borough, 1628, 88. 

-QUERIES : Oliver Cromwell and Bogdan Chmielnitzky 
The "Big Four" of Chicago 'The Three Westminster 
Boys '-Places in 'Sybil,' 88 Keith of Ravenscraig ' The 
Holy History 'Sir Henry Cary, 89 - ' Anne of Geiemtein ' 
Rev. Thomas Garden Song : 'The Spade ' Le Monu- 
ment " Quand M6me " St. Leonard's Priory. Hants 
William Thomas Rogers, 90 Theodorus of Cyrene, 91 

"REPLIES : Chpss : The Knight's Tour, 91 Mathew 
Myerse Mrs. Gordon. Novelist, 93 Value of Money 
Morbus Anglicus Quotation from Hood, 94 General 
Stonewall Jnckson-Cantrfll Family Burial at Sea : 
Four Guns Fired for an Officer Capt. B. Grant, 95 
George Shepherd Capt. J. C. Grant Duff Homeland, 
St. Alban's, 96 Clergymen at Waterloo "Cockagee ": 
" Cypress" : Wine Labels, 97 Bishops of the Fifteenth 
Century Hallowe'en Epigram :" A little garden little 
Jowett made " Lieut.-General Sharpe, 98 Pseudonyms 
"Fray": Archaic Meaning of the Word, 99. 

NOTES ON BOOKS : ' French Terminologies in the 
Making : Studies in Conscious Contributions to the 
Vocabulary ' ' Elkstone : its Manors, Church and 

Notices to Correspondents. 


(Pt. iii., Nos. 16, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31.) 

THE following paragraphs embody the 
results of some recent investigations made 
among the manuscript collection of the late 
Mrs. Henry A. St. John of Ithaca, New York, 
and it has been suggested that the establish- 
ment of the dates of composition of certain 
of Wordsworth's ' Ecclesiastical Sonnets ' 
might be of interest to the readers of 

* N. & Q.' 

Of Pt. iii., Nos. 26, 27, 28, and 31. 

In the ' Letters of the Wordsworth 
Family,' iii. 249, Knight has printed as 
follows part of a letter from William 
Wordsworth to Henry Reed : 

Bydal Mount, Sept. 14 [sic] 1842, 

... .A few days ago, after a very long interval, 
J returned to poetical composition : and my first 
employment was to write a couple of sonnets upon 

subjects recommended by you to be placed in the 
ecclesiastical, series. They are upon the marriage 
ceremony .... 

The original of this letter is in the library 
of the late Mrs. Henry A. St. John, at Ithaca, 
New York. It bears the date " Septbr. 4th, 
1842 " ; "to take place " is the correct 
reading, instead of "to be placed " ; and the 
text which Knight interrupts after "marriage 
ceremony " continues thus : 

"... .and the Funeral Service. I have also, 
at the same time, added two others, one upon 
Visiting the Sick, and the other upon the Thanks- 
giving of Women after Childbirth, both subjects 
taken from the Services of our Liturgy. To the 
second part of the same series I have also added 
two, in order to do more justice to the Papal 
Church for the services which she did actually 
render to Christianity and humanity in the Middle 
Ages. . . ." 

Bishop Wordsworth, in his ' Memoirs of 
William Wordsworth,' quotes the letter 
correctly (London edition, 1851, ii. 389-90), 
as does also Henry Reed, under whose 
supervision the ' Memoirs ' were published 
in America (Boston edition, 1851, ii. 394-5). 

We have final evidence, then, that 
' Ecclesiastical Sonnets,' iii. 26, 27, 28, and 
31, entitled respectively 'The Marriage Cere- 
mony,' ' Thanksgiving after Childbirth,' 
' Visitation of the Sick,' and ' Funeral 
Service,' were composed " a few days " 
before Sept. 4, 1842. They must have been 
composed after April 28, 1842, as is proved 
by the following quotation from Reed's 
letter of that date. The original manuscript 
in Mrs. St. John's library has been con- 
sulted : 

"... .1 trust ygu will not think your kindness 
in this matter [the composition of the sonnets on 
' Aspects of Christianity in America '] is made a 

Eretext for me to abuse it, if I suffered myself to 
e tempted to make another suggestion respecting 
the Ecclesiastical Sonnets, the completeness of 
which, considering the sacred association of the 
whole series, is especially to be desired. This 
consideration will I hope weigh with you as some 
excuse for my venturing to inquire whether 
among the sonnets in the latter part of the series 
on the rites and ceremonies of the Church 
Baptism Catechizing and those (very favourite 
ones) on Confirmation, there should not be 
introduced two more, on the solemnization of 
Matrimony, and the other on the Burial Ser- 
vice . . . ." 

That Hutchinson and Nowell C. Smith in 
their respective editions of Wordsworth's 
poetical works show uncertainty as to the 
date of the sonnets ' Thanksgiving after 
Childbirth ' and ' Visitation of the Sick ' is 
partly due to their failure to consult the 
reprint of Wordsworth's letter of Sept. 4, 
1842, as given in the ' Memoirs,' but perhaps 
more directly to the incomplete version of the 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 3, 1920. 

letter in Knight's Eversley edition of the 
' Poetical "Works,' vii. 94, copied from his 
Edinburgh edition, vii. 90 : 

" In a letter to Prof. Henry Reed, dated ' Rydal 
Mount, Sept. 4, 1842,' Wordsworth says : ' A few 
days ago, after a very long interval. I returned to 
poetical composition ; and my first employment 
was to write a couple of Sonnets upon subjects 
recommended by you to take place in the 
Ecclesiastical Series. They are upon the Marriage 
Ceremony and the Funeral Service. I have, about 
the same time, added two others, both upon 
subjects taken from the Services of our Liturgy.' " 

In the Aldine edition, Dowden, who 
without acknowledgment accepted Knight's 
quotation as it stood, failed no less in a final 
statement of the evidence. Under ' Ec- 
clesiastical Sonnets,' iii. 21-31, his note 
reads : 

" Of these sonnets the text of which is 
unchanged certainly four were written in 1842, 
and probably the others followed in the same year 
or a little later. They were all first published in 
1845. Writing to Henry Reed, Sept. 4, 1842, 
Wordsworth says : [Here follows the mistaken 
text as Knight has given it both in the Edinburgh 
and Eversley editions, identical even to the use of 

With Hutchinson and Smith, as well as 
Dowden, unable to furnish a definite state- 
ment, and in view of Knight's misleading 
quotations, it seems best once for all to set 
the whole matter forth at some length. 
' Ecclesiastical Sonnets,' iii. 26, 27, 28, and 
31 were composed between April 28 and 
Sept. 4, 1842, probably " a few days " before 
the latter date. 

Of Pt. ii., Nos. 1, 2, 9, and 10. 
Since the letter of Sept. 4, 1842, from 
Wordsworth to Reed is under discussion, it 
may be well to refer to one sentence in it 
which is correctly quoted by Knight when 
he would establish the dates of composition 
of ' Ecclesiastical Sonnets,' ii. 9 and 10. 
Knight says (Eversley edition, vii. 42 ; 
Edinburgh edition, vii. 41) : 

" In a letter to Prof. Henry Reed, Philadelphia, 
Sept. 4, 1842, Wordsworth writes : ' To the 
second part of the Series ' (the ' Ecclesiastical 
Sonnets ') ' I have also added two. in order to do 
more justice to the Papal Church for the services 
which she did actually render to Christianity and 
humanity in the Middle Ages.' " 

Dowden repeats Knight's note (omitting 
the words " and humanity " and the 
parenthesis). He applies it to ' Ecclesias- 
tical Sonnets,' ii. 9 and 10. Smith and 
Hutchinson assert that ii. 9 and 10 were 
composed in 1842. But no evidence is given 
by Knight or Dowden or Smith or Hutchin- 
son that these two rather than ii. 1 and 2 
are the sonnets to which Wordsworth refers. 

Indeed, the words of the letter " did actually 
render " point to ii. 2 and 9 as more- 
explicitly doing " justice to the Papal 
Church." Editors have not yet hazarded a- 
date of composition for 11. 1 and 2 ; but have, 
with no clear statement of the evidence, 
believed their conclusions on 9 and 10 to be- 

Of Pt. iii., Nos. 16, 29, and 30. 
A letter from Wordsworth to Reed, dated 
Mar. 27, 1843, is quoted by Knight ( ' Letters,' 
iii. 263-5). The present writer, who has 
examined the original in Mrs. St. John's 
library, attests the accuracy of the following 
sentence from it : 

... .1 send you, according to your wish, the 
additions to the ecclesiastical sonnets...." 

Reed's reply, written April 27, 1843, i 
here quoted from the original : 

" Your letter of the 27th of March reached me 
some days ago .... 

" Let me most cordially thank you for the 

precious inclosures in your letter. The Church 
sonnets have an especial interest inasmuch as they 
give a completeness to the Ecclesiastical series 
which was very greatly to be desired. There now 
seems to be nothing wanting in fulfilment of the 
design of this imaginative commentary (if that be 
not too prosaic a title) upon the history and 
services of the Church. ..." 

The MS. which accompanies these letters 
of March and April in the Wordsworth-Reed 
correspondence was pointed out to the 
present writer by Mrs. St. John in 1919. 
It bears no date, but it is creased into folds 
exactly corresponding to the cover of the 
letter it is supposed to accompany, and 
satisfies the references to such a document 
made by both Reed and Wordsworth. Its 
contents are as follows : 

" The sonnet 12 (Sacheverel) is to stand else- 
where and this to be inserted in its place. " 

[Here is written a version of iii. 16 beginning : 
Bishops and Priests, how blest are Ye . . . .] 

"... .after the one on the Sacrament comes- 
the following : 

' The Marriage Ceremony.' " 

[Here is written iii. 26, and following it in order 
come : 

' Thanksgiving after Childbirth,' iii. 27. 

' The Commination Service,' iii. 29. 

' Forms of Prayer at Sea,' iii. 30. 

' Visitation of the Sick.' iii. 28. 

' Funeral Service,' iii. 31. 

Suggested alterations for iii. 32 and iii. 19.] 

Hence it becomes possible to say, pending: 
the discovery of some other " inclosure " 
which would better satisfy the references of 
Wordsworth and Reed, that ' Ecclesiastical 
Sonnets,' iii. 16, 29, and 30, respectively 
' Bishops and Priests,' ' The Commination 
Service,' and ' Forms of Prayer at Sea,' were 

12 a. vi. APRILS, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

composed before Mar. 27, 1843, and pre- 
sumably after Sept. 4, 1842, since Words- 
worth did not then mention them in their 
necessary connection. 

Lord Coleridge's copy of the edition of 
1836-37 with Wordsworth's suggested altera- 
tions in manuscript is quoted by Knight in 
his Eversley edition as having variant 
readings for ' Ecclesiastical Sonnets,' ii. 1, 
10, iii. 12, 19, 26, 29, 32. Knight's remarks 
on the date of these readings (vol. i., 
pp. 46, 47) show that we can expect no 
definite assistance from this source : 

" These MS. notes seem to have been written 
by himself, or dictated to others, at intervals 
between the years 1836 and 1850. . . ." 

"... .it is impossible to discover the precise 
year in which the suggested alterations were 
written by Wordsworth, on the margin of the 
edition of 1836 " 

If Knight has not erred in his conclusions in 
regard to this document, the MS. in Mrs. 
St. John's library remains the important 
evidence as to the date of composition of 
* Ecclesiastical Sonnets,' iii. 16, 29, and 30. 

Cornell University. 


IT is generally known that this church was 
demolished, and practically the whole parish 
rebuilt, in order to provide the northern 
approach to London Bridge. To the narrow 
lanes and post-Great Fire houses there 
succeeded broad thoroughfares lined with 
blocks of offices, usually of the brick and 
stucco order, civic adaptations of Nash and 
Decimus Burton's pseudo-classical taste. 

There have been some subsequent re- 
buildings, but with the expiration of leases 
great changes are taking place, and there is 
much to notice and record before final 
obliteration occurs. 

The bibliography of the parish is difficult 
to compile. William Herbert prepared and 
issued by subscription : 

" The History and Antiquities of the Parish 
and Church of Saint Michael, Crooked Lane, 
London. Including an account of the Roman and 
other discoveries in making the Excavations for 
the New London Bridge approaches and Historical 
Sketches of the Celebrated Boar's Head Tavern, 
Eistcheap." (Circa 1831.) 

Several publishers were associated with the 
venture and the cover 01 each five shilling 
part announces that the work is "to be 
completed in about six parts." Apparently 
it was not completed. Parts i. and ii. in 
their covers as issued are before me ; part iii. 

is known to me bound in a volume lent by a 
friend. A supplement, which may be 
accounted a fourth part, would appear to 
have been issued by the churchwardens as a 
memorial of the church. Its title reads : 
" Inscriptions on the mural monuments and 
tablets, Grave Stones and Tomb-Stor,es in the 
Church and Church- Yards of the Parish of 
St. Michael, Crooked Lane. In the City of 
London, with Short Historical Records relative 
to the Parish. 1831." 

As all these parts are scarce I offer a few 
details : 

Pt. i. Thin brown paper cover ; title on front ; 
other pages blank. Frontispiece, upright view of < 
church, " Drawn and Engraved by T. Wells." 
No title or half-title. Text : pp. 1-80 (B to L 
in fours). There exists a large paper issue of the 
three parts, and the ordinary issue in 8vo is 
presumably the same printing cut down. 

Pt. ii. Folding plan " Shewing the Site of 
St. Michael's Church together with the ancient^ 
line of Roads and Buildings previous to their 
removal for the approaches to the New London 
Bridge in 1831. Drawn by William Knight, 
Archt. Engraved by R. Martin. 124 High 
Holbom." Frontispiece oblong view of church r 
by J. Wells. No title or half-title. Text,- 
pp. 81-160 (M to X in fours). Cover as for pt. i., 
except that p. 3 and part of p. 4 has list of 

William Knight, F.S.A., was " resident- 
Superintendent to the New Bridge." 

Pt. iii. Presumably uniform with preceding, 
but No frontispiece, title, or half-title. Text r 
pp. 161-240 | ; Y to 2H in fours). 

Inscriptions, &c. Title (Al). Introduction; 
orders in vestry directing the preparation and 
printing (pp. A3 and A4). Text, pp. 1-50 and 
1 blank leaf (B to H in fours). Frontispiece, same 
view as for pt. i. but an earlier state of plate as the 
title is etched. 

The fact that sheet A is missing from these 
parts and that they have neither title nor 
half-title suggests an intentional suppression ; 
possibly because these were unsuitable, or 
because the non-success of the issue in parts 
decided the author to publish in volume form 

There is matter of great interest in this 
unfinished work, though it has little to relate 
about the Boar's Head or the parish 
generally. That the author intended to 
devote the other parts to these is evidenced 
by the title and the existence of a scarce 
lithograph he had issued about the same 
time. Small oblong folio in size, this is- 
printed by Gilks and its title reads : "A 
Fac-simile of the original Shakesperian 
Relic. In the possession of Thomas Windus 
Esqre F.S.A., Stamford Hill." For "Fac- 
simile" read "Illustration." The relic is a 
plaque or circular boss with a boar's head in 
relief, presumably carved in wood, framed? 

NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. 

Vby a pair of tusks, with the tips joined and 
pointing downwards, and having above, at 
the roots of these, a metal plate with a ring 
'bv which the object was hung. At the back, 
. on the wood, there is a pricked inscription 
said to read : " Win. Broke : Landlord of the 
Bore's Hedde Estchepe A.D. 1566." The 
eccentric spelling, the date, and the whole 
^appearance of this " relic " suggests it to be 
.a fabrication of the post-W. H. Ireland 

The planning of the approaches to New 
London Bridge that occasioned this great 
;>local change was the subject of much 

discussion and many pamphlets. Particu- 
larly active was George Allen, an architect at 
69 Tooley Street, who issued plans, circulars, 

\memorials, and designs innumerable. 

An allied subject is the history of the 

chapel in Miles Lane ; and, if we come to 
^minute detail, the circulars, cards, and 

engraved bill - heads of the fishing-tackle 
: shops of Crooked Lane are of interest. 

Other than the church, the dominant 

attraction was the Boar's Head at No. 2 
Great Eastcheap, the site of which is covered 
by the statue of William IV. On its 
demolition in June, 1831, 1011. 10s. com- 
pensation was paid to Messrs. Hooper & 
Sharland. its proprietors, so the popular 
tradition that this was the pre-Great-Fire 
inn miraculously preserved was not esteemed 
very highly. To this inn, however, came 
Washington Irving on a hopeful pilgrimage, 
and on this, as well as on a more recent 
search for relics of the original Boar's Head, 
I would refer the reader to a delightful essay, 
' The Quest of a Cup,' contained in a volume 
of appreciations of things English by Miss 
Alice Brown, published by Houghton Mifflin 
& Co., 1896. There is encouragement for 
present-day exploration in the fact that the 
frontages behind the statue are only outer 
shells screening some post-Great-Fire build- 
ings and relics. I can specially recommend 
to attention the narrow court ; but prompt 
action is necessary as all this site is scheduled 
for rebuilding. ALECK ABRAHAMS. 



(See ante. p. 29, 59.) 

^Fountain Inn 

.Fox and Bull 

Bishopsgate Street 

Exchange Alley 

-Gaunt's , . 
George Inn . . 


George's Tavern . . 
'George and Blue 

Boar Inn 
-George and Vulture 

^George and Vulture 

-Globe Tavern 

St. James's Street, next to 
St. James's Coffee House 
22 Aldermanbury 

Upper End of Haymarket 

Pall Mall 

Corner of Strand and Dever- 
eaux Court 

High Street, Southwark 
See Blue Boar. 

N.E. corner of George Yard, 

Opposite Bruce Grove, Tot- 
Craven Street, Strand 






Thornbury, ii. 250, 252. 

Hare, i. 295 ; Larwood, p. 217 ; Thornbury, 
ii. 161, 168. 

Thornbury, v. 21. 

Addison's Taller, Mar. 18. 

Addison's Taller, Nos. 147, 256. 

Swift's ' Journal,' Jan. 6. 

Fielding's ' Temple Beau,' Act I. sc. iii. 

' Life of Mrs. Cibber,' reprinted 1887, p. 12. 

Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q.,' 
Dec. 9, 1916. 

Fielding's ' Amelia,' iii. 10. 

Humphrey's 'Memoirs,' p. 216; Cunning- 
ham, p. 194 ; Smollett's ' Adventures of 
an Atom.' 

Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' p 298. 

Harben's ' Dictionary of London,' 1918, 

p. 265. 

Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 216. 
J. Fielding's ' Duke of Newcastle's Police.' 
Fielding's ' Eurydice,' a farce. 
Shenstone's ' Works," iii. 1. 
Fielding's C.G.J., No. 7. 
Roach's L.P.P., pp. 47, 49. 
Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 24. 

1748 Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q.,' 
Dec. 9, 1 16, p. 461 ; Harben's ' Dic- 
tionary of London,' 1918, p. 256 ; 
Larwood, p. 289. 
Thornbury, v. 553. 

1767 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' pp. 89, 90. 

1768 Hickey, i. 119. 

is s. vi. APRIL s. 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 



Globe Tavern 

Golden Eagle 
Golden Lyon 

Goose and Gridiron 

Gray's Inn 

Green Dragon 

Green Dragon 

Green Man 
Greyhound Inn 
Half Moon 
Hand and Racket 

Hand and Shears . 

Hand and Holly- 

Heathcock Tavern 
Hercules Pillars 

Hercules' Pillars. . . 

Hole - in - the - Wall 


Holyland's . . . . 

Horn Tavern 

Horse-shoe Inn 

Hugh Myddelton's 

Hummum's Tavern 



Jerusalem . . 

Jerusalem Tavern, 

Fleet Street 

Cockspur Street, Charing 

Charing Cross 

Suffolk Street, Haymarket 

Strand and running into 
Devereaux Court, adjoin- 
ing Tom's (2) and the 

St. Paul's Churchyard 

See Low's. 

Devereaux Court, Strand 

Bishopsgate Street 

Snow Hill 

Charing Cross 

Engine Street, Piccadilly 

Aldersgate Street 

48 Whitcomb Street, Pan- 
ton Street 

Within the area of Bar- 
tholomew Fair 

Near St. Clement's Church 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 46. 

1710 Middlesex County Records, Sessions Books,. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 287, 

1742 MacMichael's Charing Cross,' p. 106. 

1760 Hardcastle, i. 163. 

1786 ' Tunbridge Wells Guide,' 1780. 

1734 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 275. 

1735 Shelley's 'Inns,' p. 147. 

1710 "At ye siapi of ye Golden Lyon in ye- 
Stra'nde," 1910. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 62 ; MaemichnelV 

4 Charing Cross.' p. 50 ; Larwood, pv 239; 

1710 Addison's Toiler, No. 224. 

1711 Addison's Spectator, Mar. 1. 

1712 Thoresby's ' Diary,' ii. Ill, 117. 
1793 Clayden's ' Rogers,' p. 265. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., pp. 47, 49 ; Cunningham, - 
p. 210. 

Hare, i. 295 ; Besant, p. 333 ; Thornbury ,- 

ii. 161. 

1737 Price's ' Marygold,' p. 48. 

1738 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 35.- 

Gomme's G.M.L., pt. xv., p. 86. 

Besant, p. 333. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 297.- 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 156 j Thomburyy- 

ii. 243 ; Larwood, p. 350. 

Button's ' New View of London,' 1708,- 

p. 36. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 116. 

Thornbury, iii. 558. 

1749 ' Tom Jones,' xvi. 2 ; xvii. 3 ; MacMichael's - 
' Charing Cross,' p. 60 ; Cunningham, 
p. 227. 

1742 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross/ p. 306 ;T 
Warwick Wroth, p. 248. 

1742 Daily Advertiser, Mar. 5. 
Street, Bedford- MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p, 123. 

Heathcock Court, Strand 
Near Westminster Hall . . 
Hyde Park Corner (on site 
of Apsley House) 

Opposite St. Dunstan's 
Church, Fleet Street 


Near Somerset House 

New Palace Yard, West- 

Ivy Lane 

Blackman Street, Newing- 
ing Cross 

South side of Sadler's Wells 

Covent Garden 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., pp. 47, 49. 

1742 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p, 60, 

1780 Gomme's G.M.L., pt. xv., p. 73, 

1768 Hardcastle, i. 22. 

1768 Hickey, i. 93, 94. 

1738 Hogarth's ' Evening ' ; Hare, J. 214. 


Dean Streot 

St. Michael's Alley, opposite 
the African 

Exchange Alley 

St. John's Gate, 

1770 Hickey, i. 251 ; Boswell's ' Johnson ' r- 
Hare, i. 21 ; Shelley's ' Inns/ p. 128 ; 
Cunningham, p. 239. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 47. 

1794 Daily Advertiser, Jan. 4. 

Masson's ' Memoir of Goldsmith/ 1869. 
1748 Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q,,' 

Dec. 9, 1916. p. 461. 
1775 Hickey, i. 337. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 54. 
. . 1748 Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q.-' 

Dec. 9, 1916, p. 461. 
1768 Hickey, i. 130; ii. 97; Shelley's ' Irrs^ 

p. 179. 
Clerken- Thornbury, ii. 317. 

(To be continued.) 



NOTES AND QUERIES. [ 12 APRIL 3. 19-20. 


HUGH GRIFFIN, or Griffith, Provost of 
Oambrai, born about 1556, was a nephew 
-of Owen Lewis (as to whom see the ' D.N.B.' 
.-and 12 S. i. 366). He entered the English 
College at Douai at some date unknown, and 
left for England Oct. 6, 1576, danger then 
.threatening the College owing to the revo- 
lutionary spirit abroad. He returned 
Mar. 10, 1577, but left again Aug. 7, 1577, 
: as once more danger threatened (Knox, 
' Douay Diaries,' pp. Ill, 116, 127). When 
the College had removed to Rheims he 
rejoined it April 8, 1578, and after a visit to 
Cambrai, doubtless to see his uncle, he 
returned to Rheims Aug. 17, 1578 (ibid., 
;P p. 138, 143). 

Soon afterwards he appears to have 
removed to the English College at Rome of 
which his fellow-countryman, Dr. Maurice 
i-Clenock, was then rector. 

On Mar. 30, 1579, Fr. Robert Persons, 
;.S.J., in a letter to Dr. William Allen, after- 
wards Cardinal, concerning the College at 
Rome wrote : 

" When all the English put out of the College, 

one Hugh Griffin, Xephew to Mr. Archdeacon 

Lewis., is said to have given a leape into the 

Colledge Hall sayinge Whoe note but a Welchman. 

which when it came to the others eares you may 

'thinke how it sett them on, though little heed is 

'to be given to his wordes or deeds, being very free 

?an both ; for since that tyme, when one night he 

came very late home, the gates being shutt, and I, 

having charge of the Colledg, sent to know the 

.cause of his being forth so late, he said I was a 

K f? knave] and with that answered all." (See 

>Cath. Eec. Soc., ii. 136.) 

On the following April 23 Father Alfonso 
Agazzari, S.J., became Rector of the College, 
; and Hugh Griffin, being then aged 23 and a 
rStudent of logic, took the oath which was 
tendered to all the collegians (C.R.S., ii. 134). 
In 1.581 one Richard Atkins of Hertford- 
shire was delated to the Inquisition by Hugh 
Griffin, and was eventually burnt. At this 
time Griffith was still a student at the 
English College, Rome (Strype, ' Ann III.,' 
i. 55 ; ii. 187-8). 

Fr. Persons mentions (C.R.S., ii. 88) the 
expulsion of Griffin from the College "by 
-expresse commandment of Cardinal Morone 
at the suit of F. Alfonso Agazzarius," and 
says that he afterwards became Provost of 
dambrai by the resignation of his uncle. 

Cardinal Morone died in 1581, so we must 
v -presume that Griffin was expelled that year. 
Under the year 1584 Fr. Persons writes 
<(C.R.S., ii. 34) that Lewis, 

" being retynd to Milan to serve Cardl. Boromeo 
for Vicar General has left his nephew Hugh 
Griphet in Borne, a man of turbulent spirit, and 
hath procured him some favour of Card. Savelli, 
Chief Inquisitor." (C.R.S., ii. 34.) 

but I believe this date should be 1580. That 
would account for Griffin being able in 1581 
to have Atkins imprisoned by the Inquisition. 
St. Charles Borromeo died in 1584. Lewis 
was in Milan Mar. 21, 1582 (see Knox, op. cit., 
p. 343). 

In Knox's ' Letters and Memorials of. 
Cardinal Allen ' there are letters from 
Griffin to Allen himself and to Dr. Richard 
Bristow attacking the Jesuits ; and in a 
letter to Lewis written from Paris May 12, 
1579, Allen begs Lewis to moderate Griffin's 
behaviour, " who is of a bitter, odd and 
incompatible nature. . . .who for choler and 
other singularities was insupportable among 
his fellows here." 

In 1596 there occured another outbreak in 
the English College at Rome, for which, 
according to the Jesuits, the Provost of 
Cambrai, who was then at Rome, was 
largely responsible (cf. Knox, ' Douay 
Diaries,' p. 394). 

On Sept. 25, 1596, Agazzari wrote from 
Rome to Persons at Madrid (Knox, ' Douay 
Diaries,' pp. 388-9) : 

" Hugo Griffidio avanti la sua partita ha 
voluto fare un bel colpo. Invito 1'altro giorno il 
signer Baretto [i.e., Richard Barret, as to whom 
see ' D.N.B.'] a pranso, et dipoi lo retiro in 
camera, et gli diede un assalto cosi impetuoso et 
terribile che Baretto retorn6 a casa raUco et 
quasi ammalato . . . . Spero con* la gratia del 
Signore .che, partito che sia Hugone, non ci restera 
persona fuora del collegio che favorisca i tristi .... 
Raccomando anco a V. R. il sig re Heschetto .... 
Doppo la partita di Griffidio quasi tutti gl' Inglesi 
fuora del collegio dependeranno da lui." 

Who was this Hesketh ? 

Further references to Griffin are to be 
found in T. G. Law's ' Jesuits and Seculars 
under Elizabeth,' at pp. 97, 113, and in 
vol. vi. of Foley's ' Records of the English 
Province S.J.' 

T. G. Law, in ' The Archpriest Contro- 
versy,' vol. i., p. 10, refers to a letter, dated 
April 26, 1597, containing a violent diatribe 
against the Jesuits written by Griffin to a 
Welsh student at the College named Edward 

On May 15, 1597, articles for the regulation 
of the College " agreed iipon by Fr. Persons, 
&c., and confirmed by Cardinal Borghese," 
Vice-Protector of the College (in the absence 
of the Protector Cardinal Cajetan), were sent 
" A monsieur le provoste de notre dame de 
Cambraye " (see Law, ' Archpriest Contro- 
versy,' pp. 16-17). 

12 s. vi. APRIL 3, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


On May 16, 1597, Edward Bennett replied 
to Griffin telling him all about this agreement, 
And urging him to range himself on the 
Jesuit side (Cardinal Gasquet, ' The English 
College at Rome,' pp. 108, 110). 

Griffin died Provost of Cambrai (C.R.S., 
ii. 134). When did his death take place ? 

Further particulars about Hugh Grift'yth, 
as he is then called, are to be found in 
Dodd's ' Church History,' ii. 68. 


" BLOODY." During February a number 
of letters on the origin of this national 
adjective were published in The Observer. 
A good many wild conjectures were made, 
the theorists being evidently unaware of the 
-existence of the ' N.E.D.' The late Sir 
James Murray inclined to connect the word 
with " blood," in its Stuart sense of man of 
rank and fashion. This view is, I think, 
erroneous, though it receives some support 
from the very common occurrence c. 1700 
of " bloody drunk " (cf. " drunk as a lord "), 
which the ' N.E.D.' quotes from Etheredge's 
* Man of Mode ' (1676). It is noticeable that 
in early use the word is always adverbial, 
.as in its revival by Mr. Shaw on the English 
stage, so that " bloody " is really for 
"bloodily," for which it is a euphonic sub- 
stitution (cf. "pretty fair," "jolly good," 
and other adjectives in -y used adverbially). 
'The fuller form occurs, and at a much earlier 
date. In Marston's comedy ' The Faun ' 
(1606) a character is described as "cruelly 
eloquent and bluddily learned " (Act I., 
ec. ii.). The first man who used " bloody " 
or " bloodily " in this way meant no more 
than the schoolgirl who speaks of a friend as 
" awfully pretty," or describes the uncom- 
fortable operation of rules as a " beastly 
shame." He merely converted a word of 
dire or repellent signification into a meaning- 
less intensive. That the said word was for a 
long time regarded as inoffensive is clear 
from the fact that Swift writes to Stella 
(May 29, 1714) :" It was bloody hot walking 
to-day " ; while the blameless Richardson 
allows one character in ' Pamela ' to describe 
another as " bloody passionate." 

Although there is no exact parallel in modern 
French and German, it may be noted that in 
the latter language Das ist mein blutiger 
Ernst is both intelligible and cultured for the 
-equally intelligible but less cultured " I 
feloody well mean what I say." French 
sanglant is used as an intensive with such 
'words as tour, trick, injure, insult, reproche, 
(reproach, &c., while, at a much earlier date, 

Joan of Arc is said to have applied the 
epithet to her page, when he failed to call 
her in time for a skirmish. Finally, both 
Dutch bloed and German blut are prefixed to 
words in a purely intensive fashion. The 
contemporary German blutarm would, I 
suppose, be rendered " bloody poor " by 
Mr. Shaw's imitators, while the archaic 
blutdieb, explained by Ludwig (1715) as an 
" arch-thief," corresponds to the " bloody 
thief " of the outspoken classes. 


possession a copy of ' The Psalter, or Psalms 
of David,' Clarendon Press, 1828, being a 
Prayer Book with the occasional Forms of 
Prayer omitted. In this copy the names of 
William IV. and Queen Adelaide are printed 
in all the appropriate prayers, with one 
exception, viz., the Prayer for the Church 
Militant, in which the name of George is 

It has occured to me that the printers were 
unwilling to strike off a full edition in 1828, 
on account of the well-known precarious 
state of George IV.'s health (vide his ' Life,' 
by FitzGerald, vol. ii., p. 424), and that after 
printing a portion of the edition they altered 
the type to suit the event of William's suc- 
cession to the throne ; the remainder of 
the edition was printed and held in stock, 
by accident this one prayer being overlooked. 

It would be interesting to know whether 
copies of this faulty edition are common, 
or if any of your readers can correct my con- 
jecture. H. BlDDULPH, Col. 

I am sending the bill for the carriage of a 
book a heavy book, be it admitted from 
London to Switzerland in 1917. It seems 
to me to be a curiosity worthy, as a war 
" record," of a corner in ' N. & Q.' 

Requiring a big book of reference I wrote 
to the publishers begging them to send it 
to me here in Switzerland. It was, I knew, 
a little above book-post weight but, as the 
parcel-post was disorganized and parcels 
took, if ever they reached at all, months 
between London and this, I requested the 
firm to cut the book in two and send it in 
two portions by book-post, adding that it 
could be easily rebound here. The reply 
came, that it seemed a pity to injure the 
binding, so the book had been sent entire 
by a trustworthy carrier firm. 

Months passed and the book was given 
up for lost, when, one morning the parcel at 
last made its appearance. A cheque for 



21. 2s. was sent to the firm, and some weeks 
later I received the account crediting me 
with 21. 2s. and debiting me with 21. Os. 5d. 
for carriage. This seemed to me to be 
possibly an error for 2s. 5d. ; but an inquiry 
from the firm brought the answer that 
there was no mistake, and that the charge 
was as entered ; they added that the carrier's 
bill seemed large, and they sent it for my 
information. Here it is : 





Warehousing rent, 4 weeks 

Coll. & deb. 


Insurance on 3 A.R. war stamps 

. d. 
1 3 6 


2 11 


N.B.- The book weighed about 10 Ibs. ; 
so the freight works out at about 264Z. per 

Warehousing for a long period seems 
comic, as I had no desire that the book 
should have such accommodation. The 
other charges are also noteworthy. The 
total charge of upwards of 21. for the 
carriage of a book, even of big dimensions 
from London to Switzerland is probably a 
" record." It was represented by me that 
my instructions were to halve the volume, 
and send it by book-post. The firm 
answered that their manager had left them, 
and they could not account for the mistake. 
They were a firm of eminence, with whom 
I had long dealt and the account was settled 
by our halving the freight-charge, it appear- 
ing to me that this record bill was well 
worth a guinea as a curiosity an example 
of the petty difficulties which existed during 
the war. J. H. RIVETT-CABNAC. 

Standard of Jan. 13, 1920, in a notice of the 
closing of Cannock Chase military training 
camps, had : " Many young soldiers walked 
the 3J miles to Rugeley to see the former 
house of Palmer the Poisoner." 

Though over sixty years have passed since 
the famous trial which occupied twelve 
days at the Old Bailey, the above may be 
worth noting as an instance of how " the 
evil that men do lives after them." 

W. B. H. 

BUCKINGHAM, 1628. Nothing, to judge 
from the ' D.N.B.,' seems to be certainly 
known concerning Felton's father. It may 
therefore be worth while to point out that 

Francis Osborne, in the second part of his 
'. Advice to a Son ' (F. O.'s ' Works,' 1673,,. 
p. 224), after speaking of the assassin, goes 
on to say : " His Father owed an imployment 
under mine in the Office of Remembrance for 
many years." Sir John Osborne, father of 
Francis, was Treasurer's Remembrancer r 
probably from 1592 to 1628. 


We must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

NITZKY. Bogdan Chmielnitzky was the 
Hetman of the Ukraine who fought against 
the Poles, 1648" -51, and enlisted the aid of 
Alexis Romanoff, the Tsar of Moscow, 
against Poland in 1652 at the price of 
admitting Russian overlordship in 1653. \ 

What is known of his correspondence with 
Oliver Cromwell ? I have seen it stated, in 
a book on the Ukraine, that Chmielnitzky 
consulted Cromwell as to the democratic 
constitution which should best secure civil 
liberty ; and I have also found a mention of 
Cromwell's having attempted to dissuade 
Chmielnitzky from entering into relations 
with the Muscovite Grand Duke or Tsar. 


footnote on p. 334 of his ' Fleet Street and 
Downing Street ' Mr. Kennedy Jones says : 

" The ' Big Four ' was the term applied to the 
four great firms of Chicago meat packers who con- 
trolled the meat supply of the United States and 
formed themselves into a Meat Trust, now declared 

Who are these " Big Four " ? And should 
not the term be " Big Five " ? 


life of the poet prefixed to George Gilfillan's 
edition of the ' Poetical Works ' of Cowper 
(1854), vol. i., p. ix, reference is made to 
Mrs. Johnstone's " exquisite story entitled 
' The Three Westminster Boys.' " When 
was the story published and where can it be 
seen ? G. F. R. B. 

PLACES IN ' SYBIL.' What are the towns 
described in detail by Lord Beaconsfield in 
' Sybil,' under the names of Marney and 
Mowbray ? G.jjS. H. 

12 s. vi. APRIL 3, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


is an attempt to construct a pedigree of the 
family of Keith of Ravenscraig on the Ugie 
River, parish of Longside, Aberdeenshire. 
I shall be very grateful for any additions or 
corrections. Sir William Keith (d. 1521), 
son of Sir Gilbert Keith of Inverugie (d. 1495) 
by Janet (m. cr. 1455), dau. of Patrick, 1st 
Lord Graham (cr. 1445, d. 1466), m. Janet, 
dau. of Sir James Dunbar of Westfield, 
Sheriff of Moray, who appears to have had 
two wives : (a) Elizabeth, dau. of James 
Ogilvy (d. Feb. 1, 1505/6, eldest son of Sir 
James Ogilvy of Findlater) and Agnes 
Gordon, dau. of George, 2nd Earl of Huntly 
(d. 1501), and (b) Euphemia (m. 1474), dau. 
and co-heir of Patrick Dunbar of Cumnock, 
son or grandson of David, sixth son of 
George, 10th Earl of Dunbar and 5th Earl of 
March. Which of the two was Janet's 
mother ? Sir William Keith had a dau. 
Jean, who m. John Forbes, 4th Laird of 
Pitsligo (d. May 16, 1556), and four sons : 

1. Sir Alexander, who had a marriage 
contract, Oct. 12, 1501, with Beatrice, 
dau. William Hay, 3rd Earl of Erroll, but 
d.s.p. ante 1518. 

2. William, who survived his brother but 
d.v.p. having m. Janet, dau. of Andrew, 
2nd Lord Gray (d. February, 1513/14), by 
Elizabeth Stewart, dau. of John, Earl of 
Atholl, half brother to James II. By Janet 
Gray William Keith had two daus. : Margaret, 
m. ante June 30, 1538, to William, 4th Earl 
Marischal (d. Oct. 7, 1581), and Elizabeth, 
m. Dec. 19, 1538, to William, 7th Lord 
Forbes (d. 1593). 

3. Andrew Keith, who was eldest son 
living on May 24, 1521, and 

4. John Keith, who on Mar. 7, 1543, had a 
charter of Ravenscraig and other lands 
adjacent, including Buthlaw, from his niece 
Margaret Keith, Countess of Marischal. 
Who was his wife ? Had they any children 
apart from the one son Andrew Keith of 
Ravenscraig, who m. Marjory, dau. of 
Archibald Douglas (d. 1570) of Glenbervie 
by Elizabeth, dau. of Alexander Irvine, 7th 
Laird of Drum. 

Andrew Keith had a dau. Rebecca, who 
m., July or August, 1589, Sir James Gordon, 
afterwards 4th Laird and 1st Baronet of 
Lesmoir (cr. Sept. 2, 1625). King James VI. 
was present at Ravenscraig for this wedding. 
On April 1, 1589, Andrew Keith gave Buthlaw 
to his son John Keith, afterwards also of 
Ravenscraig, who m. Anne, dau. of Alexander 
Irvine, 8th Laird of Drum (d. 1603), by 
Elizabeth Keith, dau. of William, 4th Earl 

Of John Keith's three daus. (1) one m. 
George Gordon of Tilphoudie (d. Jan., 1654) ; 

(2) Anne m. James Irvine of Artamford 

(3) Margaret m. Alexander Farquharson of 
Finzean. John Keith of Ravenscraig sold 
property in 1608 to Lord Balmerino. 
Andrew Keith, who appears as "of Ravens- 
craig " on Feb. 1, 1573, had a second son 
James, living Feb. 20, 1584. 

Are any other children of John I., Andrew, 
or John II. of Ravenscraig known ? Who 
was the wife of John I. ? and when did these 
three lairds and their respective wives die ? 
Where are they buried and are any portraits 
of them known to exist and, if so, where may 
they be found ? H. PIKIE- GORDON. 

20 Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.14. 

TALON, printed by John Crook and John 
Baker at Ye Ship, St. Paul's Churchyard, 
1657. It is an exposition of the Catholic 
faith, with a dedication to King Louis XIV. 
of France. 

This volume, in the possession of the 
writer, has some interesting historical asso- 
ciations, having formerly belonged to, and 
bearing the autograph of, Henry, 3rd Lord 
Arundell, of Wardour Castle, Tisbury, Wilts, 
who, in 1678, along with other leading 
Catholic peers, Lords Petre, Stafford, Powis, 
and Belasye, was committed to the Tower of 
London, on the information of the notorious 
Titus Oates, on account of the alleged con- 
spiracy to overthrow the monarchy. 

I should be glad of any particulars relating 
to this work and its author. 

Seven Kings, Essex. 

[Nicolas Talon (1605-1691) was a French Jesuit, 
the confessor and friend of the Prince de Cond6 
and the author of several books. His ' Histoire 
Sainte ' is not without merit in the matter of style 
but it has no intrinsic value. Nevertheless, it was 
a popular work in its day, as the translation into 
English published (1653) by the Marquis of Win- 
chester goes to prove.] 

Has any reader of ' N. & Q.' encountered 
the name of this loyal cavalier in any con- 
nexion with the history of the Restoration ? 
After the death of his third wife, Mary 
Chichester, at Sydenham, Marystowe, on 
May 27, 1657, we lose all record of him. 
John Prince ('Worthies of Devon,' p. 184) 
says that he died " near about the return of 
K. Charles II." and " was forced to travel 
beyond the seas, into foreign countries." 
Dr. Oliver, arguing from the fact that 
Carys early emigrated to America, says that 
Sir Henry went to Virginia, but there seems 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 3, 1920. 

to be no historical foundation for this state- 
ment, and it is more probable that, having 
sacrificed his all in the Royalist cause, his 
one hope was in the restoration of Charles, 
and that he made his way to the French Court 
and died, either there or, as suggested by 
Prince, about the time of the king's return. 
In the latter case his burial may be recorded 
in some London church. There is no record 
of it, as far as I can ascertain, in Devon. 
Chelston Hall, Torquay. 

' ANNE OF GEIERSTEIN.' I should be 
grateful for help in elucidating any of the 
following points in this novel of Scott's : 

1. " Our Lady's Knight bless thee and prosper 
thee " (ch. ii.). Who was " our Lady's Knight " ? 

2. " A Swiss maiden should only sing Albert 
Ischudi's ballads" (ch. iv.). Who "was he? 

3. Where can I find " Matthew of Doncaster, 
a bowyer who lived at least a hundred vears ago " 
(ch. iv.), i.e., before 1370 ? 

4. Who was Bottaferma of Florence (ch. vi.) ? 
Apparently a fencing master. 

5. Where can I find " the holy hermit, Berch- 
told of Offringen " (ch. xiii.) ? 

6. " The Baron Saint Antonio be praised " 
(ch. six.). Which St. Antony was thus ennobled ? 

7. "Such an influence. .. .as the rites of the 
Druids [had] over [the mind] of the Roman 
general, when he said, 

I scorn them, yet they awe me " (ch. xxii.). 
From the way in which this is printed I take it 
to be a quotation from an English play ; it is not 
in ' Bonduca,' which seemed a likely '' earth." 

8. Charles the Bold calls Margaret of Anjou his 
cousin (ch. xxv.), but I cannot trace the relation- 

9. What is the allusion in " by the White 
Swan ! " (ch. xxx.) ? 

10. Good King Bend proposed to meet his 
daughter " in the character of old Palemon, 

The prince of shepherds, and their pride " 
(ch. xxxi.). Who was Palemon, and whence is 
the quotation ? 

11. When Margaret knelt to her father, he also 
knelt to her, " a situation in which the royal 
daughter and her parent seemed about to rehearse 
the scene of the Roman Charity " (ch. xxxi). 
What does this refer to ? 

12. Whence comes the line : 

" With hostile faces thronged and fiery arms," 

(ch. xv.) ? 

80 Hamilton Terrace, N.W.8. 

SNAITH (?). The Rev. Thomas Garden or 
Gairdyne, who was ordained minister of the 
parish of Clatt, Aberdeenshire, in 1669, 
appears to have been deprived of his living 
in 1681, probably on account of Test 
(Scott's ' Fasti,' iii. 553), and to have taken 
orders in England. He bequeathed his 

books to King's College, Aberdeen, where he 
had graduated M.A. in 1663, and where they 
are still preserved. The exact date of his 
death is not known, for the books were 
received only 

" after the death of the said Mr. Thomas's cousin, 
Mr. Robert Anderson, minister in England, and 
the said Mr. Robert being now dead the bocks 
mortified were in the hands of Mr. George 
Anderson, Rector of Lutterworth." College 
minute, Oct. 26, 1719. 

Elsewhere Garden is styled " Rector of 
Snaith," but inquiries made in the parish of 
Snaith, Yorks, fail to trace the name of 
Garden among the incumbents, so that the 
place-name is probably an error. I shall be 
grateful for any suggestion that may help me 
to identify. Garden's parish. 

The University, Aberdeen. 

SONG : ' THE SPADE.' Could any one 
inform me of the writer of the song entitled 
' The Spade,' the first line of which runs : 
" Give me a spade and the man who can 
use it " ? The song was, I believe, popular 
some few years ago. I should be glad of 
any information concerning it through the 
columns of ' N. & Q.' 

WM. J. HARRIS, Chief Librarian. 

Central Library, Holloway Road, N.7. 

seen a mention in print of a Parisian monu- 
ment which is so called. What is the object 
of it ? Was it erected as a reminder of the 
temporary loss of Alsace and Lorraine ? 


thing known of this quaint old place ? 

(Mrs.) E. E. COPE. 
Finchampstead, Berks. 

CHURCH BUILDER. This man is said to have 
been born in 1807, a son of one of the over- 
lookers in the famous Penrhyn Quarries, and 
to have died about 1870 at Beaumaris. I 
have never seen a published account of his 
life and work, but tradition says that he 
built more churches and beautiful chapels 
than any other one contractor in North 
Wales. This is very probably true. I have 
seen it stated also that he was elected a 
" Fellow of the Royal Architectural Society " 
in 1857, and subsequently a " Fellow of the 
Royal Society," and that he wrote important 
articles to The Times, on architectural sub- 
jects presumably, now and then for twenty 
years. Could any one tell me whether' all 
this is also true ? T. LLECHID JONES. 

LJysfaen Rectory, Colwyn Bay. 

s. vi. APRIL s, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


^Studies,' p. 142, the late Mr. Tollemache 
says of George Grote, the historian : 

" He had a sort of timeo Danaos feeling about 
"the authors of this half-way movement [Clerical 

Rationalism] and he had only a partial sympathy 
even with Sterling .... His view was that o"f 

Tkeodorus of Cyrene ; and he regarded the 
opposite view as containing the root and germ of 

every form of superstition." 

Who was Theodorus of Cyrene and what 
-was his " view " ? 

H. E. G. EVANS. 

St. Mary's House, Tenby. 

(12 S. v. 92, 136, 325.) 

A CORRESPONDENT asks (12 S. v. 325) how 
-are startling arithmetical combinations ar- 
rived at. I cannot say exactly, but I can 
give a specimen, in which the total of every 
rank and of every file is 260, and on any 
.straight line through the centre of the board 
the difference between the numbers on two 
-squares equidistant from the centre is 32. 
Here are the figures in order : 10, 35, 48, 23, 
38, 29, 50, 27 ; 47, 22, 11, 36, 49, 26, 39, 30 ; 
34, 9, 24, 45, 32, 37, 28, 51 ; 21, 46, 33, 12, 
.25, 52, 31, 40 ; 8, 63, 20, 57, 41, 1, 14, 53 ; 
19, 60, 5, 64, 13, 56, 41, 2 ; 62, 7, 58, 17, 4, 
43, 54, 15 ; 59, 18, 61, 6, 55, 16, 3, 42. 

I do not think a square in which each 
diagonal (as well as every rank and file) 
totals 260 can be made by the knight's tour ; 
but leaving the knight's tour aside, many 
:such squares can be made, with this fact 
added, that every pair of adjacent numbers 
(taking them in pairs from the edge) totals 
5, with the consequence that if the board 
fee regarded as one of 16 great squares, each 
.great square consisting of 4 chess squares, 
then the figures on every great square total 
1 30. Here is a specimen, in which the odd 
numbers are all on white squares on the outer 
two ranks and files, and all on black squares 
of the middle 16 : 1, 64, 25, 40, 43, 22, 51, 14 ; 
32, 33, 8, 57, 54, 11, 46, 19 ; 21, 44, 52, 13, 2, 
63, 39, 26 ; 12, 53, 45, 20, 31, 34, 58, 7 ; 
-59, 6, 30, 35, 48, 17, 9, 56 ; 38, 27, 3, 62, 49, 
16, 24, 41 ; 47, 18, 55, 10, 5, 60, 29, 36 ; 
50, 15, 42, 23, 28, 37, 4, 61. 

It is quite easy to make a magic square 
fcy rule of thumb on the square of any odd 
number. The middle number takes the 
middle square, and the sum of each pair of 
slumbers equidistant from the centre on 

opposite sides twice the middle number. 
Squares of even numbers are difficult, and I 
know of no rule for constructing them. 

A. M. B. IRWIN. 

Some of the readers of ' N. & Q.' interested 
in this problem may not have access to 
Tomlinson's ' Amusements in Chess,' as it 
has long been out of print, or to other more 
modern works on chess which deal with it ; 
I therefore offer them the key to its solution 
as enunciated by Dr. Roget. 

The solution consists in the right applica- 
tion of certain geometrical figures executed 
by the knight in the course of his tour. 
These figures are the " diamond " and the 
" square," and their right application is 
dominated throughout by the " cross," and 
conditioned by a law of alternation. 

To cover the board in 63 leaps, starting 
from any square, the knight has to resort 
to two classes of moves, viz. : the diamond 
and the square. Hence arise two systems of 
moves, comprising 32 squares each. These 
two systems are again divisable into four of 
16 squares each, giving two diamond and 
two square systems, the alternation of the 
use of which, offering a prescribed law, fur- 
nishes an unfailing solution of the problem 
under all conditions. 

Below is a diagram of the board as 
apportioned out into its two diamond and 
two square systems : 



































































Let a and 6 enumerate the two diamond 
systems, and x and y the two square, 

Before applying this key to specific cases, 
the following facts must be observed : that 



when the knight is on any square of one of 
the diamond systems he cannot pass to a 
square on the other diamond system : 
similarly, when on a square of one of the 
square systems, he cannot pass to a square 
on the other square system. He can only 
pass from a diamond to a square system, 
and from a square to a diamond system. 
It follows therefore that if the knight starts 
from any square in a diamond system to 
end his tour on any unprescribed square of a 
different colour, the sequence must take this 
order : diamond, square, diamond, square. 
Similarly, if he starts from any square in a 
square system, the order must be square, 
diamond, square, diamond. Dr. Roget's 
method in this case is to complete each system 
of 16 " halts " before passing on to the next 

It is interesting to observe how the figure 
of the cross dominates the arena. This is 
especially apparent when counters of four 
different colours to mark the " halts " of the 
knight are used. Dividing the keyboard 
into four quarters, it will be at once seen that 
in each quarter the eight square squares have 
assumed the cross form ; likewise the eight 
diamond squares ; that the two diamonds 
cut crossway throvigh the cross formed 
squares ; finally that there is a cross at the 
centre of the board composed of a portion 
of the two diamond systems. 

There are two classes of tours : the un- 
prescribed terminal and the prescribed 
terminal. In either case the starting square 
is optional ; but in the class of a prescribed 
terminal, this must be of a different colour 
from that of the terminal ; so only optional as 
to 32 squares. The following is an example 
of an unprescribed terminal tour, which 

































































quite unintentionally on my part furnishes- 
an example of the re-entering type of 
tours, the starting and the terminal 
squares being one move apart. Such a 
tour gives rise to an interminable 
network. From a tour of this type it 
is maintained by one French author and 
student of the game that no fewer than- 
128 variants could be accomplished. 

The following is an example of a prescribed 
terminal tour, which also consists of two- 
classes : one when the terminal square is in 
the same system as the starting square ; the 
other when it is in any of the other three 
systems. We will take the latter first. The 
starting square is in a diamond system, the 
terminal in a square. Proceed as follows r 
Complete the first diamond system. Observe- 
in which of the two square systems now 
open to you the terminal square is located. 
Give it the go-by. Pass to the other square 
system ; then to the remaining diamond 1 
system, and lastly to the square system in 
which the terminal is located, taking care 
that this quarter of the board receives your 
last attention : 

































































But let the terminal square be located' 
in the same or allied system as the starting 
square : how shall we proceed ? As follows : 
(1) In the case of the same system. Suppose 
starting point = Black's Q 3 ; terminal = 
White's K Kn 4. These are both in the- 
same square system. Make one leap in thi 
square system. (Some authorities recom- 
mend two or more. Dr. Roget recommends- 
a larger number.) The object is to get at 
once on to a diamond system, so as to throw 
this first square system to the end of the 
process. Then proceed : diamond, square,, 
diamond, square :,itt.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


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(2) In the case of an allied system. Suppose 
starting point = White's Q R 6 ; terminal = 
White's K R 2. These are in different 
square systems. Complete the first square 
system ; then the first diamond system ; then 
cover two squares of the terminal square 
system ; then complete the second diamond 
system ; lastly, cover the 14 remaining 
squares of the second square system in which 
the terminal is located. Take care that you 
visit this quarter of the board last : 





21 6 






1 3 

54 43 







5 24 








46 51 







25 12 








62 47 







11 ! 28 







48 61 




According to a French author of the last 
century, a M. Solvyns has demonstrated 
that the Knight's tour can be done in 20,160 
different ways ; and a M. 1'Abbe Durand has 
developed a method of solution still more 
sure than this of Dr. Roget. It is to be found 
in the Regence for 1856, p. 366. Have any of 
your chess-playing readers access to this old 
periodical ? One would like to learn what 

the cleric's method is, and if it is really surer 
than the mathematician's. Need I add that 
none of these examples are taken from the- 
" books " ? JOHN W. BROWN. 

MATHEW MYEBSE (12 S. vi. 36). Im 
saying that this Winchester Scholar of 1547 
came from "Milton," MB. WAINEWBIGHT 
seems to have adopted a statement which, 
occurs in Kirby's book, at p. 127, but which, 
is due to a mis-reading of the entry in our 
Register of admissions. The original entry 
runs thus : 

" Matheua Myersse, de My lion, Weschester 
diocesis, xi annorum in festo mitalis domini* 

The boy was one of twenty-four who took- 
the scholars' oath here, in the Warden's 
chamber, on Sept. 5, 1551, and the record 
of that event, in our Register " O," describes- 
him, with less precision than might be 
expected from a public notary, as " Matheus 
Myars de Northehumberlande in comitatu 
Lanquishere." However, there can be no- 
doubt that he hailed from Millom in Cumber- 
land, which, though now in the diocese oi 
Carlisle, was formerly in that of Chester. 
Millom seems to have been the home of a 
family of Myers for many generations, for 
Foster's ' Alumni Oxonienses ' mentions- 
Robert Myers, son of William, of " Millum," 
Cumberland, who went to Queen's College in> 

To the entry quoted above from our 
Register of admissions there is an old* 
marginal note, but the ink has faded badly,, 
and I am only sure about the first word of it, 
" Informator." MB. WAINEWBIGHT has- 
already stated that Mathew Myers became 
prebendary of Highleigh, and perhaps the- 
note relates indirectly to that fact, for 
Bishop Edward Storey, when he founded the- 
prebendal school at Chichester in. 1497 
attached the stall of Highleigh to the head- 
mastership. H. C. 
Winchester College. 

MBS. GOBDON, NOVELIST (12 S. vi. 38). 
This was the daughter of Sir David Brewstei 
(1781-1868), the natural philosopher, and 
her Christian names were Margaret Maria, 
her married name was Gordon. In addition 
to her novels she wrote the ' Home Life of Sir 
David Brewster ' (Edinburgh, 1869), which 
ran through three editions. Some of her 
novels sold by the many thousand ; ' Little- 
Millie,' for instance, went to 56,000, and. 
' Sunbeams in the Cottage,' 44,000. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 3, 1920. 

VALUE OF MONEY (12 S. vi. 36). See 
Hallam's ' View of the State of Europe during 
-the Middle Ages' (1826), vol. iii., p. 445 ff. 
for changes in the value of money. On 
p. 450 he gives the following table, which he 
says is taken from Sir Frederick Eden 
(presumably from the work entitled ' The 
;State of the Poor,' 1797, which abounds in 
statistics regarding prices) : 

Value of pound sterling (present money). 


I. 8. d. 

2 18 1 

2 17 5 

2 12 5 

2 11 8 

1 18 9 

1 11 

7 6| 


1545 " 







1. s. d. 
1 3 3} 
13 Hi 

" The unit or present value refers to that 
of the shilling before the last coinage, which 
^reduced it," he says, i.e., to the third issue of 
George III. (1798), when the proportion was 
.still kept at 92 - grs. to the shilling. 

In this, as well as in the following section, 
some interesting information about prices is 
given : e.g., 25 eggs cost a silver penny 
Ibetween 1415 and 1425. 

Further information, beyond that which 
can be obtained from the published account- 
foooks of convents, &c., will be found in 
Ruding's 'Annals of the Coinage' (1819), 
pp. 15-34, where valuable tables are given ; 
.and the fineness of all the coins of every 
issue can be learnt from Grueber's ' Hand- 
,book of the Coins of Great Britain and 
Ireland' (1899). G. R. DKIVEK. 

MORBUS ANGLICUS (12 S. v. 180). 
.According to the received account the 
sweating sickness was first known at the 
^beginning of the reign of Henry VII. 
Polydore Vergil says : 

" Eodem anno nouum morbi genus pervasit per 
totum regnum, sub primum Henrici in insulam 
descensum, dira quidem lues, & quam nulla sit 
setas antea, quod constet, perpessa : subito enirn 
-sudor mortifer corpus tentabat . . . . " ' Anglica 
historia,' lib. xxvi., p. 567, ed. 1570. 

Erasmus writes with less precision in his 
dedication of 'Lingua' (1525): " Sudorem 
letiferum ante annos triginta non novit 
Anglia," and in a letter dated April 23, 1533, 
speaks of the " scelerata pestis " as being too 
well known to the English for over forty 
years past. 

We should not then expect this disease to 
<be mentioned by the specific name of 
" Morbus Anglicus " more than eighty years 
^before its supposed first appearance. 

* Coinage debased. 

MB. FAWCETT'S query assumes that the 
inscription is still to be seen in the church. 
If so it would be as well to examine it 
carefully, not only to determine the date, but 
to set the reader's mind at rest with regard to 
the singular latinity that appears in the 

If, however, the copy is taken from Joseph 
Hunter's 'History and Topography of the 
Deanery of Doncaster,' it should be noted 
that the wording of this and other inscriptions 
depends on a copy made from a set of notes 
taken by a monk of Roche. According to 
Hunter the originals no longer remain in the 
church at Hatfield. In more than one case 
he suspects an error in the date. It is 
Hunter's suggestion that the sweating 
sickness was intended by " morbus Anglicus." 
The correct title of Gideon Harvey's book, in 
its second edition, is ' Morbus Anglicus : Or 
the Anatomy of Consumptions ' (not " Con- 
sumption "). In the first edition it ran ' Or 
a Theoretick and Practical Discourse of 
Consumptions.' Hunter gives " Consump- 
tions " correctly. 

It may be worth adding that from about 
the middle of the seventeenth century 
" morbus Anglicus " was applied to rickets. 
See Dr. Greenhill's note on the words " the 
disease of his country, the Rickets " in 'A 
Letter to a Friend,' p. 297 of the " Golden 
Treasury " edition of ' Religio Medici. 1 
" Die englische Krankheit " still bears this 
meaning in German. Nor should we forget 
George Cheyne's work on Hypochondria, 
' The English Malady.' Dr. Cheyne begins 
his preface : I 

" The Title 1 have chosen for this Treatise, is a 
Reproach universally thrown on this Island by 
Foreigners, and all our Neighbours on the Con- 
tinent, by whom Nervous Distempers. Spleen, 
Vapours, and Lowness of Spirits, are, in Derision, 
called the ENGLISH MALADY." 

Much Hadham, Herts. 
[JOHN B. WAINEWBIGHT also thanked for reply.] 

QUOTATION FROM HOOD (10 S. xii. 109). 
At the above reference DIEGO asked for the 
source of : 

And there were crystal pools, peopled with fish. 
Argent and gold ; and some of Tyrian skin, 
Some crimson-barred. 

This is taken from the beginning of 
stanza iv. in ' The Plea of the Midsummer 
Fairies,' by Thomas Hood. 

As the Series Indexes of ' N. & Q.' are 
gradually building up a Dictionary of 
Quotations on an ample scale it may be 
worth recording, though late, the answer 

12 8. VI. APRIL 3, 1920.] NOTES AND Q UERIES. 


vi. 11). The maiden name of the General' 
another was Julia Neale, and she was the 
-daughter of a merchant who resided a 
Parkersburgh in Wood County on the Ohio 

After the death of her husband, Jonathar 
-Jadkson, she married in 1830 a widower 
named Woodson, but she was in such reducer 
circumstances that her children were brough 
up by her first husband's relatives. She dieo 
of consumption on Dec. 4, 1831. 

[CAPT. FIEEBRACE also thanked for reply.] 

CANTRELL FAMILY (12 S. v. 291, 332). 
It is hardly correct to say that there is a 
unonument in St. Peter's Church, Derby, in 
memory of the Rev. Thomas Cantrell 
'There once was such a monument, the in- 
scription on which is given bv Glover in his 
' History of Derby ' (p. 518) : 

" Reliquiae Thomse Cantrelli : A. M. Scholaichse 


Reader here lies the dust, deny't who ran, 

Of a learned, faithful, and well-natur'd man.' 
The stone bearing this inscription was 

originally placed on the floor at the west 
end of the " middle " aisle of St. Peter's. 

But the treading of many feet and various 
-restorations of the church have worn it 
away or caused it to be broken up, and it has 
-been non-existent for half a century or more. 
'The following is extracted from the Register 

of Burials at St. Peter's : 

"1697/8. Sepult. Thomas Cantrlll Scholar: 
che Darb. 23 ti8 die mensis Mart." 

Taehella in ' The Derby School Register ' 
gives the following Cantrells (in addition to 
'the above) : 

" Henry Cantrell, b. 1684-5. Son of the above- 
mentioned Kev. Thomas Cantrell, educated at 
Derby School 19(?)-1701, and at Emm. Coll. 
Camb. B.A. 1704, M.A. 1710, incorp. Oxford 
1756, Vicar of S. Alkmunds, Derby, 1712-1773. 
Prominent controversialist. Author of ' In- 
validity of Lay Baptism,' 1714, ' Dissenting 
'Teachers.' 1714, ' The Royal Martvr,' 1716, &c. 

(died 1773). 

" Canlrell, Henry, b. 1711. Son of Eev. Henry, 
Vicar of St. Alkmund's. Died young. Monu- 
ment in St. Alkmund's. 

" Cantrell, William, b. 1715. Also son of Rev. 
Henry, Vicar of St. Alkmund's. Educated at 
Derby School 1725-30 and afterwards at Repton 
.and St. John's, Camb., B.A. 1738. Rector of 
rSt. Michael's, Stamford, Lines., and of Normanton, 
-co. Rutland. Monument in St. Alkmund's (died 
Jan. 17, 1787).| 

" Cantrell. Joseph Craddock, b. 1738. Educated 
-at Derby School and at Brasenose College, Oxford, 
where ho matriculated in 1757. 

" Cantrell, William, circa 1753. A bookseller in 


The Close, Salisbury. 

OFFICER (12 S. v. 38, 106). With reference 
to SIR RICHARD TEMPLE'S query and the 
REV. A. G. KEALY'S interesting notes on the 
subject, I have recently found other in- 
stances of the use of an even number of guns 
for burials at sea and also on land. 

On Sept. 29, 1702, Daniel Du Bois, 
merchant at Fort St. Geroge, Madras, was 
" interr'd with honours, 3 volleys and 12 
great guns " (' Factory Records, Fort 
St. George,' vol. xii.-). 

On July 16 Capt. Wyatt was buried at 
Fort St. George " A Company of Soldiers 
marcht before the Corbs [sic], which when 
buryed, fired three Volleys, and the Garrison 
fired six great gunns " ('Factory Records, 
Fort St. George,' vol. xiii.). 

On Jan. 29, 1705, at the burial of Capt. 
Henry Sinclare, second-lieutenant of the 
Fort Soldiers in the Garrison of Fort 
St. George, " twelve Great Gunns " were 
" discharged " (' Madras Public Proceedings,' 
vol. Ixxxiii.). 

On Mar. 19, 1709/10, the Log of the 
Tavistock has the following entry : " Yester- 
day in the afternoon we buried Mr. Mildmay, 
hoisting our Coullers half mast and fired 
12 Guns, the Wentworth doeing the same 
and fired 8 Guns" ('Marine Records,' 
vol. dxciii.b). 

The funeral of Capt. John Slade, who died 
at sea on June 2, 1636, was an exception to 
the rule of firing an even number of guns. 
He was buried " with a salute of fifteen guns 
and three volleys of small shot " (Foster, 
' English Factories,' 1634-36, p. 305). 


CAPT. B. GRANT (12 S. v. 238, 298). There 
was in 1808 a Brodie Grant, captain 95th 
Foot from Sept. 28, 1804 ; but he left the 
army before 1811. MR. PIERPOINT has done 
good service in supplying the clue that 
Bernard and Charles Grant both fought in the 
anks at Waterloo. Hart's ' New Annual 
Army Lists ' (evidently the source of Dalton's 
nformation) say that : " Quarter-Master 
Bernard Grant served the campaign of 1815, 
ncluding the battle of Waterloo and capture 
f Paris." The ' (Official Annual) Army 
Ast ' for 1853/4 gives the further detail that 
e was placed on half -pay of Q.M. 82nd Foot 
n Feb. 11, 1848, and the same authority for 
1857/8 (dated April 1, 1857) places "him 
under the wrong initial of " R. Grant, 
Q.M. on h.p. 82 F.") under the heading 
Casualties ' in the list of ' Deaths since the 
<ast Publication.' As Hart, 1857 (corrected 
o Dec. 29, 1856), contains his name, he 


NOTES AND QUEltlES. [ A L 3, 1920: 

apparently died early in 1857. As there is 
no record either of his having been wounded, 
or of his being made a captain, I rule his name 
out and suggest that in " Capt. B. Grant " 
a clerical error has been made, and that the 
man who fulfils both conditions was Capt. 
Charles Grant, for Hart, 1865, says of him 
that he was granted (with several other 
Q.M.s) the " Honorary rank of Captain, 
July 1, 1859," having gone on half -pay of 
Q.M. 23rd R.W.F., Mar. 17, 1854. As his 
name does not appear in Hart, 1866, it is 
presumed he died in 1865. Dalton very 
likely only included such names as he had 
come across. 

Although at the present day, as in 1853, 
quarter-masters are usually promoted from 
X.C.O.s of long service and merit, and granted 
the honorary rank of lieutenant or captain, 
this was by no means the case during the 
eighteenth century, when about half the 
appointments of adjutants and quarter- 
masters were conferred upon young ensigns 
or lieutenants, who frequently held the post 
until promoted to the rank of captain, and 
in some cases eventually became general 
officers. The most notable instances are 
those of General Sir Thomas Picton, who 
fell at Waterloo, who when an ensign in the 
12th Foot at Gibraltar was also made 
quarter-master thereof, May 6, 1776 ; the 
same position, curiously enough, having been 
held by his uncle, Lieut. -General William 
Picton, who, while a lieutenant in the same 
regiment, became its quarter-master, Dec. 9, 
1752, as appears from the Army List, 1754. 

GEORGE SHEPHERD (12 S. v. 295,332; vi. 
25). I am obliged for the replies to my query 
but they do not help me appreciably. I 
had consulted the British Museum Catalogue 
of English Drawings and Bryan's ' Dic- 
tionary,' which chiefly repeats Redgrave, but 
these books are not infallible. Dropping the 
alternative spelling of the name with an a, 
which I merely gave because Bryan and 
Redgrave's " George Shepheard " seems to 
be my " George Shepherd," I will now 
amplify my statement, with slight variations, 
the result of further research. It has been 
my lot to examine most of the portfolios in 
the Grace Collection and I have the catalogue. 
I have also looked through a considerable 
part of the vast collection of London views 
now belonging to Sir Edward Coates, and 
have the catalogue of the collection formed 
by the late Mr. J. H. Wilson, which was 
dispersed by auction in 1898. In all these 
one finds a large numer of examples, chiefly 

water-colours, by that most industrious? 
artist Thomas Hosmer Shepherd, who is not 
mentioned by Bryan or Redgrave. To- 
judge from the Grace catalogue, wherein his 
name occurs probably more than a hundred 
times, his working life extended from 1814 or 
earlier to 1859. George Shepherd's name 
appears first in the designer of a view of 
Cheapside published by Ackerman as a. 
coloured print in 1792. He was especially 
busy in 1809-12, and continued certainly 
until 1830, perhaps longer. His works are 
common enough. So far, among the collec- 
tions referred to, I have only found two 
London subjects by artists named Shepherd 
which are catalogued with other initials than- 
those of George and Thomas Hosmer ; these 
are L. G. and G. H., both in the Grace- 
collection, and they are perhaps clerical- 

After sending my original query I met my 
good friend Mr. I. D. Grace, F.S.A., now, 
alas ! no more, who was keenly interested 
in London and whose father made the 
collection known by his name. I asked him 
if he knew whether T. H. Shepherd was son 
of George and he replied : " My father told 
me that he was." This is rather strong 
evidence, but I am still doubtful. Perhaps- 
some one would be good enough to- com- 
municate with me direct. There- may be 
descendants or relations who will read this.. 

45 Evelyn Gardens, S.W.7. 

CAPT. J. C. GRANT DUFF (12 S. vi, 13, 47). 
Particulars as to Capt. Grant Duffs eareer 
are to be found in the ' D.N.B.' and in the 
' Book of the Duffs,' by A. and H. Tayler, 
vol. ii., p. 495. I shall be glad to- make 
arrangements for furnishing a photograph of- 
a portrait of Capt. Grant Duff. 


High Elms Cottage, Orpington, Kent. 

ROMELAND, ST. ALBANS (12 S. v. 294; 
vi. 48). As a confirmation of the derivation 
of a place-name in towns from rum, not Rome,, 
may I say that the whole space about 
Blackball in Oxford, at the opening of the 
Banbury Road, was once colloquially called 
Rome ? The situation is precisely like that, 
at Waltham, as cited by the Rev. G. H. 
Johnson, and at other town-ends known to* 
MR. N. W. HILL. The Oxford rum lies 
beyond what was in mediaeval days the 
northern end of the town, and neighbours- 
St. Giles's Church. It was a most con- 
venient waste land in old days for carters 
and waggoners, and is still the spot where,. 

12 B. vi. AI-KII. 3, 14-20.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


every September. St. Giles's Fair unloads its 
miscellaneous wonders. I cannot, where I 
a,m. refer to Wood to see whether he mentions 
the Oxford Rome ; but it will be found (ni 
Jailor) in the late Mr. Herbert Hurst's 
'invaluable * Oxford Topography,' published 
,by the Oxford Historical Society. 

L. I. G. 

I suppose the question means : Did eight men 
who fought at Waterloo take holy orders 
-afterwards ? From Mr. Dalton's ' Waterloo 
Roll Call ' I learn that five men at least did. 
These are : 

Colonel Algernon Langton, 61st Foot, 
A.D.C. to Sir T. Picton. 

Lieut. Wm. Bellairs, 15th Light Dragoons 
^Hussars), later Vicar of Hunsingore, Yorks. 

Ensign Charles R. K. Dallas, 32nd Regi- 
ment, late curate of Mitcheldever, Whit- 
church, Hants. 

Ensign Wm. Leeke, 52nd L.I., later 
.author of ' Lord Seaton's Regiment at 
Waterloo ' and incumbent of Holbrooke, 
Derbyshire, 1840-79. 

Assistant Commander-General A. R. C. 
'Dallas, later rector of Wonston, Hants. 

I was under the impression that Rev. 
Wyndham Carlyon Madden had also been at 
Waterloo, but his death does not appear in 
Mr. Dalton's list. Of many Waterloo 
officers Mr. Dal ton has no information. 



LIQUEURS : WINE LABELS (12 S. vi. 40). In 
all probability the labels referred to by MR. 
E. T. BALDWIN would be for Avine decanters, 
but it is difficult to state definitely without 
-an examination. Have they small chains 
-attached thereto ? I append list of similar 
mostly late eighteenth-century - labels that 
.are in my possession. These are all made 
rfrom silver or old Sheffield plate : 

Ginger Brandy. Hollands. 

Cordial. Hock. Beer. 

Shrub. Whiskev. Curaco. 

Madeira. White-wine. Calcavella. 

Port. Peppermint. Tenneriffe. 

Buceltas. Cherry- W.-Port 

Claret. Bounce. Vidonia. 

Lunel. Bum. Kyan. 

Sherry. Gin. Soy. 

Marsala. Lisbon. Ketchup. 

Sietges. Mountain. Anchovy. 

Paxarette. Sweet-wine. 

'The last five labels are of much smaller size 

and were obviously for use on cruet bottles. 

As these labels are all of English origin anc 

.appear to have been much used by their 

former owners, one is struck by the fact that 
;o-day the variety of intoxicants in daily use 
joiistitutes a very small proportion of those 
n fashion a century or more ago. 



I feel pretty sure that wine of Cypress is 
what is meant. Sugar of Cyprus is frequently 
mentioned in the Durham Account Rolls 
,Surtees Soc.) ; they got it by the barrel, and 
wine of Crete is mentioned once. Cyprus, 
ike other Mediterranean lands, produces wine 
and oil at the present time. J. T. F. 

Winterton, Doncaster. 

In answer to MR. E. T. BALDWIN, 
Cockagee ' ' was a variety of Devonshire cider. 
In Bailey's Magazine, April, 1874, was pub- 
lished a Devonshire story with many alltisions 
to this cider, among which is the following : 
" Above all, the Cockagee cider, rich in colour, 
full of body, and so delicious in flavour." 
Also: "I've often heard of Cockagee, bv.t 
never tasted it before." 

" Cypress " was no doubt the Cyprus 
vintage of which Prof. H. S. Boyd sent a 
sample as a present to Mrs. Browning and 
which she acknowledged in her poem ' Wine 
of Cyprus,' addressed to him and containing 
much appreciation of the wine, e.g. : 
Go let others praise the Chian 

This is soft as Muses' string, 
This is tawny as Bhea's lion, 
This is rapid as his spring. 

,., C. R. MOORE. 


Is Mrs. Browning quite forgotten ? 

If old Bacchus were the speaker 
He would tell y( u with a sigh, 
Of the Cyprus in this beaker 
I f>m sippu g like i fly. 

' Wine of Cyprus,' i. 

Greek wine, it may be remembered, was the 
Young Pretender's " partikler wanity " in 
his declining years. EDWARD BENSLY. 

" Cockagee " is Somerset cider in fact, 
it has been pronounced by an excellent 
judge as king of all the Somerset ciders, and 
that never was nectar more delicious. Full 
flavoured, soft, creamy, yet vigorous, it was 
preferred to any champagne. We natives 
of this wonderful county often wonder 
where are the ciders of old and what has 
become of the once famous Cocky Gee. 



There is an apple used for cider called 
Cockagee. This probably explains the label. 

Allington, Maidstone. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 8. vi. APRIL 3 1920. 

(12 S. iv. 330; v. 107, 161, 273; vi. 44). 
There was certainly a John, Bishop of 
Dromore, in the fifteenth century, but there 
is nothing to indicate that his succession was 
disputed. According to Gams (" Series 
Episcoporum," ' Ecclesise Cajholicae,' Ratis- 
bon, 1873, p. 217) he held the see from 1410 
to 1418. and died in 1433. He resigned in 
1418. Eubel ('Hierarchia Catholica Medii 
Aevi.' Minister, 1898, i. 236) gives the same 
dates, adding that he was a Benedictine 
monk of Bury St. Edmund's, was a Bachelor 
of Theology, and a " noblis," while his 
surname was " Curlw or de Choules." 
Neither work mentions any foreign see with 
a name resembling " Dromorens " the 
Latin form of Dromore is Dromorensis. 

W. A. B. C. 

HALLOWE'EN (12 S. vi. 39). MB. CHAPMAN 
will find desirable information in Brand's 
' Antiquities,' vol. i., p. 377 ; Chambers's 
' Book of Days,' vol. ii., p. 319 ; Hone's 
' Everyday Book,' vol. i., p. 630 ; vol. ii., 
p. 704 ; Spence's ' Shetland Folk-Lore,' 
p. 169 ; Campbell's ' Superstitions of the 
Scottish Highlands,' pp. 18, 260; and, I 
should think, in almost all books treating of 
North British manners and customs. I hope 
I have copied these figures accurately. I 
am getting humiliatingly blind. 


JOWETT MADE " (12 S. v. 288 ; vi. 19, 50). In 
* Facetia Cantabridgienses,' London, 1836, 
n. 200, are two English versions of the 
epigram, both different from that given at the 
last reference. Also a Latin version, be- 
ginning : " Exiguum hunc hortum fecit 
Jowettulus iste." One of the English 
versions had appeared in Blackwood 's 
Magazine, no reference given, authorship not 
known, " unless it originated with Porson, 
as was declared to xis by a Gentleman, in 
whose veracitv we have great confidence." 

J. T. F. 

Winterton. Doncaster. 

LIEUT. -GENERAL SHAKPE (12 S. v. 321). 
Hoddam Castle is in Cummertrus parish, 
Dumfries-shire, and is now the residence of 
Mr. E. J. Brook, whose father, I believe, 
acquired it from the Sharpe family. 

Matthew Sharpe was born 1773 ; cornet 
16th (the Queen's) Regiment of (Light) 
Dragoons Feb. 18, 1791 ; lieutenant, Feb. 19, 
1793 ; captain 26th (the Duke of York's 
Own) Regiment of (Light) Dragoons Mar. 25, 
1795; major, Feb.^27, 1796; lieutenant- 

colonel, Aug. 5, 1799 ; colonel, Oct. 25, 1809 ;. 
on half-pay, Dec. 28, 1809 ; major-general,- 
Jan. 1, 1812 ; lieutenant-general, May 27,. 
1 825. He served in all the earlier continental 
campaigns in Flanders, Holland, &c., up to 
his appointment as general officer. Under 
the Reform Bills of 1832 he was the first 
M.P. (Whig) for Dumfries Burghs, from 
1832-41. He died 1845. 


There is no such place as Haddam Castle, 
co. Northumberland. Hoddam Castle is- 
intended. This ancient biiilding is beauti- 
fully situated on the south bank of the River - 
Annan, 1 mile from Ecclefechan, a village in 
the parish of Hoddam, Annandale, Dumfries- 
shire, and in 1826 is described as in excellent 
conditions, being then the residence of - 
Sharpe, Esq. (see the 18th ed. of Paterson's 
' Road Book,' p. 230). 

Jas. Finlay's 'Directory of Gentlemen's 
Seats, Villages, &c., in Scotland ' for 1843 
gives Hoddam Castle as the residence of" 
General Sharpe, while the 1851 edition has 
Admiral Sharpe. Hoddam Castle does not 
occur in the 1862 edition, but in the 1868 
edition (edited by N. W. Halliburton) the 
Castle is given as the residence of Wm. J. 

Since writing the above I have looked up- 
' The Scottish Nation,' by Wm. Anderson, 
1863, and in vol. iii., pp. 445-6, find an 
interesting account of the Sharpes of" 
Hoddam. The full name of Lieut. -General 
Sharpe is General Matthew Sharpe. His 
ancestor John Sharpe purchased the estate 
and castle of Hoddam from the Earl of 
Southesk in 1690. The granduncle of the 
General was Matthew Sharpe of Hoddam 
who fought at Preston on the side of Prince 
Charles, and died in 1769, aged 76. The 
General was the eldest son of Charles Kirk- 
patrick (afterwards Chas. K. Sharpe, on 
succeeding to the estate of Hoddam), 
grandson of Sir Thomas Kirkpatrick of 
Closeburn, the second baronet of his line. 

General Matthew Sharpe was M.P. for the 
Dumfries Burghs from 1832 to 1841. and was 
a Whig of extremely liberal politics. His 
mother was Eleanor, daughter of John Renton 
of Lamberton (not Lammerton as in Burke' s 
' Peerage and Baronetage '), a lady whose- 
charms have been commemorated by 
Smollett in ' Humphry Clinker.' The 
father of the General matriculated from the 
University of Glasgow (see ' The Matricula- 
tion Albums,' 1728-1858, by W. Innes 
Addison, 1913) in 1762. and is there described 

" filius unicus Gulielmi de Ellies Land in 

12 s. vi. APRIL 3, i92o.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Comitatu de Niddesdale, Armigeri." He 
became advocate in 1772, was one of the 
principal Clerks of Session, and died in 
March, 1813. Besides the General he had, 
with other issue, Chas. Kirkpatrick Sharpe 
(1781-1851), the antiquary and wit, for 
whom see ' The Scottish Nation ' before 
referred to. Jane Higgins, the wife of the 
General, was daughter of Godfrey Higgins 
(ob. 1833) of Skellow Grange, near Don- 
caster, not Skelton Grange, as given by 
Hunter (see Burke' s ' Commoners,' vol. ii., 
p. 155, and ' The Landed Gentry,' 2nd, 3rd, 
and 4th eds). 

For further information see the above 
authorities and ' Memoir respecting the 
Family of Kirkpatrick of Closeburn,' 1858. 
I have a reference to a Sharp pedigree in 
Stodart's ' Scottish Arms,' vol. ii., p. 369. 

204 Hermon Hill, South Woodford. 

Hoddam Castle (not Haddam), the house 
of the Sharpe family, of which the late Kirk- 
patrick Sharp is a well-known member, is not 
in Northumberland but over the border in 
Dumfries-shire, not far from Ecclefechan, the 
birthplace of Thomas Carlyle. 

R. B R. 

PSEUDONYMS (12 S. v. 293, 329). The 
author of ' From Sedan to Saarbruck, 1870,' is 
Lieut. Henry Knollys, Royal Artillery. He 
is still living and is now Colonel Sir Henry 
Knollys, K.C.V.O. J. H. LESLIE. 

Gunnersholmej JVi e Ibourne Avenue, Sheffield. 

WORD (12 S. vi. 41). I have succeeded in 
tracing another instance, though of later 

1697, Dryden, ' ^Eneid,' vii. 737 : 

Thus, when a black-brow'd gust begins to rise, 
White foam at first on the curl'd ocean fries. 

As in the case of the quotation from Spenser, 
' F. Q.,' II. xii. 45, fry has the meaning of 
"boil," " seethe," or "foam." 

The modern equivalent is our word fry, to 
roast, adopted from F. fri-re ; Lat. frigere, 
to roast, fry. 

As used by Lamb, then, in his letter to means foam or spray the result 
of the agitation (frying), seething or boiling 
of the waves. 

" Fray " is no mere slip of the pen and 
Lamb had every justification for its employ- 
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" spray " is quite uncalled for. 

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logic overturning convenience. The word gare 
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The word-elements auto and aero have supplied' 
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CONTENTS. No. 104. 

3TOTES : Massinger and ' The Laws of Candy,' 101 Thorn- 
ford, Dorset: Church of St. Mary Magdalene, 103 London 
Coffee-houses, Taverns, and Inns in the Eighteenth 
Century, 105 Izaak Walton's Strawberry in America 
Giraldus Cambrensis, 107 Stanhope and Moffatt : Church 
Plate in Hereford Wni. Allingham and a Folk-Song 
' Mesocracia," a Spanish Neologism The ' Encyclopaedia 
Britannica* : RussianArt, 108 '"Teapoy," 109. 

'QUERIES: Engravings: 'Nelson's Seat ' Italian St. 
Swithin's Day -. "iquattro Aprilanti," Grosvenor Place 
Goodwin, 109-Hawke's Flagship in 1759 "The Lame 
Demon " Portuguese Embassy Chapel Celtic Patron 
Saints The Stature of P_epys The Baskett Bible 
Hastings Family, 110 Marriage of the First Duke of Marl- 
borougb Gordon : the Meaning of the Name The Third 
Troop of Guards in 1727 The Knave of Clubs Etonians 
in the Eighteenth Century " Balderdash ": Wassaiiling 
of Apple-trees, 111 Josias Conder Authors Wanted, 112. 

^REPLIES : William Alabaster Robert Trotman : 
Epitaph, 112 Unannotated Marrriages at Westminster 
" Catholic," 113 Blackiston, the Regicide Finkle Street 
Hamilton, 114 Mary Clarke of New York .Tames 
Wheatley, cobbler Curious Surnames Melkart's Statue, 
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Mews or Mewys Family Chair, e. )780 Jenner Family- 
Shield of Flanders. 116 Walter Hamilton. F.R.G.S. 
Method of Remembering Figures. 117 The Moores of 
Milton Park. Egham, Surrey 'Tom Jones' Lewknor 
Family Curious Christian Epitaph, 118' Adestes 
Fidelia' Authors Wanted, 119. 

.IfOTES ON BOOKS : ' What became of the Bones of St. 
Thomas ?' ' Inter Lilia.' 

INotices to Correspondents. 



THERE has been much discussion as to the 
authorship of ' The Laws of Candy,' which 
-was first published in the Beaumont and 
Fletcher folio of 1647. 

In his paper on ' Beaumont, Fletcher, and 
Massinger,' published in the New Shakes- 
spere Society's Transactions for 1880-6, Mr. 
Boyle declares that it should be excluded 
from the works of any of these authors, 
finding in it no trace whatever of Massinger 's 
hand. Messrs. Fleay, Oliphant, and Bullen, 
however, all consider that it is largely his, 
^assigning some small share in its composition 
to Fletcher. This consensus of opinion in no 
-way influenced Mr. Boyle's earlier view. In 
Englische Studien, vol. xviii. (1894), p. 294, 
criticizing Mr. Oliphant' s pronouncement 
that the play is " pretty equally divided 
between Massinger and Beaumont," he 
declares : " Massinger cannot for a moment 
be thought of as a reviser till his favourite 
expressions are brought forward," and in his 
review of Fleay 's ' Biographical Chronicle 
of the English Drama,' published in the same 
volume of that periodical (xviii., 121), he is 
still more emphatic, affirming that " there 

is no trace of Massinger throughout the play, 
in language, metre, or characterization." 

The study of Massinger' s style and voca- 
bulary is one to which Mr. Boyle devoted a 
vast amount of time and trouble, and his 
opinion is therefore not lightly to be dis- 
regarded. The value of his labours does not 
appear to me to have been sufficiently 
recognized. His "repetition test," as an 
aid to the determination of Massinger's 
contributions to the plays written by him in 
co-operation with Fletcher and others, is 
simply invaluable. It is impossible to 
appreciate its importance merely by a casual 
examination of the extracts from the various 
plays, connected by cross-references, dis- 
played in the pages of Englische Studien 
and the New -Shakespere Society's Tran- 
sactions. From such an examination the 
reader will gain but a poor idea of the value 
of the parallels cited. But if he will take 
some small part of the trouble that went to 
the collecting of them, and read Massinger's 
plays for himself with a view to noting the 
character of the repetitions that they 
present, he will understand the importance 
that Mr. Boyle attaches to them, and he will 
understand also why it is that that critic 
refuses to admit the possibility of Massinger's 
collaboration in, or revision of, ' The Laws 
of Candy ' in the absence of evidence that 
some of his " favourite expressions " are to 
be found in the play. 

Now the fact is that there is such evidence 
to confirm the views of those who have, on 
aesthetic (or metrical) grounds, assigned a 
substantial share in its composition to 
Massinger. How it is that this has escaped 
Mr. Boyle is a matter of some surprise for 
there are several of the " Beaumont and 
Fletcher " plays, portions of which he has 
rightly assigned to this dramatist such, 
for instance, as ' The Honest Man's Fortune ' 
and ' The Bloody Brother ' where the 
marks of Massinger's hand are less apparent, 
in that they contain fewer connexions with 
his work elsewhere. It is probably because 
scarcely any of the repetitions here are of 
the stereotyped kind to be found in the plays 
written by him from about 1620 onwards, 
and that where we do find his characteristic 
sentiments or metaphors, they often show 
some slight variation from his usual phrasing. 
This seems to indicate that the play is not 
of a late date as Mr. Boyle supposes, but that 
it belongs to a comparatively early period of 
Massinger's career, before he had acquired 
the stock of conventional metaphors, the 
habit of literal repetition, that renders his 
later work so easy of recognition. In my 


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opinion Massinger's part of this play cannot 
possibly be later than 1617, and was more 
probably written two or three years before 
that date. Like Mr. Boyle, I am convinced 
that early work of Massinger's is to be found 
in 'Henry VIII.' and 'The Two Noble 
Kinsmen,' in spite of the fact that they 
contain comparatively few passages for which 
close parallels of sentiment or phrasing are 
to be found in his later plays, and it is a 
notable circumstance that the text of ' The 
Laws of Candy ' has several points of con- 
nexion with that of ' Henry VIII.' The only 
other hypothesis that will account for the 
comparative lack of striking parallels be- 
tween ' The Laws of Candy ' and Massinger's 
independent work is that it has been dras- 
tically revised by some other dramatist, and 
it is not easy to suppose that^a reviser should 
so have altered the text as to have left 
scarcely a trace of the pronounced manner- 
isms of Massinger's later plays. 

Mr. Boyle, as I have already stated, 
affirms that this play shows " no trace of 
Massinger in language, metre, or charac- 
terization." In my opinion his hand is 
recognizable in all three. But it is the first 
that is the most important, and it is accord- 
ingly the language of the play which I shall 
here examine. I agree with Mr. Boyle that 
unless it can be shown that this is Massinger's, 
it cannot be said that his authorship has been 
demonstrated. Attributions based merely 
on impressions, or even upon the application 
of metrical tests, have so frequently proved 
erroneous, that it is impossible to place any 
confidence in them. 

Act I., sc. i., is, I think, wholly Massinger's. 
Two passages deserve particular notice, of 
which the first is in the second speech of 
Melitus, lines 6-9 : 

.... that great lady, 

Whoso insolence, and never-yet-match'd pride, 

Can by no character be well express'd 

But in her only name, the proud Erota. 
Here, as Coleridge has remarked, 

" The poet intended no allusion to the word 
' Erota ' itself ; but says that her very name, 
' the proud Erota ' became a character and adage : 
as we say a Quixote or a Brutus ; so to say an 
' Erota ' expressed female pride and insolence of 

Similarly Hortensio in ' The Bashful Lover,' 
III. iii., describes the daughter of the Duke 
of Mantua as : 

.... the excellence of nature, 

That is perfection in herself, and needs not 

Addition or epithet, rare Matilda, 
and in ' The Duke of Milan,' IV. iii., Sforza 
speaks in the same strain of Marcelia : 
Her goodness does disdain comparison, 
And, but herself, admits no parallel. 

At the end of the scene a messenger brings 
word to Melitus and Gaspero that the Senate 
is about to adjudicate upon the claims of 
Cassilanes and his son Antinous. Gaspero 
explains to Melitus the method prescribed by 
the laws of Candy to determine who, where 
there is more than one claimant, is to be the 
recipient of the honours which the State con- 
fers upon such of its subjects as have proved 
pre-eminent in valour, and, as they leave the 
stage together, he adds : 

... .as we walk , 
I shall more fully inform you. 

This is a characteristic Massinger tag, though 
not quite in the form that we find it else- 
where in his plays, e.g., in ' The Unnatural 
Combat,' V. i. : 

As we walk, 
I'll tell thee more. 

and ' The Renegado,' II. vi. : 

As I walk, I'll tell you more. 
We find it again in ' Henry VIII.,' IV. i. : 

As I walk thither, 
I'll tell ye more. 

and in ' Sir John Van Olden Barnavelt ' 
(Bullen, ' Old Plays,' ii. 219) : 

As we sit, 
I'll yield you further reasons. 

In the second scene of this act, the marks 
of Massinger are so obvious and so abundant 
as to preclude any doubt of his sole author- 
ship. This is the scee of the quarrel between 
Cassilanes and his son. Fleay's opinion that 
Massinger was chiefly responsible for the 
play on the ground of its resemblance to 
' The Unnatural Combat ' is described as 
" fanciful " by Prof. Schelling. But it is far 
from fanciful. It is not merely that there is 
in both plays a contention between a father 
and a son. There is a marked resemblance 
in the tone and spirit of the speeches of 
father and son in both plays, which cannot 
fail to strike any one who will read both at a 
sitting. We find the same rotund oratory, 
the same bombastic self-glorification in the 
speeches of Cassilanes as in those of the elder 
Malefprt. And the sons address their 
fathers in the same kind of language. Both 
prelude their utterances with a reference to 
the obligations of the filial relationship, 
Antinous observing : 

It were a sin against the piety 
Of filial duty, if I should forget 
The debt I owe my father on my knee. 

while young Malef ort ( ' Unnatural Combat,' 

II. i.) begins with : 

As you are my father 

[ bend my knee, and, uncornpeil'd, profess 

My life, and all that's mine, to be your gift. 

12 s. vi. APRIL 10, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Antinous, in his next speech, continues in the 

same strain : 

For proof that I acknowledge you the author 

Of giving me my birth, I have discharg'd 

A part of my obedience. 

with which we may compare the words of 
Giovanni to his tutor Charamonte in ' The 
Great Duke of Florence,' I. i. : 

.... you have been to me 
A second father, and may justly challenge 

As much respect and service, as was due 
To him that gave me life. 

Note also that, in his reply to Antinous* 
Cassilanes speaks of his son's " giant-like '' 
conceit. This adjective is Massinger's. He 
has " giant-like ambition " in ' The Picture,' 
V. iii., and again in ' The Custom of the 
Country,' II. i., and ' The False One,' V. iv. 
In the long oration of Cassilanes before the 
Senate we have a typical piece of Massinger 
rhetoric, which should be compared with 
Paris' s speech to the Senate in ' The Roman 
Actor,' I. iii., and Sforza's address to the 
Emperor in ' The Duke of Milan,' III. i. 
The following definite suggestions of Mas- 
singer's hand may be noted here : 

(1) ... .were there pitch'd. 
Another, and another field, like that 

Which, not yet three days since, this arm hath 

.... then the man 

That had a heart to think he could but follow 
(For equal me he should not) through the lanes 
Of danger and amazement, might in that, 
That only of but following me, be happy. 

The same metaphor will be found again in 
one of the Massinger scenes of ' The False 
One ' (V. iii.) where Caesar says to his 
soldiers : 


The lane this sword makes for you. 

(2) Cassilanes dilates upon his prowess in 
the battlefield. When the enemy attacked, 
it was he who met them " in the forefront of 
the armies " : 

I, I myself, 
Was he that first disrank'd their woods of pikes. 

The phrase " a wood of pikes " occurs once 
more in ' The Unnatural Combat,' III. iii., 
where Belgarde, the neglected soldier, 
speaking of the armour that he wears, 
says : 

This hath passed through 
A wood of pikes. 

(3) Cassilanes continues : 

. . . .as often 

As I lent blows, so often I gave wounds 
And every wound a death. 

This is one of the passages that recalls the 
language of ' Henry VIII.' Lovell, in 
Act V., sc. i., of that play, speaking of the 

severity of the pain endured by the queen- 
in her confinement, uses the same hyper- 
bole : 

.... her sufferance made 
Almost each pang a death. 

(4) After a long catalogue of his deeds of: 
valour, Cassilanes breaks off with : 

I talk too much, 
But 'tis a fault of age. 

In like fashion Beliza, in ' The Queen of 
Corinth,' I. ii. (a scene written by Massinger), 
remarks : 

If I speak 

Too much .... 

Prithee remember 'tis a woman's weakness. 

(5) Finally Cassilanes concludes his long 
harangue with a triumphant : 

Lords, I have said. 

So also Paris ends his speech to the Senate 
in ' The Roman Actor,' I. iii. : 

I have said, my lord. 
Sforza his in ' The Duke of Milan,' III. i. : 

I have said, 
And now expect my sentence. 

and Cleremond his in ' The Parliament of 
Love,' V. i. : 

I have said, sir. 



(To be continued.) 


BELOW are given the inscriptions on the bells 
in this parish, together with extracts from 
the churchwardens' accounts in the seven- 
teenth and early part of the eighteenth 


Previous to the year 1906 there were 
only three bells in the tower, although pits 
were in position for two more. In that year 
two extra trebles were added by parishioners 
and friends in memory of the late much- 
beloved rector, the Rev. W. M. Roxby, who 
died suddenly at the Weymouth Church 
Congress in October, 1905 : 


(below rims) WILFRID. 1906. 

Diam. 28 ins. 


(below rims) MAUDE-ROXBY. 190B 
Diam. 30 ins. 

3. RICH : RING : JOHN : HOPKINES : c : W : 

ANNO : DOMINI : 1708 : T K (two crowns) 
Diam. 32 i ins. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. 1 12 APRIL 10,19-20. 

4. AN NO DO MI NI l93 

Diam. 34f ins. 


17f D w : K : B : F (crown) 
Diam. 36J ins. 


s. d. 

1660, April 23. Paid Humphrie Eayres 
and John Eayres mending the 

bells 050 

Paid for mending the Church wall 

& for washing the Church Linnen 014 
Laid out for Bred & Wine against 

Easter . . . . . . . . 3 10 

1862. For a sserplesse 1176 

For macking and .... . . . . 050 

For a Carpett for the Communion 

Tabell 170 

For washing the Church Lining . . 010 
1665. To ye ffoxe hunters .. ..050 

To Geo. Master for a floxe killing ..010 
'1666. To Mr. Barker Vicar of Sher- 
borne for Leech-rest 4 yeares 
last past . . . . . . ..034 

To Xtoph Manfyell for new casting 

two Bell braces 13 6 

ffor ye ffyre at London . . ..026 

^1670. Paide to Daggle for earring of ye 
money to Soesbury [Salisbury] 
yt was catheredffor ye redeaming 
of ye Inglesh outt of Torke ..010 

For a glass Bottle 006 

"1671. Given to ye young men at Ester 

tomake them Dreink . . ..010 

To Mr. Wats in order to ye setting 

up of ye Church Clock . . ..100 
K578-9. fjor conveyance of ye contri- 
bution towards ye rebuylding of 
St. Pauls London . . ..010 

1679-80. Spent with Tho Purdy at 

Closthworth & at Thomforde ..028 
Paid John Eares for takeing downe 

of ye Litell Bell 016 

for beere when ye bell was downe 006 
for hollinge of him awaye . . ..016 

ri 680-1. Spent on ye parish at ye tak- 

inge downe of ye bells . . ..036 

for our expences for five days about 

ye bells . . . . . . ..096 

paid y two urites [Wrights] of Yet- 

minster for ye Iron Worke . . 16 3 
Spent upon Perdew [Purdue] & ye 
other workmen at ye hanginge 
ye bells . . . . . . ..020 

paid to John Eares and his sonnes 

for there worke . . . . ..180 

for ye can-edge of ye bells out & 

home again . . . . ..100 

paid & secured to be paid to perdew 
for castinge of ye bells & over 
mete 11 <fc for casting of ye brasses 21 9 6 
1683. Laid out for a new bel wheal . . 15 
paid ye smeth for Clams & nails & 

his laber . . . . . . ..026 

Laid out in beare at ye bargain 

making . . . . . . ..006 

Laid out for beare at ye setting of 

ye wheal . . . . . . . . 10 

3687-8. ffor ye Church bibells new 

forell <fc claspes . . . . . . 18 

1688. Gave in beer to the ringers att 

the freeing of the Byshops . . 040 
Paid for ye King's proclamacon & 

the book for Thanksgiveing for ye 

young prince feigned . . ..020 

1690. Gave the ringers for the victory 

in Ireland 006 

1693. Paid to 5 seamen ruenated by 

ye frinch . . . . . . ..003 

1697. pd. John Moore for meanding 

the Quofjer [coffer] . . ..004 
Gave a woman that was carryed 
from tything to tything by Eob rt 
Tuck 006 

1698. Gave to a Captain soldier ..010 
1702. Oct. 18. John Hankins Church- 
warden killed then in Eivor Wood 

2 hedge hoges . . . . ..004 

1702. Dec. 23. Lett then unto John 
Tucke mason & George Dunham 
a tutt Bargon [a piece-work 
agreement] to laye Downe the 
stones in ye Chancell & for other 
work about ye Church . . ..076 

Gave the day of Thankesgiveing of 
the newes from Vigse unto the 
Ringers & on ye 5 of Xov br . . 016 

1706. Spent in beer at the viewing of 
the work to bee done about the 

oyle [aisle] . . . . ..Old 

1707. paid to George eyars for a new 

church hatch [gate] . . ..030 

paid to thomas hont [Hunt] for the 

eiere geare [iron work and nails] 020 
spent in Beer on George Eyers about 

making bargain for tymber for 

the oyle [aisle] . . . . ..010 

1708-9. pd. for casting the Bell ..700 

pd. for 71 pounds of new mettle at 

!. 2(7. p. pd. is 4 2 10 

Paid lor 5 dayes & half for a Car- 
penter to hang the Bell at 2s. Qd. 

p. day is 13 6 

pd. John Moore for 4 dayes worke 

and half about ye same . . ..053 

pd. Thomas Hunt for the Iron worke 

about the Bells . . . . ..068 

It pd. for small nailes to Geo Winter 

and about ye Belys . . ..016 

spent in expences at Closatt [Clos- 

worth] & at kane about ye bells 090 
pd. for leather for the Clappers of 

the Bells 007 

It paid for Oyle for the Bells ..00 4 
It paid for Loch for the Tower Door 012 

1712. Gave the workmen in bere & 
some of the p'sh to let down the 

bell 016 

pd. the Smeth for Rightinge the 

Eiergare abt the letle bell ..009 

Spent at Mounters with Mr. Goller 
& some of the p'sh of Thornford 
to try to make the bargon about 
the leds of the Church . . ..013 

1713. Gave to Blandford fc-icr [fire] ..010 
Paid for mending the loock of the 

dooar & macking the cay . . 009 

for a Roap for the medel bel . . 032 
No date. Gave 4 semen that there 

sheep wors cast away . . ..006 

Gave 3 travelers mooar that have 

los 2 legs &, 1 arm . . ..006 

12 s. vi. APRIL io, i92o.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 



*. d. 


George Hardy Bill for work 
aboutt 2 bells 
Gave 3 men 3 quart for Havin down 

the bell 

paid ye passon for his dinner at 

1754. Pd. for a bissom to clean the 
church [an item in many accounts] 

1755, Mar. 31. it was then ordered in 

order to destroy those noxious 
Virmen call'd Norway rats that 
a penny be pd. for every old rat 
and a half penny of each young 

Loud for strings for Musick [an 
annual allowance] . . . . 10 



Thomas Purdue mentioned in the church- 
wardens' accounts was a bell founder at* 
Closworth near Yeovil and a brother of Wm. 
and Roger Purdue, who were also noted bell-- 1 
founders. Thomas was born in 1621 and 
died in 17 1 1. There is a tomb to his memory 
in Closworth churchyard inscribed : 

" Here lieth the Body of Thomas Purdue who- 
died the 1st Day of September in the year of OUB - 
Lord 1711 aged 90 years. 

Here Lies a bell founder honest and true 
Till ye resurrection named Purdue." 





(See ante. p. 29, 59, 84.) 

Jew's Harp Tavern N. Marylebone 

Joe's . . . . Near the Temple 

John's . . . . Birchin Lane 

Jonathan's . . Exchange Alley 


King of Bohemia's 

King's (Tom) 

King's Arms 

King's Arms Tavern 
King's Arms Tavern 

King's Arms Tavern 
King's Arms Tavern 
King's Head 
King's Head 
King's Head 

King's Head 
King's Head 
King's Head Inn . . 

King's Head Tavern 


Lamb and Flag . . 

Le Beck's . . 

Le Coq's 

See Black Jack. 
Chandos Street 
Turnham Green 

Tavistock Eow, Covent 

North side of Pall Mall, near 
the Haymarket 

Ludgate Hill 

Newgate Street (south side) 

South-west corner of St. 
Martin's Church 

Little Piazza, Covent Gar- 

Haymarket (demolished to 
build the Little Theatre) 

Fenchurch Street 

Junction of Fleet Street and 
Chancery Lane (west 

Tottenham Court Turnpike 
Ivy Lane, Paternoster Bow 
Next to Star Court, Charing 


Essex Street 

Rose Street, Covent Garden 
N.W. corner of Half-moon 
Passage (later called Little 
Bedford Street) Strand 

Parliament Street . . 

Thornbury, v. 255. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 47. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 179. 
1711 Addison's Spectator, Mar. 1. 

1748 Plan of Great Fire, R. A. E. ., ' N. & Q.,* ' 
Dec. 9, 1916, p. 401; Shelley's 'Inns,' 
p. 177 ; Cunningham, p. 268. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 125. 

Thornbury, vi. 561. 

1731 Fielding's ' Covent Garden Tragedy.' 

1736 Fielding's ' Pasquin,' Act 1., sc. i. }-. 
Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' p. 287 r' 
Dobson's ' Hogarth,' 1907, p. 58. 

1731 Chetham Society O.S., xxxiv. 482. 

1751 Fielding's ' Amelia,' iv. 5 ; x. 5, 7. 

1754 Fielding's ' Voyage to Lisbon.' 

1755 Hickey, i. 2-4 ; Lang's ' Literary London,* 

p. 225. 
1733 Gent. Mag., p. 269. 

Harber's ' Dictionary of London,' 1918, . 

p. 332. 
1717 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 165. 

1726 Bishop Berkeley, Aug. 24 ; Cunningham* . 

p. 395. 
1720 'The Pall Mall Restaurant.' 

Sydney's ' XVIII. Century, 'i. 194 ; Shelley's- 

' Inns,' p. 42. 

' Shelley's Inns,' p. 92. 

Dobson's ' Hogarth,' 107, p. 103. 
1749 Birkbeck Hill, i. 190, 478. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 155. 

1729 Middlesex County Records Sessions Books,.. 

1748 ' The Orrery Papers,' 1903, ii. 46. 

MacMichafl's ' Charing Cross,' p. 197. 
1731 Chetham Society O.S., xxxiv. 487 ; Whit-- 

ten's ' Nollekens and his Times,' i; 105 ;,. 

Larwood. p. 93. 

1742 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 130. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., pp. 48, 53. 



APRIL 10, 1920. 

!.Le Tellier's 
f.'JLeicaster . . 



: Locket's . . 

, London . . . . 

. London . . 

Low's (or Gray's Inn 

.Lowe's Hotel .. 

Macklin's , 

Magpie Inn 


Man loaded with Mis- 


JMan in the Moon 

Miers (or Meyer's) . . 

: Mills's 


Mitre ' . . 



Mitre . . 

Monster Inn . . 


Mourning Bush 

Nag's Head Tavern 

Nag's Head Tavern 
Nag's Head Inn . . 

Nag's Head Inn . . 

New Exchange 
New York . . 
" Northumberland 



Old Bell Inn 
Old Black Jack 

Dover Street 
Leicester Fields 


Tavistock Street, Covent 

Lombard Street (1), Pope's 1711 

Head Alley (2) till 1774, 1740 

lioyal Exchange (3) 

Strand (on site of old 

Drummond's Bank) 
Ludgate Hill . . . . 

Bishopsgate Street 




Henrietta Street, Covent 1771 

Great Piazza, Covent Gar- 1754 

den (next the theatre) 

Cheyne Walk, Chelsea 


Oxford Street (now no. 53 

The Shamrock) 

Sec Old Man's, also Young Man's. 
Whitechapel .. ,. 1735 

King's Street, Bloomsbury 
Gerrard Street 

Stangate, Lambeth 
Cat and Fiddle Lane 
Fleet Street (now part of 
Hoare's Bank) 

Fenchurch Street 

Opposite Craig's Court, 

Charing Cross 
Willow Walk, Chelsea 
Grosvenor Street . . 
See Fountain, no. 2. 
New Hound Court, Maiden 

Leadenhall Street 

Princes Street, Drury Lane 
Grub Street (west side) . . 


Eastern corner of Inner 
Temple Lane ; perhaps 
Prince Henry House 


Threadneedle Street 
Opposite Northumberland 

Bedford Street, Covent 


Holborn (no. 123) 
See Black Jack. 





Stirling's A.Y.H., ii. 132, 141. 

Hickey, ii. 288. 

Middlesex County Records Sessions Books, 

Whealley's ' Hogarth's London,' p. 284. 

Addison's Spectator, April 2". 

Sydney's ' Eighteenth Century,' P- 186 ; 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 181 : Cunningham, 

p. 293 ; Gent. Mag., Mar. 11. 
Vanbrugh's ' Relapse ' ; Shelley's ' Inns,' 

p. Ill : Cunningham, p. 295. 
Cunningham, p. 298. 
Roach's L.P.P., pp. 46, 47 ; Shelley's 

' Inns,' p. 193. 
Hickey, i. 120. 
Hickey, ii. 315. 
Roach's L.P.P., p. 58. 

Hickey, i. 324. 

Fielding's ' Voyage to Lisbon ' : Macklin's 
' Memoirs,' p. 199 ; Sydney's ' XVIII. 
Century,' i. 195. 

Blunt's ' Paradise Row,' 1906. 

Hickey, i. 251. 

Wheatley's ' Hogarth's [London,' p. 293. 

Middlesex County Records Sessions Books, 

Thoresby's 'Diary,' ii. p. 240. 

Minute Book of Foundling Hospital. 

Middlesex County Records Sessions Books 1 

Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 261. 

Besant, p. 95. 

Gomme's G.M.L., pt. xv., p. 134 : Wheat- 
ley's ' Hogarth's London,' pp. 273, 278 ; 
Cunningham, p. 15. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 44 ; Wheatley's 
' Hogarth's London,' p. 281. 

Daily Post, Dec. 9. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 61. 

Larwood p. 507. 

Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 210. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 108. 

1765 Plan of Great Fire, Gent. Mafj. ; ' N. & Q.,' 
Dec. 9, 1916, p. 462. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 116. 

Harben's ' Dictionary of London,' 1918, 

p. 427. 

1786 ' Tunbridge Wells Guide,' 1786. 
1752 Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 216. 
1765 Hickey, i'. 57, 58. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., pp. 47, 49. 
1796 Clayden's ' Rogers,' p. 305 : Shelley's 

' Inns,' p. 195 ; Cunningham, p. 348 ; 

Harben's Dictionary of London,' 1918, 

p. 427. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., pp. 47, 51. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 54. 

MacMichael's ' Charing C/'oss.' pp. 40 and 


1714 Middlesex County Records Sessions Books, 

Hare, ii. 193. 

(To be continued.') 


12 s. VL APRIL io, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


.AMERICA. Roger Williams, in his ' Key to 
the Language of America ' (chap, xvi., p. 
of the original edition), comments on the 
strawberry as follows : 

" Obs. This Berry is the wonder of all Fruits 
growing naturally in these parts ; It is of it selfe 
Excellent : so that one of the chiefest Doctors 
of England was wont to say, that God could 
have made, but God never did make a better 

This famous quotation is always thought 
of in connexion with Izaak Walton, and, so 
far as I can find, has never been pointed out 
as occurring in any publication previous to 
the ' Complete Angler,' chap. v. : - 

" Indeed, my good scholar, we may say of 
angling, as Dr. Boteler said of strawberries, 
' Doubtless God could have made a better berry, 
but doubtless God never did ' ; and so, if I might 
be judge, God never did make a more calm, quiet, 

'innocent recreation than angling." 

That Williams did not take his quotation 

i from Izaak Walton is plain ; the ' Key ' was 
published in 1643, the ' Complete Angler ' 
not until 1653. The probability is then 

-either that Williams received the remark 
direct from its first author, or (more pro- 
bably) that the remark was a common 
quotation of the time, and both Williams 
and Walton quoted it as such. It is hardly 

.possible that Walton could have found the 

quotation in the ' Key ' and used it. Not to 
speak of the improbability of honest Izaak 
Walton's re-quoting a quotation originally 

Williams' s without mentioning Williams's 
name, the very difference in the ways in 
whjch the two authors speak of "Dr. 
Boteler " make such a supposition very 

/improbable, Williams not mentioning the 
name of his " one of the chiefest Doctors in 
England" at all. One would certainly like 
to trace a connexion between the two books, 

'. however, if it were possible ; for they 

:resemble each other strikingly in some ways. 
Williams's 'Key ' is no more merely a text- 

'book of the Indian language than the 
' Complete Angler ' is merely a text-book of 
fishing. The ' Key ' is full of Roger 
Williams's keen observation and kindly 
good nature, and his almost naive affection 
for the Indians, just as the ' Complete 
Angler ' contains all of Walton's genial and 
noble spirit and his love for the country-sides 
of old England. 

None of the commentators on the ' Com- 
plete Angler ' seems to be absolutely sure who 
the " Dr. Boteler " was to whom Walton 

refers, although all concur with Hawkins in 
saying he was very probably Dr. William 

Butler (1535-1618), one of the most eminent 

physicians of his time, and a great humorist 
and eccentric character. The way in which 
Williams speaks of the author of the remark 
on the strawberry seems to me to clinch the 
matter and make it certain that Walton's 
" Dr. Boteler " was indeed Dr. William 
Butler. Fuller ('Worthies') calls Dr. 
William Butler " the Esculapius of his 
age " ; Granger (J. Granger, ' Biographical 
History of England,' 1824) lists him second 
of the physicians of the reign of James I. 
(Harvey is listed first) ; and Aikin (John 
Aikin, ' Biographical Memoirs of Medicine in 
Great Britain,' 1780) calls him the " most 
popular and celebrated practitioner of physio 
in the kingdom." Aikin also remarks : 
" He never was an author, nor left any 
writings behind him," so it is impossible, if 
Aikin is correct, that Williams or Walton 
could have found the remark in any pub- 
lished work of Butler. 

30 Conant Hall, Cambridge, 38, Mass., U.S.A. 

been expressed as to whether Giraldus the 
famous Archdeacon of Brecknock was ever 
Archdeacon of St. David's. I am sure, if 
not already noticed, it will interest readers 
of ' N. & Q.,' and antiquaries generally, to 
hear of some additional evidence on this 
point. The Bodleian has a charter (Glouc. 
22), which mentions him. It is a Confirma- 
tion having reference to the Priory of 
Stanley St. Leonard's, co. Glos., a paper on 
the history of which I had the honour of 
reading before the Society of Antiquaries 
on Nov. 29, 1917. Therein Archbishop 
Baldwin who was made Legate Jan. 12, 1186, 
and took the Cross, Feb. 11, 1188, and who 
preached the Crusade through Wales during 
Lent, 1188, confirms the settlement of 
a dispute between Thomas Carbouet, Abbot, 
and the Convent of Gloucester, and the 
Prior and Monks of Stanley St. Leonard's 
of the one part, and William de Berkeley, 
Lord of Cubberley of the other part, con- 
cerning the advowson of the church of 
Cubberley. The principal witness, occupy- 
ing the place of honour in the test-clause 
is " Giraldo Archediacono Menevensi." He 
is followed by "Magistro Petro Blesensi 
Bathoniciesi Archediacono," and many other 
west country folk, showing that the Con- 
firmation must have passed in Lent 
probably about March 20 in the year 1188. 
The Archbishop (who is said to -have 
perished in Palestine in 1190) began his 
progress through Wales on or about Ash 
Wednesday, March 2, and after traversing 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 10, 1920, 

the whole principality, from Radnor round 
by St. David's and Carnarvon, &c., arrived 
at Chester by Easter, April 17. Giraldus 
Cambrensis accompanied him. I have been 
indebted to the Rev. Charles S. Taylor, 
Vicar of Banwell, Somerset, for extracts 
from ' Councils and Ecclesiastical Docu- 
ments ' (Haddan and Stubbs), bearing on 
the Archbishop's progress. 

I should like to add that the charter 
above noted was included in the paper 
read by me at the Society of Antiquaries. 

or THE COUNTY or HEREFORD. Headers of 
this valuable work of reference may care to 
note an identification, which can confidently 
now be made of the mutilated fragment of 
a sixteenth-century inventory on p. 242, 
col. 1 (r.Tr^Tir). The list should be headed 
" Brobury," or, as the name was then 
written, " Brodbury." This identification, 
which curiously escaped the notice of the 
learned authors, is established by a com- 
parison of the fragment with the Brodbury 
inventory on p. 208, dated May 15, 
7 Edward VI. (1553). 

Roger Pytt, clerk, heads the list of names 
in both documents. Thomas Hoby appears 
in both, and it is probable that John Cruse 
and John Brise are one and the same person : 
so, too, John Chanor and John Chamor, 
Hugh Sant and Hugh S . 

R. Pytt was rector of Brobury from 1529 
to (apparently) 1561. In the list of rectors 
(supra 12 S. v. 200) " Richard " Pytt must 
now. on the evidence of these documents, be 
altered to ''rRoger " Pytt. 


(Rector of Brobury). 

Bredwardine Vicarage, Hereford. 

A striking resemblance exists between an 
English folk-song and a poem by Allingham 
called 'The Girl's Lamentation' ('Songs, 
Ballads, and Stories,' pp. 146-9, Allingham, 
G. Bell & Sons, 1877). Allingham's poem 
begins : 

With grief and mourning I sit to spin ; 
and the second stanza reads : 

There is a tavern in yonder town, 

My love goes there and he spends a crown, &c. 

These words will be found to resemble those 
of an English folk-song which begins : 

A brisk young farmer courted me, 
and of which the second stanza reads : 
There is an ale-house in this town, 
Where my love goes and sits him down, &c. 

( Vide ' English Folk-Song and Dance/" 
Kidson and Neal, Cambridge University- 
Press, p. 57.) 

Allingham's poem is set " to an old Irish. 
Tune," and it ought therefore be found to 
resemble some folk-song in Irish. I find this, 
to be the case, for in a recently published 
collection of Irish folk-songs, brought out 
by the Irish Folk-Song Society (20 Hanover- 
Square, London), there is one song called' 
' Tiocf aidh an Samhradh ' which is the 
lamentation of a girl and which contains a 
stanza that reads : 

Ta teach leanna ins an m-baile udaigh thai], 
Ins an ait a g-comhnuigheann(s) mo mhxiirnin. 
ban, &c. 

It is translated as follows : 

" There is an ale-house in that village beyond^. 
At the place where my bright love has his abode," 

The fact that this folk-theme exists botb, 
in English and Irish, and is therefore some- 
what widely diffused, would go to prove its 
priority over Allingham's poem and its being- 
the real origin of the latter. In regard to the 
above note, some may recall the words of a 
once popular song, the opening lines of which' 
I quote from memory, having no detailed 
reference to it : 

There is a tavern in this town, (repeat) 
And there my true love sits him down ; (repeat}, 
And he drinks his wine with laughter free, 
And never, never thinks of me, &c. 


Apropos of the French neologism tribions, I 
remember having read in May last (during 
the universal class-war between Capital and 
Labour), in a leading article in the Madrid 
newspaper, El Impartial, for the first time the- 
Spanish neologism mesocracia. Has any one 
seen the English analogue of this word in 
print, and, if so, where ? 


145 Alcester Street, Birmingham. 

RUSSIAN ART. I should like to make a 
proposal for the next edition of the ' En- 
cyclopaedia Britannica.' It is that there 
should be included in it an article on Russian.' 
art. I do not suggest an elaborate contri- 
bution on Russian crosses or even on Russian 
iconography, fascinating as such matter- 
might easily prove to antiquaries, but rather 
an article on Russian painting, founded on 
the works of Russian artists that were in the 
Alexander Museum at Petrograd, in the- 
Moscow Townhall, and in some of the most 
famous Russian cathedrals. It is true that. 

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it has often been pointed out that Russia 
has no national school, that her artists, so 
slow to invent, so quick to imitate, have 
made themselves the docile followers of 
various great European masters, but, at 
any rate, the subject matter of these 
paintings, when they refer to Russian 
mythology and Russian history, have an 
originality about them that cannot fail to 
excite the liveliest curiosity. Repine, Gue, 
Aivasovsky (the Russian Turner), and 
Verestchagin are surely worthy of some 
comment, while Vasnetzov is considered the 
founder of a school that is distinctively 
Russian. Who that has seen his ' Flying 
Carpet ' is likely to forget it, or the resusci- 
tated Byzantinism, with its marvellous 
regard for detail, yet dominated always by 
his powerful personality, which adorns the 
glorious picture gallery, where he worked so 
long and so successfully the cathedral of 
St. Vladimir at Kiev ? 


" TEAPOY." The only meaning in the 
' N.E.D.' attributed to the word " teapoy " 
is that of a three-legged wooden table or stool 
used in the East as a receptacle for tea. But 
every student of ceramics here, and certainly 
every collector, knows the word as meaning a 
porcelain or earthenware (generally the 
latter) tea-caddy, not much bigger than a 
cream jug, numberless examples of which 
occur daily in the auction catalogues of 
antique china. E. T. BALDWIN. 

We must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

in my possession two pictures (apparently 
engraved from wood blocks), size 7 in. by 
10|in. each, which have been in our family for 
generations. They are, apparently, two of 
a series, one bearing the number 10 and the 
other the number 12 in the upper right 

No. 10 is entitled ' A View from Nelson's 
Seat.' It is a view from the terrace of the 
mansion, of which a corner appears at the 
left of the picture, and shows a park with 
ladies and gentlemen in costumes of the 
period from 1740 to 1750. 

No. 12 is entitled : " A view of the Grotto 
and two shell temples. London, printed for 
and sold by Robt. Sayer, opposite Fetter 

Lane, Fleet Street." This is apparently 
another view of the same park, as one of the 
shell temples can be seen in the other picture. 
The persons walking in the park are in dress 
of the same period say 1740 to 1750 or 1755, 
but not later than 1755, as evidenced by a 
careful study of books on costumes. 

I should like to inquire what Nelson this 
was ? where the estate was located ? and 
whether it is now in existence ? 

At what time was Robt. Sayer located on 
Fleet Street, opposite Fetter Lane ? This 
would show the approximate date of publica- 
tion, which I should like to ascertain. 


69 Cypress Street, Brookline, Mass. 

APRILANTI." In the September issue of 
The Anglo-Italian Review there is a descrip- 
tion of tho Flood in which " illustre Noe, 
buon Patriarca, dicci la storia dell' Area 
Santa." According to the narrative : 

" Pu in primavera, il giorno dei Quattro 
Aprilanti, che incomincio a venire il Diluvio ; onde 
ppi e rimasto il proverbio contadinesco che, 
piovendo in quel giorno, piovera per altri 
quaranta di seguito." 

I have long suspected that the superstition 
about the forty days of rain following 
St. Swithin's Day had its origin in the Bible 
narrative of Noah's flood. Who are the four 
" Aprilanti " saints and which is their day in 
the Italian calendar ? L. L. K. 

GROSVENOR PLACE. Can any reader tell 
me when Grosvenor Place, extending from 
Hyde Park Corner towards Victoria Station, 
was made, as a road, and whether by a 
private Act, or how, and where I can find 
the record ? CHARLES T. GATTY. 

GOODWIN. Can any one give me any 
information as to the parentage of the Very 
Rev. William Goodwin, or of his wife Marie, 
ho was living June 11, 1620 ? Dr. 
Goodwin ('D.N.B.') was a Scholar of 
Westminster School, whence in 1573 he was 
elected to Christ Church, Oxford. In 1590 
he was Sub -Almoner to Queen Elizabeth, 
Chancellor of York 1605, Dean of Christ 
Church 1611, Archdeacon of Middlesex 1616, 
Vice-Chancellor of Oxford University 1614-15 
and 1617-18. His dau. Anne, who d. Aug. 11, 
1627, and was buried at St. Michael's, 
Oxford, m. (as his first wife) the Rev. John 
Prideaux, rector of Exeter College and after- 
wards Bishop of Worcester (1641-50), and 
had issue Col. William, killed at Marston 
Moor, Capt. Matthias, b. 1622, Fellow of 
Exeter 1641, B.A. 1644, M.A. 1645, d. of 


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smallpox 1646, Elizabeth, m. Rev. Henry 
Sutton, rector of Bredon, and Sarah, m. Ven. 
William Hodges, Archdeacon of Worcester , 
probably about 1634 when her father relin- 
quished the vicarage of Bampton in favour 
of her husband, who had been a Fellow of 
Exeter since 1628. The Bishop's second 
wife Mary, dau. of Sir Thomas Reynell 
of Ogwell, co. Devon, who outlived him 
called widow of Dean Goodwin in 
The ' D.N.B.' says that Bishop 
Prideaux's first wife was " a grand -daughter 
of Dr. Taylor the Marian martyr." If 
so, was Marie Goodwin daughter of Dr. 
Rowland Taylor of Cambridge, Chancellor 
of London 1551, Archdeacon of Exeter 1552, 
who was degraded from the priesthood 
Feb. 4 and burned alive Feb. 9, 1554/5, on 
Aldham Common near Hadleigh ? 

UO Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.14. 

account of Admiral Hawke's memorable 
victory in the Basque Roads in the above 
year the Rev. W. F. Fitchett states in his 
' Deeds that Won the Empire,' p. 35, that 
the Admiral's flag was hoisted in the Royal 
George, the ship which afterwards foundered 
at Spithead (and was wrongly described by 
Cowper as overturned by the wind). 

Other authorities state that Hawke's flag 
was flown on the Royal Sovereign. 

Perhaps some naval reader will state if 
these were different vessels or if the original 
name of the ship was changed ? R. B. 

" THE LAME DEMON." In ' Dombey and 
Son ' (in the seventh paragraph of ch. xlvii. ) 
Dickens speaks of " the lame demon in the 
tale." Another passage appears in Ruskin's 
' On the Old Road : Fiction, Fair and Foul 
" Byron, lame demon as he was, flying smoke - 
drifted, unroofs the houses." These two 
passages obviously refer to the same tale. 
What is it ? REGINALD HOWON. 

Owlstone Road, Cambridge. 

Mary's Catholic Church in Warwick Street, 
though in its present form subsequent to the 
Gordon Riots, was first built in 1730 for the 
Portuguese Embassy, and appears to have 
been transferred to the Bavarian Embassy 
in or before 1747. When David Garrick was 
married, June 22, 1749, the Portuguese 
Embassy Chapel was at 74 South Audley 
Street. In 1769 it appears to have been in 
Golden Square. When Vincent Novello was 
organist, 1797 to 1822, it was in South Street, 

the street now known as Portugal Street, 
south of Lincoln's Inn Fields ? 

When did the Portuguese Ambassador 
cease to have a chapel open to the public ? 

Where can one find any account of the 
migrations of foreign embassies and legations 

CELTIC PATRON SAINTS. Can any of your 
readers refer me to any lists either com- 
bined or separate of the early Welsh, 
Cornish, and Breton saints, whose names are 
perpetuated by the townships and villages 
of their respective countries ? By what 
means these saints were canonized is very 
obscure, and not less so the origin of the 
adoption of the saintly title by the townships. 

L. G. R. 

Pascoe's ' No. 10 Downing Street, Whitehall,' 
published in 1908, Samuel Pepys called in 
three different places a "little man." 
have never seen any statement of the height 
of the famous Diarist, and I shall be much 
obliged if I can obtain information on that 

70 State Street, Boston, Mass. 

THE BASKETT BIBLE. It has been stated 
that a Mark Baskett Bible was printed 
clandestinely in Boston in 1752, with a 
London imprint, to avoid prosecution, and 
afterwards also in Boston in 1761, 1763, 

1767, 1768, the titles being changed to 
work off unsold copies. I have the copy of 

1768, which Boston antiquaries assert was 
really printed in Boston. 

Can any one give the dates of Mark 
Baskett Bibles actually printed in London ? 
There were Thomas Baskett Bibles, London 
1751-52 and Oxford in 1753, 1754, 1761 ; 
Mark Baskett, 1761-63. I find no record 
of a Mark Baskett in London in 1768. If 
there was none, then the edition of 1768 

in Boston may after all have been printed 
in Boston. Who has a genuine London 
edition of 1768 ? HOWARD EDNELDS. 

2026 Mount Vernon Street, Philadelphia. 

HASTINGS FAMILY. What was the paren- 
tage of the Elizabeth Hastings referred to in 
the following particulars ? 

Married at Kildysart, co. Clare, Jan. 22, 
1711-12, Mr. John Ross-Lewin to Mrs. 
Elizabeth Hastings. 

Nov. 6, 1712, George (Hastings) Ross- 
Lewin, son of John and Elizabeth, baptized. 

An old MS. pedigree says Elizabeth was 
daughter of George Hastings, Esq., a near 
relative of the Earl of Huntingdon, and the 

near South Audley Street. When was it in 1 portrait of a Lady Hastings, said to be her 

12 s. vi. APRIL 10, i92o.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


.mother or grandmother, was preserved down 
to about 1850. 

A Marr. Lie. in Killaloe Books shows that 
a Miss Anne Hastings married in 1702 
Hickman of Fenloe. She is stated to have 
been daughter of a George Hastings of 
Daylesford in Worcester of the Warren 
Hastings family. Her daughter was Lady 
O'Brien of Dromoland. 

As the Ross-Lewins and O'Briens " called 
cousins," the above-mentioned Anne and 
Elizabeth may have been sisters. 

The Hastings of Ballyalla in co. Clare, 
descendants of a Capt. John Hastings who 
fought at Siege, Limerick, 1690, also claimed 
descent from Earls of Huntingdon, and in 
1820 lent many papers to the Capt. Hast- 
ings who eventually obtained the earldom. 

' Pedigree " Davis thought it probable 
that one of the nine daughters of Capt. John 
Hastings of Ballyalla who were all married 
might have be'en Mrs. Ross-Lewin. Mrs. 
Hastings' (who died 1691) mother was a 
Lady Wilson, which might account for the 
" Lady." I am acquainted with De 
Ruvigny's ' Clarence Volume,' but it does 
not come late enough to solve the difficulty. 

Mrs. Ross-Lewin might have been daughter 
of the Geo. Hastings of London who was 
first cousin to llth Earl of Huntingdon. 


BOBOUGH. Many years have elapsed since 
the publication of the last life of the great 
Duke. So many parochial registers have 
been printed in the interval that it is now 
permissible to inquire if the date and place 
of marriage of John Churchill and Sarah 
Jennings have come to light. R. B. 



In his ' General Gordon : a Sketch of His 
Life and Character' (1902)., Mr. Reginald 
Haines says (p. 6) : " The very*name Gordon 
means a spear." Has this derivation ever 
been suggested before or since and what is 
:its validity ? J. M. BULLOCH. 

Daniel Southam, of parish of St. George, 
Hanover Square, London, gentleman, made 
his will Aug. 16, 1727. He left his " estate 
at Oddington in Co: Oxon " to his son 
Edward, and, also to him, " the house I am 
now building in Duke Street, near Grosvenor 
Square . . . . " This shows that he was a man 
of substance. To his wife Judith, he left the 
yearly sum of 5L, " over and above what she 
will be entitled to receive from the third 
'Troup of Guards to which I belong." 

The word " Troup " would seem to indicate 
that he was in the Life Guards, or the Horse 

No doubt all the troopers were gentlemen : 
were they allowed to live where they pleased, 
as long as it was near the Court ? To what 
rank could a man, in position of the above, 
attain, and is there any record of Muster 
Rolls, where his name might be found ? 


THE KNAVE OF CLUBS. My attention has 
been called to several curious details in the 
court cards king, queen, and knave of 
packs of playing-cards. I have no doubt 
that there is some good explanation of them 
and their differences. For instance, in each 
suit the three cards face the same direction, 
with the exception of the knave of clubs 
which faces to the left, whereas the king 
and queen of clubs face to the right. The 
hearts and diamonds all face to the right, the 
spades to the left. Why is the knave of 
clubs exceptional ? LEE KNOWLES, Bt. 
4 Park Street, W.I. 

If any reader can furnish a clue which will 
help me to identify the owners of the 
following surnames which are to be found in 
the MS. Eton School Lists, I shall be greatly 
obliged : 

Agnew 1762-63 Buller 1782-83 

Albert 1784-87 Buller 1782-89 

Alves 1778-79 Buller 1778 

Archbould 1753-57 Burton 1770 

Armitage 1788 Calder 1753-54 

Atkins 1773-75 ma Callender 1783 
Atkins 1773-76 mi Chambre 1779-84 

Bagnall 17b9-70 Charlton 1772-74 

Baternan 1781 Cheap 1775-78 

Blair 1753-57 Chetwynd 1^53-54 ma 

Bond 1785-80 Chetwynd 1753-54 mi 

Boyce 1778 Clapp 1769-70 

Boyle 1772-78 Colby 1769 

Branscomb 1782-86 Coppinger 1777-81 

Buller 1772-76 Coppinxer 1779 

Buller 1776-78 

R. A. A.-L. 

TREES. The dictionaries say that the 
source of this word is dubious, but its 
original meaning seems to have been weak 
drink, especially beer or cider. Does any 
reader think that the " weak drink " used 
to wassail apple-trees at Christmas, a 
ceremony which has been connected with the 
ritual appropriate to the Norse god Balder, 
may have been called " balderdash " ? Has 
such an origin ever been discussed ? (See 
Herford, ' Norse Myths in English Poetry,' 
Bulletin of John Ry lands' Library, v. t 
nos. 1 and 2). MABY BBOCAS. 



JOSIAS CONDER. I have been asked to try 
to find a portrait of Josias Conder. He was 
born in 1789, and was editor of The Eclectic 
Review and The Patriot newspaper. He was 
a publisher, living at one time in Bucklers- 
bury, and was well known as a Noncon- 
formist and friend of Isaac Taylor. His son 
Eustace Conder, once a Congregational 
minister, wrote a memoir of his father in 
1857, but it had no portrait. 


110 Albany Street, Regent's Park, N.W.I. 


1. Vecors segnities insignia nescit Amoris. 

2. Tu, quod es e populo, quilibet esse potes. 


3. Can any reader tell me where to find the follow- 
ing lines ? 

Ou sont les gratieux gallons 
Que je suyvoye au temps jadis 
Si bien chantans, si biens parlans, 
Si plaisans en faictz et en dictz? 
Les aucuns sont mortz et roydiz, 
D'eulx n'est-il plus rien maintenant 
Repos ayent en paradis 
Et Dieu saulve le remenant. 


4. Who is the Author of the following and when 
and where did they appear ? 

A little sod, a few sad flowers, 

A tear for long-departed hours, 

Is all that feeling hearts request 

To hush their weary thoughts to rest. 

12 Buckett Road, Harringay, N. 

(12 S. vi. 67.) 

OXFORD GRADUATE cites Alabaster's sonnet 
from an anthology of 1913. The editor of 
the latter must have taken it from an article 
in The Athenceum written by the late Mr. 
Bertram Dobell about a dozen years ago. 
Mr. Dobell, having discovered Alabaster to 
be the author of a manuscript volume of 
verse in his possession, printed a most 
interesting article about it, illustrated by 
extracts from the sonnets it contained. The 
date I cannot at present supply ; but 
doubtless it could be learned from Mr. Percy 
J. Dobell, 77 Charing Cross Road. There 
are at least two other Alabaster MSS. of this 
same sonnet sequence, which I have seen 
and collated. A few years ago QTJARITCH 
.had, and sold, a Jacobean MS. of poetry, 
formerly in the Phillips Collection, which, 

according to the catalogue, contained English^ 
verses by Jonson, Randolph, " Dr. Alla- 
blaster," and others ; but no record seems 
to have been kept of the purchaser, and 
search so far is in vain. My own theory is 
that Alabaster wrote the then fashionable- 
" century " of sonnets : of these I have traced 

Their quality is certainly high, and shows 
a powerful mind worthy of that great 
generation. They are all religious, and were- 
apparently written in prison for Recusancy in 
1597. Alabaster became a Catholic, not in 
Spain after the Cadiz voyage with Essex, as. 
all the biographical notices say, but at home. 
He wandered in and out of the " olde- 
religion " for nearly all the rest of his life, 
but died Vicar of Therfield in 1640. His- 
birthdate is 1567, not 1565, as given by 

Spenser, Herrick, and other contem- 
poraries who mention Alabaster, never refer- 
to his English verse, which seems to have 
been kept secret " amongst his privat 

The Rev. John Hungerford Pollen, S.J.,, 
printed in The Month (perhaps about 1912)> 
a paper which, unlike Mr. Dobell' s, threw a~ 
good deal of light on Alabaster's hitherto- 
lost biography. A few sonnets are given in, 
the text, and it is there added that some day 
the undersigned contributor to ' N. & Q.' 
proposes making this notable old poet, 
known only by his Latin writings, into ant- 
English book. L. I. GUINEY. 

There is a notice of William Alabaster,. 
Latin poet and divine, in the ' D.N.B.' 
OXFORD GRADUATE'S question, whether he- 
" was favourably regarded as a poet of 
distinction by his contemporaries " is 
answered by Fuller, who in counting him 
among the ' Worthies of Suffolk ' styles him 
" A most rare Poet as any our Age or Nation 
hath produced." Perhaps Alabaster is best 
remembered at the present day as the author 
of the epigram beginning : " Bella inter 
geminos plusquam civilia fratres," on the- 
two brothers Rainolds, for whose story see 
US. viii. 131. EDWARD BENSLY. 

Oudle Cottage, Much Hadham, Herts. 

The affray in which Robert Trotman was 
" murdered " was doubtless one of the- 
numerous encounters between smugglers ancL 
revenue officers which " constitute almost all 1 
that is known of Bournemouth " before its 
foundation in 1811 by Mr. Tregonwell. The- 
seacoast between Christchurch and Poole,,,, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


where the boundary line between Hampshire 
and Dorset comes down to the sea, offered by 
its fringe of chines a favourable opportunity 
for the smuggling of contraband goods : 

" All classes contributed to its support. The 
farmers lent their teams and labourers, and the 
gentry openly connived at the practice and dealt 
with the smugglers." . 

At Heron Court, now the seat of the Earl of 
Malmesbury, the squire sat at dinner with 
his back to the window, that he might not see 
the waggons loaded with the kegs of brandy 
drive past the house. See Mate and Riddle's 
' Bournemouth,' chap. ii. 


A MS. copy of the above epitaph, which I 
have in my possession, supplies one of the 
facts relating to Trotman's death as to which 
MK. PAGE inquires. Between the locus in 
quo (Poole) and the date occur the words: 
" in an affray with the coast guard." The 
deceased was evidently a smuggler, engaged 
in " running " a contraband cargo of tea, 
when he met his death at the hands of the 
Preventive Service. J. S. UDAL. 

MINSTER (12 S. vi. 65). It is true that the 
study of genealogy has made great progress 
since 1875, when Col. Chester printed the 
' Registers of Westminster Abbey.' May I 
make the practical suggestion that ' N. & Q.' 
should be supplied with the rest of the list 
of the unannotated twenty-nine marriages ? 
I am pretty sure that something can be said 
about them. GEORGE SHERWOOD. 

2. "Matthew Gafford and Martha Bart- 
let." If the name Gafford ever existed, 
which we doubt, it was indeed a very rare 
surname. A collection of several million 
references to surnames occurring in the 
national records contains no Gafford. We 
suggest that this bridegroom was a Gosford 
and that his Christian name was Richard, 
not Matthew. On the very same day, 
Nov. 26, 1656, Richard Gosford is recorded 
at St. Margaret's, Westminster, as marrying 
Martha Bartlett. Genealogy abounds in 
coincidences, still it is difficult to credit that 
two Martha Bartletts were married at West- 
minster on the same day, one at the Abbey 
to Matthew Gafford and the other at 
St. Margaret's to Richard Gosford. Col. 
Chester's preface refers to the confusion 
between these two registers. We find we 
have numerous references to the name 
Gosford in our collection. There was a 
carpenter of this surname living at Richmond, 
Surrey, 1689-1701 (see Public Record Office, 

C.9,474/65, and the printed parish registers 
of Richmond). 

3. " John Lyon and Elizabeth Paul." 
The bride is probably the Elizabeth, daughter 
of Henry Pawle, who was baptized at 
St. Margaret's, Westminster, April 3, 1636_ 

4. The date is 1669, not 1696 as printed 
in the query. BERNAIT & BERNAU. 

20 Charleville Road, W.14. 

"CATHOLIC" (12 S. vi. 12). If being. 
" adopted by the Church " means incor- 
porated in the historic Creeds, it was nob. 
until the fifth century that the term was so- 
crystallized in the West. The title "Holy 
Church " sufficed for the earliest Christians ; 
but the word was frequently used, subse- 
quent to Ignatius, by Tertullian and other- 
writers to distinguish, primarily, the Church 
Universal from its local parts. In Eastern 
creeds the use of the term occurs as early as- 
A.D. 326 (vide Swete, 'Holy Catholic 
Church'). C. J. TOTTENHAM. 

Diocesan Church House, Liverpool. 

Westcott in 'The Bible in the Church' 
says that the term " Catholic " first occurs^ 
in the letter of Ignatius to the Church at 
Smyrna. Ignatius died in 107 or 116.. 
Polycarp (d. 166 or 169) is the next authority 
who applies the term to the Churches^ 
throughout the world. 

St. Cyril warned his people that if they- 
sojourned in any city it was not sufficient 
for them to inquire for the church or the 
Lord's house, for Marcionists, Manichees, and 
all sorts of heretics, professed to be of the 
Church and called their places of assembly 
the house of the Lord, but they ought to 
ask : " Where is the Catholic Church ? " 
For this is the peculiar name of " the Holy 
Body, the mother of us all, the spouse of the- 
Lord Jesus Christ." M. A. 

In the course of a long and instructive 
article on this word in the ' Catholic En- 
cyclopaedia,' iii. 449-52, Fr. H. ^Thurston,, 
S'.J., says that the combination 17 KaSoXiKrf 
(KK\r](ria. " is found for the first time in the 
letter of St. Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans- 
written about the year 110." 


The origin of the word " Catholic " i 
traced in the ' Catholic Encyclopaedia,' many 
references and quotations being given. The 
earliest meaning of the word was " universal," 
and in this sense it occurs in the Greek 
classics, e.g., in Aristotle and Polybius ; and 
it was freely used by the earlier Christian 
writers in what may be called its primitive. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 10, 1920, 

and non-ecclesiastical sense. The more 
technical use of the term, as " Catholic 
Church," occurs more than once in the 
' Muratorian Fragment ' (circa 180), where, 
for example, it js said of certain heretical 
writings that they " cannot be received in 
the Catholic Church." A little later Clement 
of Alexandria speaks very clearly. ' ; We 
say," he declares, " that both in substance 
and in seeming, both in origin and in develop- 
ment, the primitive and Catholic Church is 
the only one, agreeing as it does in the unity 
of one faith." From this and other passages 
which might be quoted, the technical use 
seems to have been clearly established by the 
beginning of the third century. 


vi. 19). Attention may be called to an 
article upon the Blakistone family contained 
in The Maryland Historical Magazine for 
1907, vol. ii., pp. 54 and 172, in which it is 
shown that Blakiston's descendants came to 
Maryland and are a prominent family there 
down to the present time. 


Enoch Pratt Free Library of Baltimore City. 

FINKLE STREET (12 S. v. 69, 109, 279; 
"vi. 25). -As seventy years have elapsed since 
the first query " as to the derivation and 
meaning of the word Finkle, or Finkel, as 
applied to the name of a street," was asked 
,by W. M. at 1 S. i. 384, the following brief 
resume of the correspondence relating 
thereto may be of interest to readers who 
.have not access to the early series of 
'N. & Q.' 

In the query six north country towns were 
mentioned as having streets so named. A 
suggestion followed (p. 419) that ftnkle 
means "fennel," whilst another corre- 
spondent pointed out (p. 477) " that the 
Danish word vincle applied to an angle or 
corner, is perhaps a more satisfactory deriva- 
tion than fceniculum," and added the 
.interesting comment : " It is in towns where 
there are traces of Danish occupation that a 
Finkle Street is found ; and some of those 
streets are winding or angular." 

From 1850 to 1881 the question remained 
dormant, being revived by ANON. (6 S. 
iv. 166), who found it difficult to understand 
" how the plant fennel should give name to a 
village ; and harder still to account for its 
union with the name street in more instances 
than one." CANON VENABLES writes (6 S. 
vi. 476) : " There is little doubt that, as Mr. 
R. Ferguson suggested in his ' Northmen in 
Cumberland and Westmoreland,' it is derived 

from the Scandinavian vinkel, a corner," 
adding : " Fennel is surely too common a 
plant to have given a distinctive name to so 
many streets." PROF. WALTER W. SKEAT, 
commenting on a suggestion " to derive 
Finkel from the Norse vinkel, an elbow," 
writes (6 S. viii. 522) : " Why Norse ? 
Vinkel is Danish and Swedish, and means 
' an angle, a corner.' ' ; 

A recrudescence of the query occurs at 
12 S. v. 69, by J. T. F., who desires " any 
explanation of a supposed derivation of 
Finkle from a word meaning a bend or elbow, 
or similar deviation from a straight line." 
At 12 S. v. 279 MRS. FAWCETT supplies a 
list " of seven north country towns having 
streets so designated, all these streets being 
crooked or having corners in them," adding : 
" The word comes from the Danish vinkel or 
vinkle, an angle or corner." 

Now the street-name Finkle is doubtless 
one of considerable antiquity and has been 
transformed by later usage. An instance of 
such possible transformation is supplied in 
Winkle Street, not far from " Canute's " 
Palace in Southampton, which possibly dates 
back to the Danish occupation. The Rev. 
Sylvester Davies, in his history of the town, 
writes :- 

" The sea washed the town walls on each side 
of the quay ; and the only way from the land side 
on the east, was through Godhouse Gate and 
Winkle Street, with its bend northward. The 
original entrance to Winkle Street from the High 
Street was by a narrow passage, the mouth of 
which opened a little due east of the Water Gate ; 
thus the street or alley veiy much followed the 
bend of the Avail." 

PROF. SKEAT says that the Scandinavian 
v was formerly w, and corresponds to E. w, 
not to/. JOHN L. WHITEHEAD, M.D. 


Finkle Street in St. Bees may have been 
called Fennel Street by a conjectural 
" emendation." Within my recollection 
Wrengate in Wakefield has been converted 
into Warrengate, as if named from the Earls 
of Warren. J. T. F. 

Winterton, Doncaster. 

HAMILTON (8. S. xii. 507 ; 12 S. v. 289, 
327). A few elates may prove of interest to 
our French-Canadian friends. Hector Theo- 
philus Cramake (sic) became captain in the 
15th Foot Mar. 12, 1754, and was its senior 
captain when it was stationed in America in 
1761, but retired Mar. 22 or May 4, 1761. 
Francis Le Maistre was made lieutenant in 
the newly-raised 98th Foot Oct. 28, 1760 ; 
lieutenant 7th Royal Fuzileers July 18, 1766 ; 
also adjutant thereof Oct. 8, 1767 (? till 

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:Sept. 5, 1776) ; captain in the army ( ? in 

same regiment), May 6, 1776 ; captain 8th 
Foot Nov. 5, 1776 ; senior captain thereof, 
when he left, Aug. 8, 1788 ; stationed in 
Canada in 1784. A - - Hamilton died at 
Antigua 1761 (London Mag.}. One Henry 
Hamilton was serving in America in 1763 ; 

appointed lieutenant 15th Foot Sept. 2, 
1756 ; captain thereof Oct. 30, 1762, till he 

.left the army about 1775. A younger Henry 
Hamilton became ensign 17th Foot Sept. 9, 
.1777 ; lieutenant Sept. 18, 1780 ; captain 

July 27, 1785 ; senior captain in 1795, till 
succeeded June 23, 1796 ; brevet-major 

-May 6, 1795. W. R. WILLIAMS. 

'(12 S. v. 236, 278). Sir Gilbert Affleck, 2nd 
bart., of Dalham Hall, Suffolk, married at 
St. George's, Hanover Square, July 18, 1796, 
Mary, relict of Richard Vassal, Esq., of 
Jamaica (who died in 1795), and daughter of 
Thomas Clarke of New York. He died 
without issue in 1803, and she died in 1835. 

There is a biography of him in Charles 
Atmore's ' Methodist Memorial,' 1801, 
(pp. 488-491. J. W. FAWCETT. 

Consett, co. Durham. 

CURIOUS SURNAMES (12 S. vi. 68). Prof. 
Ernest Weekley, in ' The Romance of 
Names,' at p. 206 says : 

" Golightly means much the same as Lightfoot, 
nor need we hesitate to regard the John Gotobed 
who lived in Cambridgeshire in 1273 as a notorious 
sluggard compared with whom his neighbour Serl 
;gO-to-kirke was a shining example." 

In a note he adds : 

" The name is still found in the same county. 
Undergraduates contemporary with the author 
occasionally slaked their thirst at a riverside inn 
kept by Bathsheba Gotobed." 

In has ' Surnames,' at. pp 138-9, the 
Professor writes : 

" In. nay' Romance of Xames ' (p. 12(5) I have 
suggested that Handyside, Hendyside, may 
possibly represent M.E. heiide side, gracious 
custom, but the variant Haudasyde suggests a 
possible nickname of attitude, ' hand at side,' for 

a man fond of standing with arms akimbo ; cf. 
Guillelmas Escu-a-Col (Pachnio). The formation 
of Strongitharm is somewhat similar." 

.At p. 260 he writes : 

' Fullalove, Fullilove, is, of course, ' full of 
love,' commoner in the Rolls in the form Plein- 

damour, which still exists in Dorset as Bland - 

"There are or were recently Fulleyloves in 

When I was house-surgeon at St. Thomas's 
Hospital in 1856-57 the names of the dressers 
for the week posted in the out-patients' room 
one week were Wrench, Grabham, and 
Slaughter ; the two former were a little 
ominous for patients who came for tooth 
extraction gratis. About the same time 
there were three undergraduates of Christ's 
College, Cambridge, named Fisher, Flesher, 
and Fowler. In the Selby Coucher-book, 
vol. i., p. 207, is : " Carta Willelmi filii 
Ranulfi Spurneturtoys." J. T. F. 

All three of these names are nicknames and 
are prevalent elsewhere than Manchester. 
Fullolove (full of love) is known in Norfolk, 
and has variants in spelling ; Gotobed is to 
be found in Nottingham and Cambridge ; 
whilst Strongitharm is essentially Cheshire: 
Cheshire born, Cheshire bred, 
Strong i' th' arm, weak i' th' yed. 
" This couplet," says Harrison, " may really 
owe its origin to the fact that the name is 
(or was) mostly a Cheshire surname." All 
three surnames appear in the current London 

The name Gotobecl occurs at the small 
town of Somersham, Hunts, and in the same 
place many other rare and curious names are 
met vnfh, e.g.\ Allebone, Bodger, Butteriss, 
Cawcutt, Ciuelow, Criswell, Goodchild, Good- 
year, Goodenough, Gowler, Orbell, Patmer, 
Scales, See, Seekins, Setchfielcl, Skeels, 
Touch, Tweed, Wesson, and Wheaton. 

In the register of baptisms at Bicester, 
Oxon, on Sept. 2, 1677, Edward, son of 
Thomas Rhubarb, a stranger, was baptized. 
This name I have never previously heard. 
Does it occur elsewhere ? 



MELKART'S STATUE (12 S. v. 292). The 
Larousse Dictionary is most unhappy in its 
statement. Pliny 'expressly says that the 
(statue of) Hercules before which the 
Carthaginians had yearly offered a human 
victim was held in no honour at Rome and 
was placed in no temple, but stood on the 
ground before the entrance to the " porticus 
ad nationes " :- 

" Inhonorus est nee in templo ullo Hercules ad 
quern 1'oeni omnibus annis humana sacrifica- 
verant victima, humi stans ante aditum porticus 
ad nationes." ' Nat. Hist.,' xxxvi. 5, [12], 39. 

The Servian commentary on ' ^Eneid, ' 
viii. 721, says that this colonade was. built 
by Augustus and bore the name " ad 
nationes " because he had placed in it figures 
of all nations. In some editions of the 


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' Natural History ' the words : " Inhonorus 
est nee in ternplo ullo " were, in defiance of 
the MSS., altered to : "In honore est et in 
templo illo," which made nonsense of the 
latter part of the sentence. 


JAMES (12 S. vi. 39). William James, 
D.D., Dean of Christ Church 1584-96, was 
born at Sandbach, Cheshire, in 1542. 

See Wood's ' Athense Oxon.,' ed. Bliss, 
ii. 203 ; Lansdowne MS. 983, f. 297, 984, 
f. 194 ; ' Alumni West.,' 14 ; Foster's ' Index 
Eccl.' ; and Wood's ' Fasti,' i. 196. 


Christ Church, Oxford. 

PIBIE (12 S. vi. 11). Sir John Pirie. 
1st Bart. (1781-51), and Lord Mayor of 
London in 1841-42, was the eldest "son of 
John Pirie of Dunse, Berwickshire. 


MEWS OR MEWYS FAMILY (12 S. iii. 92, 421 ; 
iv. 166). In Wotton's 'Baronetage' (1741) 
it is stated of Sarah (Stukely), the widow in 
1725 of John Cobb, D.D., that "she was 
afterwards m. in 1726, to - St. John of 
Farley, in Hants, Esq. ; and after his death 
to her third husband, Capt. Francis Town- 
send." The only contemporary officer in the 
army of that name that I can find is the one 
given in Dalton, viii. 370, 371, as follows : 

" Fra-s. Townshend to be Ens. in the Coldstream 
Guards. April 28, 1725 ; lieutenant and captain 
Aug. 25. 1737 : wounded at Fontenoy May 11, 
N.S., 1745, and died the same day." 

I have no doubt that this was the man, and 
that, as ensigns generally joined at 17 or 18 
years of age, he was probably some twenty 
years younger thai, aie wife. Presumably 
he would be on or brother to George 
Townshend, the owner of the lands at 
Donnington, co. Gloucester. 

In the foregoing correspondence I do not 
remember seeing any reference to the 
following man : Sir Peter Mews, M.P. for 
Christchurch 1710 till he died Mar. 19, 1726 ; 
knighted July 13, 1712; Chancellor of 
Winchester diocese 1698 till death; seated 
at Hinton Admiral, Hants. He matriculated 
from St. John's College, Oxford, May 31, 
1688, aged 15 ; B.C.L. All Souls' College 
1695, as son of John Mews of London, (son of 
Peter Mews, Bishop of Winchester 1684 to 
1706). ^ See Foster's ' Alumni Oxon.' and 
Chester's ' Westminster Abbey Registers,' 
p. 44. Samuel Mews, Prebendary of Win- 
chester, died June 19, 1706, cet. 75. 


(12 S. vi. 12). I should say from MR. 
HATTON'S description of the conveyance- 
recently presented to the Pump Room at 
Bath that it is in all respects identical with a 
machine constructed circa 1809 by a car- 
penter named John Betcher at Brighton and 
patronized extensively by the Prince of 
Wales and his noble companions. It is- 
very fully described in "Mr. John Ackerson^ 
Erridge's ' History of Brighton ' and quoted?: 
at length by Cuthbert Bede at 3 S. iv. 346- 
in connexion with the genesis of the word 
" fly " as a four-wheeled conveyance. These 
quasi-sedan chairs were called " fly by 

JENNER FAMILY (12 S. v. 149, 245). In> 
support of my conjecture as to the paternity- 
of Thomas Jenner, D.L>., President oT 
Magdalen College, Oxford, I may say that iiii 
his will he mentions his nephew Vincent 
Jenner ; the latter administered to his; 
father Josiah's effects, 1750. The President 
also mentions his niece Elizabeth, wife of 
Henry Jordan, who was a sister of Vincent's. 
Again, Foster's ' Alumni ' I find has " Josi " 
in inverted commas, as if uncertain. The 
list of Josiah and Hester Jenner' s children: 
given by me at 12 S. v. 149 probably is 
from Standish, at all events the Vicar of 
Standish vouches for the entry as to baptism 
of Thomas Jenner, son of Josiah and Heater f . 
his wife, Dec. 26, 1687. 


SHIELD OF FLANDERS (12 S. v. 238, 323) 
This gyronny coat may be traced best by- 
beginning with Papworth, who, on p. 685,. 
quotes Sandford's ' Genealogical History off 
the Kings and Queens of England.' While 
hardly to be caUed evidence, it seems 
Sandford hp-1 a measure of instillation foir 
what he said. What he does say (1707 ed.. 
Stebbing, p. 2) is that on the tomb of Queen 
Elizabeth in Henry VII.'s Chape, at West- 
minster are certain attributed arms " for tha^ 
Conqueror impaled with those of Queen Maud 
of Flanders his wife, viz. : Gyronny of 8 or 
and az. an inescutcheon gu." He adds that 
these arms are attributed " to the foresters 
and first earls of Flanders " doubtless rather 
hypothetical personages " to the time of 
Robert the Frison," and for this he gives as- 
his authority " Olivarius Vredius in Sigilla 
Com. Flandriae, p. 6." On turning to- 
Vrediiis (Bruges, 1639) it is at once apparent 
that this reference is entirely misleading. 
At the page cited, Vredius says, indeed, that 
Robert Friso used a lion seal ( " leonis typo- 

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timpressum "), but from his account of 
Friso's predecessors it is manifest that, when 
the counts used seals at all, they used King 
Philip's seal, of which Vredius quotes sundry 

Sandford further says (ibid., p. 16) that 
Wm., Earl of Flanders, son of Robert of 
Normandy, is reported to have borne this 
gyronny coat ; but again there is no evidence, 
-and Sandford himself says further that, as a 
matter of tradition, this coat was abandoned 
by this William when, after slaying a Moslem 
king of Albania, he took his arms. Perhaps 
the fact that this Moslem bore the black lion 
rampant in a gold field is in need of some 
support. Finally Sandford gives a figure 
('ibid., p. 519) of Queen Elizabeth's tomb 
aforesaid, where this gyronny coat is im- 
paled in the middle shield over the head of 
the queen's recumbent effigy. 

There thus seems to be no reason whatever 
for dragging in Vredius : what basis there 
might be for the tale about William, Earl of 
Flanders, does not appear ; that the coat is 
in any sense genuine seems highly doubtful. 
I certainly should not have alluded to the 
<;oat at all if I had first looked up the 
reference to Vredius, although I knew the 
arms were on Queen Elizabeth's tomb. 

H. I. HALL. 

9 Neeld Parade, Wembley Hill. 

" Les armes des anchiens contes de flandres 
fut gyronne d'or et d'asur, de dyx pieces, 
a 1'escu de gueulle parmy ...." From 
* L'Anchienne Noblesse de la. . . .Contee de 
flandres,' written about 1557 by Corneille 
Gailliard, King of Arms of the Emperor 
Charles V. Published in 1866 by Jean van 
Malderghem (Brussels, Vanderauwera), to- 
gether with, and under the title of, the same 
author's ' Blason des Armes.' 

So far as I know, this is the first occurrence 
of this entirely imaginary coat o'f arms. 
"The lion of Flanders appears in 1170 on the 
seal of Philip, Count of Flanders, which was, 
indeed, for a long time considered the oldest 
seal showing an armorial shield. 

Baugy sur Clarena. 


v. 318). I do not know the particular titles 

in the query, but in "Pro and Con. A 

Journal for Literary Investigation. Edited 

by Walter Hamilton, F.R.G.S.," of which 

no. 4 (the only one I have) appeared Mar. 15, 

1873, is chap. iii. of " An Introduction to the 

History of our Poets Laureate. By the 

Editor " ; and also an illustrated paper on 

" George Cruikshank, his Life and Works,' 

which, though unsigned, was afterwards so 
incorporated in Hamilton's ' George Cruik- 
shank, Artist and Humorist,' published in 
pamphlet form in 1878, as to leave no doubt 
as to the authorship of the earlier paper. On 
Feb. 28, 1873. Hamilton had read a paper on 
the ' Life, Works, and Genius of George 
Cruikshank ' before the Society of Literary 
Twaddlers, of which he was secretary, which 
was probably that published a few days or 
weeks after, under a slightly different name 
(Pro and Con, passim). W. B. H. 

vi. 39). Stokes's mnemonical figure alpha- 
bet was very similar to others which had 
appeared at various times after Winckel- 
mann's in 1684. It was as follows : 1 was 
represented by t or d ; 2 by n ; 3 by in ; 
4 by r ; 5 by I ; 6 by j ; sh or zh ; 7 by k, q 
or g (hard) ; 8 by f or v ; 9 by p or b ; 6 by *, 
z or c (soft). 

I possess several of his privately issued 
lessons as well as several books published 
by him between 1866 and 1877. In a series 
of articles which I wrote for Pitman's 
Journal reference will be found in the issues 
of June 22, Aug. 3, 10, and 24, 1918, to 
various features of Stokes's system. 


Newton-le-Willows, Lanes. 

My father, T. H. Baker, who died in 1914 
has often told me of his going to the London 
Polytechnic to hear Mr. Stokes's lecture, 
I think in 1873 ; anyway amongst his books 
I have a small handbook ' Stokes on 
Memory,' 4th edn., 1873 (published by 
Houlston & Sons, Paternoster Buildings) in 
which the whole system is explained at 
length. FRANCES E. BAKER. 

91 Brown Street, Salisbury. 

William Stokes wrote several small books 
on mnemonics. One ' Memory ' was pub- 
lished by Houlston & Wright, 65 Paternoster 
Row in 1866-67. 'The Pictorial Multi- 
plication Table ' is the work MAJOR PELHAM 
BURN has in his mind. THOS. WHITE. 

Junior Reform Club, Liverpool. 

No doubt the Mr. Stokes of MAJOR 
PELHAM BURN'S query, is the William 
Stokes who published a volume entitled 
' Stokes on Memory,' my copy of which is 
the " Seventh edition, revised and enlarged, 
with engravings," dated on its title-page 
1866. He issued also a series of separate 
little pamphlets (enclosed loose in a case 
giving the " leading dates," with " mne- 
monical key" to each), on 'Battles,' 'Roman 
History,' ' Grecian History,' ' Distances 


and Diameters of the Planets,' and other 
subjects, including ' Miscellaneous Dates.' 
Other works by Mr. Stokes advertised in his 
' Memory ' volume are : ' The Divine Origin 
of Mnemonics,' ' The Pictorial Multiplica- 
tion Table,' ' The Syllable-ized Pictorial 
Alphabet,' ' Rapid Plan of teaching Reading 
without Spelling,' ' The Historical Chrono- 
meter, with Revolving Centre and Selections 
of Important Facts and Dates,' ' The Mne- 
monical Globe most Remarkable Aid in 
teaching Geography,' and a large number 
(36) of separate lectures all connected with 
mnemonics. In the ' Memory ' volume 
Mr. Stokes says that he " was identified with 
the Royal Colosseum from June, 1861, till 
1863." He is, however, probably best 
known as having for many years lectured 
on mnemonics at the old Regent Street 
Polytechnic. F. J. HYTCH. 

Frankfort Lodge, Park Road, Crouch End, N.8. 

SURREY (12 S. v. 284 ; vi. 15). I am much 
indebted to H. C. for correcting the mistakes 
in my note and also for the additional in- 
formation furnished. 

The arms of the family engraved on some 
church plate at Egham are : On a f ess between 
three moorcocks as many mullets. 

Alas for my little pedigree ! A further search 
shows that the Adrian who died in 1655 
could not have been the son of the Adrian 
who died in 1672, for the latter had only a 
daughter Grizella, aged 6 in 1632. 

Nor can I fit in the Thomas, son of Adrian, 
who matriculated from C.C.C., Oxon, in 1674. 
The writer in the ' D.X.B.' is inclined to 
identify him with Sir Thomas Moore the 
playwright, who died in 1735. Apparently 
there was another branch of the family about 
who had a fancy for the name of Adrian. 

On going through the diary again I find a 
note that indicates that they were a Dorset 
family and were seated there 2 Hen. VI., 

The diary bears out the correction by 
H. C. respecting Chilcomb, which is not 
mentioned after 1601. 


Frome, Somerset. 

'TOM JONES' (12 S. v. 268, 303, 327; 
vi. 23). Although the replies have now 
somewhat diverged from the original ques- 
tion, it may be worth noting that the 
investigations of Mr. J. J. Hammond of 
Salisbury and of Canon Mayo of Gillingham, 
Dorset, establish that John, grandfather of 
Henry Fielding, was successively Prebendary 
of Yatesbury, Oct. 13, 1677, of Beaminster 

Prima, Feb. 23, 1678, and of Gillingham- 
Major, Jan. 24, 1682, and that he signed the- 
Subscription Book on his collation to 
Beaminster Prima as Fielding, but on 
collation to Gillingham Major as Feilding. 
His son Edmund, on 'the one hand who, 
by the way, w r as never possessed of means- 
wherewith to be extravagant always signed 
as Feilding, while his grandson Henry, on 
the other hand, invariably signed as 
Fielding. This is clearly shown by original 
photographs in my possession from deeds 
executed both by father and son. 

1 Essex Court, Temple, E.C.4. 

LEWKNOR FAMILY (12 S. v. 201 ; vi. 44). 
In ' The Family of Moore,' by the Countess- 
of Drogheda (Dublin, 1906), I find : 

" Walter Moore of Benenden, d. 1504 (will at 
Canterbury), married Alice, dau. of Edward 
Lewknor of Kingston Bewsis, Sussex, Esq., and 
Ellenor his wife, dau. of John Pagenham." 

In the Lewknor pedigree in ' Sussex Archaeo- 
logical Collections,' iii. 90-102, I find no 
marriage with any Pagenham, and the only 
Moore-Lewknor marriage is Joane, youngest 
sister of the first Edward Lewknor of 
Kingston-Bowey, married Thomas Moore as 
her first husband. Perhaps MR. WATNE- 
WRIGHT could throw some light on these 

Walter Moore's grandfather was Thomas,- 
and he married Agnes Austen. Walter's 
eldest son was Thomas (will 1519), and the 
name of his wife appears to be unknown. 

A. M. B. IRWIN. 

49 Ailesbury Road, Dublin. 

v. 314). The Basilla therein mentioned is 
probably St. Basilla of whom nothing is 
known except the fact of her martyrdom. 
The fourth -century ' Index XVI. Coemi- 
teriorum ' in the Vatican mentions " Coemi- 
terium Basillae ad S. Hermen Via Salaria," 
while other MSS. of this Index in the 
Biblioteca Chigiana and the Biblioteca 
Laurenziana have " Coemiterium Basille ad 
S. Hermetem Via Salaria Vetere." The 
fourth-century ' Depositio Martyrum ' of the 
Philocalian Calendar has " X. Kal. Oct. 
Basillse, Salaria Vetere, Diocletiano VIIII. et 
Maximiano VIII. Cons.," i.e., Sept. 22, 304. 

The ' Martyrologium Hieronymianum,' 
the date of which has been fixed as not earlier 
than 592 or later than 600, under the date 
June 11 mentions the anniversary of 
St. Basilla at Rome on the Via Salaria. The 
sixth-century ' Index Oleorum ' at Monza 
also mentions " Sea Basilla " under ' Via 

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Salaria Vetus.' The ' Itinerarium Melmes- 
buriense ' of the seventh or early eighth 
century mentions St. Vasella as resting near 
the road close to the fourth gate on the Via 
Salaria, which used to be called the Gate of 
St. Silvester. See Miss Ethel Ross Barker's 
' Rome of the Pilgrims and Martyrs ' 
(London, 1913), pp. 98, 106, 118, 215, 338, 
339. It is possible that St. Basilla was 
martyred June 11, 304, and her body secretly 
disposed of, and not formally buried in the 
cemetery of St. Hermes till Sept. 22 in the 
same year. Her relics were by S. Paschal I. 
transferred to the Church of Santa Prassede 
July 20, 818 (Marucchi, ' Basiliques et Eglises 
de Rome,' Paris and Rome, 1902, pp. 325-7); 
but they have, T believe, now disappeared. 

The author of ' Christian Inscriptions,' 
quoted at this reference, tells me that " the 
expression Somno JEternali " is to be 
accounted for by the fact that the Christians 
bought up partly prepared gravestones made 
by pagans which began with the conventional 
formulae. One also finds " D.M.," i.e.. " Dis 
Manibus." With regard to Commando and 
innocentia, branded by me as illiterate 
blunders for Cammendo and innocentiam, it 
has been pointed out to me that these were 
usual in late or low Latin, but all the same 
they are specimens of a degenerate Latinity. 
J. B. McGovERisr. 

St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester. 

' ADESTE FIDELES ' (12 S. v. 292, 329 ; 
vi. 23). Your correspondent probably 
knows the account of this hymn in Cowan 
and Love's ' The Music of the Church 
Hymnary,' 1901, p. 5. If he is interested 
in the music, I would refer him to The 
Musical Antiquary, April, 1910, p. 188, which 
may have escaped his notice. 

G. E. P. A. 

(12 S. iv. 304.) 

" Quand Italic sera sans poison," &c., is quoted 
in ' Southey's Commonplace Book,' 3rd Series, 
at pp. 4, 5. from " Leigh's Observations, p. 422," 
in a very slightly different form. 

Presumably the reference is to Edward Leigh's 
' Selected and Choice Observations concerning the 
Twelve First Caesars,' the second edition of which, 
published in London in 1647, had an appendix of 
" Certaine choice French Proverbs " ; but I have 
not verified it. 

(12 S. vi. 68.) 

1. Mr. W. Gurney Benharn ( ' Cassell's Book of 
Quotations,' p. 450), attributed the lines to Mrs. 
R. A. M. Stevenson and adds "Given by Frank 
Dieksee, R.A., as a motto to his picture 'The 
Reverie,' exhibited at the Royal Academy, 1895." 

0n Uoofts. 

What Became of the Bones of St. Thomas ? A Con - 
tribution to His Fifteenth Jubilee. By Arthur 
James Mason, (hambridge (University Press, 

CANON MASON has here brought together all the 
original documents forming the sources of our 
knowledge of the martyrdom of St. Thomas of 
Canterbury, and the history of his shrine. The 
purpose of the book is to enable the reader to 
draw his own conclusions as to the likelihood of 
the bones, which were discovered some thirty 
years ago in the eastern crypt of the cathedral, 
being those of the murdered Archbishop. 

Two points have to be established as a founda- 
tion for a conclusion : that the body of Becket 
was hidden, and not, as had been supposed, 
burnt ; and that the present condition of the skull 
discovered in the crypt is compatible with the 
accounts of the wounds which the murderers dealt 
their victim. 

The skull, as is shown by the photograph Canon 
Mason gives us, is badly shattered, and, in 
particular, there is a long and wide wound 
running from the left side of the crown back 
towards the base of the skull. The crown, 
however, is not broken, and this is staggering to- 
the advocate of the identification, for, of the five 
men present at the scene of the murder, four 
declare that the crown was cut off. On the other 
hand the description of the head after death, and 
of the manner in which they were able to bandage 
it, and also the mention of a kind of circlet of 
blood round the head, make it very difficult to 
believe that a large portion of the crown of the 
skull itself was shorn away. The accounts differ 
considerably as to the blows dealt, their succession 
and effect. Is it possible that the corona cut off 
was the scalp? Grim's words seem to suggest 
it : " et summitate coronse, quam sancti chrismatis 
unctio dicaverat Deo, abrasa. . . .vulneravit in 
capite, eodem ictu prseciso brachio hsec referentis." 
Summitate abrasa appears hardly to be the natural 
way to describe the cutting through of a skull, 
while the descent of the blow with so much effect 
upon the arm of Grim affords some presumption 
that it had not met with the full resistance for 
which it was calculated. It seems clear that 
St. Thomas fell on his right side. The left side of 
the skull, shown in the photograph, has been 
broken into fragments towards the base. A living 
head lying on the ground, injured as this has been 
with the brains and blood scattered about the 
huge wound, might well on the left side 
present the appearance of having the crown 

The question of the preservation of St. Thomas's 
bones presents, we think, greater difficulties. 
What evidence there is is slight ; and, on the whole 
goes in favour of the relics having been burnt. 
The conclusion most plain men will draw from the 
materials which Canon Mason has so laboriously 
and ably put together, is that the problem remains 
and will remain insoluble. That itself is by no 
means a conclusion to be despised ; but even if it 
were, the value of this little work would not 
thereby be diminished. The sections on .the 
Tomb and the Shrine and on the Destruction of 
the Shrine include all the original descriptive 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 10, 1920. 

- notices of these ; and the account of the supposed 
discovery of the bones is enlivened by the 
inclusion of some excellent contemporary letters 
.of an eye-witness of the discovery, Mrs. Bolton 
.(Miss Agnes Holland). 

Inter Lilia. By A. B. Ramsay. (Cambridge 

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WE think Mr. Ramsay would be well content if 

Y he could perceive in what mood his present 

reviewer turns from the perusal of these verses to 

say something about them. Says he^with an 

amusing frankness in his preface : ' ' Hos versi- 

culos. . . .nunc propter horum temporum tenuita- 

fcem palam edendos ea spe inductus curavi 

nonnullos Etonenses, si non evolvant, at tamen 

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But if piety may be expected to induce an old 

Etonian to buy this book, and some casual 

'impulse in a moment of leisure bring him first 

'' to open it, the charm of the verses may be trusted 

'to arrest him forthwith and compel him to read 

-them and return to them. 

Most of them are in Latin, a few Greek 
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added at the end. These last, several of which are 
very good, show plainly- we may say, refreshingly 
the effect of familiarity with classical models, 

and of ease in the manipulation of Latin. They 
show it by their firmness, their moderation in the 

Tise of visual images, and the close correspondence 
between thought and words ; as well as by a certain 
witty ring in their music, which (it is perhaps 
"hazardous to say it) is hardly to be attained by a 
writer of verse who has not steeped his mind in 
Latin poetry. 

The Latin verses are chiefly on school subjects : 
the best and wittiest of these taking the boy's 
point of view. ' Rursus ab integro,' ' Poeta 
nascitur,' ' The Good Boy,' ' A Letter Home,' 
' Sixth Form,' ' Nil Desperandum,' and ' The 
" Captain's Room ' are some of those we have most 

" Aera, ' redi.' sonaere, ' redi, Rirardule, consul ' " 
1 for " Turn again, Whittington, Lord Mayor 
of London " a line in ' Nil Derfperandum ' 
is perhaps the happiest of several renderings of 
.nursery rimes. ' The Old Woman who Lived in 
a Shoe ' is too much expanded to be witty, and 

-the moral at the end too heavy); and the famous 
Limei'ick of the Lady and the Tiger has hardly 
proved to be worth the time it cost. 

The war naturally has inspired several pieces, 
f .the most original of which is ' Shortage of Paper ' 
the point thereof being : 

I nunc, die puero " Versus describe trecentos," 

nil agis ; in poenam nulla papyrus erit. 
' Sirmio ' and ' Christmas Bells ' are pleasing 
/examples, taken rather at random, of verses on 
-more general subjects. 

For the most part Mr. Ramsay has worked in 
classical metres, but he gives us one or two songs, 
and a pretty set of leonine verses. 

Though reminiscences and adaptations of ancient 
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.not only how the spirit, the turn of mind of Eton 
and the present day, vividly pervades the book, 
but also how good and ready a vehicle for that 
spirit the Latin proves itself ito be. And here we 
-have reached a secondary, but most operative, 
cause of the pleasure we have taken in this little 
volume. Why, with such a vehicle in our possession, 

and when the world is crying out for an international 
language, do we not revive Latin ? It is the com- 
mon possession of Western Europe; its vitality 
is latent, not extinct ; it needs but to be revived 
- a less invidious enterprise than the virtual 
imposing of some one modern language upon 
other nations ; and, being the fount from which 
so great a part of modern speech has taken its 
rise, it offers a wealth of opportunity for the 
development of language, which would be more 
happily exploited if it were not left merely to the 
ingeniousness of the learned. A dead language is 
of no use be it granted : but Latin is not in any 
sense dead, and Mr. Ramsay's lively book will, 
we trust, carry a fresh proof 'of its vitality home 
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CONTENTS. No. 105. 

JNOTES- \ Warwickshire Will, 121 Massinger and 'The 
Laws of Candy.' 122 London Coffee-houses. Taverns and 
Inns in the Eighteenth Century, 125-Lamartine at 
Bergues Russell Family Custom as Part of Rnt 
Sabbatical River Sand, 123'' Made in Germany," 129. 

^QUERIES : Marvell : ' Little T. C. in a Prospect of Flowers' 
Unannotated Marriages at Westminster Arms of 
Englishmen registered in France. 129 Count E at Bath 
Yaleand Hobbs Marius D'Affigny Bradshaw Lance- 
lot Blackburne, Archbishop of York" His Excellency " 
Coddington Family, Cheshire P^trograd: Monument of 
^Peterthe Great Eiiglandand Scotland : the Border Line 
Legal Bibliography, 130 Pharmaceutical Book-Plates 
"William Kobert G'ossinith, "the Juvenile Actor" Belt- 
buckle Plat* and Motto Portrait* of Governors of Ceylon 
'The Temple of the Muses' Raymond. 131 Deacon: 
Jenner, 1769 Stobart Family Collingwood, 132. 

IBEPLIFS : Elephant and Castle, 132 Cistercian Order 
Cross-bearer of the University of Cambridge, 133 
Fletcher of Madeley and North Wales" As dead as a 
door-nail "-The Pinner of Wakefleld and Battell Bridge 
Field 134 The Sixth Foot (Warwickshire Regiment) 135 
'Anne of Geierstein 'Slates and Slate- Pencils, 136- 
Elizabethan Gusses Collingwood and Lawson 
"Cellarius" Hampshire Church Bells and their 
Founders, 137 Rev. Henry Coddineton Pagination 
Persistent Krror Lieut. -General Sharpe, 138 Aaron 
Baker MauleSwartvagher General James Oglethorpe 

TJOTES ON BOOKS : - ' Coleridge, Biographia Literaria ; 
Wordsworth, Prefaces and Essays on Pot-try ' ' Papers 
on the Roumanian People and Literature ' ' Durham 
University Journal." 

.Notices to Correspondents. 


'THIS will is mentioned by Dugdale ('War- 
wickshire,' p. 683), who gives a few items. 

'The MS. from which this copy was made is in 
the possession of Mr. Ronald Holbech of 
Farnborough Hall, Banbury, Lord of the 
Manor of Fenny Compton, part of the lands 

(inherited by Margery, daughter of Beaufitz. 
Another Farnborough deed shows that in 
1530, Margery, then widow of Robert 
Bellyngham, granted the manor to Ric. 
Wyllys, gent., and Joan his wife. Some of 
the Willis family emigrated to America in 

'the seventeenth century (Rib ton-Turner, 
' Shakespeare's Land,' p. 293). The Prior 
of St. John's leased to Beaufitz the lands of 

'the Hospitallers at Fletchamstead by the 
" indenture of St. John's " mentioned in the 
will ; he also farmed their preceptory or 
commandery of Temple Balsall. After 
Beaufitz' s death Bellingham seems to have 
taken over his father-in-law's lease ; at all 

events there was difficulty in ejecting- him 

when the Grand Prior of the order wished to 
install Robert Turockmorton, another tenant, 
and a writ was served on Bellingham in 
Erdington Church ( ' Victoria County Hist. 
Warw.,' ii. 101). Ralph, Lord Boitiler of 
Sudeley (Dugdale, 37), mentioned in the 
will, was standard-bearer of Henry VT. and 
Lord Treasurer of England ; his wife was 
Alice Deincourt (ib., 669). 

In the name of Almyghty Jhesu Amen. The 
yere of cure lord M'CCCCLXXXVIIJ. I. John 
Beaufltz, being in hoole and parfite mynde. make 
my testament in maner and fourme following : 
Furst, I bequeth my sowle to Almyghty god, my 
maker, and to the glorious virgin, our lady saint 
Mary, and to all the saintys of heuyn, my bodye 
to be buryed in the Abbey churche of Kenelworth 
before the ymage of our blessed Lady in the going 
in of the queere doore by thadvice of John 
Yerdeley, Abbot there, orels where it shalbe 
thought by the said Abbot moost conuenient to 
be doon. Item, I haue delyuered to the said 
Abbot and Couent a basen with a Ewer of siluer 
to serue at the high awter by thaduyce of the said 
Abbot and Couent, and he all his Ivfe to pray for 
my sowle dayly in his masse, specially by name, 
and then he that saith dayly the Chapto?ir masse 
to pray for the sowles of Ser Rauf Butteler. lorde 
Sudeley, my lady Alys, his wif, and form a 
specially by name as long as it shall please the 
said Abbot and Couent. And in like wise he that 
shall sing our Lady masse. 

Item, the said Abbot shall haue a gylte pese 
to the valewe of x marc' or nye by the day after 
my discease to' pray for me specially by name 
dayly in his masse during his life. And he and his 
brethren to assoyle me in thaire chaptowr howse. 

Item, the sayde Couent shall haue X marc 
delyuered egally among the chanons prestes the 
day of my discease. And they to pray for my 
sowle specially by name and to assoyle me in 
thaire chaptour howse, wherof Ser Thomas 
Stretche shall haue xxs. and eche of the noves 
iis. iiid. 

Item, the said Abbot and Conuent shall haue a 
basen and a Ewre of iluer, the borders gilte, to 
thentent that they shall finde a chanoun dayly to 
sing for me during the space of iiij yeres. " And 
he to pray for my said lorde Sudeleys sowle, my 
lady Alys sowle and for my sowle, spec/ally by 
name. And the said chanon to haue euery 
weke xi.irf. of the said basen and Ewre, wherof they 
shall take yerely of the same at the daye of myne 
obite to departe among powre men vjs. vi'ijd. 
And xiijs. iiijd. the same day to be deuyded 
among the Chanons by thaduyce of the said 
Abbot. And they to assoile me in thaire chaptour 

Item, I will that the said Abbot and Conuent 
shall haue my cloth of bawdkyn silke. 

Item, I will that my Lorde of saint Johanes 
haue xxli. in redy money assone as I am dede to 
pardon me of all maner maters. 

Item, the Abbot of Stonley and his Conuent 
shall haue 5 marc', that is to saye, xxs. to the said 
Abbot and the remenaunt to be deuyded among 
the Conuent. And they all to pray for my said 
lorde Sudeley, my lady Alyse sowles and for my 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 B. VL A. 17. ia 

sowle specially by name during a yere dayly in 
thair masse. And all they to assoile me in thair 
Chaptowr howse. 

Item, I will that the iiij orders of frerys in 
Warwykshire, that is to say, white, blak and 
grey and Awsteins, they to haue euerich oon of 
them xls., that is to say to euery ffryer presto ijs. 
And the remenaunt to the comyn vse of thair 
place, and all they, and euerich of them, to pray 
for my lord Sudeley sowle and my lady Alyse 
sowle, his wif, and myne specially by name duly in 
thair masse during a yere. 

Item, I will that Elyn, my wyf, haue Fleacham- 
stede accoi'ding to the indentur of saint Johannes. 
Item, I will that my said wif haue the maner of 
Lodbroke, called Winteners with the appwr- 
tenawnces, according to a dede to her made. 
And also the maner of Wodcote according to 
euydence to hir made and also a pasture in 
Kenelworth, called Blondels, the which is of her 
inheritaunce, and also a place in Couentre lying 
the Hey lane, the which is of her inheritaunce 
in like wise. 

And as towching the remena?mt of my land I 
haue put it in feoffement to perfourne my will, 
except a place in Lodbroke, called Hattis place, 
and a place in Couentre at the Brodegate and a 
tenement in Kenelworth, called Thorpes, the 
which iij places I have geve Margery my daughter 
to bye her kercheffes with. As for the "remena?mt 
of my land after the deth of my wif I haue 
ordeigned to Margery my doughter. 

Item, I will that Elizabeth, Ser Williams 
daughter, haue my place in Bruton to her and to 
fherl heires. And that my feoffees make her 
astate according. 

Item, I woll that she haue x marc' in money and 
xx steres or heyfers of iij yeres age. 

Item, I will Elen, Rauff doughter, haue as 
many steres. And that ther be departyd with 
them stuffe of household resonable and" by my 
wifes discrestion and Rauff Aylesbury. 

Item, I will that Rauff Aylesbury haue mv best 
gowne and Cs, in money. 

Item, I will that William Raves haue my next 
best gowne. 

I woll that Robert Hore haue xxs. 
Item, I woll that Robert Lawrence haue xls. 
and his wif togeder. 

Item, that Margery my doughter and heyre haue 
all my land, my will perfourmed, after my wif is 

Item, I will that Ser Richard Streche, Priour of 
-Kenelllworth], haue xxs. beside his parte of the 
x marc assigned to the Conuent. 
T I *^, n i', the , r emena?mt of my goodes and catalles 
I will they be disposed by the discression of my 
wiff and of RaufJ Aylesbury. 

Item, I will that Robert Billinham haue mv 
best cuppe of siluer, it is better than x marc'". 
And the Ixxh of money which I owe him. 

It ^ m ,\ l in thafc m y ] orde of saint Johanes haue 
my lit ill gilte cuppe to drinke swete wyne in. 

[Proved at Lambeth by Archb. John of 
Canterbury, Oct. 3, 1489, and administration 
granted to Elene, widow and executrix, and 
Robert Byllyngham, gent.] 



(See ante, p. 101.) 

IMMEDIATELY Cassilanes has finished, Gon- 
zalo interposes with the comment : 

. , I have heard, 

Ana with no little wonder, such high deeds 
Of chivalry discours'd, that I confess, 
I do not think the worthies while they liv'd 
All nine, deserved as much applause, or memorv 
As this one. 

so in 'The Picture,' II. ii., the "wild 
courtier" Ubaldo, seeking to outdo his 
fellows in extravagant praise of Ferdinand, 
acclaims him as : 

One that with justice may 
Increase the number of the worthies. 
In like manner Bawdber in 'Thierry and/ 

Theodoret,' II. iv., observes to Protaldy : 

.... they'll give you out 
One of the nine worthies. 
Again in Act IV., sc. ii., of 'The City 
Madam, Luke Frugal is greeted, on his 
sudden access to prosperity, with a chorus of 
sycophantic speeches. Goldwire, the ap- 
prentice, bids him show himself " a second 
Antony" in his bounty, while Ding'em 
tersely exclaims : 

All the nine worthies ! 

It is now the turn of Antinous to be heard 
He prefaces his remarks with the request 
that the soldiers may be permitted to stand 3 
beside their general : 

Antinous. Princely fathers, 

Ere I begin, one suit I have to make 
Tis just and honourable. 
Porphycio, Possenne (Senators). Speak, and 

.Qfl-VG lt 

Antinous. That you would please the soldiers 

might all stand 
Together by their general. 

It is a peculiarity of Massinger's peti- 
tioners that they never prefer a request 
without previously formally announcing their- 
mtention of so doing. Note further the 
arrangement of the speeches in this passage 
First we have the petitioner's announcement," 
then the consent of the parties addressed to 
the making of the petition (framed in words 
to the effect that the petition is sure to be 
granted, or is granted in advance), and 
finally the request itself, introduced by the 

words " That you would please " Com- 

? r i? iovan ' s Petitioning of Fio'rinda in 

The Great Duke of Florence,' II. i. : 

Giovanni. I am a suitor to you 

Fiorinda. You will ask, 
I do presume, what I may grant, and then 
It must not be denied. 

12 8. VI. Anm. 17, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Giovanni. That you would please 
To take occasion to move the duke, &c. 

Again, in Act III., sc. i., of the same play, 
Fiorinda begs a favour of the Duke of 
Florence :- - w - th your highness > pardon, 

I am a suitor to you. 

Duke. Name it, madam. 
With confidence to obtain it. 

Fiorinda. That you would please 
To lay a strict command on Charamonte, &c. 
But it is in ' Henry VIII.' in the scene 
where Queen Katharine petitions the King 
on behalf of his over-taxed subjects that 
we find the most significant resemblance : 

Q. Kath'trhic. Nay, we must longer kneel. I 
am a suitor. 

Kinp Repeat your will and lake n. 

Q. Kath. Thank your majesty: 
That ?/" i-o"ld love yourself, and in that love 
Not nnconsider'd leave your honour, &c. 

I pass over several other suggestions of 
Massinger in this scene, and come to Act II. 
At the beginning of the act we find Gaspero 
expatiating on the beauty and accomplish- 
ments of Erota. At line 23 he observes : 

Her beauty is superlative, she knows it. 
Similarly when, in the first scene of ' The 
Duke of Milan,' Stephano says of Marcelia : 

She's indeed 
A lady of most exquisite form. 

Tiberio remarks : 

She knows it. 

and again, in ' The Custom of the Country,' 
II. i. (Massinger), Manuel says of Duarte : 

'tis most true 

That he's an excellent scholar, and he knows it. 
Gaspero concludes his encomium of the 
princess thus : 

whate'er her heart thinks, she utters : 
And so boldly, so readily, as you would judge 
It penn'd and studied. 

" Penn'd " and ' ; studied " are both charac- 
teristic words of Massinger's vocabulary, 
and several times in his acknowledged works 
he uses them, as here, in close association, 

e '9" ....ere I can 
Speak a penn'd speech I have bought and studied 

for her. ' The Bondman,' II. m. 

Some curate hath penn'd this invective, mongrel, 
And you have studied it. 

' New Way to pay Old Debts, I. i. 

In the latter part of the act, from Erota' s 
entry onwards, there is scarcely a hint of 
Massinger and much of it cannot possibly be 
his. The first two scenes of Act III. are not 
his either, but the third bears obvious signs 
of his workmanship, e.g., in the second 
speech of Philander : 
O, Madam, pour not (too fast) joys on me. 
But sprinkle 'em so gently I may stand em. 

Compare ' The Bashful Lover,' III. iii. : 

Oh, I am overwhelm'd 

With an excess of joy ! Be not too prodigal, 
Divinest lady, of your grace and bounties, 
At once ; if 'you are pleased, I shall enjoy them,- 
Not taste them, and expire. 
and ' The Bondman,' IV. iii. : 

Stay, best lady, 

And let me by degrees ascend the height 
Of human happiness ! all at once deliver'd, 
The torrent of my joys will overwhelm me. 
A few lines later we find : - 

Erota. Nay, but hear me ! 

Philander. More attentively than to an Oracle. 

which again suggests Massinger. Cf. in 
'The Great Duke of Florence' (end of 

All you speak, sir, 
I hear as oracles. 
' The Prophetess ' (end of IV. ii.) : 

Delphia use those blessings that the gods 

pour on you 
With moderation. 

Diodes. As their Oracle 
I hear you, and obey you. 

Act IV., sc. i., is at least partly Massinger's. 
Antinous in his first speech addresses 
Hyparcha as :- your gelf 

Who are all excellence. 

and it will be observed that in the next scene 
Ferdinand says to Annophel : 

Thou art all virtue. 

Similar expressions occur frequently in,' 
Massinger's acknowledged works, e.g. : 
She is all excellence, as you are all baseness. 
' The Roman Actor,' IV. i. 

you are all beauty, 
Goodness, and virtue. 

' The Maid of Honour,' V. ii. 

you, that are all mercy. 

' New Way to pay Old ]Debts,' iV. iii. 

On the entry of Decius, Antinous exclaims : 
O welcome, friend ; if I apprehend not 
Too much of joy, there's comfort in thy looks, 
and in ' A New Way to pay Old Debts ' 
(V. i.) Overreach greets Parson Willdo's : 
entrance with : 

Welcome, most welcome ! 
There's comfort in thy looks. 

These phrases are not of a very distinctive 
kind, but they at least raise some presump- 
tion in Massinger's favour, and this is con- 
firmed by another passage at the end of the 
scene where Gonzalo says of Cassilanes : 

I build upon his ruins already. 
Compare : shall he build 

Upon my ruins ? 

' The Picture,' III. i. 

.... but once resolve 
To build upon her ruins. 

' The Emperor of the East,' IV. i. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL IT, 1020. 

Massinger uses the same figure again in 
' The Elder Brother,' V. i. : 

But if you think to build upon my ruins, 
You'll find a false foundation. 
The short second scene of this act is 

certainly by Massinger. I have already 
noted Ferdinand's " Thou art all virtue " as 

characteristic of him, and there is an un- 
mistakable sign of his hand in the opening 

'lines of the final speech of Cassilanes : - 

The senate, and the body of this kingdom 
Are herein (let me speak it without arrogance) 
Beholding to her. 

I have passed unnoticed a speech of 
Antinous in Act I., sc. ii., beginning with the 
words : 

Thus (my lords) to witness 

How far I am from arrogance, <fcc. 

" but both may without hesitation be assigned 
to Massinger. Compare : 

I will not say 

(For it would smell of arrogance, to insinuate 
The service I have done you) with what zeal, <fec. 
' The Roman Actor,' I. ii. 

. . . .nor let it relish 
Of arrogance, to say my father's care, 
With curiousness and cost, did train me up, &c. 

' The Parliament of Love,' V. i. 
Let it not taste of arrogance that I say it. 
' The Fair Maid of the Inn ' (At. and Webster), I. ii. 
So far our author is from arrogance 
That he craves pardon for his ignorance, &c. 
' Believe as You List,' Prologue. 

Not only does the style of the last act 
savour strongly of Massinger, but we find 
many of his characteristic touches in its 
language. It is in these words that Antinous 
. appeals to Erota not to press her claim 
against his father, who is about to denounce 
him for ingratitude : 
You speak too tenderly ; and too much like 

To mean a cruelty. 

To say of a person that he or she speaks 
" like himself " or " like herself " is to us a 
very ordinary form of expression. But I 
cannot find that it was so in Massinger' s day, 
excepting in his plays where we constantly 
find this and kindred expressions, such as 
" look like yourself," " appear like yourself," 
" suffer like yourself," &c. For " speak like 
yourself " compare : 

till now, I never heard you 
Speak like yourself. 

' The Emperor of the East,' II. i. 
'Tis spoken like yourself. 

' The Roman Actor,' I. i. 

- and it occurs again in ' Henry VIII.' 
(II. iv. 84-5), where Wolsey says to Queen 
Katharine :- j do profesg 

You speak not like yourself. 

Xext we have one of Massinger' s favourite 
allusions to " oracles " in the opening lines 
of Cassilanes' address to the Senate : 

Are you this kingdom's oracles, yet can be 
So ignorant ? 

Such allusions are not, of course, peculiar 
to this dramatist, but they are at least 
characteristic of him. For a similar passage 
to the above, compare, in ' Believe as You 
List,' II. ii. : 

And will you fsc. the Carthaginian senate], 
Who, for your wisdom, are esteemed the sages 
And oracles of Afric, meddle in 
The affairs of this affronter ? 

again, in III. iii. of the same play : 

here's a man, 
The oracle of your kingdom, that can tell you .... 

and, in Massinger's part of ' The Elder 
Brother ' (V. i.) : 

. . . .does the court, that should be the example 
And oracle of our kingdom, read to us 
Xo other doctrine ? 

Cassilanes enlarges upon his son's in- 
debtedness to him for his martial spirit and 
training just in the same way as the elder 
Malefort when he confronts his son in ' The 
Unnatural Combat.' If the reader will turn 
to Act II., sc. i., of the latter play and 
compare the bitter reproachful speech of 
Malefort just before the " unnatural combat " 
with this speech of Cassilanes, it will be 
strange indeed if the comparison does not 
convince him that they are from the same 
hand. When he has heard his father out, 
Antinous at once admits the charge of 
ingratitude : 

'Tis all true. 
Nor hath my much wrong'd father limn'd my 


In colours half so black, as in themselves, 
My guilt hath dy'd them : were there mercy lefb 
Yet mine own shame would be my executioner : 

Here once more we find a parallel in 
' Henry VIII.' The confession of Antinous 
is strongly reminiscent of Buckingham's 
confession of his guilt in the first scene of 
that play, which I believe to be Massinger's: 

It will help me nothing 

To plead mine innocence ; for that dye is on ma 
Which makes my whitest part black. 

When Cassilanes greets his son's admission 
of his guilt with the observation : 

A burthen'd conscience 
Will never need a hangman. 

he speaks with the voice of Cleremond in the 
trial scene of ' The Parliament of Love ' 
(V. i.) : 

Should I rise up to plead my innocence 
Though, with the favour of the court, I stood 
Acquitted to the world .... 



.... yet here 

A not to be corrupted judge, my conscience 
Would not alone condemn me, but inflict 
Such lingering tortures on me, as the hangman 
Though witty in his malice, could not equal, 

Cassilanes urges the Senate to enforce the 
death penalty in accordance with the law. 
But the proceedings are now interrupted by 
the Princess Erota, who in turn accuses 
Cassilanes of ingratitude to herself, and 
claims a like judgment upon him, whereupon 
Antinous exclaims : 

Cunning and cruel lady, runs the stream 
Of your affections this way ? 

Compare r 

Such, indeed, I grant, 
The stream of his affection was, and ran 
A constant course. 

' The Duke of Milan,' V. i. 

and the following passage from the first scene 
(Massinger's) of ' The Bloody Brother ' : 

The stream of my affection had run constant 
In one fair current. 

No sooner has Erota denounced Cassilanes 
but a like charge is made against her by 
Antinous, and she too is compelled to plead 
guilty, whereupon Cassilanes calls upon the 
senators to pronounce sentence without 
further delay : 

Why sit you like dumb statues ? 
Demur no longer. 

This " statue " simile is a favourite of 
Massinger's, appearing over and over again 
in his plays. The senators to whom this 
remark is addressed are seated on the bench 
of justice, and consequently we do not get 
" stand like a statue," as in ' The Virgin- 
Martyr,' III. ii. : 

Stand you now like a statue ? 

and in Massinger's part of ' Thierry and! 
Theodoret ' (I. i.) : 

Now you stand still like statues, 
but, though nowhere else in Massinger's 
acknowledged works do we find " sit like a . 
statue," we have it in effect in ' Henry VIII., 7 
I. ii. : 

If we shall stand still, . . r 

We should take root here where we sit, or sit 
State-statues only. 

Finally, at the end of the play Erota rejects 
Antinous : 

I here disclaim the interest thou hadst once 
In my too passionate thoughts, 
much in the same words as those in which - 
Lorenzo renounces Matilda at the end of 
' The Bashful Lover ' : 

Here, to the world 
I freely do profess that I disclaim 
All interest in you. 

and Aurelia, Bertoldo at the end of ' The 
Maid of Honour ' : 

for here I do disclaim 
All interest in you. 

Summarizing the results of this examina- 
tion of ' The Laws of Candy,' there are only 
two scenes the first two scenes of Act III. 
in which I do not find definite traces of 
Massinger. I feel little hesitation in assign- 
ing Act I., Act IV., sc. ii., and Act V. wholly 
to him, but the remainder (Act II., Act III.,,, 
sc. iii. : and Act IV., sc. i.) seems only partly 
his. Further I believe that only one other 
hand was engaged in the composition of thia- 
play, and that this hand was neither Beau- 
mont's nor Fletcher's. 



Old Blue Boar 
Old Christian's 

Old Golden Cross.. 
Old Jerusalem 


Old King's Head Inn 
Old Man's . , 

Old Red Lion 
Old Slaughter's 

(See ante. pp. 29, 59, 84, 105.) 

Tyburn Boad 

St. John's Street, near 

Smith field Barrs 
See Golden Cross. 
By St. John's Square, 

Scotland Yard, Charing 

Cross. " Almost opposite 

to the Admiralty " 

West Street, Fleet Street 
See Slaughter's. 

1752 ' The History of Pompey the Little.* 
1728 Middlesex County Records Sessions Books*- 

850-877. w 


1762 Gomme's G.M.L., pt. xvi., p. 171.] - -^j 

fr '-J 

1786 ' Tunbridge Wells Guide,' 1786. _> 
1709 London Spy, pt. ix., p. 201. 
1711 Addison's "Spectator, no. 403. 
1722 Defoe's ' Journey through England,' i. T 168v- 
1728 Daily Post, May 15 ; Besant, p. 310 r- 
Sydney's ' XVIII. Century,' i. 186 ~ r 
Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 223 : Cunningham 
p. 309 ; MacMichael's ' Charing ^ 
p. 55. 
Thornbury, ii. 421. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 17. 

'Old Swan .. 

-Old Vine . . 
-Old White Horse . . 
-Old White Bear . . 

Oxford Arms Inn.. 


' Paradise 
Paul Pindar's 

Peacock Tavern 

Pewter Platter Inn 

Phoenix Inn 


Pine Apple Tavern 

.Pied Bull Inn 

Pinder of Wakefield 

Pitt's Head 
iPontack's Head 

Pope's Head 


Prince of Orange . . 
Prince of Wales . . 
Prince of Wales . . 
Queen's Arms 

Queen's Arms Tavern 
Queen's Head Tavern 

Queen's Head 
-Queen's Head 
Queen's Head and 



Thames Street 

Charing Cross 
51 Whitcomb Street 
See White Bear. 
Haymarket . . 

Warwick Lane 

" Just bv St. James's " . . 

Paradise Row, Chelsea . . 
St. James's Street 
Bishopsgate Without 

Charing Cross 
Corner of Fetter Lane and 
Fleet Street 

Birchin Lane (east side) . . 

St. John's Street, Clerken- 


Old Palace Yard 

Covent Garden 

New Street, Charing Cross 

Behind Frederick Street, 

Gray's Inn Eoad (west side) 

Stanhope Street, Mayfair . . 
New Street, Covent Garden 
Abchurch Lane 

Pope's Head Alley, joining 
Cornhill to Lombard 

St. Mar tin's Lane.. 

Sackville Street 

See Orange. 

Conduit Street 

St. Alban's Street, Pall Mall 

St. Paul's Churchyard 

Bow-in-Hand Court, be- 
tween 77 and 78 Cheapside 

Queen's Head Street, Isling- 

Paternoster Bow 

Fenchurch Street (no. 53) . . 

Maryleboiie Park (opposite 
Portland Road) 

King Street, Covent Garden 

No. 15 Fleet Street, near 
Temple Gate 

Besant, p. 332 ; Blunt's ' Paradise Row,' 

1906, p. 172. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 67. 
1794 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 299. 

1751 Morley's ' Baretti,' p. 73. 

1766 Morley's ' Baretti,' p. 180. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 53. 

1737 Fielding's ' Historical Register,' title-page ; 

Hare, i. 159. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P.. p. 50. 

1712 Swift's ' Journal,' Mar. 27 ; Besant, p. 308. 
1722 Defoe's ' Journey through England ' ; 

Cunningham, p. 254. 

Blunt's ' Paradise Row,' 1906, p. 7. 

Sydney's ' XVIIIth. Century.' i. 205. 
1787 Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 51 ; Thornbury, ii. 151 ; 

Hare, i. 299. 

1756 MacMichael's 'Charing Cross,' p. 41. 
1722 Daily Courant, Feb. 13 ; Cunningham 

p. 389. 

1755 J.R.S.A., 1911, lix. 771. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 47. 
1748 Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q.,' 

Dec. 9, 1016. p. 461. 
1726 L. Stephen's ' Pope,' p. 138. 
1767 Larwood, p. 396. 

Sala's 'Hogarth,' 1866 p, 128. 

1730 Middlesex County Records Sessions Books 

1771 Hickey, i. 274 ; Roach's L.P.P., p. 53. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 136 ; 

Larwood, p. 244. 

Thornbury, ii. 260. 

Wheatley's ' London,' Hi. 97. 

1792 Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 151. 

MacMichael's ' Charing C.-oss.' p. 316. 

1711 Swift's ' Journal," Aug. 16. 

1740 ' Autob. and Corr. Mrs. Delany,' 1st series, 
ii. 82. 

1742 Wale's ' My Grandfather's Pocket-book,' 
p. 91 ; Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' 
p. 272 ; XVheatley's ' London,' iii. 102. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 51 ; Larwood, p. 314. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 173. 

Sydney's ' XVIIIth. Century,' i. 205. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 48. 
1752 General Advertiser, Jan. 1. 
1781 Hickey, ii. 294, 315. 

1781 Birkbeck Hill, iv. 87 ; Wheatley's ' London.' 
iii. 141 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 62 ; Thorn- 
bury, i. 267. 

Wheatley's ' London,' iii. 140. 

Hare, i. 216 ; Thornbury, ii. 253, 260. 

Larwood, p. 130. 

Hare, i. 340. 

Warwick Wroth, p. Ill ; Thornbury, 

v. 255, 258. 

1775 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 32o.| 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 53. 

1710 Addison's Taller, no. 224. 

1711 Addison's Spectator, no. 16. 

1736 Price's ' Marysold,' pp. 72, 113: Hard- 
castle, i. 109 ; \\ heatley's ' London,' 
iii. 146. 

12 B. VL A, IT. 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 



Rathbone Place 


'Red Cross Tavern. . 
.Red Lion Ian 
Red Lion Ian 

'Red Lion and Punch- 
bowl Tavern 
Sthenish Wine House 

.Rising Sun 


.Robin Hood Tavern 


Cornhill, three doors west 
of Tom's 

Rathbone Place 

Henrietta Street, Covent 
Garden (on site of present 
Peter's Hospital) 

Barbican (at no. 32) 

Brownlow Street, Drury 

Near Warwick Street and 

St. James's Park 
St. John's Street, Clerken- 


Fleet Street 
Channel Row, Westminster 

Islington Road 
Exchange Alley 
Butcher Row, Strand 
Charing Cross 

^Rochfowi'is Chocolate Charing Cross 

.Roebuck Tavern 

Roll's Tavern 
Rose Tavern 

.Rose Ian 


Bow Street, Covent Garden 1730 

Chancery Lane 

Chancery Lane (west side) 

West Smithfleld ( north side ) 

At corner of Russell Street 
and Brydger Street, ad- 
joining Drury Lane 

Corner of Thanet Place, 
without Temple Bar 

3Rose of Normandy East side of High Street, 1708 


Royal Hotel 
"Hummer's Tavern. 


Marylebone, opposite old 
Marylebone Church 

Pall Mall 

Two doors from Locket's 
Tavern in Charing Cross 

Over against Bow Lane in 

Hummer and Grapes Westminster 

Charles Street, Berkeley 

St. Albans Street, Pall Mall 

Running Footman . . 
:St. Albans Tavern . . 

*SL Clement's 

1748 Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q.,' 

Dec. 9, 1916, p. 461. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 54. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 48. 

1754 J.R.S.A., 1910, Iviii. 384 ; MacMichael'a 
' Charing Cross,' p. 147 ; Shelley's 
' Inns,' p. 207 ; D.N.B., art. Richard 
Mead, M.D. ; Wheatley's ' London,' 
iii. 152. 

Harben's ' Dictionary of London,' 1918, 

p. 500. 
1752 Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 217. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 295. 
Lai-wood, p. 388. 

1719 Larwood, p. 435. 

1740 Dobson's ' Matthew Prior,' p. 211 ; Mac- 
Michael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 132 ; 
Wheatley's ' London,' iii. 161. 

1726 Mist's ' Journal.' 9 February. 

1710 Swift's ' Journal,' Sept. 20. 

1751 ' History of Robin Hood Society,' 1764. 

1727 Johnson's ' Life of Savage ' ; MacMichael'a 

' Charing Cross,' p. 14. 
1725 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' pp. 67, 147. 

Middlesex County Records Sessions Books, 

1766 Hickey, i. 58. 

1732 Rand's ' Berkeley and Percival,' 1914, 
p. 280 ; Harben's ' Dictionary of London,' 
1918, p. 511. 
Harben's ' Dictionary of London,' 1918, 

p. 511. 

1707 Farquhar's ' Recruiting Officer,' Act V., 
sc. vi. ; Colley Gibber's ' Apology,' 1740, 
2nd ed., p. 246. 

1711 Addison's Spectator, Mar. 2. 
1730 Fielding's ' The Author's Farce.' 
1763 Edward Gibbon, Jan. 19. 

1768 Hickey, i. 109 ; Wheatley's ' London,' 

iii. 170 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 127 ; 

Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' pp. 273, 


1722 Fairchild's ' The City Gardener,' p. 55 
1776 Walpole to Cole, Jan. 26 ; Wheatley's 

' London,' iii. 172. 
Mitton and Besant's ' Hampstead and 

Marylebone, 1902, p. 92 ; Warwick 

Wroth, p. 93. 
1780 Hickey, ii. 276, 284. 

Dobson's ' Matthew Prior,' p. 211 ; Wheat- 

ley's ' Hogarth's London,' pp. 273, 293 ; 
MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 47 ; 
Hogarth's ' Night ' ; Wheatley's ' Lon- 
don,' iii. 190. 
1709 Lai-wood, p. 389. 

Larwood, p. 239 ; MacMichael's ' Charing 

Cross,' p. 50. 

Hare, ii. 88 ; Larwood, p. 360. 

1780 Hickey, ii. 285. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 46; Shelley's 'Inns/ 

p. 143 ; Wheatley's ' London,' i. 12. 
1778 Black's ' Cumberland Letters,' 1912, p. 168 

( To be concludud.') 



NOTES ANL) QUEKIES. [12 s. vi. Arn, 17, 1920. 

de la Tete d'Or, Place de la Republique, 
Bergues, is a white marble tablet, with an 
inscription as follows in gold letters : 

Dans cette maison 

& 1'enseigne de la Tete d'Or 

au soir d'une election malheureuse 

improvisa pour Repliquer aux Attaques 

du Poete Barthelemy 
I'lmmortel Reponse " A Nemesis " 

le juillet 1831 

" Je pris la plume et j'ecrivis tout d'une haleine" 


In 1913 a bust of Lamartine was placed on 
the front of the Hotel de Ville, (close to the 
Tete d'Or Hotel), with a tablet below bearing 
this inscription : 

Alphonse de Lamartine 

Depute de Bergues 


Bergues, being only 9 kilometres from 
Dunkerque, did net escape the German long- 
range guns. A fair amount of damage was 
done in the town, but all the historic 
buildings have escaped unhurt. A house in 
the Rue du Gouvernement (no. 10-12) bears 
this chronogrammatic inscription :- - 



In the rue du College I noted houses dated 
1621, 1639, 1644, and 1692. This was in 
August, 1919. F. H. CHEETHAM. 

RUSSELL FAMILY. Among the Newcastle 
MSS. in the British Museum is a stray 
memorandum relating to a family of Russells 
which may interest some of your readers. 
I am forwarding it as it appears to be un- 
indexed. The paper has been slightly 
trimmed, perhaps in the binding, and I have 
indicated the words thereby mutilated by 
square brackets, thus [ ]. The reference 
to the MS. is B.M. Add. MSS. 33,054, p. 16 : 

" 1. William Russell borne at Chippenham 
upon Tuesday the fifth da[ ] of Aprill 1644 about 
a quarter of an hower after three in the morning. 

" 2. Elizabeth Russell borne at Chippenham 
upon Tuesday the 14th of November 1665 
betwene ye hower of eight & nine at night 
She dyed the +0th of July 1733. 

" 3. Riche Russell borne at London in little 
Queene Streete upon Thursdaf ] the 14th of 
ilebruary 1666 betwne ye hours of 8 & 9 in ye 
mo[ ]. 

" 4. Christian Russell borne at London in 
Drury lane upon Thurs[ ] the 14th of January 
1668/9 betwene ye howre of 7 & 8 at night. 

" John Russell borne at London in beadford 
street in Comof ] garding ye 14th Octbr. 1670 
between ye hower of 9 <fc 10 in ye mornif ]. 

" My Deare Child John Rmsell began his 
voyag[ ] into the East in ye yeare 1693/4 
ileb. 8th." 

The passages printed in italics are correc- 
tions made in a handwriting later than that 
of the original memoranda. In the last 
entry it is not certain whether the date is- 
" ffeb 7th " corrected to " ffeb 8th " or vice 
versa. I incline to the former view. 


41 Thurloe Square, S. Kensington, S.W.7. 

through some old deeds relating to property 
in Breconshire, I recently came across an. 
Indenture of Counterpart of Lease for 
21 years, dated Sept. 29, 1781, of certain- 
lands in the county, leased at a rent of. 
41. a year paid half yearly at Ladyday and 
Michaelmas day, " and also a Couple of fat 
Hens at Christmas yearly in lieu of Custom 
over and above all Taxes, Tallages and other- 
Impositions," &c. By another lease,, 
between the same parties, for the same- 
term, dated " the same day, other lands in. 
the same parish were leased at a rental of 3Z," 
and also a couple of " fat hens at Christmas." 

I do not suppose the custom was strictly 
enforced, but* it would be interesting to 
know of other instances. The above Counter- 
part has at its foot two different seals 
extremely well preserved, the first repre- 
senting the head of an old and bald man. 
with a sharp nose ; and the other the head, 
and bust of a burly coarse-featured man,, 
with prominent eyes, and plenty of hair 
falling over the back of his neck (not a wig. 
or Cavalier's tresses), and some sort of 
grooved buff coat or cuirass over the- 
shoulders. Would the latter represent, 
Oliver Cromwell, though it would seem, 
improbable to find his image in a staid, 
attorney's office ? 

By a " Recovery suffered 30th March,. 
39th George III, Breconshire," wherein a. 
certain party was " Demandant," another 
was " Tenant," and two others 

"Vouchees who vouched over the Common- 
Vouchee of the Court of, Twenty messuages- 
Twenty Barns Twenty Stables Twenty Beasthonses. 
Twenty Gardens Twenty Orchards One Thousand 
acres of Land 'Arable Five Hundred acres ot 
Meadow One Thousand acres of Pasture live 
hundred acres of Wood and Wood Ground and 
One Thousand acres of Furze alid heath and 
Common of Pasture for all manner of Cattle with 
the appurtenances in the Parish ot (iuttr aha)> 
Llanngan in the County of Brecon." 


xi. 508 ; xii. 19, 52,) R. B. (i.e., Robert o 
Richard Burton) were the initials unde 
which Nathaniel Crouch (? 1632-? 1725> 
wrote his ' Memorable Remarks concerning; 

12 s. vi. APRIL IT, 19-20.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


the Jews,' from which (p. 46) Southey 
extracts this passage ( ' Commonplace Book,' 
First Series, p. 101) : 

" As to the Sabbatical River, I heard it from my 
father, saith Menasseh Ben Israel (and fathers do 
not use to impose upon their sons), that there was 
an Arabian at Lisbon in Portugal, who had an 
hour-glass filled with the sand taken out of the 
bottom of this River, which ran all the week till 
the Sabbath, and then ceased ; and that every 
Friday in the evening, this Arabian would walk 
through the streets of that city, and shew this 
glass to the Jews, who counterfeited Christianity, 
saying, Ye Jews, shut up your shops, for now the 
Sabbath comes ! I should not speak of these 
glasses, saith he, but that the authority of my 
father has great power over me, and induces me to 
believe that the miracle is from God." 

The ' Remarks ' were first published in 1685 ; 
but Southey probably quoted from the 
edition of 1786. 


" MADE IN GERMANY." The first occur- 
rence in literature of the phrase " Made in 
Germany " probably occurs in Cowper's 
letter to Samuel Rose, the barrister and 
author, dated June 5, 1789 (Hayley's 
' Life,' vol. iii.) : 

" You must buy for me, if you please, a cuckow 
clock ; and now I will tell you where they are 
sold, which, Londoner as you are, it is possible 
you may not know. They are sold, I am in- 
formed, at more houses than one, in the narrow 
part of Holborn which leads into broad St. Giles. 
It seems they are well-going clocks, and cheap, 
which are the two best recommendations of any 
clock. They are made in Germany, and such 
numbers of them are annually imported, that 
they are become even a considerable article of 


36 Somerleyton Road, Brixton, S.W. 

We must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

OF FLOWERS.' Has any private student 
interested in Andrew Marvell identified the 
subject of one of his best-known poems, 
entitled as above ? Certainly no editor has 
taken the trouble to do so. Marvell' s 
younger years had many associations with 
literary Royalists. This set me guessing 
some time ago, and I pitched upon Theodosia 
Capel as a not unlikely candidate. But this 
little girl grew up to marry into the Hyde 
family, and no portrait of her childhood 
exists at Cornburv Park, or has ever been 

heard of by her descendants. It now occurs 
to me that " little T. C." might just as well 
have been Theophila Carey, one of the seven 
daughters of that charming person, linguist, 
and scholar, Henry Carey, second Earl of 
Monmouth, and of Lady Martha Cranfield 
his wife. Theophila died in Charles I.'s 
reign, and died young. Is there any portrait 
of this child, with a garden background ? 

L. I. G. 

PARIS. On reading through a back number 
of ' N. & Q.' I came across the following 
passage (8 S. i. 313), referring to Thomas 
Drake in France : 

" In 1696, in obedience to an order of Louis XIV. r 
he enregistered his arms at Paris, where they may 
be seen at the Herald's Office." 

As I am quite ignorant of matters per- 
taining to French heraldry, I should be much 
obliged if any correspondent could tell me 
what was this order of Louis which caused 
Thomas Drake to register his arms in Paris. 
Did it refer to him alone ? to all foreigners 
residing in France ? or was it a general order 
to all armigeri in France regardless of their 
nationality ? 

I should also like to know if there is 
procurable a list of the names of all English- 
men who have had their arms registered in 
Paris. NoLA - 


MINSTER. (See ante, p. 65.) The next 
twelve unannotated marriage entries are: 

7. Dec. 9, 1673. Joseph Embry and Barbara 

8. Aug! 30, 1677. Edmund Clark and Ellen 


9. Feb. 10, 1680-1. Robert Fisher and Eliza- 

beth Eyre. 

10. Dec. 15, 1687. Richard Leighton and Mary 


11. Nov. 2, 1690. Joseph Damsell and Joanna 


12. June 23, 1692. Robert Silke and Mary Dowse. 
13 Feb. 2, 1692-3. John Ward and Lucy 

Walker. f .... 

14. Feb. 11, 1696-7. Thomas Crow, of Colhton, 

co. Devon, widower and Elizabeth Gill, 
of St. Margaret's, Westminster, single 
woman. , ... 

15. July 25, 1703. John Paul and Mary Smith, 

both single. 

16. Jan. 27, 1712-3. Mr. William Keylway and 

Patience Aubery, single woman. 

17. Jan. 28, 1714-5. William Edwards and 

Sarah Colbourn. 

18. Nov. , 1721. Thomas Brown, widower, 

and Mary Grumball, widow. 

Ambleside, Letchworth. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. 1 12 APRIL 17, 1920. 

COUNT E AT BATH. In the volume of 
poems by George Monck Berkeley, published 
in 1797, there is reference on p. 116 to " a 
young gentleman since known at Bath by the 
name of Count E., an early friend of young 
Berkeley's at Eton School." 

Can any reader identify Count E. for me ? 
J. M. Berkeley was at Eton from 1775 to 
1777. R. A. A.-L. 

YALE AND HOBBS. I should be glad to 
be informed where Yale picked Hobb s lock. 
The incident occurred during the keen 
rivalry which existed between the big lock 
and safe makers in the early fifties, about 
(I fancy) 1851 or 1852. I have made 
inquiries and searched at museums, &c., in 
vain for particulars. ROBERT EVANS. 

MARIUS D'AFFIGNY. Can any reader give 
particulars of the life of Marius D'Affigny, 
who sometime between the years 1670-90 
published a volume on ' Antiquity ' con- 
taining the following "books": (1) 'The 
History of the Heathen Gods ' ; (2) ' The 
History of the Heathen Demi-Gods ' ; 

(3) ' The Honours paid to Heathen Gods ; 

(4) ' A Treatise of Roman Curiosities ' ; 

(5) ' The Eyptian Hieroglyphics.' 

St. Adrian's, Purley, Surrey. 

BRADSHAW. Robert Smith Bradshaw was 
admitted to Westminster School in 1782, 
and William Smith Bradshaw in 1772. I 
should be glad of any information concerning 
their parentage and careers. 

G. F. R, B. 

YORK. Where and when was he born in 
1658 ? In what London parish did his 
father, Richard Blackburne, reside, and 
what was the name of his mother ? The 
' D.N.B..' v. 123, does not give the required 
information. G. F. R. B. 

"His EXCELLENCY." Will some kindly 
correspondent enlighten me as to the title 
of Excellency in application to British 
subjects ? I believe that with us Ambassa- 
dors bear this title, which is borne by all 
foreign Ministers and Charges d'affaires, but 
denied by our Foreign Office to British 
officials of those ranks. The Colonial Office 
is believed to be more generous in this 
respect, so that all Governors, even he of 
St. Helena, are entitled to it. In India the 
title is restricted to the Viceroy, the 
Governors of Presidencies, and the Com- 
mander-in-Chief. The Commanders-in-Chief 
in Presidencies formerly bore it, and there 

arose the strange anomaly that, although tho 
Lieutenant-Go vernors of huge provinces such 
as the Punjab ranked above the Commander - 
in-Chief in India, they did not bear the title - 
though undoubtedly they had the consolation 
of bigger pay. Abroad the number of 
Excellencies in the hotel-lists is over- 
whelming, the Russians being specially 
liberal with this title. One does not want 
similar profusion in our own services, but 
surely His Majesty's Minister at a foreign 
capital should bear the title with which even 
the Governor of Tobago is believed to be 
invested. J. H. R.-C. 

No MAN'S LAND. In his ' Survey of 
London,' writing of the Charterhouse Stow 
says that " Ralph Stratford, Bishop of 
London, in the year 1348, bought a piece of 
ground called No Man's Land." Is it 
known from whom the bishop bought it. 
and how the vendor made out his title ? 
Is this the earliest use of the name ? 


GREAT. In ' Russia as I Know It,' by Harry 
de Windt, in the account of Petrograd, is a 
description of the monument to Peter the 
Great, whereby it seems that the base of the 
" colossal bronze statue " is an 
" enormous block of granite which, weighing over 
15,000 tons, was dragged from the marsh where it 
was unearthed, five miles away, by primitive 
machinery and 80,000 horses." 

Can any reader tell me where to get further 
information concerning this amazing feat of 
engineering ? WESSEX. 

LINE. Could any reader refer me to 
sources of information regarding the de- 
limitation of the boundary between England 
and Scotland ? What commissions were set 
up to do the work and when ? Did they 
issue reports ? Were the reports presented 
to Parliament ? W. E. WILSON. 


LEGAL BIBLIOGRAPHY. I shall be obliged 
if any of your readers can recommend the 
best books, modern or otherwise, on the 
following subjects : 

1. Ecclesiastical Courts Prerogative, Con- 
sistory, Commissary, and Archdeaconry 
their procedure from the Reformation ; their 
methods re granting of probates and adminis- 
trations, &c. ; and the trying of cases against 
Ecclesiastical Law and discipline, with 
examples, if possible, in elucidation of the 
old Court Act Books. 

12 s. vi. APRIL 17, i92o.j NOTES AND QUERIES. 


2. Forms and examples, with translations 
-of old historical and legal documents, such 
,s ' Inquisitions Post Mortem,' writs of all 
kinds, wills, testaments, and Probate and 
Administration Acts and sentences, fines, 
deeds, records of the various Courts of Law, 

-examples from the Close, Patent and other 
Rolls, Manor Court Rolls, &c. 

3. Law dictionaries or lexicons giving ex- 
planations of the terms and words used in 
old legal documents and cases, such as 
'" Offi. dni. contra . . . . " Will any one kindly 
give me the meaning of this last term which 
reads : " Office of the Judge against. ..." ? 
I find it in Ecclesiastical Court Act Books. 

Xorthfield House, Henlow, Beds. 

fee greatly obliged by any descriptions that 
:may be forthcoming of book-plates of 
pharmacists, especially English ones. Dr. 
Eugene Olivier, in his brochure on ' Les 
Ex-Libris de Medecins et de Pharrnaciens 
d'Autrefois/ devotes only a single page to 
pharmacists ; he mentions only five or six 
rspecimens (all French), and reproduces only 
two. I have in a search through chemists' 
trade journals and such works as Lord de 
'Tabley's ' Guide,' Mr. W. J. Hardy's ' Book- 
Plates,' and Mr. Egerton Castle's ' English 
Book-Platee,' found only three or four un- 
doubted pharmacists' plates : there are two 
or three specimens of foreign ones, but, I 
think, no English, in the Journal of the Ex- 
Libris Society, nor has a somewhat cursory 
-search in the British Museum Print Room 
yielded much result. M. Olivier says the 
.more modest pharmaciens use trade-cards for 
book-plates, and I have seen a few specimens 
of these. Doctors' book-plates of a more or 
less pharmaceutical character are fairly 
common, but modern English pharmacists do 
not seem to indulge in this " harmless 
vanity." C. C. B. 

JUVENILE ACTOR." In 1827 there appeared 
at Reading (as a second edition) a 24-page 
pamphlet entited " The Life and theatrical 
excursions of William Robert Grossmith, 
the juvenile actor, not yet 9 years of age." 
He was the eldest son of William Grossmith, 
looking-glass and picture-frame manufac- 
turer, Minster Street, Reading, was born in 
1818 and made his debut, as a Jew and a 
country bumpkin, at the Coburg Theatre in 
April, 1824. The pamphlet is embellished 
with a steel engraving of the " young 
Hoscius," drawn by W. Waite, Abingdon 

He was, I believe, the brother of George 
Grossmith the first (1820-80). When did 
he stop acting ? J. M. BULLOCH. 

37 Bedford Square, W.C.I. 

a brass circular belt-buckle plate. It is 
2i in. in diameter. In the centre are three 
cannons, similar in design to those which 
were borne on the arms of the late Honorable 
Board of Ordnance. They are surrounded 
by a garter, in which is inscribed Auspicio 
Regis et Senatus Anylice. It is possibly 
connected with the Artillery regiments of the 
late East India Company. Is the motto 
known, and in what connexion ? Informa- 
tion is desired. J. H. LESLIE. 

should be glad to hear whether there are 
known to be in existence portraits of the 
following Governors of Ceylon, either oil 
paintings, in public or private possession, 
or engravings in books : 

The Right Hon. Sir Robert Wilmot, Bart., 
G.C.B., Governor 1831-37. 

The Right Hon. James Alexander Stewart 
Mackenzie, Governor, 1837-41. 

Lieut. -General Sir Colin Campbell, K.C.B., 
Governor, 1841-47. PENRY LEWIS. 

Havenhurst, Canford Cliffs, Dorset. 

of your readers kindly tell me the name of the 
author and the date of publication of a book 
with the following title-page ? 

" The Temple of the Muses or the Principal 
Histories of Fabulous Antiquity with explications 
and remarks which discover the true meaning of 
the several Fables with their foundations in 
history. Written principally for the instruction 
of youth." 

The book was published by Thomas 
Astley in London, I believe about the year 
1738. G. JAMES BERRY. 

201 Whitehorse Road, Croydon. 

RAYMOND. --I shall be glad to have any 
information as to the ancestry of Sir Jonathan 
Raymond of the City of London and Barton 
Court, Kintbury, Berks. It is supposed that 
he (who was born in 1630) was of a French 
Huguenot family who lost their property 
and came to England at or after the Revoca- 
tion of the Edict of Nantes. He entered the 
service of Philip Jemmett, a wealthy brewer 
and Alderman of the City of London and 
subsequently (on June 11, 1661) married his 
daughter ; admitted to the Brewers' Com- 
pany April 15, 1662, on the Livery Aug. 7, 
1662 ; knighted at Whitehall Oct. '20; 1679, 
and in the same year Alderman and Sheriff 



of London. He died Mar. 11, 1710, and was ! of Brayton, co. Cumberland, by Sarah, dau_ 

huried at Kintbury, in the church of which 
place there are fine memorial tablets to him 
and his family. H. R. NIAS. 

The Thatched Cottage, Iffley, Oxon. 

DEACON : JENNER, 1769. Miss Mary 
Deacon of Elmstree, Glos, in her will 1769, 
names her cousins Mr. Deacon Jenner of 
London, and Robert Jenner, D.C.L. London, 
now Professor of Civil Law, Oxford, late of 
Doctors Commons, and his son Thomas of 
Merton College, to whom she left Elmstree. 
To this information there is this note, " The 
connexion of Jenner and Deacon though 
unproven is inherently probable." I desire 
to trace the relationship of the above Dr. 
Robert Jenner, to the Rev. Robert Jenner 
of Lydiard Millicent, Wiltshire, 1665-1723. 

On matriculating Trinity College, Oxford, 
Sept. 23, 1730, Dr. Jenner is described as of 
Fetcham, Surrey, son of John Jenner. 



STOBART FAMILY. Can any reader give 
information about the descendants of 
Forester Stobart of Broomley, Northumber- 
land, born 1724, died 1804 ; and about the 
descendants of his brother Henry, whose 
grandson George Stobart lived at one time 
at Eland Hall, Ponteland, Newcastle-on- 
Tyne ? H. C. BARNARD. 

Burnham, Somerset. 

mother ? Pedigree and any details wanted. 
(Mrs.) E. E. COPE. 

COLLINGWOOD. Alexander Collingwood in 
1556 obtained the property of Little Ryle, 
co. Northumberland, from his cousin Sir 
Robert Collingwood of Eslington, and the 
grant was confirmed by the king. He m. 

Foster, according to the Visitation. 
Their son Thomas, who was owner of Little 
Ryle in 1585 and was living 1615, m. first 
Dorothy, dau. of Robert Clavering of 
Callaley by Mary, dau. of Sir Cuthbert 
Collingwood of Eslington ; second, Fortune, 
dau. of Harry Collingwood of Great Ryle. 
His son Alexander (by first wife) was born 
1593 and is described as "of Little Ryle " 
in 1628 and 1638. Alexander's son, also 
called Alexander, was " of Little Ryle " in 

1663, and m. Margaret , who was buried 

Nov. 13, 1684. Who were the wives of the 
three Alexanders of Little Ryle ? Is it 
known when any of these three died ? 
Alexander IV., son of Alexander III. and 

Margaret , built the house of Unthank, 

xn. (1691) Dorothy, dau. of Wilfred Lawson 

of William James of Washington, co. Dur- 
ham, and was High Sheriff of Northumber- 
land 1725. H. PlRIE-GORDON._| 
'20 Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.14. 

(12 S. vi. 11, 49.) 

MR. WALTER WINANS, at the first reference^ 
quotes a newspaper cutting on the subject of 
an illuminated bestiary twice misprinted 
" vestiary " " dated probably about 1240." 
Presumably he refers to a MS. known as the- 
Westminster Bestiary from its being pre- 
served there. It is written in Latin and 
Norman French, and is said to have come 
originally from the Friars Minors of York. 
Whether this is identical with a bestiary of 
the early thirteenth century of which a 
translation in English verse is preserved 
amongst the MSS. in the British Museum. 
(MS. Arundel, No. 292, fol. 4) I am unable to 
say, not having examined it. It is more 
likely to be identical with the Harleian 
MS. 4751, for it contains a figure of an. 
elephant carrying on its back a wooden- 
turret in which are five knights in chair* 
armour, with battle-axes, swords, and cross- 
bows ; and in the Latin description which is 
given of the use of elephants in the East we- 
read : "In eorum dorsis Persi et Indi ligneis- 
turribus collocati tamquam de muro jaculis- 

The Arundel MS. 292, " of the earlier part 
of the thirteenth century," has been printed' 
by Thomas Wright, F.S.A., in the Reliquiae 
Antiquce, 1845 (pp. 208-27). The allegorical 1 
account of the elephant therein given is-- 
entirely devoted to the old fable that an^ 
elephant has only one joint in the leg ; that 
when it falls it is unable to rise ; and that the- 
hunters of old taking advantage of this 
disability would cut a tree half through so 
that when the animal leaned against it, it 
would come to the ground and be at their 
mercy. This is one of the myths of the- 
Middle Ages. There is no allusion of any 
kind to a castle (or howdah as suggested by 
MR. WINANS), the moral to be drawn having 
reference to a period long anterior to the- 
days of trained elephants, namely, to the- 
days of Adam and Eve ! For the allegory- 
concludes with the explanation (sifjnificatio)- 
that a tree was the cause of Adam's fall.. 
" Thus fel Adam thrug a tre." 

12 8. VI. APRIL 17, 1920.1 NOTES AND QUERIES. 


But in an earlier MS. I find what is wanted 
the bestiary of an Anglo-Norman poet, 
Philip de Thaun, written in the first half of 
the twelfth century about 1121. This was 
edited and printed for the Historical Society 
of Science, in 1841, by Thomas Wright, who 
considered the poems of De Thaun " ex- 
tremely valuable to the philologist as being 
the earliest specimens of the Anglo-Norman 
language remaining." In this bestiary we 
find not only a description of the elephant, as 
might be expected, but, happily for our 
present purpose, a direct allusion to the 
" castle." Philip de Thaun quoting an 
earlier writer, Isidorus, descants upon the 
size and appearance of an elephant " with 
teeth all of ivory," his understanding and 
memory ; and by way of indicating his 
immense strength states : " He could carry 
a castle if it were on his back." The exact 
words of the original are : " Un castel 
porterait si sur sun dos estait." Then 
follows the legend of the animal's inability 
to lie down when he sleeps : " 11 ne pot pas 
gesir quant il se volt dormir," because he has 
only one joint in his legs. " Es jambes par 
nature nen ad que une jointure," and so 

But what, it may be asked, is the con- 
nexion between this old legend and the 
familiar public-house sign of the Elephant 
and Castle ? It is perhaps only emblema- 
tical of strength and endurance. But there 
is another possible explanation. Larwood 
and Hotten in their ' History of Signboards ' 
(1866) state : 

" Cutlers in the last (eighteenth) century 
frequently usecl the ' Elephant and Castle ' as 
their sign, on account of it being the crest of the 
Cutlers' Company, who adopted it in reference to 
the ivory used in the trade." 
Further inquiry might perhaps lead to the 
discovery that the tavern at Newington Butts 
was originally built upon land belonging to 
the Cutlers' Company. If so, the adoption 
of their crest as a signboard for the new 
building would be natural enough. But a 
different explanation again has been given 
on the testimony of one who was living at the 
time this tavern was built. John Bagford, 
an esteemed and learned friend of the anti- 
quary Thomas Hearne, in a letter prefixed 
to Leland's ' Collectanea ' (ed. Hearne, 1770), 
states that the name of this tavern was 
bestowed in consequence of the discovery 
in the neighbourhood " some time about 
1714 " of the fossil remains of an elephant, 
and that that incident gave its name to the 
building " soon after erected in that 
locality." j_ K HARTING. 

CISTERCIAN ORDER (12 S. v. 320 ; vi. 45)... 
I could enumerate a good deal of the MS- 
and printed literature relative to this Order,.- 
but it would take up too much space here. 
If, however, MR. HART would state whether 1 
he is wanting references on some special 
aspect of the Order, such as its rule, archi- 
tecture, costume, or its English houses, 
I could refer him to useful works on the- 
specific points upon which he desires sources- 
of information unless it is that he wishes- 
to know of all the general works relating to 
this Order in which case he will find a- 
very good bibliography of the subject in 
Leopold Janauschek's ' Originum Cister- 
ciensium,' Vienna, 1877, at pp. xii-xlvii. 

In addition to the valuable articles by 
Mr. J. T. Fowler, Mr. J. T. Micklethwaite- 
and the late Sir W. H. St. John Hope in. 
The York.'? Arch. Journal, MR. HART should' 
find the following of use : 

W. A. Parker Mason, ' The Beginnings of the 
Cistercian Order,' Royal Hist. Soc., N.8. , vol. six.^ 
pp. 169-207. 

sv'W. de Gray Birch, ' On the Date of Foundation 
ascribed to the Cistercian Abbeys in Great Britain 
(from early MSS.),' Brit. Arch. Assoc. Journal, 
xxvi. 281-299, 352-369. 

A. M. Cooke, ' The Settlement of the Cistercians- 
in England,' English Hist. Review (1893), vol. viii., 
pp. 625-676. 

Angel Manriquc, ' Annales Cistercienses,' 4 vols, 
folio, Lyons, 1642-59. 

Julianus Paris, ' Nomasticon Cisterciense, seu 
Antiquiores Ordinis Cisterciensis Constitutiones,* 
ed. Nova par Hugo Sejalon, Solesmes, 1892. 

E. Twells, ' The Cistercians,' Bristol and Glos. 
Arch. Soc., vol. vi., pp. 80-87 

Edmund Sharpe, ' Architecture of the Cister- 
cians,' London, 1874. 

Ph. Guignard, ' Les Monuments primitifs de la- 
Regie Cistercienne,' Dijon, 1878. 



CAMBRIDGE (12 S. vi. 67). Hugh Latimer 
was chaplain of the University, and amongst 
his duties were the following : cross-keeper 
of the University, librarian, keeper of the 
chapel and the schools, and executor of 
various University trusts. He carried the 
silver cross of the University at the general 
processions, and had the care of the sacred 
vessels, vestments, and service-books. There 
is no such office now ; it seems to have come - 
to an end with the death of John Stokes, 
1568. The cross was sold under Edward VI., 
replaced by a new one by Mary, and that 
disposed of by Elizabeth. ' The Chaplains 
and the Chapel of the University of Cam- 
bridge, 1256-1568,' No. XLL, Cambridge- 
Antiquarian Society, should be consulted. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 17, 1020. 

A most fitting memorial of Cambridge 
men. who gave their lives in the great war 
\vould be for past and present members of 
the University to replace the cross on the 
lines of Mr. Kett's restoration, and present it 
to the University Church. 

Chaplain, B.N. (retired). 
Anglesey Road, Gosport. 

In C. H. Cooper's ' Annals of Cambridge ' 
the University cross is mentioned several 
times. It was carried in procession on 
important occasions, e.g., at the Visitation of 
1557, on Jan. 11 : 

"at vii the Vycechancellor with all the hole 
Universite in habitibus, met in St. Marys. . . .from 
-thence all went to trinitie College and the uni- 
versitie Crosse before them." 

In 1522 a payment of IQd. is made to 

"the Clarke of the Scollys for beryng of the 
Universyte Crosse twys at the Kyngs beyng heyr. 
& in advent <fe att the grett Cessacyon." 

"In 1548 (op. cit., ii. 9) 

"the University sold their great cross of silver, 
-weighing 336 ounces, after the rate of 5s. 6d. per 


On April 4, 1554, Bishop Gardiner, their 

-" wrote to the Masters and Presidents of Colleges, 
stating that he had willed Master Yonge the Vice- 
. chancellor to provide a seemly cross of silver, to 
be used in their processions as had been used 
amongst them in times past." 

This the University did at the cost of 
30/. Os. 8d. Finally on Sept. 26, 1565, 

" a grace was passed for selling the vestments, 

cross, censers, cruet, and other monuments of 
rsuperstition in the University vestry." 

After this, one may presume, there was no 
.further need of an official cross-bearer. 

Much Hadham, Herts. 

'"WALES (12 S. v. 320). According to the 
' D.X.B.' this well-known person was a 
.Swiss by birth (de la Flechere), and came to 
England about 1752. He was ordained 
both deacon and priest in 1757 by the Bishop 
of Bangor, and in 1760 took the living of 
Madeley (Hertfordshire), where he remained 
till his death in 1785. No other ecclesias- 
tical appointment is mentioned. The Bishop 
of Bangor in 1757 was Robert Hay Drum- 
mond (so consecrated in 1748), who in 1761 
was promoted first to Salisbury and then to 
York, and died in 1776. According to 
' D.N.B.' this bishop was originally a Hay, 
.adding the name of Drummond in 1739. 
Possibly he was a Scotsman, and this may 

have attracted Fletcher to him. He was a 
favourite of Queen Caroline, and educated at 
Westminster and Christ Church, Oxford. 

W. A. B. C. 


v. 266, 303). In connexion with the possible 
origin of the expression, the following facts 
might seem worthy of consideration. 

1. At the time, about 1350, noted by your 
correspondent, and before the use of nail- 
less panelled house doors, almost all 
common doors were "battened.'' i.e., con- 
structed of vertical boards nailed against 
cross strips (battens), with wrought iron 

2. As these constructive nails were very 
numerous and very conspicuous it might 
seem doubtful whether the name " door- 
nail " in common speech would have been 
applied, not to these nails, but to the rare 
alleged bossed nails driven under the com- 
paratively infrequent knockers used only 
upon the entrance doors of the better houses. 

3. Other house-nails might work loose, 
and when wrought nails were dear, be pulled 
out and used again, but these nails which 
persisted on the common battened house- 
doors of England and the United States 
through the eighteenth century, and still 
survive on barn-doors, were immovable. 
They were clinched, double-hammered, or 
driven into the wood at both ends, and not 
to be pulled or pried out or easily straightened 
without breaking, therefore not re-usable 
and therefore, it might seem, reasonably 
describable in common parlance as " dead " 

By analogy with the cases cited the 
names "dead latch" and "dead lock" 
refer to things considered dead because 
immovable or useless : also the expression 
" dead man " used by workmen in Penn- 
sylvania in 1908 to describe a log buried 
horizontally as a check to a derrick rope. 
" Dead as a herring;" might be compared 
with " dead as a pelcher " (pilchard) as 
heard by the writer in use by fishermen at 
York Harbour, Maine, U.S.A.", in 1895. 


Bucks Countv Historical Society, 
Doylestown, Pa. 

BRIDGE FIELD (12 S. vi. 65). For Battle 
BridgeField, vide Tomlin's ' Perambulation 
of Islington,' p. 188: "Geoffrey Cliffe died 
Mar. 30, 1570, seised of a closure of pasture 
vulgariter muncipat' Battle Bridge feilde." 
The name is derived from a traditional 
association with the battle between Suetonius 



.and Boadicea. This attribution is not well 
founded, but it persisted^encouraged by 
Oonyers finding here fcr Sir Hans Sloan > the 
remains of an elephant. In the next century 
Stukeley moved the site of the historic 
encounter further east. The name Battle 
Bridge identifies to-day a thoroughfare 
further north. The original district of Battle 
Bridge was improved by speculative builders, 
who in 1821 desiring a change re-named it 
King's Cross. ALECK ABRAHAMS. 

The messuage or tenement was almost 
certainly an inn or tavern. Where exactly 
it was situated we shall learn when MB. DE 

'-CASTRO'S ' List of Coft'ee-houses, Taverns, and 
Inns ' ('ante, pp. 29, 59). which has now 
reached F, reaches P. The celebrity who 

gave the house its sign i? " Geerge-a-Greene 
Hight Pinner of merry Wakefield town," of 

.whom mention occurs CN.E.D.,' s.v.) as 

early as 1592, whose deed^ are celebrated in 
a ballad or chapbook of which the Dictionary 
(s.v. Pinder) gives all the title as : ' The 
Finder of Wakefield : Being the merry 
History of George a Greene the lusty Pinder 

of the North.' Pinder or Pinner is the 
officer of a manor whose duty it is to pin, 
pind, or impound stray beasts. 

Queen's College, Oxford. 

There existed so late as 1 850, but removed 
to the Farringdori Road, a stone bearing the 
; inscription : ~ ~, 

This is Bagnigge 

House neare 

The Finder A 



Bagnigge House, the supposed summer 
residence of Nell Gwynne in her zenith, 
stood on land lying between the present 
Gray's Inn Road and King's Cross Road, 
approximately on the site of Messrs. 
Cubitt's building yards ; the premises became 
'later a renowned place of entertainment as 
Bagnigge Wells. A modern public-house, 
the Pindar of Wakefield, stands on the east 
side of Gray's Inn Road, and is presumably 
somewhere near the point where flourished 
the historic tavern reputed to have been 
much frequented by waggoners on the Great 
Xorth Road. The price whieh MR. SOUTHAM 
shows to have been paid for the premises 
-indicates that it was still a valuable property 
jin 1741. It is p?rhaps somewhat irrelevant 
to remark that a pinclar was a man who took 

charge of strayed cattle in pinfold or pound 
until claimed, on which he held a lien for 
their keep. 

Battle Bridge was the name of the locality 
on which King's.Cross station and adjoining 
streets now stand ; a small bridge arched the 
Fleet river. The change of name took place 
in 1830, the present appellation being derived 
from a hideous statue of George IV. which 
stood at the centre of six roads. It is 
supposed that it was hereabouts that 
Boadicea, Queen of the Iceni, was so severely 
routed by Suetonius Paulinns ; and a later 
Roman occupation has been suggested by a 
find in 1845 of an urn of gold and silver coin 
of the reign of Constantine. 

Battle became the dust and cinder heap 
of London ; the debris and offal mounting in 
course of time to veritable hillocks. The 
cinders were eventually purchased by Russia 
for use in the rebuilding of Moscow. 


1 Essex Court, Temple. 

MENT) (12 S. vi. 64). The following is taken 
from Cannon's ' Historical Records of the 
British Army ' : 

"In 1709 the 6th proceeded to Barcelona, 
where they Landed, and reposed in quarters in 
Catalonia until the following spring. 

" When the army took the field in the summer 
of 1710, the 6th proceeded to the camp at 
Balaguer, where they were reviewed by King 
Charles on June 10.... King Charles moved 
forward, and on July 27 a cavalry action was 
fought on the grounds near Almanara, when 
upwards of forty squadrons of the enemy's best 
cavalry, and a brigade of infantry, were over- 
thrown with great slaughter. .. .The 6th Foot 
hastened to the scene of the conflict ; but the 
enemy were routed before the infantry had an 
opportunity to deploy their ranks. 

" At Saragossa on Aug. 20., 1710. . . .Advancing 
steadily up the rising ground, the 6th, and three 
other battalions under Major-General Wade, 
gained the crest of the enemy's position, and 
while the dragoons fought with deadly fury in the 
vale below, the four regiments raised a British 
shout, and rushing upon a brigade of the enemy's 
foot, broke its ranks with a fearful crash. A few 
battalions made a resolute resistance, but were 
overpowered and nearly annihilated. While the 
6th were* fighting on the high grounds on the left, 
the battle became general along the line ; and 
eventually King Charles gained a most decisive 
victory. .. .The behaviour of the British troops 
was applauded ; they exhibited thirty standards 
and colours which they had captured from the 
enemy as trophies of their valour ; and were 
thanked by King Charles for the eminent service 
they had rendered to his cause. Colonel Thomas 
Harrison of the Sixth was sent to England with 
the news of this victory to Queen Anne. 

" Tradition has connected the badge of the 
Antelope, borne on the colours of the regiment, 
with its services in Spain ; and as the Sixth cap- 
tured several colours at Saragossa. which colours 
were taken to England by their colonel, Thomas 
Harrison, and presented to Queen Anne, it is not 




improbable but that an Antelope was on one of 
the captured colouis, and that Col. Harrison 
obtained Her Majesty's permission for his regi- 
ment to bear the badge of an Antelope in com- 
memoration of the event. No documentary 
evidence has, however, been met with to sub- 
stantiate the tradition. 

" Later in the year, Dec. 7, Lieut. -Col. John 
Ramsay and about three hundred officers and 
nien of the regiment were made prisoners at 
Brihuega, when surrounded in a small village by 
a numerous army, 2,000 brave men were forced 
to surrender themselves prisoners of war, after a 
gallant defence, and consigned to surveillance 
and prison ; but their honour was preserved 


' ANNE OF GEIERSTEIN ' (12 S. vi. 90). In 
his introduction to this novel Scott wrote : 
'' I have to confess on this occasion more 
violations of accuracy in historical details 
than can perhaps be alleged against others of 
my novels. ' ' But it was not only in historical 
details that the author was at fault. 
Einsiecleln always appears as Einsiedlen, and 
Pilatus as Mount Pilatre. The legend of 
Pontius Pilate's suicide as related by 
Antonio, the Italian-speaking lad " from the 
Orison country," is very different from that 
usually recounted, and " the dismal lake 
that occupies the summit " of Pilatus 
existed only in Scott's imagination. The 
site of the pool, now dried up, is on the 
Briindlen Alp, about ten minutes' descent 
below the Widderfeld, which is not the 
highest, but only the third in height, of the 
seven summits of the ridge. So much to 
point out that absolute accuracy is not to be 
found in the novel. 

As for the queries : 

1. In ch. i. Antonio " proceeded to recount 
the vow which was made by the Knight of 
Geierstein to Our Lady of Einsiedlen." So 
when in ch. ii. " Seignor " Philipson says to 
Arthur : " Our Lady and our Lady's Knight 
bless thee, &c.," he would seem to be 
referring to the Knight of Geierstein. 

2. Ischudi is probably a mistake for 
Tschudi. I know nothing of Albert Tschudi 
or his ballads, but the family is a well-known 
one in Canbon Glarus. ^Egidius (Giles) 
Tschudi ( 1505-72) was (according to Murray's 
' Switzerland ') " one of the earliest writers 
on the topography of the Alps and of 
Switzerland, and the father of Swiss history." 

5. Offringen is probably Oftringen, a 
village to the east of Aarburg ; but I know 
nothing of the hermit. The " rich abbey of 
Konigsfeldt," mentioned hy Scott in the 
same chapter is the nunnery of Poor Clares 
at Konigsfelden near Brugg, founded 1310 

by the Empress Elizabeth, and Agnes, Queen 
of Hungary, on the spot where, two years 
before, their husband and father, the 
Emperor Albert, was assassinated (Murray's 
'Switzerland,' ed. 1904, p. 455). Both 
Oftringen and Konigsfelden are in the 
Canton of Aargaw. Murray's ' Switzerland ' 
at p. xcvi identifies Konigsfelden with the 
Roman Vindonissa, but at p. 455 remarks 
that the name of Vindonissa is " preserved 
in the village of Windisch," and quotes 
Gibbon thus : 

" Within the ancient walls of Vindonissa the 
castle of Habsburg, the abbey of Konigst'eld, and 
the town of Bruck have successively arisen." 

6. In Fanfani's ' Vocabolario della Lingua 
Italiana ' I find, as one of the meanings of the 
word bar one : " Titolo che gli antichi davano 
a' Santi." St; Anthony of Padua is probably 
the saint intended. He was born at Lisbon, 
in 1195 and died at Arcella in 1231. 

8. When Charles the Bold is made to 
speak of Margaret of Anjou as his cousin, is 
anything more meant than that he recognizes 
her as a reigning queen '! All sovereigns are 
" cousins." He also is made to speak of 
" brother Blackburn." 

11. Somewhere abroad I have seen a- 
picture called ' Carita Romana,' representing 
a young woman suckling her starving father 
in prison. The story was originally told 
about a mother, not a father, and in this 
earlier form is to be found in Valerius 
Maximus (v. 4) and in Pliny ('Nat.. Hist.,' 
vii. 36). The change is said to have been 
made by Festus. I do not remember where 
I saw the picture ; but I think it was by one 
of the Caracci. 


12. The gate with dreudjul faces thronged and! 

fiery arms 

is the last line but five of ' Paradise Lost,' 
Milton being inspired probably by Virgil's - 

Apparent diice facies, inimicaq'ue Trojae 
Numiria magiia Deiim. 

De Quincey concluded his ' Confessions of an> 
Opium Eater ' with quoting Milton's line. 


Within living memory at Eatington, co.. 
Warwick, the school attached to the 
Nonconformist chapel \ised sloping desks 
filled with sand, to teach scholars the ait of 
writing, the instrument being a pointed stick 
of wood. This would seem a natural susvivab 
of the use of the stylus, and had at o-nee the 
merit of cheapness and cleanliness. Slates,. 

12 S. VI. APRIL 17, 1923.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


;:in the writer's memory, had no frames of 
-wood. Slate pencils can hardly have come 
iinto use until the period of modern lead 
pencils, viz., early in the nineteenth century. 
Leads (not cased in wood) were used as early 
perhaps as the twelfth century. Examples 
have been dredged from river-beds, notably 
the Seine. J. HARVEY BLOOM. 

Chaucer mentions the use of slates for 
writing, and their use (with chalk) for keeping 
-tavern scores is mentioned by later authors. 
{Being away from home I cannot give the 
references.) Their use for school purposes 
was one of the devices invented or adapted 
by Joseph Lancaster in the Borough Road 
about 1803. For the success of his plans it 
was essential that education should be 
-cheapened, and a slate which could serve for 
ever was cheaper than paper which could 
serve only once. As there were few slates 
on the market he set up a factory to supply 
them and the ancillary pencils to his own 
school and the other monitorial schools which 
he established. Thence they spread to all 
elementary and many secondary schools. 
In spite of the serious educational and 
sanitary objections to them they continued 
"in use so long as cheapness was a primary 
consideration. They were generally dis- 
carded in the early years of this century, but 
I believe that they were reintroduced into 
some schools during the war when paper 
became scarce and dear. 


.Sheppard wrote of Drayton as another Ovid 
he had good reason. In the preface to 
' England's Heroical Epistles ' Drayton 
wrote : " Ovid, whose imitator I partly 
profess to be." William Alexander's pre- 
fatory sonnet says : 

That Ovid's soul revives in Drayton now, 
almost Sheppard's words. Francis Meeres 
divides Ovid between Drayton and Shake- 
speare. Sylvester, near the beginning of his 
second ' Divine Week,' appeals to Spenser, 

And our new Naso that so passionates 
Th' heroike sighes of love-sick potentates. 

' Arcadie ' is more difficult to attach to 
Drayton ; ' The Shepherd's Sirena ' is too 
short for mention : but the monstrous 
4 Poly-olbion ' cries for it. The description 
- of England there given might well be called 
Arcadian, with its profusion of nymphs, 
shepherds, and local deities. As to " Bayes," 
poor Drayton was only snubbed by James I. 

and given an annuity of 101. by Charles I. ; 
but in two of his portraits he is decorated 
with a wreath, which may have deceived 
Sheppard. G. G. L. 


Dorothy, wife of Alexander Collingwood 
of Little Ryle, is stated to have been a 
daughter of Wilfred Lawson of Brayton, 
Cumberland. By articles before marriage, 
dated Feb. 4, 1691, her jointure was secured 
on Hedgley in the parish of Eglingham. Of 
the marriage there was issue an only son 
Alexander, baptized Sept. 3, 1701, and also 
five daughters, viz. : Jane, wife of Robert 
Wilkie of Cheswick ; Sarah, wife of George 
Reed of Heathpool ; Elizabeth, wife of 
Benjamin Adams of Acton, all in North- 
umberland ; Dorothy, wife of Andrew Bennet 
of Grubbet, near Jedburgh ; and Isabella, who 
is believed to have died unmarried. The 
date of Mrs. Collingwood's death has not 
been ascertained, but her husband died 
Jan. 3, 1745/6, aged 80. His will is dated 
Oct. 16, 1744. J v C. HODGSON. 

Alnwick Castle. 

" CELLARITJS " (12 S. v. 319). Towards 
1844 waltzing showed signs of abatement, 
says Vuillier in his ' History of Dancing,' 
and the introduction of the polka brought 
about an extraordinary revolution in danc- 
ing. It was introduced into Paris by M. 
Cellarius, the famous dancing master, and 
his school became the sanctuary of this new 
dance, which owed something of its success 
to the gold spurs which were looked upon as 
indispensable for a brilliant polkaist of the 
male gender. For about four years the 
Cellarius Polka reigned supreme, but with 
the coming of the schottische and mazurka 
it commenced to wane. 

[ST. S WITHIN -also thanked for reply.] 

FOUNDERS (12 S. iv. 188, 341; v. 44, 109, 
304). Certain particulars mentioned in 
E. A. Downman's fascinating work on 
' Ancient Church Bells in England ' (issued 
privately by the author in 1898) may throw 
some light on the mystery of the unknown 
founder, " R. B." Richard Baxter, " the 
Brasyer," established a famous foundry at 
Norwich about 1440, and his firm is known 
to have been in existence in the late sixteenth 
century. His bells were initialled R. B. ; 
and I. B. may well have been his direct 
successor, working as late as 1629. 

A very large number of bells cast by 
Richard Baxter still exist, but chiefly 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 17, 1020. 

in Norfolk and Suffolk. Cambridgeshire, 
Derbyshire, and Devonshire have, however, 
one each. There does not appear to be any 
work on the church bells of Hampshire alone : 
but possibly that on ' Wiltshire, &c.,' by 
W. C. Lulds (London, 1857), may deal with 
those of Hants also. 


Diocesan Church House, Liverpool. 

00). In reply to your correspondent C. B. A. 
re the pedigree of the above, I give the 
following genealogical table compiled from 
' The Descent and Alliances of Croslegh ; 
of Scaitcliffe and Coddington of Oldbridge,' 
by Charles Croslegh, D.D. (1904) : 

William Coddington of HolmThomasine Calton. 

Patrick, 1607-59, 
(High Sheriff of co. Dublin 

in 1655.) | 

Nicholas, d. 1685. 

Dixie (1665-1728), 
(High Sheriff of co. Dublin in 1685). 

Nicholas (of Drogheda, d. November, 1737). 

(High Sheriff of co. Louth in 1784), 1728-1816. 

Rev. Latham Coddington,=f=Anne Florentia 
1771-1860. | Bellingham. 

Bev. Henry Coddington,=f=1833 Priscilla Batten, 


dau. of Rev. Joseph 
Hallet Batten, 
D.D., and F.R.S. 

Bev. Henry Hallet 
d. s.v.p. 

John George Ann Florentia 
Thornton Coddington, 
Coddington, b. 1834. 


Emilv Priscilla, 
1843-74, m. Rev. 
Chas. Croslegh, 
D.D., and had 
John Coddington 
and other issue. 

Jane Adelaide Susan 
Georgiana, m. Francis 
b. 1838, m. Edward Cun- 
John Douglas ninngharn, 
Sandford. barrister-at-law, 
who d. 1877. 

339 Victoria Park Road, E.9. 

PAGINATION (12 S. vi. 12). The Folio 
Edition of the Genevan (or Breeches) Bible, 
printed by Christopher Barber in 1583, is an 
example of the pagination described by your 
correspondent, if I understand him rightly 
i.e., only one side of the paper bears the 
number of the page ; or, to put it in another 
way, the numbers refer to the leaves not to 
the pages. 

In all the volumes (Folio) of Matthew 
Pole's ' Synopsis Criticorum,' published at 

Utrecht in cioiocxxciv., printed in two- 
columns, the columns are numbered instead* 
of the pages. 

I am not sufficiently acquainted with old) 
books to be certain whether there is anything, 
unusual in these examples. 


I find the following are paged on the 
right only : - 

' Almanack Perpetnum ' Venice, apud Luca (or 
Lucas) An ton i us, 150.x 
' Missale,' Paris, 1506. 

Paged on right in black letter Roman 
numerals, fo. Ixxviii. (example). 

"The | Tvvoo Bookes of | Francis Bacon I of the 
proficieuce and advance | men^ of Learning divine 
and | humane 1605," 

which is paged only on right, but in the 
most erratic disorder 

" Traiite | des Chiffres | on secretes | Manieres 
| d escrire | Biaise de Vigenere i Paris, 1586." 


PERSISTENT ERROR (12 S. v. 315). In 
my copy of Jeremy Taylor's ' Holy Living; 
and Holy Dying,' dated 1670, it is the same : 
" Quails stuck in their nostrils " (" London 
printed by Roger Norton for Richard 
Royston, Bookseller to His Most Sacred 
Majesty. MDCLXX."). This edition has- 
three engravings ; in one of them are figures 
representing, I imagine, Jeremy Taylor and, 
Lord and Lady Carbery. 


26 Princess Road, South Norwood. 

LIEUT. -GENERAL SHARPE (12 S. v. 321 ,. 
vi. 98). In Burke's ' Landed Gentry,' 1847; 
under the pedigree of Higgins of Skellow (sic),. 
Grange, near Doncaster, Yorks, it is stated 
that Godfrey Higgins, " who enjoyed con- 
siderable literary reputation," and died 
Aug. 9, 1833, left an only son of the same 
name, and an elder and only surviving dau. 
Jane, who m. " Lieut. -General Sharpe of 
Hoddam Castle, Dumfries-shire, M.P. for the 
Dumfries boroughs." Having this clue to 
work on, Foster's ' Scots M.P.s ' carries it a 
little further by describing him as General 
Matthew Sharpe of Hoddam, M.P. for 
Dumfries boroughs in three Parliaments, 
1832 to 1841, and dates his death Feb. 12, 
1845, though he gives Jane as the younger 
daughter. His military commissions were 
as f ollows : Cornet of 1 6th Light Dragoons 
Feb. 18, 1791 ; lieutenant in same Feb. 19,. 
1793 ; senior captain in the newly-raised 
28th (not 26th) Light Dragoons Mar. 25, 
1795 ; senior major thereof Feb. 27, 1796 ; 
senior lieutenant -colonel thereof Aug. 5,. 

12 s. vi. APRIL 17, i92o.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


1799, till disbanded in Ireland. 1802, then 
on its (Irish) half -pay until 1814 ; brevet- 
colonel Oct. 25, 1800 ; major-general Jan. 1, 
1812 ; lieutenant-general May 27, 1825 ; and 
general Nov. 23, 1841. His regiment served 
at the Cape of Good Hope in 1801, but I 
think, did not see any active service. 


AARON BAKER (12 S. vi. 75). A. T. M. 
omits another Aaron Baker, younger son of 
Aaron Baker of Bowhay, Devon, who pre- 
deceased his father and was the father of 
Ann Michell and Mary Cheeke. 

Aaron Baker of Bowhay was the first 
President and Governor of Fort St. George, 
Madras, 1652-1654 (the first British Governor 
in India), and a Director of the East India 
Company ; before this he had been for many 
years President and Governor of Bantam, 
East Indies. He was born 1610 and died 

Mrs. Penny in her ' History of Fort 
St. George ' states that in the caste disputes 
Aaron Baker gave his ruling in the vernacular 
in writing, and the document was preserved 
down to Pitt's time, when it was produced as 
evidence in support of the rights of one of the 

It was on the voyage from Bantam to 
Fort St. George that Governor Baker's first 
wife died (M.I. St. Mary's Church, Fort 
St. George) ; she was a daughter of Ralph 
Cartwright, President and Governor of 

The Governor's elder son, Thomas Baker 
of Oxford, was excluded from his father's 
will. Although Thomas Baker married 
twice it is unknown if he left descendants ; 
he died about 1708. 

Aaron Webb Baker (6), son of Aaron 
Abraham Baker (5), had a younger brother, 
Capt. John Popham Baker, R.N., who left 
descendants now represented by Baker of 
Sparkeswood, Kent. 

Another Aaron Baker, born 1640 and died 
in childhood, was the son of Philip Baker of 
Exeter, but the connexion, if any, with the 
other Aarons is not at present known. 


MAULE (12 S. v. 236, 323). The Rev. John 
Maule, M.A., rector of Horseheath, Cambs, 
from 1776 to 1825, could not be identical 
with the John Maule admitted to Westminster 
School in 1787, as the former was born 
May 5, 1748. 

The rector was son of Henry Maule of 
Huntingdon, and, according to the tablet in 
Horseheath Church, he was a descendant 

of the Panmure family of Scotland. He died' 
at Bath in 1825, aged 77. For additional 
information regarding him see ' All Saints'" 
Church, Horseheath,' by Catherine E^. 
Parsons, 1911. CHAS. HALL CROUCH. 

204 Hermon Hill, South Woodford. 

SWARTVAGHER (12 S. vi.,37). Evidently 
this is the Flemish-Dutch equivalent of" 
German " Schwertfeger " literally sword- 
polisher, but really sword-cutler, blade - 
smith and, generally, armourer. 

L. L. K. 

vi. 13). The ' D.N.B.' gives, with authority., 
the date of his birth as Dec. 22, 1696, and his 
name as James Edward. It is there stated 
that a three-quarter length portrait of him, 
engraved in mezzotint, by T. Burford, is in 
the Print Room at the British Museum, and 
that there is " another, engraved by S. 
Ireland, mentioned by Bromley." In 'The 
Parish and Church of Godalming,' by S. 
Welman, 1900, p. 44, there is a sketch of him 
" copied from an old print showing him as 
sketched by an artist at the sale of Dr. 
Johnson's library in 1785, reading without 
the aid of spectacles at an advanced age." 
He died July 1, 1785, at the age of 88. 

C. A. COOK. 

Sullingstead,, Godalming. 

Coleridge. Biographia Literaria. Chapters I.-IV. r 
XIV.-XXII. Wordsivorth. Prefaces and Essays 
on Poetry, 1800-1815. Edited by George 
Sampson, with an Introductory Essay by Sir 
Arthur Quiller-Couch. (Cambridge, University 
Press, 10s. net.) 

" EVERY abridgment of a good book is a stupid 
abridgment," says Montaigne. Teachers and 
students, however, are spoilt nowadays with 
special collections of the stuff, they require to 
master, and we must admit that much of 
Coleridge's ' Biographia Literaria ' is dead matter 
which most readers skip when they re-read it. 
This abridgment, too, adds to Coleridge's criticism 
of Wordsworth's theories of poetic language, the 
latter's own statements on his side. It also 
preserves those passages of the ' Biographia ' in 
which Coleridge frankly reveals his odd and 
amusing self, in particular his adventures when he 
was touting for The Watchman, was overcome by 
yellow tobacco, and rose from his stupor to 
proclaim his doubts about reading newspapers at 
all. Then we have also Mr. Sampson's notes, 
and an introduction by the liveliest of English 
professors. Sir Arthur and Mr. Sampson both 
owe something to Mr. Shawcross, whose -edition 
of the ' Biographia ' might have been distinctly 
mentioned by the Professor. A just tribute to- - 
its excellence is paid on p. 248. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 17, 1920. 

' Coleridge was a hopeless person, and, as one of 
the present dons of Jesus College, Cambridge, Sir 
Arthur rightly emphasizes the fact that this 
society made every effort to forgive and retain 
him. But he departed to the enrichment of 
English poetry and the doubtful gain of meta- 

physics. His visit to Germany plunged him deep 
in German philosophy, and, once immersed in that 

-turbid flood of speculation, he lost his poetic soul. 
We have always more philosophers than we want, 
seldom enough poets, and it is sad to think that 
Coleridge's poetic achievement at its highest is 

confined to half a dozen poems. We think Sir 
Arthur is quite right in suggesting that it was 
metaphysics rather than opium which delayed 
the criticism of the ' Biographia ' for many years. 
When that criticism came, it made Wordsworth 

occasionally look rather silly, for Wordsworth was 
not a trained logician. However, he did not keep 
to his own rules (no poet does) and the lofty 
idealism and literary sense of his Prefaces are well 
worth study to-day. 

Admirable and witty as Sir Arthur's account of 
-the two poets is, we wish that he had added to 
his general conclusions a clear summary of the 
points raised by both, and told us how far a 
twentieth-century Professor, confronted with the 
"latest tribe of bards, regards them as still valid. 
When all is said, we believe that the psychological 
secret of style has hitherto baffled the meta- 
physicians, professors, and everybody else. The 
process of transfiguration which makes one or two 
-simple words into " a star," to use Browning's 
word, remains beyond us. But, if prose is as near 
verse as Wordsworth indicates, bad prose will 
-never make good verse, as Mr. Sampson points out 
In his notes. Ihey provide an illuminating com- 
mentary on Coleridge's criticisms, and are the 
more pleasing to us for being neatly and aptly 
written. Mr. Sampson has that valuable gift, a 
sense of humour, and we like particularly his 
comparison of Coleridge with Mr. Micawber. He 
is learned in illustration, and there is only one 
note that we wish to correct, that on " the 

essentials of the Greek stage" (p. 277). It is 
clear that there were changes of scenes and pauses 
in the Greek drama, and, though no one can be 
dogmatic about ancient scenery, the device called 
the eKKVK\ijfta was certainly used. It seems 
necessary, for instance, at the end of the 
' Agamemnon,' where Clytaemnestra is discovered 
with the bodies of her husband and Cassandra. 

Papers on the Rumanian People and Literature. 

By M Beza. (Me Bride, Nasli & Co. 2*. 6d. net.) 
OF these papers three were delivered as lectures at 
King's College. London University, and three 
others have appeared in as many periodicals. 
Together they compose a little work which, in the 
(comparative) dearth of hooks on Rumania, should 
prove useful to those who are interested in the 
history and situation of that country. Its brevity 
and abruptness make it somewhat inapt to serve 
as the originator of such interest. 

The most important essay is that on the Folk- 
Poetry of Rumania. That on English influence in 
Rumanian literature, though it does not carry 
very clear conviction, contains a good deal of 
interesting matter. We are left with the wish 
that the writer would give us a work less super- 
ficial, more systematic, and planned on an ampler 
scale. We are inclined to believe he has the 
capacity for this. 

WE are glad to find room though somewhat 
belated! v for n brief notice of the March number 
of the Durham LTnivertify Journal for the sake of 
a very careful and graphically written article by 
Mr. C. E. Whiting, on the Great Plot, organised in 
1663, to dethrone Charles II. and re-estahlish the 
Commonwealth. Mr. Whiting, chiefly from a study 
of the State Papers of the times makes it evident, 
in considerable detail, that the Government was 
faced with a danger much more widespread and 
more formidable than has commonly been supposed. 
Fresh knowledge on the subject, and a consequent 
revision of ordinary opinion upon it, also makes 
necessary a revision of ordinary opinion with regard 
to the Conventicle and Five Mile Acts. The 
Government of Charles II. at no moment contained 
a heroic figure, but its standard of ordinary working 
ability and sharpness was certainly pretty high. 

THE University of Liverpool is taking the 
initiative in a course of action new to Universities. 
It is making a straightforward appeal to the public 
for support for help, not merely to continue its 
work, but also to expand it. The appeal is 
drawn up much as hospital or Red Cross appeals 
have been, the difficulties, achievements, and 
aims of the University tersely set forth therein, 
with equally terse and plain suggestions as to the 
line help should take. The appeal is not merely 
circulated by post, but also appears as an adver- 
tisement. As the artist has already seized on the 
picture advertisement, and the time is close at 
hand when every poster will be a " work," so 
now we may expect that learning and literature 
will seize on the written advertisement. In 
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CONTENTS. No. 106. 

".NOTES : Lord Calderon's Pictures from the Gerin 
Gallery, 141 London Coffee-houses, Taverns, and Inns ii 
the Eighteenth Century, 143 Inscriptions at St. Omer 
Pamela (Lady Edward Fitzgerald), 145 Hugh Beatty 
Kinma Hamilton - Welshmen's English, 146 Bayle's 
'Dictionary': Cromwell Family John Free, D.D., 147. 

'QUERIKS: Shakespeare Signals ? 147 Postern Gates in 
the Wall of London. 148 Dante and the History o 
Mohammed David Humphreys. American Humorist am 
Lyricist" Diddykites " and Gipsies" The Farnet " 
the Queen's Street A French Baronet Montretout- 
Soaps for Salt Water Helps Family The Turul, 149 
The Rev. Benjamin Klnyney, D.D. Bibliography o 
Lepers in England De Quincey or Qtiiticy Marty n anc 
Beadon Families Anathema Cup Garnham Family 
Reference Wanted Author of Quotations Wanted, 150 

REPLIES: Prince Charles in North Devon. 150 Halhed 
Family John Carpenter, 152 Blackwvll Hall Factor 
The Rev. Aaron Baker Grafton, Oxon Sir Henry Cary 
of Cockington, Devon Slang Terms The Hawkhurct 
Gang, 153 -Christmas Carol : Origin Wanted, 154 Rs 
Coningsby of Salop Song : 'The Spade' Gordon : the 
Meaning of the Name, 155 Mrs. Gordon, Novelist Tne 
Third Troop of Guards in 1727 Grosvenor Place, 156 
Le Monument " Quand Mme "^Italian St. Swithin's 
Day : " i qu.ttro Aprilanti" Karliest Clerical Directory 
P'ewter Snuffers "Tubus": a Christian Name 
1 Hocus Pocua ' : ' a Rich Gift.' 157 Master Gunner 
'Teapoy "Sir Edward Facet " Catholic " Theodorus 
of Cyrene, 158 Bank Note Slang Authors f Quotations 
Wanted, 159. 

NOTES ON BOOKS : ' The Oxford English Dictionary ' 
"The Bowyer Bible.' 

'Notices to Correspondents. 


'THE private purchases in Italy by English- 
men of Italian pictures during the latter part 
of the eighteenth and the early part of the 
nineteenth century were of an extensive 
character. Many English artists, such as 
Gavin Hamilton, were commissioned by 
collectors at home to make purchases when- 
ever anything of importance came into the 
market. Moreover, the exportation of col- 
lections small and large from Italy to 
Christie's and other London auction-rooms 
was carried on on a large scale. There 
appears to have been very little difficulty in 
getting pictures out of Italy in those days, 
and the laws, if there were any, governing 
the export of national treasures, of one state 
would not hold good in another once the 
frontier was passed. We know a good deal 
; about these exportations from W. Buchanan's 
interesting if badly digested 'Memoirs of 
Painting,' 1824 ; but not much has been 
printed concerning the prices paid, except 
when they were very large. 

I possess an interesting little bill of Lord 
Caledon's purchases from the Gerini gallery 
in Florence in 1826, and this, I think, is worth 
quoting in extenso : 

Nota dei Quadri della Galleria Gerini venduti a 

Mylord Caledon per i prezzi di stima flssa 

come appresso. 


No. 110 Giuseppe Zocchi .. 10 
,, 140 Bassano . . 60 

276 Alessandro Allori . . 100 
., 313 Angelo Bronzino . . 80 
Valore delle quattro cornici per 
il prezzo N. [nominale] di 
stima.. .. .. .. 5.6 

zfzecchini] 245. p [paoli] 6} 
A. 6 gmbre [anno 6 November] 1826. 
lo Francesco Speranza M>d. di Casa del Nob. 1 
M. Carlo Gerini ho ricevuto da Mylord Caledon per 
mano del suo Mrd. di casa la suddetta somma di 
zecchini dugento quaranta cinque fiorentini 
p[paoli] 6i per saldo del prezzo dei suddetti quadri 
Prances.[ =francesconi] 490. p.fpaoli] 6i. 
The zecchino, or sequin, was a gold coin 
of which the value was from 9s. 2d. to Qs. 6d. 
sterling. A francescone (or scudo) was half 
the value of a zecchino ; and a paolo, a small 
silver coin (10 = a francescone), was about 
equivalent to sixpence. It would appear 
from the above nota that the pictures were 
sold without the frames, but that the buyer 
of the pictures had the option of taking the 
frames at a valuation. 

Apparently there was a sale by auction of 
the Gerini pictures, or some of them, in 1826, 
for the bill was written on the back, pre- 
sumably in Lord Caledon's autograph : 
" Receipt for pictures bought out of the 
Gerini palace, Florence, including auction 

The Gerini gallery does not appear to have 

aeen either one of the oldest or the most 

important of the Florentine private collec- 

ions. I do not find it in some of the early 

' Guides ' which I have, e.g., ' Guida al 

Forestiero. . . .della Citta di Firenze ' of 1793 

6th ed.) and ' Guida per osservare con 

metodo le Rarita e Bellezze della Citta di 

Firenze,' of which the ninth edition appeared 

n 1805. My copy of the latter belonged to 

Sir Thomas Gage of Hengrave Hall, who 

lad it interleaved to small quarto size and 

filled it with notes on the various pictures 

and places in Florence. There was appar- 

ently no printed catalogue of the Gerini 

pictures, and so Sir Thomas made one for 

limself and had it bound up in his inter- 

eaved copy of the ' Guida.' He there tells 

is he was writing in the summer of 1817 

hat : 

" This collection consists of 339 pictures for 
rhich 20 thousand sequins has been asked. The 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 24, 1920 

greatest part are good, and some of the pieces 

capital. I have made a list of nearly the whole 

omitting only a few which were inferior to the 


At the end of his catalogue Sir Thomas Gage 

has written : 

" Note 1818. The Grand Duke has bought the 
five best pictures of the Gerini Gallery : the rest 
are for sale but few are disposed of. The prices 
asked are absurd and the pictures worth very 

The Italian nota gives only the sale 
numbers and artists' names, so it is difficult 
to identify them in Gage's list. At the 
British Institution of 1855, nos. 71 and i 
Lord Caledon exhibited two portraits as by 
Bronzino, a man and a lady, and these are 
doubtless nos. 276 and 313 in the nota, where 
the nephew and the uncle are differentiated. 
The portrait of the man (perhaps Gage's 
"man in a red cap, head too small") is 
described by Waagen ( ' Galleries and Cabinets 
of Art in Great Britain,' 1857, p. 151) as of 
" a young man of noble features, a letter in his 
right hand, his left placed on his hip ; of spirited 
conception and careful execution in somewhat 
gray tone." 

Lord Caledon had two pictures by Bassano, 
both of which were at the Old Masters, 
Burlington House, in 1882, nos. 143, 148, 
' The Departure of the Israelites ' and 
' Dives and Lazarus/ both 45 in. by 64 in. 
The former only was mentioned by Waagen 
(p. 148), who was not quite sure about the 
subject of the picture, which may be 
identical with Gage's " Peasants and Cattle, 

The Palazzo Gerini still contained some 
pictures when Mariana Starke published the 
ninth edition of her ' Travels in Europe,' 1836, 
" though the finest part of this collection has 
been sold." W. ROBERTS. 

18 King's Avenue, S.W.4. 


SONNET 125, 'THE CANOPY.' Sonnet 125 
begins : 

Were't aught to me I bore the canopy, 

With my extern the outward honouring 

The late Dean Beeching in his edition of 
the Sonnets has the following note on the 
last three words of the first line : " A symbol 
of outward honour, canopies being carried 
over royal persons in processions." 

Mr. J. Thomas Looney in his ' Shakespeare 
Identified ' remarks that : "If this passage 
can be shown to have any direct connexion 
with the functions of Lord Great Chamber- 
lain, it will be a very valuable direct proof of 

our thesis." His thesis is that Edward De 
Vere, Earl of Oxford, who had the office of 
Lord Great Chamberlain, wrote Shake- 
speare's works. But surely, if looking after 
the canopy was his business, he would not 
have actually carried it, or helped to carry 
it, himself. That would be the duty of 
persons of less rank whom he would appoint 
for the business. Mr. Looney refers to the 
coronation of James I., which is a suitable 
date for the sonnet, and I have always con- 
nected the expression " bore the canopy " 
with the aforesaid coronation. Now in old 
Hastings Church several memorials attached 
to the walls speak of persons who carried the 
canopy at various coronations. So I take 
this duty to have been a privilege of the 
Cinque Ports. Had Shakespeare any con- 
nexion with them ? Or does the line mean 
that Shakespeare was maliciously foiled in 
an attempt to be included among the 
bearers, as Samuel Butler suggests ? It 
is possible that at the last moment some 
Cinque Ports person appeared, and, claiming 
his right, turned Shakespeare out of the 
position he hoped to occupy. 

Of course, there were other occasions on 
which the canopy was used, e.g., in Queen 
Elizabeth's progress to St. Paul's after the 
news of the defeat of the Armada in 1588. 
There is nothing on the subject in the 
' Court ' section of the generally encyclo- 
paedic ' Shakespeare's England.' 


' 2 Henry IV.,' Act V., sc. iii., when Pistol 
brought the news of the accession of 
Henry V., he was in no hurry to explain 
definitely what had happened, and Falstaff 
exclaimed : " For God's sake, talk like a 
man of this world." That at least is what 
the world in general thinks he said ; but the 
reader who knows that Falstaff is the speaker 
will seek for the line in vain in Bartlett's 
'Familiar Quotations,' though Pistol's reply 
in the very next line is included. The fact 
is that Pistol spoke of :~- 

tidings lucky joys, 

And golden times and happy news of price, 

and Falstaff naturally replied : 

'. pray thee now, deliver them like a man of this 
world. V. iii, 101. 

The "them " without the previous lines is 
unintelligible ; so the reply has been altered 
nto a form which is clear by itself, with a 
stronger appeal for the facts at the beginning 
of it. When this was first done I do not 

12 8. VI. APRIL 24, 192<X] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

know, but recently I came across the mis- 
quotation in print. Shelley, writing to 
Peacock concerning ' Nightmare Abbey ' on 
June 20, 1819, includes in his criticism of 
that delightful work the words : "I suppose 
the moral is contained in what Falstaff says : 
Tor God's sake, talk like a man of this 


V. R. 


v. 202 ; vi. 3). When I was in Queensland 
the word " trash " was in ordinary use on 
the northern sugar plantations. It meant 
to strip some of the leaves from the sugar 
cane on account of the too luxurious tropical 
growth, in order to give light and air to the 
growing plant. F. JESSEL. 



(See ante. pp. 29, 59, 84, 105, 125.) 

St. James's 

St. John's 
St. Paul's 


Saltero's . . 

Salutation or 


Salutation and Cat 


Saracen's Head ' . , 


Seymour's . 

Ship Tavern 
Ship Tavern 

Ship Tavern 
Ship Tavern 

Ship Tavern 
Ship and Anchor . . 
Ship and Turtle . . 
Simon the Tanner Inn 
Sir Hugh Myddelton's 
Sir John Oldcastle 


Slaughter's (Old) .. 

St. James's Street (west 1710 



. ., 1722 


Shire Lane, Fleet Street . . 
Near Doctors' Commons.. 

Swift's 'Journal,' Oct. 8, Nov. 11 

Addison's Tatter, no. 224. 
Addison's Spectator, Mar. 1. 
Advert, to Lady Mary's ' Town Eclogues.' 
Defoe s ' Journey through England ' ; 

Cunningham, p. 254. 
Fielding's ' Covent Garden Tragedy ' 
Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 216 

Goldsmith's ' Retaliation.' 

Charing Cross 


See Don. Saltfro's. 
Tavistock Street, Covent 

Newgate Street at no. 17 
(south side) 


Near Pope's Head Alley . . 1778 

Snow Hill, Holborn (near 
St. Sepulchre's Church) 

Serle Street, Lincoln's Inn 1711 


Near Pope's Head Alley . . 1778 

Piazza, Covent Garden . . 1765 

f j -~ mMMAVMj 111. *J. 

Roach s L.P.P., pp. 47, 52 ; Wheatley's 
London,' m. 206 ; MacMichael's ' Char- 
ing Cross,' p. 67. 

Sydney's ' XVIIIth Century,' i. 194 Mac- 
Michael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 200 
Larwood, p. 265. 

Larwood, pp. 12 and 265 ; Shelley's ' Inns ' 
p. 65 ; Sydney's ' XVIII th Century'' 
i. 194 ; Harben's ' Dictionary of London'' 
m. 1 207. P ' 51?; Wheatle y' s 'London'/ 

' N. & Q Dec. 9, 1916, p. 464 ; Shelley's-, 
I Inns, p. 177 ; Wheatley's ' London/ 

111* 208. 

Shelley's 'Inns,' p. -155; Thornbury, 
H: _ 4 3p. 485; Wheatley's 'London/ 

111* I ''. 

Steele's Spectator, no. 49 ; Wheatley's 

' London,' iii. 232. 
' N. & Q.,' Dec. 9, 1916, p. 464. 
Hickey, i. 50, 84, 101, 125, 131, 301 ; 

ii. 90 ; MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' 

p. Ail. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 17. 
Compston's ' Magdalen Hospital,' 1917 

p. 60. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross," p. 127. 
Fielding's ' Champion.' 

Blunt's ' Paradise Row,' 1906, p. 117 
Christ. Smart, ' The Student,' ii. note 215, 
Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 46. 
Thornbury, vi. 123. 

Warwick Wroth, p. 70. 

Bedford Court, Covent Gar- 1742 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross ' D 180 


St. Martin's Lane, close to Besant, p. 316; Shelley's 'Inns,' p. 225- 
Great Newport Street MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 182 - 

Hardcastle, i. 109, 130, 174, 230 "- 
Dobson's 'Hogarth,' 1907, p. 88; 
Wheatley's ' London,' iii. 252. 

Millbank 1775 

Close to Goodman's Fields 1703 


Chandos Street . . . . 1742 
Ship Yard, Without Temple 1739 

Near Ormonde House, Chelsea 

Temple Bar 

Leadenhall Street 

Long Lane, Bermondsey . . 

See Hugh Myddelton's. 
South of Bagnigge Wells . . 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL at. 1920. 

-Slaughter's (Old) .. 

Slaughter's (New or 


: Spiller's Head 

Spread Eagle 
Spring Garden 

Standard Tavern 


Star and Garter 

: Star and Garter 

Star and Garter 
"Stephen's . . 

Sun Tavern 
Sun Tavern 

Sun Tavern 

Sun Tavern 



' Swan Inn . . 

Swan Tavern 
' Swan Tavern 

Swan Tavern 

Swan with Two 

Necks Inn 
Sword Blade 


Thatched House 

Thistle and Crown . 

St. Martin's Lane, close to 
Great Newport Street 

St. Martin's Lane (on the 
site of the present West- 
minster County Court) 

Pall Mall (north side) 

Clare Market 


Opposite to Park Entrance 
Puller's Rents, near Gray's 


Leicester Fields . . 
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Chelsea and Pimlico 
Pall Mall 


King Street. Bloomsbury 
St. Martin's Court, St. 

Martin's Lane 
Foster Lane 
St. Paul's Churchvard 

Clare Street 
Fleet Street 
Between Jonathan's and 

Three Tuns in Exchange 


West Smithfield .. 
Covent Garden 
Fish Street Hill 

Lad Lane (now Gresham 

Corner of Exchange Alley 

and Birchin Lane 

High Street, Southwark . . 
Near Temple Bar 

St. James's Street 

Crown Court, St. Martin's 

1742 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 185 . 

1768 Hickey, i. 71, 109, 324 ; Wheatley'a 

' Hogarth's London,' p. 292. 
1775 Meteyard's ' Life of Wedgwood,' ii. 418. 
1710 Swift's ' Journal,' Oct. 15, Nov. 18. 
1738 Besant, p. 313 ; Wheatley's ' London,' 

iii. 258 ; Straus' ' Dodsley,' 1910, p. 38 ; 

Goldsmith's ' Life of Beau Nash ' ; 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 35. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 47 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' 

p. 205 ; Wheatley's ' London,' iii. 268. 
1729 Pearce's ' Polly Peachum,' 1913, p. 120 ; 

Larwood, p. 84 ; Hogarth's ' Oysters or 

St. James's Day ' ; Hardcastle, i. 37, 230 ; 

ii. 149 ; Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' 

pp. 273, 322 ; Dobson's ' Hogarth,' 1907, 

p. 218. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 60. 
1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 48. 
1727 Stirling's A.Y.H., i. 92 ; Hare, ii. 190. 

Larwood, p. 322. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 91. 

Warwick Wroth, p. 220. 

1712 Swift's ' Journal,' Mar. 20. 

1742 Price's ' Marygold,' p. 118. 

1749 General Advertiser, July 15. 

1753 Public Advertiser, Mar. 5. 

1780 Hickey, ii. 289, 314. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 46 ; Wheatley's ' Lon- 
don,' iii. 305 : Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 143 
Austin Dobson's ' Side- Walk Studies, 
1902, p. 170. 

1749 General Advertiser, July 4. 

1702 London Post, May 5. 

1721 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 322. 

1795 Humphrey's ' Memoirs,' p. 247. 

1767 Straus' '"Carriages and Coaches,' 1912, 

p. 184. 
1721 Middlesex County Records, Sessions Books, 


Larwood, p. 498. 
1755 Public Advertiser, April 4. 
1748 Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q.,' 

Dec. 9, 1916, p. 461. 

1717 Evening Post, Aug. 6. 

Gomme's G.M.L., pt. xvi., p. 179. 

1718 Larwood, p. 379. 

1771 Hickey, i. 298 : Blunt's ' Paradise Row,' 
1906, pp. 170-9. 

Thornbury, i. 374 and 378 : Larwood, p. 217. 

1718 Larwood, p. 324. 

1748 Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q.,' 
Dec. 9, 1916, p. 461. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 13. 

1757 Masson's ' Memoirs of Goldsmith,' 1869. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 47 : Wheatley's ' Lon- 

1711 Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 149. 

1781 Hickey, ii. 314. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 46 ; Wheatley's ' Lon- 
don,' iii. 370. 

MacMichaeFs ' Charing Cross,' p. 158. 

(To be tonchidtd.') 


12 S. VI. APRIL 24, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 



THE following inscriptions on buildings in 
St. Omer were copied by me during oc- 
casional visits to that town in the years 
1918-19 : 

1. Military Hospital. Over the entrance 
to the Military Hospital (formerly the 
College of the English Jesuits) in the Rue 
St. Bertin is this inscription : 

Fonde par les Jesuites Anglais en 1592 

College Royal en 1760 

Hdpital Militaire apres la bataille d'Hondscoote 
en 1793 

Brute en 1684 Reconstruit en 1685 Brute en 


Reconstruit immediatement) Brute partiellemenfc 
en 1826 Restaure en 1845 

2. General Hospital. Over the entrance to 
the Hopital General, 16 rue du St. Sepulchre, 
is the inscription : 

MM. de Valbelle, Fondateurs 

Primus fundat opus, bene ditat prodigus alter 

Tertius sedificat tres habet una domus 


This building was begun in 1702, but the 
part facing the street on which the inscription 
occurs was not finished till 1767. The 
founders were three Bishops of St. Omer, 
Louis Alphonse de Valbelle (1684-1708), 
Francois de Valbelle (1708-27), and Joseph 
Alphonse de Valbelle (1727-54). Francois 
was cousin to Louis Alphonse, and Joseph 
Alphonse was nephew of Francois. 

3. Simon Ogier's Birthplace. This house, 
now 99 rue de Dunkerque, was known as the 
Blanc Ram. It preserves its early sixteenth- 
century faade, only slightly altered. A 
tablet was placed between the middle 
windows of the first floor on the tercentenary 
of the poet's birth. It reads : 


naquit dans cette Maison du Blanc Ram 

le 3 mai 1549 

3 mai 1849 

4. Communal Library. At the top of the 
staircase of the Bibliotheque Communale is 
a tablet with this inscription : 

Bibliotheque Communale 

Instaltee dans les batiments des classes 

du coltege des Jesuites Wallons 
Decrets des 8 Pluvi6se et 14 fructidor an II. 
Rendue Publique Janvier 1805 

Reconstruite 1893-1894 
MM. Francois Ringot, Senateur, Maire. 
Louis Vasseur ).-. 
Charles Hermant /Adjomts. 
e.., Ernest Decroix, Architecte. 

5. Obelisk. On the Plateau d'Helfaut, 
about 5 kilometres to the south of St. Omer, 
is an obelisk erected in 1842 to the memory 
of the Duke of Orleans, eldest son of Louis 
Philippe. It was restored in 1907 by the 
" Souvenir Frangais," as recorded by a white- 
marble tablet. During the war, however, the 
monument, which is constructed in a soft,, 
white stone, has been sadly defaced with th* 
names of innumerable soldiers (chiefly 
British) carved or scratched all over its 
surface. It is now almost impossible to- 
decipher the original inscriptions. On the- 
front of the pedestal I could read : 

A la m^moire 
de son General en chef 

S.A.R. Monseigneur 


la Deuxieme Division 

du Corps d' Operations 

.... sur la Marne 

There are inscriptions on the other three 
sides of the pedestal, but I was unable to 
make them out owing to the recent deface- 
ments. F. H. CHEETHAM. 

Since the publication (1904) of Mr. Gerald' 
Campbell's volume on Lord Edward Fitz- 
gerald, the mystery of his wife's identity has 
attracted little notice. Mr. Campbell seems 
to admit, though with much reservation, 
the story that Pamela was the child of the 
Due d'Orleans (Egalite) and Mme. de Genlis. 

In ' Le Journal d'une Femme de Cinquante 
Ans,' published in 1906, the writer, who was 
on intimate terms with Mme. de Genlis, puts 
a very different version of the mystery. 
Mme. de Genlis maintained that Pamela had' 
been brought to France from England. This 
is borne out by a statement made by the- 
writer's aunt, Lady Jerningham. According 
to this lady on one occasion she was talking 
to the clergyman of a parish in Shropshire 
on the Jerningham estate, who told her that 
he had received a letter from Mme. de Genlis, 
with whom he was acquainted, saying : 

"Que pour des raisons particulieres et extreme- 
ment importantes, elle desirait se charger de 1'educa- 
tion d'une enfant de cinq ou six ans, dout elle 
lui faisait le signalement le plus detaille. Une 
grosse sommeetait destinee aux parents de 1'enfant, 
condition du secret le plus absolu." &c. 

The clergyman succeeded in finding a 
child, who satisfied the conditions, and she 
was sent to an address in London. The 
writer saw her first when she was about 1& 
at the convent Belle Chasse, where Mme.- 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. VL APRIL 24, 1920. 

de Genlis lived and where the royal princes 
and a select few persons of distinction, went 
two or three times a week to dance and 
amuse themselves. 

Pamela's beauty, both of face and figure, 

was quite out of the usual, and had nothing 

! in common with the heavy and even ungainly 

carriage of the Orleans family nor with the 

tete d poire attributed to its members. 

So far there is merely local discrepancy 
between Mr. Gerard Campbell's and Mme. 

de la Tour's more personal testimony. By 
the former the selection of the child is 

attributed to the Duke's trainer, and by the 
latter to a parish rector. In one account 
Shropshire is the " hunting ground," in the 
other Christ Church (query Hants ?) or " the 
neighbourhood of Bristol." 

Here, however, Mme. de la Tour offers an 
explanation which may help to clear away 
vpart of the mystery. Mme. de Genlis had 
had a child by the Due d'Qrleans, but had 
.never been attached to her ; and, on the 
marriage of her own legitimate daughter to 
M. de Valence, Mme. de Genlis confided to 
her the child, then about 9 years old, on the 
ground that by educating her Mme. de 
Valence, whose husband was attached to 
the Due d'Orleans' household, would be 
better prepared for the bringing up of her 
own children. Meanwhile it was decided 
that the girl should be regarded as an enfant 
trouvee, although sister (maternally) to Mme. 
de Valence and (paternally) to Louis Philippe. 
Mme. de la Tour du Pin, whose intimacy 
with Mme. de Valence survived the Revolu- 
tion and broughjb them together later, only 
knew the child by the name of Hermine. 
Hermine was ultimately married to an 
agent de change named Collard, and had a 
iarge family, one of whom, Mme. Cappelle, 
was the mother of the notorious Mme. 
Lafarge. L. G. R. 


HUGH BEATTY. (See 8 S. vii. 108.) 
^Twenty-five years ago a question was asked 
about this officer, and was apparently 
unanswered. He was there stated to have 
been an Irishman and a captain in the 
-British Army, and to have joined the 
Portuguese Army in 1762. Particulars of his 
family and regiment were asked for. I now 
venture to send these, in the hope that the 
querist may be still living. Hugh Beatty 
was second son of John Beatty of Monaghan, 
cornet Monaghan Militia (Colonel Oliver 
Anketell's Dragoons), by Sophia, daughter of 
Hugh Gilmore of Monaghan. John was 
ifchird son of John Beatty of Springtown, co. 

Longford, by Anne (Pakenham) his wife, 
and the latter John was son of John Beatty 
of Corr, co. Cavan, by his second wife Mary, 
sister of Richard Young of Drumgoon, 
co. Cavan. John of Corr was eldest son of 
John Beatty of Farranseer, co. Cavan, who 
died in 1681. 

Hugh became ensign 73rd Foot (Lord 
Blayney's Regiment), Jan. 17, 1760, which 
regiment was " broke " in 1763. On May 26, 
1770, Lord Dartry brought an Exchequer 
Bill against Hugh's brother John, his sister 
Sophia, and her husband William Adams, and 
others, in which he stated that Hugh was 
dead. But in an amended Bill, dated 
Jan. 14, 1773, Lord Dartry altered this. 
Hugh was said to have died abroad, but 
" your suppliant is now informed that Hugh 
Beatty is still alive, and lives in Portugal." 

Burke's ' Peerage,' under the title Earl of 
Longford, is manifestly wrong in stating 
that Anne Pakenham married Robert Beatty 
of Springtown. There was no Robert of that 
generation ; but John of Springtown had a 
wife Anne, and a son Pakenham, and so was 
evidently the person intended. 


The Vicarage, Newry, co. Down. 

EMMA HAMILTON. Lord Dillon sends to 
The Times (12th inst.) a letter which it may 
be as well to preserve in ' N. & Q.' : 

To the Editor of The Time*. 

SIR, Some of your readers will be interested to 
learn that a plaque has been placed on No. 27, Rue 
Francaise, Calais, to the following effect : 
Emma Lady Hamilton, the Friend of 
Admiral Lord Nelson, died in 
this house, January 15, 

This Tablet is erected by British Officers 

serving in Calais during the Great War, 
in memory of Lord Nelson's last request. 

Your obedient servant, 

Ditchley, Enstone, April 8. 


WELSHMEN'S ENGLISH. Darmesteter in his 
' Morceaux Choisis des Auteurs du XVIe 
siecle,' p. 122, gives a story by Bonaventure 
des Periers called ' De trois freres qui 
cuiderent stre pendus pour leur latin ' 
(Edit. Lacour, ' Les Nouvelles recreations et 
joyeux devis,' Nouv. xx., tome ii., p. 94). 
Apart from this story's relation to reality 
(see 'Les Ecoliers,' by Larivey, Darmesteter, 
op. cit., p. 373), it would appear that the 
incidents of the above tale are to be found 
in an earlier and more curious setting, namely, 
the linguistic mistakes of Welshmen, as 



rridiculed by Latin story-tellers in the Middle 
Ages, when the former in coming to England 
attempted to make themselves understood in 
English. The following is a quotation from 
' Giraldus Cambrensis,' Opera I., Preface, 
p. Ixii, note (Rolls Series, ed. J. S. Brewer, 
M.A., London, Longman, Green, Longman & 
Roberts, 1861) : 

" Latin story-tellers in the Middle Ages are 
fond of exposing the Welshman's ignorance of 
English. Here is one : Three Welshmen resolved 
to travel into England, but being ignorant of the 
language of the country, they resolved to divide 
between them the pains of mastering the necessary 
vocabulary. One was to say : ' We three Welsh- 
men ' ; the second : ' For a penny in the purse ' ; 
the third : ' All right.' This stock of English they 
supposed would be sufficient to meet all the 
-exhorbitant demands of tradesmen and hotel- 
keepers ; and thus furnished, they started on their 
travels. They had not proceeded far when they 
found on the highway the body of a man who had 
been lately murdered. As they stood pitying his 
misfortune, the Hue and Cry overtook them. 
4 Who did this ? ' exclaimed the leader of the 
quest. ' We three Welshmen,' was the ready 
-answer. ' What for ? ' ' For a penny in the 
purse,' chimed in the second. ' Then you shall all 
be hanged.' ' All right,' exclaimed the third." 

This story is, as regards plot, substantially 
the same as that told by des Periers. 

Howth, co. Dublin. 

FAMILY. It is not often that one finds the 
learned Bayle making a mistake in his famous 
book ; but in his article on ' Xenophanes ' 
(Note D.) he has a marginal reference to Dr. 
"Wilkins, Bishop of Chester, in which it is 
stated that he married a sister of Cromwell, 
by whom he had a daughter who became 
wife of Dr. Tillotson. Wilkins married 
Robina, Cromwell's sister, no doubt ; but 
she was the widow of Canon Peter French, 
1>y whom she had a daughter Elizabeth, who 
Tsecame the wife of Tillotson she was 
therefore step -daughter, not daughter, of 
the Bishop. (I quote the English transla- 
tion.) J. F. F. 


JOHN FBEE, D.lX Foster's' Alumni 
Oxonienses ' contains the following : 

" Free, John, s. John, of St. Michael's, Oxford 
irieb. ; Ch. Ch., matric. Mar. 27, 1727, aged 15. 
B.A. 1730, M.A. 1733 ; Hertford Coll., B. and D.D.. 
;1744 ; head-master of St. Olave's Grammar 
School, Southwark." 

Dr. Free subsequently held the rectory of 
.St. Mary's, Newington Butts. He published 
various works, and amongst them in 1766 
" A Plan for founding in England, at the 
expense of a great Empress, a Free Uni- 

versity, &c." On this The Monthly Review, 
vol. xxxv., p. 472, has this comment : 

" Dr. Free having learnt that her Majesty of 
Eussia hath several times sent some of her 
subjects for education to the University of Oxford, 
where they can never be admitted as regular 

scholars proposes that the said Empress shall, 

with the assistance of him, the said Dr. Free, 
found a free University at Newington Butts, 
which he thinks the most proper situation, and 
gives his reasons for so thinking : and certainly no 
place can be more convenient for the Doctor, 
because he is already settled there ; and the 
Dover coach passes through the village, and sets 
down passengers at the sign of the Elephant and 
Castle. The plan of the proposed seminary is here 
particularly set down ; and then comes the 
proposed liturgy in three languages [English, 
Latin, and French], for the use of this royal 
college ; in which all Jews, Turks, Heretics, and 
Infidels may join without the least scruple of 
conscience, as there is not a word of Christianity 
in it." 

Dr. Free was still alive in 1786, but his 
extraordinary project never materialized. 

0$ items. 

We must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 


A WELL-KNOWN Shakespearian with an 
hereditary reason for taking a special 
interest in the First Folio, CAPT. JAGGABD, 
has suggested my submitting to ' N. & Q.' 
certain traces of sub -surf ace signalling 
discovered by me in a First Folio com- 
mendatory poem. 

The (poem is that initialled "I. M." the 
one which, in properly bound copies of the 
First Folio, is that placed next before the 

In the second line, which runs : " From 
the Worlds-Stage to the Graves-Tyring- 
roome," the absurd hyphens suggest that 
here might be a fllum labyrinthi. The 
repetition of the first word of the poem, 
"WEE," as the first word of the third line is 
another arguable clue to a cryptogram, as 
conceivably marking off the first three rows 
of words, or of their numerical values, for 
some purpose. The eight lines or chess- 
board depth of the poem, provides yet 
another hint for those suspicious of sub- 
surface signalling. 

Discarding the superfluous hyphens so as 
to get only lexicon words, I worked out the 
word numerical values according to various 
Elizabethan letter-number codes. And I 


NOTES AND QUERIES. (12 8. vi. APRIL 2*. 1920. 

found appearances of signalling by the 
o=l to z = 24 or " crosse row " code (which 
allots both i and j the value 9 and both 
u and v the value 20), and by that code alone. 

It seeming possible that minor signals 
might have been arranged in the shape of a 
couple of initial letters of the full depth of 
the poem, I first' ascertained what letters 
could be given a three-row top as for 
reasons already stated a conceivably marked- 
off section. I found that on the rational 
assumption that each separate stroke or 
loop should be of the same thickness 
throughout, only an / could be allotted such 
a top in a total depth of but eight rows of 
word numerical values. And it was then 
evident that as some lines of the poem 
contain but six words, with the consequence 
that a full chess-board area of word numerical 
values, 8 X 8, is not available, the experiment 
should be with the first four columns ol 
words and values as the equivalent of half 
a chess-board. 

Here are the words and values of such half 
chess-board area : 

WEE wondred Shakespeare that 31 78 103 

From the Worlds Stage 49 32 85 5 

Wee thought thee dead 31 95 37 1* 

Tels thy Spectators that 53 60 129 47 

To enter with applause 33 59 67 Sft 

Can dye and live 17 32 18 45 

Thats but an Exit 65 41 14 65 

This a Re-entrance to 64 1 98 33 

At this point of my search I ascertained 
the total numerical value of the 20 outside 
words of this area, and found it to be 990. 
And I then traced out a three-row-top F in 
such area which took 19 word numerical 
values. This turned out to have the same 
total numerical value as what might be 
called its " frame," viz., 990. 

The two halves of this arguable double 
signal are respectively as follows : 

(A) The ' frame ' of outside (B) The arguably signalled 
values of operating area. initial letter F. 

31 78 103 47 31 78 103 47 

49 60 49 32 85 60 

14 31 95 37 14 

53 47 53 

33 86 33 59 67 

17 45 17 

65 65 65 

54 1 98 33 54 

Now for a fuller statement of the coin- 
cidences : (1) Both the / and its " frame " 
total 990 in word numerical value ; (2) in 
both instances the colour of square division 
of the 990 is 439 white and 551 black when 
all 32 word numerical values are placed on 
the squares of a chess-board ; (3) the cross- 
sum or digit addition total for all 32 values, 
280, is divided as three top rows 103, five 
bottom rows 177, while, taking all eight 

rows together, the colour of square division 
is 103 white and 177 black. Moreover 103 
happens to be the equivalent of the surname 
Shakespeare, and 177 the equivalent of the 
full publication name of the poet William 

I placed the cross-sum section of these 
coincidences, entirely by itself and without 
mention of the equivalents, before one of our 
foremost mathematicians, Prof. Andrew R. 
Forsyth, F.R.S., the Chief Professor of 
Mathematics at the Imperial College or 
Science and Technology, as it constitutes a 
clean cut mathematical problem of the odds, 
for or against a mere chance origin. And. 
Prof. Forsyth pronounced as follows : 

" If digits alone were of importance, precisely 
the same result would follow from : 



























" In the next place, when the sum of the digits 
on the white squares is 103, the sum of those on-, 
the black squares as taken from your table (or 
mine) is bound to be 177 ; for the total sum of all 
the digits is 280. 

" I have thought enough to see that the chances 
against the mere chance would be multitudinously 
overwhelming .... But now for a more important 
suggestion to you. The impression left upon me 
is that you are in the presence of one of those 
cryptograms so dear to some minds through many 

I had long before suspected the existence 
of a cryptogram, and have almost as long 
had ready for publication a tentative 
completion of the cryptogram as I have felt 
forced to envisage it. But many judge this 
unsatisfactory from a sentimental point of" 
view. And if readers of ' N. & Q.' can 
provide a solution which shall be deemed, 
satisfying from a sentimental as well as from 
a mathematical point of view, I would 
willingly adopt it in preference to my own. 

Ravenswood, 45 Sutton Court Road, 
Chiswick, W.4. 

It has been recently stated that Warwick 
the King-maker used to go in and out of 
London by a private postern gate, the 
situation of which is still marked by a 
Bight of steps running down from Warwick 
Square towards the Old Bailey. Are these 
statements correct, and how many postera 
gates existed in the wall of London ? 


128. VI. APRIL 24,1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Can any of your readers inform me what 
history of Mohammed Dante would be likely 
to have had access to ? Presumably, it wag 
one giving prominence to the exploits of Ali 
whom ho seems to have regarded as the 
successor of Mohammed, although three other 
caliphs, Abu Bekr, Omar, and Othman 
preceded him. GERTRUDE LEIGH. 

Attegate, Winchelsea, Sussex. 

[Does not Dante place AH beside Mohammed in 
Hell rather as a rival than as a successor ? The 
difference in their punishment is supposed to cor 
respond with the difference in their offence, the 
one being cleft where the other remains whole.] 

AND LYRICIST. One authority quotes year 
of birth 1762, while another statement aver: 
it to be 1753 ; whichever is correct his demise 
seems to have occurred in 1818. Where was 
he born and was he originally of Welsh 

of gipsies the other day, the Dorset man 
whom I employ as gardener, who is a native 
of and lives at Lilliput in the parish ol 
Parkstone, referred to them as " those 
Gibbies or Diddy kites." He says that the 
latter word, which he spelt in the way here 
given, is the name by which they are 
generally known in his neighbourhood, 
"like one of those names in the Bible." 
As I have never heard it before, I thought it 
worth while asking whether any of the 
readers of ' N. & Q.' have come across it. 


In a Manor Rental dated 1518, in describ- 
ing the boundaries of different fields, a 
reference is constantly made to " the 
Farnet," and the main roads through the 
parish are called "the Queen's Street." 
Can any reader explain either of these 
expressions ? 

I may add, perhaps, that the manor 
was given by Edward I. to Queen Eleanor. 
It is that of West Farleigh, near Maidstone, 

The Hall, West Farleigh. 

A FRENCH BARONET. According to Mme. 
de la Tour du Pin (a Miss Dillon) referring 
to the family of Lally, also of Irish descent 
Gerard Lalley was created a baronet by 
James II. for his services to the Jacobite 
cause in Ireland. The transmission of the 
baronetcy never occurred from the fact that 
illegitimacy and courage were hereditary in 
the Lalley family. He, however, left a son, 

who commanded the Lalley regiment of the 
Irish Brigade at Fontenoy, and was subse- 
quently sent to India, where his campaign 
against Sir Eyre Coote ended disastrously. 
He was enobled by Louis XV. as Comte 
Lalley -Tollendal, who after a scandalous 
trial was condemned and executed. 

Is there any other instance of a French 
subject having had a baronetcy conferred 11 
him, even by a dethroned king ? 

L. G. R. 

MONTRETOUT.- This is the name of a 
district near St. Cloud, whence the French 
made a sortie against the Germans in 
January, 1871. What is the origin of the 
name ? It can hardly be montre-tout, but 
might well be Mont Retout. Is this sup- 
position of mine correct ? 


(1749-1819), in his 'Oriental Memoirs,' 
vol. i., p. 269, speaks of an Indian " vegetable 
soap, called omlah " : 

" The nuts [he says] grow in clusters on a wild 
tree, and the kernels, when made into a paste, 
are preferred to common soap for washing shawls, 
silk, and embroidery ; it lathers in salt water, and 
on that account is valuable at sea, where common 
soap is of little use ; retah, another vegetable soap 
in the vicinity of Surat, has the same property." 

Are omlah and retah articles of commerce 
at the present day ? and, if so, what are the 
modern soaps manufactured therefrom ? 


HELPS FAMILY. I shall be glad if any one 
can give me information regarding a family 
named Helps said to have been wealthy 
living some eighty years ago in London. A 
correspondent in Ohio, U.S.A., writes to 
me : 

" Have heard one of my aunts say that they 
the Helps family lived in London, and could 
look from their house into Queen Victoria's 

There was one child, a daughter, named 
Maria ; she married, against the wish of her 
parents, about the years 1837-42, William 
Southam of the Stratford-upon-xA.von branch; 
who afterwards went to America, where his 
descendants now live. 


THE TURUL. I should be much obliged! 
'or any information respecting the turul, 
the mythical bird of the Magyars. 


Brinsop Grange, Oxford. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 B. vi. APRIL 24, 1920 

This Hebrew scholar died at his rectory of 
Pontshot, Wiltshire, Sept. 20, 1801, aged 73. 
'Was he ever married ? If so, I should be 
pleased to learn the date and particulars of 
his marriage. The ' D.N.B.,' v. 208, is silent 
on this point. G. F. R. B. 

Is it possible to compile a list of books on 
-or dealing with lepers in England, and to 
give a list of works on or dealing with lepsr 
windows. HAYDN T. GILES. 

1 1 Ravensbourne Terrace, South Shields. 

your readers give me any information con- 
cerning the De Quincey, or Quincy, family in 
connexion with the county of Lincolnshire ? 
Is this branch of the family descended from 
Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester ? 

The De Quincey family held large estates 
in Scotland prior to the time of Robert 
Bruce. Is it known in what locality their 
lands existed ? 

I believe that this ancient and now 
practically extinct family occupied as 
important a position in Scotland as the 
English branch did in England. The arms 
are : Gules, seven mascles or. Crest : a 
wyvern's head. N. F. L. HALL. 

44 Kensington Park Road. W.ll. 

formation is requested about the descendants 
of the Rev. Thomas Martyn who married 
.about 1760, Frances, only daughter of the 
Rev. Edward Beadon, Rector of Clay- 
hanger, North Devon. Where was Mr. 
Martyn the incumbent and when did he die ? 
He was not married at Clayhanger 

The Warren, Burnham, Somerset. 

ANATHEMA CUP. According to Cooper's 
4 Ath. Cant.,' Thos. Langton who died in 
1500-1 gave to Pembroke Hall a cup of 
silver gilt, weighing 67 ounces, commonly 
called the Anathema cup. What originated 
the name ? M.A. 

GARNHAM FAMILY. I should be glad to 

be told of any families of Garnham, in 

Suffolk or elsewhere, using arms and crest, 

&nd to obtain the heraldic description of these. 


Essex Lodge, Ewell. 

REFERENCE WANTED. Wordsworth speaks some- 
where of a "snow-white church." Quotation and 
.reference wanted. J T. F. 

particularly glad to know the author of the fol- 
lowing fine verses : 
If with pleasure you are viewing any work a man 

is doing, 

If you like him, or you love him, tell him now ; 
Don't withhold your approbation till the parson 

makes oration, 
And he lies with snowy lilies o'er his brow. 

If he earns your praise, bestow it ; if you like him, 

let him know it : 

Let the words of true encouragement be said ; 
Do not wait till life is over, and he's underneath 

the clover, 

For he cannot read his tombstone when he's 

Little Park, Enfield, Middlesex. 


(12 S. vi. 36.) 

MR. A. CARRINGTON states, from a reference 
to the Northam parish register, that " Prince 
Charles was at Appledore July 10, 1645," and 
asks whether his movements earlier in that 
year are known and recorded. 

May I, as one who has taken a great deal of 
interest in the movements in the west of 
England of Charles II. both as prince and 
(de jure) king and who has recorded some 
of these in the pages of 'N. & Q.,'* refer 
your correspondent to a paper of mine, 
entitled ' Charles II. in the Channel Islands,' 
which I read at a meeting of the Dorset 
Natural History and Antiquarian Field 
Club at Lyme Regis on Sept. 13, 1904, and 
which is printed in the Society's Proceedings 
for that year (vol. xxv., p. 172) ? This paper 
was founded on Dr. S. Elliott Hoskins's very 
interesting work bearing the same title and 
published in two vols. in 1854 which was 
based on the MS. ' Journal ' of John 
Chevalier, a contemporary chronicler of 
remarkable events occurring in Jersey during 
the Civil Wars from about the commence- 
ment of 1643 to February, 1650. This 
Journal, written in French, contains many 
transcripts from original documents. Dr. 
Hoskins also largely refers to the Clarendon 
State Papers, and the Clarendon MSS. in the 
Bodleian Library, together with French and 
other authorities and sources. So that we 
are provided with a long and interesting 
account of Charles's two visits to Jersey and 
of the events which led up to them. 

See particularly 9 S. x. 141 (1902). 

12 S. VI. APRIL 24, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


As Dr. Hoskins's work is now scarce and 
his authorities are somewhat difficult of 
^access, perhaps MB. CABBINGTON will be 
content to accept what I took from them 
as the basis of my paper (itself also, perhaps, 
>not very readily accessible) relative to the 
Prince's movements in the earlier part of 
1645. In the spring of that year Charles I. 
determined to send his eldest son into the 
west, partly from the idea of giving the 
Prince some active work on his own initiative 
to do, and partly owing to the fears he enter- 
tained for his safety, and to the threatening 
aspect of his own affairs evinced by the 
'.active preparations being made for war by 
the Commons in case the negotiations for 
peace then pending were not satisfactorily 
concluded. On Mar. 5 the royal father and 
:son (a boy not yet 16) " parted never to 
meet again." The Prince, escorted by 
300 horse, and attended, amongst others, by 
Lords Capel, Hopton, and Culpepper, set out 
for Bristol, and lodged, the first night after 
leaving Oxford, at Farringdon, the next day 
'with the garrison at Devizes, and on the 
third reached Bath, where the Prince stayed 
two or three days, and on arriving at Bristol 
^kt once set up his little court. It would 
appear that he must have had a narrow 
escape of being captured, for on the 17th of 
the same month we find that Colonel Sir 
James Long, High Sheriff of Wilts for the 
King, returning from the convoy of the 
Prince to Bristol was set upon by a party of 
"Waller's army at Devizes, and forty of his 
men killed, many prisoners being also taken. 

As the plague was then raging in Bristol 
150 dying in a week the Prince left for 
Bridgwater on April 23. Here he came 
under the somewhat baneful influence of his 
old nurse, Mrs. Wyndham Anne, daughter 
-of Thomas Gerard of Trent, whose husband, 
Colonel Wyndham, was Governor of the 
town. Presumably this was the same 
Anne Wyndham, wife of Colonel Francis 
Wyndham of Trent, to whom Charles 
II. went for shelter in September, 1651, 
when trying to escape to France after 
the disastrous battle of Worcester in that 
month.* She was the author of the 
"' Claustrum Regale Reseratum,' containing 
an account of " The King's Concealment at 
Trent," one of the most interesting of all 
the Boscobel Tracts which began to be 
published soon after the Restoration in 1660. 
This lady was most disdainful both of the 

* See my paper in the Dorset Field Club's 
Proceedings, ' Charles II. in Dorset,' vol. viii., p. 9 

King and of his Council. Letters from the 
King having arrived forbidding his going 
further westward, the Prince returned thence 
to Bristol a week later. 

The plague still increasing at Bristol, 
however, the Prince arranged to go to 
Barnstaple in North Devon, and with this 
intention reached Wells on June 22, receiving 
there a deputation of 5,000 or 6,000 " club 
men," who were dissatisfied with the 
excesses of the royal soldiery. Barnstaple 
was at length safely reached. Whilst there 
the news of the battle of Naseby (June 14, 
1645) having been fought and lost reached 
the Prince, and after the subsequent 
surrender of Bridgwater on July 22 to 
Fairfax, it was thought advisable to retire 
further, so that later in that month the 
royal fugitive, as he had then almost 
become, reached Launceston in Cornwall. 
Hence, after many vicissitudes, he moved to 
the Scilly Islands, and later to Jersey, in the 
following April (1646). 

MB. CABRINGTON gives the date at which 
he states, from the entry in the Northam 
registers, Charles to have been at Appledore 
as July 10, 1645. There is no evidence, so 
far as I can see, that Charles was ever in the 
neighbourhood of Barnstaple at any other 
period than that mentioned above, namely, 
from the latter part of June to the latter 
part of July. Appledore is, I believe, in the 
neighbourhood of Torrington as well as of 
.Barnstaple ; but the battle of Torrington 
in which the Prince's army was defeated and 
dispersed and the royalist cause in the west 
received its death wound was not fought 
until the 15th of the following February, 
long after he had left Barnstaple for the 
south. As undoubtedly Prince Charles did 
stay some few weeks at Barnstaple " a 
pleasant town in the north of Devonshire," 
and with which, we hear, he was " much 
delighted " and this period would cover 
the date in the Northam registers -he may, 
of course, have paid a visit to Appledore 
during that time. It would be interesting 
to know if the entry in the register is a 
contemporary one or a later interpolation. 

It was during his stay at Barnstaple that 
if we believe Clarendon the Prince appears 
to have been exposed to that risk of " moral 
contamination " and which in later years 
was so pronounced a feature in his character 
which led his council, after inquiry, on the 
principle that " evil communications corrupt 
good manners," to banish from the court and 
the precincts of the town a certain young 
fellow named Wheeler, who, although not 



in any relation of service to the Prince, had 
ventured to obtrude his company too boldly 
upon his notice. But it was not long before 
Charles found a worthier object of attention 
in the very serious state of affairs in the 
south and west, which necessitated his 
removal to Jersey in the following April, and 
his eventual arrival in France, thus furnishing 
a tfery fitting prelude to what happened some 
five and a half years later. 

J. S. UDAL, F.S.A. 

Before his visit to Appledore, Devon, 
on July 10, 1645, Prince Charles (who 
was then about 14 years old) was with the 
Royalist forces in Somerset and Devon. 
He appears to have visited Bath, Dunster 
Castle, and Barnstaple, and no doubt went 
from the latter place to Appledore. His 
movements may be gathered from letters in 
the Portland MSS. (Hist. MSS. Comn. Repts.). 
On May 29, 1645, the Prince wrote a letter 
from Bath to George, Lord Goring, desiring 
him to exchange 500 muskets lately sent 
from Bristol to his army (p. 226). On 
June 15, 1645 the day following King 
Charles's defeat at Naseby the Prince of 
Wales wrote to Goring from Barnstaple : 

" During our late stay at Dunster Castle we 
received many great complaints from the in- 
habitants of those parts of the insolencies and 
injuries they undergo by officers and soldiers who 
pretend to be under your Lordship's command, 
&c." P. 227. 

On June 23, 1645, the Prince again wrote to 
Goring from Barnstaple : 

" We send herewith Sir Richard Greenvile, that 
by his presence the soldiers under his command 
may be more easily gathered up and kept to- 
gether. We have directed him to receive orders 
from you, &c." P. 230. 

The Prince appears to have held a council of 
war at Barnstaple. Reference to this is 
made in a letter from Lord Digby to Lord 
Goring, dated July 4, 1645, written partly in 
cipher : 

" His Highness will also have acquainted you 
with the resolutions taken at Barnstaple by the 
unanimous opinion of the Prince's Coi ncil there, 
in pursuance of which, that no time n ight be lost, 
orders were sent over to be instantly dispersed, 
&c." P. 231. 

On July 10, 1645 the day on which Prince 
Charles was at Appledore Fairfax defeated 
Goring at Langport in Somerset, and on 
July 23 captured Bridgwater after a short 
siege. These events upset all the plans of 
King Charles and ruined the Royalist pro- 
jects in the West of England. The King 
wrote to the Prince of Wales from Brecknock 
on Aug. 5, 1645, that : " Whensoever you 
find yourself in apparent danger of falling 

into the rebels' hands that you convey 
yourself into France " (' Clarendon,' iv. 83 p 
Phillip's ' Civil War in Wales,' i. 315). 

G. H. W- 

A full account of Prince Charles's 
movements is given in R. W. Cotton's 
' Barnstaple during the Civil War,' and 
details of his stay at Barnstaple in a paper 
by the Rev. J. F. Chanter in the Trans- 
actions of the Devonshire Association, 1917. 

HALHED FAMILY (12 S. iii.255). Daltpn's 
' George I.'s Army,' vol. i., p. 331, mentions 
one of this family, namely, Nathaniel 
Halhed (sic), who was commissioned cornet 
to the Colonel's Own Troop in Major-General 
William Evans's (4th) Regiment of Dragoons 
April 6, 1715, and lieutenant in the same 
May 8, 1722. Dalton, however, was wrong 
in saying (ibid., vol. ii., p. 212) that he went 
on half -pay in 1729, as it was not until 
Mar. 25, 1731, that he exchanged to half-pay 
of 3s. per diem of lieutenant of the Hon_ 
William Kerr's (7th) Dragoons, which he was 
still drawing in 1740, according to the Half- 
pay List dated Jan. 31, 1740, when his age 
was given as 47, and his name was spelt 

Other minor notices are, from The Gent. 
Mag. : 

Died Jan. 17, 1731, Nathaniel Halhead,. 
Esq., a pattern-drawer in Cornhill and 

Married, Feb. 15, 1748, Wm. Ivat, Esq., to 
Miss Halhed of Petersham, Surrey. 

Died Feb. 14, 1778, Robert Halhead, Esq., 
in Abingdon Buildings, Westminster. 

Died "lately" (before October, 1783), at 
Hampstead, Mrs. Halhed, wife of Wm. Hal- 
hed, Esq., of Great George Street. 

Married, Feb. 7, 1785, at Bath, William 
Halhead, Esq., of Great George Street, 
Westminster, to Mrs. Maskeline of Bath. 

Died, Sept. 30, 1786, William Halhed,. 
Esq., a Director of the Bank of England. 

Died, May 29, 1792, Belinda Halhed at 
Twickenham. W. R. WILLIAMS. 

JOHN CARPENTER (12 S. ii. 370). This 
man became cornet in the 1st Dragoon 
Guards Feb. 11, 1802, and lieutenant Feb. 18, 
1804, but left the next year. He married in 
March, 1797, Teresa, second daughter of 
G. F. Heneage, whose eldest daughter Mary 
Anne Winifred was married the same month 
to Francis Aicken, who was made cornet 
April 3, 1801, and lieutenant Feb. 14, 1805,. 
in the same regiment. W. R WILLIAMS. 

12 S. VI. APRIL 24, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


306). A Blackwell Hall Factor was a person 
holding a " rest," or stand, in Blackwell 
Hall, entitling him to act as an agent for 
the woollen manufacturers. The Hall was 
situated on the eastern side of Guildhall 
Yard, and the western side of Basinghall 
Street close to the present Wool Exchange 
and was the warehouse and market place 
for the storage and sale of all sorts of woollen 
fabrics. Blackwell Hall was established as 
the common market for woollen goods from 
all parts of the kingdom by an ordinance of 
21st Richard II., and this ordinance was 
confirmed by an Act of Common Council, 
Aug. 8, 1516, with the addition that Black- 
well Hall was the only market for such 
woollen cloths, and that none were to be 
sold in London unless the said cloths were 
first brought to the Hall and there bought 
and sold, heavy penalties being enacted 
against any infringement. 


116 Arran Road, Catford, S.E.6. 

THE REV. AARON BAKER (7 S. xii. 407 ; 
12 S. vi. 75, 139). Aaron Baker (4) men- 
tioned at ante, p. 75, who was baptized 
July 9, 1711, entered Winchester College 
from Oxford in 1724 and was superannuated 
in 1729 (Kirby, ' Winchester Scholars,' 

GRAFTON. OXON (12 S. v. 320; vi. 51). 
The second part of the query has not been 
answered. My grandfather's great-grand- 
father John Wainewright married (appar- 
ently about the year 1718) Mary, only 
daughter of Richard Abell, and Elizabeth 
(nee Marner) his wife. The manor of 
Grafton descended to Mary Wainewright on 
the death of her parents. John Waine- 
wright died Oct. 8, 1760, and his son Robert 
succeeded to the manor. Robert died 
Feb. 3, 1800, and his eldest son Robert 
succeeded. This Robert died unmarried 
July 18, 1841, and left the manor to his 
brother Arnold, who held a Court Leet at 
the Manor House in 1852. I do not know 
when the manor was sold, but I believe 
that it now belongs to the Dean and Chapter 
of Christ Church, Oxford, and presumably 
they hold all the title-deeds. Arnold Waine- 
wright died Dec. 8, 1855. John andj the 
two Roberts were all sworn clerks in the 
Six Clerks' Office in the High Court of 

The manor of Grafton is about two miles 
south-east of Langford, Oxfordshire. 


(12 S. vi. 89). Information about Sir Henry 
Gary after the Restoration is obtainable from 
the Calendars of State Papers (Domestic), 
In 1663/4 he was writing from Exeter, and' 
before Sept. 14, 1666, he was dead, leaving a 
widow, Martha. M. 

SLANG TERMS (12 S. v. 294). As the 
writer of ' Letters from England ' was Robert 
Southey, there was at least no " Spanish - 
imagination " in his statements. 

R. S. B. 

THE HAWKHURST GANG (12 S. vi. 67). 
A picturesque account of this lawless band 
of " Free Traders," among whose exploits 
were the abduction of a Customs House 
officer from Shoreham in 1741 and the murder 
of William Galley, another Customs officer, 
in 1748, will be found in Mr. C. G. Harper's 
entertaining book, ' The Smugglers.' 

There is also a lengthy account of the 
gang in 

" Reminiscences of Smugglers and Smuggling 
being the substance of a Lecture delivered at the 
Music Hall, Hastings. By John Banks. London 
[For the Author] John Camden Hotten, 74 and 75 
Piccadilly," n.d. 

The murder of Galley led to the gang's 
undoing and twenty-two of them were 
hanged together in 1749. 


Robertsbridge, Sussex. 

This band of smugglers carried on business 
in Kent and Sussex in the middle of the 
eighteenth century. Their leader was Capt. 
Kingsmill, but there is little doubt that they 
were financed by sleeping partners who were 
persons of good social position, and one of 
these may have been the Arthur Gray who 
built the mansion at Seacock's Heath. The 
Hawkhurst Gang were insolent and domineer- 
ing and so terrorized the inhabitants of the 
Weald that in self-defence they organized a 
volunteer force called the Goudhurst Band 
of Militia. In 1746 a pitched battle took 
place between the militia and the smugglers, 
in which three of the latter were killed. In 
1747 the Hawkhurst Gang broke into the 
Poole Custom House and recaptured 2 tons 
of tea and 39 casks of spirits, the cargo of a 
smuggling boat which had been seized by the 
Revenue Authorities. In the course of this 
affair two persons were murdered by the - 
smugglers. Kingsmill and his lieutenant 
Farrell were arrested, through the treachery 
of a comrade, found guilty and executed at 
Newgate. Their bodies were gibbeted at 
Horsmonden and Goudhurst respectively,. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. APRIL 24, 1920. 

and 1 that was the end of the Hawkhurst 

G. P. R. James in ' The Smuggler ' 
describes the chief exploits of the Hawkhurst 
gang (under the name of " Ramley's gang "), 
including the smugglers' siege of Goudhurst 
-Church, which was used as a fort by the 
militia. Traditions of smuggling days and 
smuggling ways abound in the neighbourhood 

of Cranbrook. My venerable mother-in-law 
(aged 91) remembers, as a girl, an old man at 
'Tenterden who in his early days had been an 
.active smuggler. He showed her a cun- 
ningly contrived " hide " under the floor of 
his cottage where he used to conceal duty- 
free goods and told her in all sincerity, for 
he was a pious man that when hard pressed 
by the Revenue riding officers (he was never 

caught) he used to repeat the lines : 

O magnify the Lord with me, 

With me exalt His name, 
When in distress to Him I called 

He to my rescue came. 

Rarely, I imagine, have Tate and Brady's 
familiar lines been uttered under stranger 

conditions ! J. B. TWYCROSS. 

10 Holmewood Road, Brixton Hill, S.W.2. 

Hawkhurst is a village in Kent, and was 
the headquarters of one of the most cele- 
brated of the gangs of smugglers who carried 
on the trade about the middle of the 

eighteenth century, which may be called the 
" physical force " or " direct action " period 
of smuggling, since the smugglers did not 
find it necessary to resort to the ingenious 
devices of later days, but simply terrorized 
such of the unfortunate Customs officers as 
were not amenable to bribery. The gang 
was ultimately suppressed, and several of 
the leaders hanged. (See ' Smuggling Days 
and Smuggling Ways,' by Commander the 
Hon. H. N. Shore, Cassell & Co., 1892.) I 
think that Commander Shore (see p. 48 n.) 
has confused Arthur Gray with his brother 
William, another prominent member of the 
gang. It appears from the Sessions Papers 
that Arthur Gray was sentenced to death, 
and, I suppose, he was hanged in due course. 
I may add that the Hawkhurst Gang did not 
confine themselves to smuggling, but com- 

>mitted so many highway robberies and other 
outrages that they set local feeling against 
them, and this, no doubt, made their sup- 

pression more easy. C. L. S. 

The Hawkhurst gang was a notorious 

band of smugglers who were a terror for 

-some years to the inhabitants of Kent and 

-Sussex, where they operated from 1744 to 

1747. In December, 1744, the gang raided 

the Custom House at Shoreham, carried off 
the staff, whipped them almost to death, and 
clapped them on a vessel and sent them to 
France. In 1747 the gang, under its leader 
Kingsmill, attacked the village of Goudhucst, 
Kent, whose inhabitants had formed itself 
into the " Goudhurst Band of Militia." The 
gang was beaten off with several killed and 
wounded. The Gentleman's Magazine for 
April, 1747, contains an account of the 
affair. Kingsmill shortly afterwards, with 
thirty other desperadoes, stormed the 
Custom House at Poole and captured a large 
quantity of tea. A reward was offered for 
their apprehension and one named Diamond 
was arrested through the information of 
Daniel Chater, a shoemaker. Chater and a 
Customs officer named Galley were pro- 
ceeding to Chichester when they fell into the 
hands of the gang, who, after brutally ill- 
using them, murdered them in a cruel and 
inhuman manner. Galley was buried in a 
sandpit and Chater's body flung down a well. 
Most of the smugglers were afterwards 
captured and executed and the Hawkhurst 
gang broken up. For accounts of them set 
' King's Cutters and Smugglers,' chap. v.. 
by E. K. Chatterton, and 'The King's 
Customs,' by Atton and Holland, vol. i, 
pp. 212-6. G. H. W. 

v. 318). The words and music of this carol 
will be found given in ' English Folk-Song 
and Dance,' pp. 113-6 (Camb. Univ. Press, 
1915). I am inclined to think that internal 
evidence points to a mediaeval origin. The 
author of the above work writes : 

" But a carol collected in 1833 from a peasant 
in West Cornwall and included in William Sandys' 
collection is the most interesting proof I have yet 
found of the association between dancing and the 
Christian religion. Nothing more is known of 
the carol in spite of many inquiries which are 
still being pursued .... Mr. G. B. S. Mead thinks 
this carol was originally sung by the mediaeval 
minstrels, jongleurs, and troubadours, who are 
said to have invented the word carol, meaning a 
dance in which the performers moved slowly in a 
circle, singing as they went. The troubadours are 
responsible for the preservation of many fragments 
of old mystery plays, and this carol is probably 
one such fragment, and as such is a link between 
the definitely pagan folk-dance and through the 
Christian Church to those alive in England 

Howth, co. Dublin. 

The carol beginning : " To-morrow shall be 
my dancing day " is printed in ' Christmas- 
tide,' by William Sandys, F.S.A. (published 
in 1852 by John Russell Smith). It is no. 29 
in his list of carols. Under no. 34 (which is 

12 S. VI. APRIL 24, 1920:] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

"Hark! the Herald Angels Sing') he has 
this note : " This and the sixteen preceding 
are from manuscript copies, several of which 
are also printed as broadsides." It would 
seem from this note that Sandys did not 
know the author or source of any of these 
seventeen carols. If this is so, it is singular 
that he shou'd not have been aware that 
Charles Wesley was the author of ' Hark ! the 
Herald Angels Sing.' 

Westwood, Clitheroe. 

B s CONINGSBY OF SALOP (12 S. vi. 64). 
H s is probably Ricardus. Sir Richard 
Ooningsby, who belonged to the family of 
Niend Solers, Salop, and was Gentleman 
Usher to King James I., is mentioned in 
* Obituary Notices of the English Benedictine 
Nuns of Ghent ' (Catholic Record Society, 
vol. xix., at pp. 64-5) : 

" Anno 1657 on the 23 of march Our Most 
venerable Dear Dame Mary Ignatia most happily 
Departed this life in the 18 year of her profession, 
and the 80 of her age. . . .Dame Mary Ignatia In 
Baptism Call'd Margarit, Daughter to Eobert 
Corham Gentleman in Hampshire and widdow to 
Sir Richard Coninsby in his life and after his 
Death, did a world of good Deeds," &c. 

" And though she had been in its [i.e., the 
world's] high esteem, her husband and Sr. Richard 
Coningsby being a courtiour and in a noble office 
under King James, and she much feavour'd in a 
particular manner by him, who said that after her 
knight's Death he would be her protector ; and 
so she found it. as long as the said King James 
liiv'd, having been cause I mean a Chief Instru- 
ment of Allmighty God to obtain her husband's 
conversion, at Last suffring much loss of her 
temporall estate she cast her care on God," &c. 

Barbara, wife of Robert Corham of 
" Heckefeild," occurs among the Hampshire 
recusants in the Recusant Roll of 1592-3 
<Cath. Rec. Soc., vol. xviii., at p. 288). 

Sir Richard Coningsby was probably 
about twenty years older than Francis 
Beaumont. It is remarkable that the 1623 
pedigree (Harl. Soc. Publ., xxviii. 131) 
mentions only his marriage to a Berkshire 
Barker. Margaret Corham must have been 
his second wife. He seems to have had no 

, I would suggest that the signature may 
be Rieus, the contracted form of Ricardus 
-or Richard. There was a family of Coningsby 
of Niend Solers, or Nenne Solers, in Shrop- 
shire (afterwards of Hereford), whose pedi- 
gree is given in the Visitation of Shropshire, 
1623, published by the Harleian Society in 
1889. A Richard Coningsby of this family, 
though his grandfather had apparently 
migrated to Hereford, was Gentleman Usher 

to James I. His uncle or step-uncle, 
another Richard, who, however, is described 
as of Harksteed in Suffolk, had a son 
Beaumont Coningsby ; it may be his name 
which appears in the book, and, of course, he 
may have been called after the poet as 
there is no other Beaumont in the pedigree 
to account for him. 


SONG : ' THE SPADE ' (12 S. vi. 90). This 
song, with its refrain beginning : 
Here's to the spade and the man who can use it 
A fig for your lord with his soft silken hand 

appeared in a song-book issued by the 
National Agricultural Labourers' Union 
(Joseph Arch's movement) about 1872. I 
believe its writer was the late Mr. Howard 
Evans, author of ' Our Old Nobility,' con- 
tributor to The Labourers' Chronicle, and 
afterwards editor of the London Echo. Mr. 
Evans wrote the majority of the songs in this 
little book, of which 120,000 copies were 
circulated. My difficulty is that he says in 
his 'Radical Fight of Forty Years ' (1909) 
that it contained " a few songs by other 
writers." He quotes several of the songs 
which he wrote for the song-book, but not 
this one. This may give MB. HARRIS a hint. 

(12 S. vi. 111). This name has nothing to do 
with a spear, a spoon, a spade, or any other 
weapon or implement. It is the name of a 
village and parish in Berwickshire, and the 
earliest record of its use as a territorial 
surname occurs in a charter c. 1171, wherein 
Richard or Richer de Gordon grants certain 
lands to the monks of Kelso and to the 
church of St. Michael "in his town of 

Sixth or seventh in descent from Richard 
came Sir Adam de Gordon, who did homage 
to Edward I. at Elgin on July 28, 1296; 
but he afterwards joined Robert, King of 
Scots, either jxist before or just after the 
battle of Bannockburn in 1314. In 1320 
King Robert appointed him ambassador to 
convey to Pope John XXII. the defiant 
letter of the Scottish barons. It is believed 
that it was after his return from that mission 
that Sir Adam received a grant of the lands 
of StrathbogieinAberdeenshire,but the writ 
is not extant, and is known only through 
being cited in a charter by David II. This 
is the earliest record of the Gordons as 
landowners in the north of Scotland, though 
Sir Adam's presence at Elgin m 129( 



suggests that he had some possession in the 
district at that time. It may be noted that 
in migrating from Tweeddale to Aberdeen- 
shire the Gordons carried with them the 
name of Huntly, a hamlet in Gordon parish, 
and bestowed it upon the town and parish 
which now bear it in Strathbogie. It 
furnished a title to the earldom in 1445 and 
the marquisate in 1599. 


The origin of the name Gordon was fully 
discussed in ' N. & Q.' for 1902. 


MRS. GORDON, NOVELIST (12 S. vi. 38, 93). 
In case any librarian follows MR. SPARKE'S 
suggestion let me say that Margaret Maria 
Brewster did not marry John Gordon of 
Pitlurg until 1860, whereas Mrs. Gordon 
wrote ' The Fortunes of the Falconars ' in 
1844. I supposed at one time that Mrs. 
Gordon was the daughter and biographer of 
Christopher North and the wife of Sheriff 
John Thomson Gordon (1815-65), whom she 
married in 1837. She dedicates one of her 
books to "Delta " and we know that Moir 
was a great friend of Wilson, naming his son 
John after him. But I learn from Chris- 
topher's grand-daughter that her aunt never 
wrote novels. J. M. BULLOCH. 

37 Bedford Square, W.C.I. 

The Mrs. Gordon referred to by MR. 
ARCHIBALD SPARKE as a daughter of Sir 
David Brewster appears to be a different 
person from the lady inquired for. In 
addition to the novels (1844-54) enumerated 
ante, p. 38, the British Museum Catalogue 
credits her with another, ' Three Nights in a 
Lifetime,' and a volume of poems, ' Man and 
the animals,' but with nothing more. 

Her namesake is catalogued at the British 
Museum as Brewster, afterwards Gordon, 
Margaret Maria, who was born about 1820. 
Her literary activity covered from 1855 to 
1896, and included "lives of her father, her 
husband, and Mr. Grant of Arndilly. Much 
of her writing was of a didactic and homiletic 
character, e.g., 'The Word of the World,' 
' Sanctification by Faith,' ' Our Daughters,' 
an account of the Y.W.C.A. Her 'Little 
Millie and her Four Places,' addressed to 
young servants, ' The Motherless Boy,' and 
' Sunbeams in the Cottage ' are merely short 
tales, but her ' Lady Elinor Mordaunt ' has 
more pretension and is described as fiction. 

Her mother was the youngest daughter of 
"Ossiaii Macpherson." I do not find any 
x ecord of her death. N. W. HILL. 

(12 S. vi. 111). This was the Third Troop, 
of Horse Guards, raised in 1660, and dis- 
banded, for economy, on Dec. 24, 1746.. 
Dainel Southam must have been a trooper 
or non-commissioned officer, as I have a list 
of the officers at this date, and his name is 
not among them, nor in Dalton's earlier lists. 
I do not suppose the troopers' names for 
that period have been preserved, but the 
Army List for 1761 contains the names of 
107 "Superannuated Gent, of 4th Troop of 
Horse-Guards, at 12Z. 10s. per Ann." (the 
3rd and 4th Troops having been disbanded 
the same day). From Chamberlayne's 
'Present State of Great Britain,' 1727, it 
appears that each of the four Troops of" 
Horse Guards consisted of " 181 Gentlemen, 
Officers included," the pay of the " One- 
Hundred and Fifty-six private Gentlemen, 
at 4s. each Per Diem " amounting to 31Z. 4s. 
Cannon's 'Historical Record of the 3rd 
Light Dragoons ' states that Thomas Browne 
of Kirkbotham, Yorks, a private in that 
regiment, recovered its standard after the- 
cornet carrying it had been wounded, and 
was himself severely wounded in doing so, 
for which piece of " gallantry he was pro- 
moted to the post of a private gentleman in 
the Life Guards ; an appointment which, at 
that time, was usually obtained by pur- 
chase." Between 1740 and 1760 several' 
troopers of the Horse Guards were amongst 
the number of non-commissioned officers 
and were recommended for commissions in 
the army, for good service or gallantry, but 
they were, of course, posted to other 
regiments. W. R. WILLIAMS. 

GROSVENOR PLACE (12 S. vi. 109). MR. 
CHARLES GATTY will, I think, find all the 
information he can wish for in a most 
interesting article that was published in 
The Builder of July 6, 1901, and following 
weeks, on the subject of the origin and 
growth of the streets and squares on the 
south and west of Hyde Park Corner at the 
end of the eighteenth and beginning of the 
nineteenth centuries. I do not think that 
he would find much difficulty in procuring a 
copy although it was published so long ago 

Grosvenor Place was originally a row of 
houses, overlooking Buckingham Palace 
Gardens, built in 1767 during the Grenville 
administration. When George III. was 
adding a portion of the Green Park to the 
new garden at Buckingham House the 
fields on the opposite side of the road were 

12 s. vi. AP**L 24,i92o.j NOTES AND QUERIES. 


tto be sold for 20,000/. This sum Grenville 
refused to issue from the Treasury. The 
Aground was consequently sold to builders, 
-and a new row of houses, overlooking the 
king in his private walks, was erected, to his 
great annoyance (see Walpole's ' George III.,' 
vol. iii., p. 4). At the Hyde Park end of 
Crosvenor Place was Tattersall's well-known 

establishment ; near the middle were the 
Lock Hospital and Chapel and a Hospital 
:for Soldiers. In the course of the seventies 

and eighties Grosvenor Place was entirely 
re-modelled, the hospitals having long 
previously been removed. The public way 
-was extended to Victoria Station and made 
of uniform width throughout, and the row of 
old-fashioned, moderate-sized dwelling- 
houses gave place to a series of large and 
:stately French Renaissance mansions. 

I should doubt there ever having been any 
need for legislative enactments in connexion 
with these structural changes. 


vi. 90). This well-known statue of Antonin 
Mercie (1845-1916) represents a French 
soldier falling in action while an Alsatian 
girl standing behind him seizes his rifle. It 
was carved in 1882 in memory of the 
successful defence of Belfort in 1870-71. 
The original is at Belfort, but a copy in 
marble stands in the central avenue between 
the Arc du Carrousel and the Rue des 
Tuileries in Paris. 


33PARKE also thanked for replies.] 

.APRILANTI " (12 S. vi. 109). The Italian 
St. Swithin's Day is April 3. Pietro 
Fanfani in his ' Vocabolario della Lingua 
Italiana ' quotes the proverb : " Terzo di 
aprilante, quaranta di durante," which he 
.interprets: "Come e il terzo di aprile, cosi 
sono i seguenti quaranta giorni. " However, 
I cannot trace any four saints commemorated 
on April 3. 

On April 14 the Mass and Office of 
'St. Justinus is said throughout the Catholic 
Church, with commemoration of SS. Tibur- 
tius, Valerianus, and Maximus. 


vi. 64). We have in our library a copy of 
"* The Clerical Directory : a Biographical and 
Statistical Book of Reference for Facts 
relating to the Clergy and the Church,' 

compiled by the conductors of The Clerical 
Journal, ] 858, John Crockford, London. It 
appears to have had a few incomplete 
predecessors, but in its preface assumes the 
position of a " complete " work. There had 
been lists of clergy issued as supplements to 
The Clerical Journal previous to 1858, of 
which there are several included in " Crock- 
ford's " of 1858, but whether a full list had 
ever been published I do not know. 

Acting Secretary and Librarian. 
Leeds Church Institute. 

PEWTER SNUFFERS (12 S. vi. 67). Al- 
though Pepys frequently mentions the 
purchase of pewter articles (vide Mar. 5, 
1661 : " To the Pewterers, to buy a poore's 
box, to put my forfeits in, upon breach of my 
late vows "), I scarcely think that the 
" new fashioned case " to contain them was 
meant to imply that the snuffers themselves 
were made of pewter. If so, as is the case 
sometimes with antique silver snuffers, 
probably the handles only were of pewter. 
It is inconceivable that pewter could be 
satisfactorily adapted with a cutting edge for 
such a purpose as trimming candle-wicks. 
The case would probably be made of shagreen 
(or shark's skin). 

Pepys' s admiration of cases is previously 
recorded, April 27, 1661-62 : 

" Visited the Mayor [Portsmouth] Mr. Timbrell, 
our anchor Smith, who showed us the present 
they have for the queen ; which is a salt cellar of 
silver, the walls christall, with 4 Eagles & 4 grey- 
hounds standing up at the top to bear up a dish ; 
which indeed is one of the neatest pieces of plate 
that I ever saw, and the case is very pretty, also." 

If the snuffers were of pewter it would 
scarcely warrant their having an expensive 
case to contain them. I am inclined to 
think they would be made of silver. 


vi. 37). This word is the old-fashioned 
German name for a telescope. It is often 
used by Alpine writers in the first half of the 
nineteenth century. Its use as a Christian 
name therafore points to the German 
descent of the family iising it, "and suggests 
some astronomical associations of such 
families. W. A. B. C. 

' Hocus Pocus ' : ' A RICH GIFT ' (12 S. 
vi. 41). From the British Museum Cata- 
logue I gather that the book ' Hocus Pocus ' 
was first published in 1651, under the title 
of ' A Rich Cabinet with Variety of Inven- 


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tions,' and editions quickly followed until 
c. 1715, when one appeared with the title 
' Hocus Pocus ; or, A Rich Cabinet of 
Legerdemain Curiosities, &c.,' which the 
Catalogue describes as another edition of 
the foregoing. ARCHIBALD SPARKE. 

MASTER GUNNER (12 S. v. 153, 212, 277 ; 
vi. 22). I have in my possession a demy 8vo 
pamphlet of 29 pages, intituled ' Succession 
List (annotated] of the Master- Gunners of 
England,' by Major R. H. Murdock, R.A., 
Woolwich, 1892. This is a valuable treatise 
on the subject and is based on original 
research among Exchequer receipts, &c., 
Treasury issues, " Garde-robe " accounts, 
parchment rolls, Rymer's ' Foedera,' Royal 
and Ordnance Warrants, the Harleian and 
Cleaveland MSS., regimental histories, &c. 
It is reprinted from Proceedings Royal 
Artillery Institution, nos. 5 and 6, vol. xix. 

The following epitaph is from the church- 
yard at Minster, Sheppey (near the south 
door of the church) : 

. . . .Henry WORTH, Master gunner, died 1779, 
Aug. 26, aged 57. 

Who'er thou art if here by Wisdom led 
To view the silent mansions of the dead 
To search for Truth from Life's last mournful page 
Where malice stings not nor where slanders rage 
Bead on No bombast swells these friendly lines 
Here truth unhonoured and unvarnished shines 
Where o'er yon sod an envious nettle creeps 
From care escaped an honest gunner sleeps 
As on he travelled to life's sorrowing end 
Distress for ever claimed him as a Friend 
Orphan and widow were alike his care 
He gave with pleasure all he had to spare 
Deep in the earth his carcase lies entombed 
With love and grog for him had honeycombed 
His match now burnt expended all his priming 
He left the world and us without e'er whining 
.Testing apart retired from wind and weather 
Virtue and WORTH are laid asleep together. 


"TEAPOY" (12 S. vi. 109). Your corre- 
spondent does not seem to know the deriva- 
tion of this word. It is a corruption of an 
Indian word which means three feet or three 
legs. It has nothing to do with tea, and the 
three-legged table is not used specially as a 
receptacle for tea. I have never heard the 
word "teapoy" applied to any porcelain 
article, but I am not a collector of ceramics. 
A. M. B. IRWIN. 

49 Ailesbury Koad, Dublin. 

SIR EDWARD PAGET (12 S. v. 126 ; vi. 78). 
I have to thank MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE 
for his reply to riy nuery. Since asking it I 
have ascertained that there is at Queen's 

House, Colombo, a picture of Sir Edwardb 
Paget which was " copied by Mr. Dorofielck 
Hardy from an original by Sir Thomas 
Lawrence in the possession of the Marquis of 
Anglesey at Beau Desert." The portrait, 
in * The Paget Papers ' is probably repro- 
duced from this painting. 


"CATHOLIC" (12 S. vi. 12, 113). Corre- 
spondents at the last reference are in 
agreement that Ignatius is the earliest writer 
Soiown to us who applies the term >] Ka#oAi*a^ 

A770-ta, to the Christian Church. As 
what Ignatius really said is not mentioned 
by any of your correspondents, it may be of 
assistance if the quotation is given. It 
occurs midway in the epistle to the 
Smyrnseans, and was written from Troas, on 
the journey to his martyrdom at Rome under 
Trajan, at a date uncertain, but probably 
A.D. 110. It must be remembered that in- 
all his epistles, Ignatius is remarkable for the 
emphasis with which he extols the episcopal 
office. The sentence in the epistle reads : 
" Wheresoever the bishop shall appear, there- 
let the people also be : as where Jesus Christ 
is, there is the Catholic Chureh." 


116 Arran Road, S.E.6. 

The view indirectly described in Mr. Tolle- 
mache's foot-note to ' Safe Studies ' is 
plainly indicated in his ' Recollections of 
Pattison ' ('Stones of Stumbling,' p. 191), 
where we are told that in Benthamite circles 
Grote was called the "rigid Atheist." 

Theodorus, the philosopher of the Cyrenaic- 
school (c. 300 B.C.) was known as <x#eos 


One of the Cyrenaic school of philosophers 
(founded by Aristippus, a disciple of 
Socrates), who held utilitarian as opposed' 
to ethical and idealistic views of morals, 
thus approximating more closely, as time 
went on, to the Epicureans. The point of 
the remark quoted by MR. H. E. G. EVANS 
is that Theodorus was a thorough-going 
atheist. He flourished early in the fourth 1 
century B.C. The most accessible references 
to him are in Cicero. See ' De Natura 
Deorum,' I. i. (" deos. . . .nullos esse. . . . 
Theodorus Cyrenaicus [putavit] ") ; I. xxiiu 
("Quid? Diagorus <x6/eos qui dictus est r 
posteaque Theodorus, nonne aperte deorum 
naturam sustulerunt ?) ; "Fuse. Disp. r 
I. xliii ( " Theodori quidem nihil interest 
humine an sublime putrescat " ; tf- Seneca,. 



' De Tranquillitate Animi,' xiv. The saying 
is also quoted by Plutarch, but I cannot 
give an exact reference). See also a saying 
of his quoted in 'Tusc. Disp.,' V. xl., and 
references there given in any good edition. 
Bredwardine Vicarage, Hereford. 
[MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE also thanked for reply.] 

BANK NOTE SLANG (12 S. v. 309 ; vi. 51). 
It may interest ST. SWITHIN to know that the 
song, " A guinea, it will sink, and a note, it 
will float," &c., is not unfamiliar in this 
city, and has been sung here in this century. 


(12 S. iv. 304 ; vi. 119.) 

The information supplied by MR. WAINEWRIGHT 
makes it possible to trace "Quaud Italie sera sans 
poison," &c., some stages further back. By 
Leigh's ' Observations ' is meant, as was presumed, 
Edward Leigh's ' Analecta de xii. primis Caesari- 
bus : Select and Choyce Observations,' &c. To the 
second (1647) edition were added "Select and 
choyee French Proverbs, some of which were 
collected out of Grateras [sicl de la None, and 
other Authors, divers observed by my selfe when I 
was in France." In a later edition this is corrected 

to " Gruterus, dela Noue, and other Authors " 

The work of Gruter intended is no doubt his 

'Florilegium Ethico - politicum accedunt 

Proverbia Germanica, Belgica, Italica, Gallica, 
Hispanica.' In the first part of this (Frankfurt, 
1610), p. 236, we find " Quand Italie sera sans 

poison &c sera lors le monde sans terre." On 

the last page of the preliminary matter of the book 
Gruter tells us that for the French proverbs he is 
indebted to Gabriel Meurerius and Joannes 
Nucerinus. At the foot of fol. 99 recto in Gabriel 
Meurier's ' Recveil de Sentences Notables, Diets 
et Dictons Commvns Adages, Prouerbes et Refrains, 
traduics la plus part de Latin, Italien & Espagnol,' 
Antwerp, 1568, we have " Quand Italie sera sans 
poizon, France sans trayson, Angleterre sans guerre, 
sera lors le monde sans terre." It might be 
suggested that as some of these proverbs are said 
to be from the Spanish, and Spain has no disparag- 
ing characteristic assigned her, it is there that we 
must look for the source of the saying. Or is it of 
German origin ? EDWARD BENSLY. 

(12 S. vi. 112.) 

2. This line, which should be : 

Tu quod es, e populo quilibet esse potest, 
is the conclusion of an epigram of Martial, 
Bkj,V. xiii. EDWARD BENSLY. 

3. Ou sont les gratieux gallans. 

This is from Villon 'Grand Testament," XXIX., 
p. 30, in the Jaunet edition. It ought to be 
compared with the same text in the Longman 
edition which is infinitely better. 


3 Rue des Cansuniers, Lille. 

[In the query at p. 112, line 1, read "gallans" 
for gallons.] 


The Oxford English Dictionary. (Vol. X. TiZ.) 
Visor- Vywer. By W. A. Craigie. (Oxford . 
Clarendon Press, '2s. 6d. net.) 

THE number of words in this section of the 
Dictionary is in all 1571> nearly double that recorded 
in the ' Century Dictionary.' A great proportion is 
of nineteenth century invention formations on th& 
Latin for literary or scientific purposes and there- 
are a few, as for example " vivisection," of which it 
may be said that they would likewise have been 
nineteenth century inventions if there had not been 
a stray occurrence or two in an earlier century to 
give them the bare right to be considered older. 
For " vivisection " itself there appears to be a gap 
from 1736 to 1842, during which no example was* 
found. The words connected with " visual " offer 
several interesting paragraphs ; thus under" visual^ 
ray " we have early instances in which the phrase 
denotes a ray proceeding from the eye to the object 
of vision ; the compilers have found a passage (1651) 
in which "visuall" knowledge appears to be con- 
trasted with book-knowledge ; and they record 
Carlyle's attempt to establish " visualities " in th& 
sense of mental pictures or visions. Coleridge and, 
Tyndall seem to be jointly responsible for the intro- 
duction of" visualize" a word which has been. 
well-worked during its century of existence, and; 
may be reckoned among those which have most 
powerfully reacted back upon thought. The 
columns derived from vitalis abound with interest- 
ing quotations roughly representing current natural. 
philosophy from Chaucer onwards. From Chaucer, 
too, comes the first mention of " vitriol," to be 
followed by copious illustrations from works on- 
alchemy, medicine and chemistry, through each. 
following century. It is curious that " vitriolic " 
was apparently not used in a figurative sense till 
the middle of the last century. The first quotation^ 
about vitriol- throwing comes from Thackeray's 
' Irish Sketch Book ' (1843) : may that be taken. 
to indicate the date and place at which this 
form of outrage began to be committed ? ' Vitry,' 
marked as obsolete (Vitry-canvas from Vitre in, 
Brittany), has a good range of instances from c. 1425 
to 1867, when it appears in a sailor's handbook. 
" Vitulation " affords an amusing instance of false 
etymology : " Vittilation," says Cockeram (1623), 
"a reioicingliktacalf." There seems no occurrence 
of its correct use or explanation. 

The only native English word of any importance is 
"vixen." The vixen's reputation for fierceness 
seems as solid as that of the fox for cunning. 
" Vizier " is the most notable of Eastern words. 
Its original meaning was '' porter '' ; whence by a 
touch of Oriental simplicity, it came to mean the 
one who bore the burden of the affairs of state. It 
seems not to have been known to the English before 
the end of the Sixteenth Century. ' Sermons in the 
vocative case ' as a description of didactic prayers 
is a rather pleasant witticism preserved under 
" vocative " taken from Eraser's " Autobiography." 
" Vogue " and " voice " especially the former 
furnish excellent articles. We confess ourselves 
surprised to find that the common use of "voice" 
as a verb in the sense of " to express in words " or 
"to pioclaim " a use which we take leave to- 
deprecate goes back as far as 1880. 

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So many nonce-words, and attempts at words 
< have been recorded in the Dictionary, occurring 
1 in books which no man now ever reads, that we 
think place should have been found for Robert 
Hugh Benson's rather ingenious ''volor" the name 
which he gave to the airships which figure in 
The Lord of the World' and The Dawn of All.' 
'Under " volcanic " Byron has been forgotten ; 
though " Lone as some volcanic isle " would have 
- supplied an element desirable for adequate illustra- 
tion, as, rather curiously, " volcanic isle " or 
" island " does not occur in the group of quotations 
in which it would naturally be placed. Under 
"' vulture," in the figurative use as " something 
which preys upon a person," it is said that an 
allusion to Tityus is commonly intended ; but 
we fancy that, however incorrectly, those who use 
the figure usually have Prometheus rather than 
Tityus in mind. 

The earliest instance for " vulnerable " appears to 
be the one in ' Macbeth.' A single instance of this 
-in the active sense (1603) is noted. " Vulgate " has 
aiotso completely been appropriated to St. Jerome's 
version of the Bible, but that it can be used even 
for common or colloquial speech not a specially 
'happy use. We confess to some surprise at finding 
that " vulgarian " as substantive can be traced 
back as far as Maria Edgewprth. ' Vulgars," in 
school phrase, for passages in English to be done 
into Latin, seems to have had a run of exactly a 
century from 1520, here, to 16 1 2. South ey, 
apparently, would have had us speak of " vul- 

canising" verses, in the sense of committing 
'them to the flames; however, some twenty years 

later than the date of his letter, the word was 
-appropriated by the inventor of the process to 
name the method of hardening india-rubber by 
'treatment with sulphur. 'Voyage' is one of the 
best articles in the section and we would particu- 
larly congratulate the compilers on the fine group 
of examples illustrating its obsolete use for a 
.military expedition. So late as 1860 an instance of 
" making a voyage " for making a journey by land 
(has been discovered. " When the voyage is ready, 
the master is bound to sail as soon as the wind and 
tide permit" (1826) the only example of voyage= 
a vessel fitted out for sailing and the whaling and 
fishing uses of the word are interesting extensions 
of meaning. Beside "voyage" we would put 
** vow " and its derivatives, and with them " vouch- 
safe," the forms of which present a bewildering 

We observed, with satisfaction, that the Daily 
Press has here been less frequently drawn upon for 

quotations than in many sections is the case, and 
this is the more noticeable because the words dealt 
with are so largely modern and often referable to 

! purely modern institutions or discoveries. 

'The Bowyer Bible. A Monograph by Archibald 
Sparke. (Published by the Libraries Committee, 

'THE BOWYER BIBLE is an extra-illustrated or Gran- 
gerised copy of Macklin's Bible, which has been 

extended from seven volumes to forty-five by the 
insertion of engravings and drawings collected from 

every part of Europe. The whole work which is 
enclosed in an elaborate oak cabinet was accom- 
plished, at the cost of thirty years of occupation and 
4,000 guineas, by Robert Bowyer, a miniature 
painter of some note subsequently a publisher 

(1758-1834). It seems to have reached completion 
about 1826. 

It is at present on loan at the Bolton Public 
Library for a term of ten years, and Mr. Archibald 
Sparke, well-known to all our readers, has here 
brought together all the particulars of its history 
and vicissitudes, with so much as proved obtainable, 
or was requisite, of the history or its divers owners. 
This makes an interesting short monograph, which 
will be specially acceptable to those who have had 
the opportunity of inspecting the Bible. 

We fear there is not much to be said in favour of 
"Grangerizing," except from the point of view of 
the Grangerizer himself. So, ones own common- 
place-book is of singular use to oneself, but of 
doubtful value to any other person. We are in- 
clined to think the good Bpwyer overdid it not so 
much in the way of collecting as in the sumptuous- 
ness of the book-case and accessories. He attempted 
by these means to unify that which would have been 
better left obviously as it must needs remain in- 
trinsically heterogeneous. 


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In reply to MR. ANEURIX WILLIAMS at p. 40 
(' Samuel Rowlands ') MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE 
writes : " This author was born about 1570 and 
wrote many tracts in prose and verse between 
1598 and 1628. Two of his pamphlets were 
publicly burnt in 1600, but he issued them later 
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1610, and contains a thieves' vocabulary com- 
pleter than in any earlier work. Only six copies 
of this book are known to eyist, says ' D.N.B.* 
He died about 1630." 

ST. LEONARD'S PRIORY, HANTS (12 S. vi. 90). 
MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE suggests that " the 
Priory MRS. COPE requires may be the one known 
as ' St. Leonard's Grange,' a thirteenth-century 
building occupied by the monks of Beaulieu. A 
description of it is in the ' Victoria County His- 
tory of Hampshire,' vol. iv., p. 654." 

MR. M. A. ELLIS (" Puttick : Origin of Name"). 
MR. HENRY HARRISON, in his 'Surnames of the 
United Kingdom' derives this name, no doubt 
correctly, from M.E. puttoc, a kite or hawk. 

G. ("'Butter' in Place-names"). This may be 
considered a variant of Boter (Boterus), Latinized 
form of the English name Bot-here. See the late 
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CONTENTS. No. 107. 

: ' Alice in Wonderland ' and Wordsworth's 
' Leech-gatherer,' 161 London Coffee-houses. Taverns, 
and Inns in the Eighteenth Century, 162" Strikes " in 
the Talmud, 164 Thomas Baschurch, Winchester 
Scholar, 165 A Gallician Inscription Historical In- 
accuracies, 166 Reference in Kuskin, 167. 

'QUERIES: Burton's 'Anatomv' : "Deuce ace non ossunt" 
Van Balen : Charles Lainb Toulroin, 167 Nicholas 
Brown Marten Arms Italy and India in the Fifteenth 
Century Tom or Thorns: Nias Coddington Arthur 
Pole Pigott Wood (Thurston) Light fc of Marriage 'A 
New View of London,' 17(H, IfiS -Bronze of Shakespeare 
Nouchette Zeus and Chi Whitelocke :Pryse : Scawen 
Etonians in the Eighteenth Century Cistercian Abbess 
J. Murdoch. Burns's Schoolmaster Maffey Family, 169 
Cookes of Ireland De Celle Walthamstow Darnell 
fl.nd Thorp Clergymen : Church of England: Roman 
Catholic- Caveac Tavern Rev. John Gutch Lacaux 
Marsh -Maynard John Jones's ' Lord Viscount Nelson ' 
Author of Quotation Wanted, 170. 

31EPLIES : Portuguese Embassy Chapel Cornish and 
Devonian Priests Executed: George Stocker, 171 
Jacobite Memorial Rings Letter from the King 
(George IV.) Celtic Patron Saints, 172 "The Lame 
Demon "The Baskett Bible Constable the Painter 
Hawke's Flagship. 173 Slates and Slate Pencils Burial 
-at Sea : Mildmay "Cockagee " : "Cypress," 174 Cantrell 
Family' Anne of Geierstein ' Petrograd : Monument of 
Peter the Great, 175 Yale and Hobhs Walter Hamilton 
Belt-buckle Plate and Motto Finkle Street, 176 Mary 
Jones Gender of ''Dish" in Latin- Jenner Family 
Bradshaw Lancelot Blackburne -Italian St. Swithin's 
Day, 177 No Man's Land Unannotated Marriages at 
Westminster St. Leonard's Priory, Hants Uncollected 
Kipling Items, 178. 

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OBITUARY: Charles William Sutton. 


THAT those delightful books, 'Alice in 
Wonderland,' and 'Through the Looking- 
glass and what Alice found there,' contain 
far more interest for the mature reader than 
is apparent at first sight, is a very well 
known fact. And while one feels almost 
sacrilegious in attempting to dissect such 
wonderful dream-stories, there still is no 
question but that all through them 
especially all throxigh the ' Looking-glass ' 
book Lewis Carroll deliberately provokes 
us to dissection, and no one can really be 
blamed for taking up the challenge. 

One of the most elusive passages in the 
two books is the White Knight's song, in 
chap. viii. of 'Through the Looking-glass.' 
'The song is charming enough in itself ; and 
it is in its metre a parody on Thomas More's 
"'My Heart and Lute,' as Mrs. Florence 
;Milner has pointed out in her edition of 

' Alice ' the author himself gives the clue 
to that. But the real humour of the poem 
lies beyond that, and of this Lewis Carroll, 
in his characteristic way, has given no 
outward indication. To carry the White 
Knight's own description of his song one 
step further, " the song really is " a delicious 
parody of Wordsworth's ' Resolution and 
Independence,' or 'The Leech-gatherer.' 
Once the connection is suggested, this fact 
seems to me so evident as hardly to need 
detailed explanation. The parody is far 
cleverer than a mere line-for-line imitation 
would have been. It is a parody of the 
essential spirit of Wordsworth's poem. A 
slight sketch of the " story " of each poem, 
while fair to the true spirit of neither, will 
show at least the unmistakable connection 
between the original poem and its parody. 

In ' Resolution and Independence ' the 
poet is wandering in the country, at first 
happy, but soon, with a sudden spiritual 
change in mood, downhearted and despair- 
ing. He meets a man, 
The oldest man he seemed that ever wore grey 


who is wandering the country gathering 
leeches from the pools a rather peculiar 
occupation, by the way, the peculiarity of 
which Lewis Carroll realized to the fullest 
extent of its implications and greets him, 
asking him 

What occupation do you there pursue ? 

The old man answers gently, but the 
poet's mind is wandering ; he is comforted 
by the voice of the old man, but does not 
attend to what he is saying, and renews the 

Hovr is it that you live, and what is it you do ? 

Again the old man answers gently. They 
part, and the poet determines in future 
despondent moods to make more firm his 
mind by thinking of the ~ rt Leech-gatherer 
on the lonely moor." 

In the White Knight's song, the poet 
Saw an aged aged man 
A -sitting on a gate. 
He asks the old man how he lives, 

And his answer trickled through my head 
Like water through a sieve. 

The old man tells of various astounding 
things he does, such as making' butterflies 
into mutton-pies. Twice more the poet 
asks the old man the same question over 
again, thumping him on the head and 
shaking him "until his face was blue," 
while the old man continues to describe 
his varied occupations : 

His accents mild took up the tale. 


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Finally the poet gets through his mind- 
wanderings, and hears him. And after 
that whenever the poet becomes despondent 
(through dropping on his toe a very heavy 
weight, for example), he weeps, for it 
reminds him of the aged aged man a-sitting 
on a gate. 

The foregoing outlines show, as it were, 
the skeleton of the parody. For the full 
humour of the song in ' Alice ' one must 
really enter into the spirit of Wordsworth's 
poem -for that, it seems to me, is precisely 
what Lewis Carroll had done when he wrote 
Ms parody. 

The various names which the Knight 
gives his son, too, are very probably further 
parodying of the two names of Wordsworth's 
poem. The resemblance between ' The 
Aged Aged Man ' and ' The Leech- gatherer,' 
between ' Ways and Means ' and ' Resolu- 
tion and Independence ' is certainly not 

Some traits in the not altogether admirable 
character of the Aged Aged Man make me 
suspect very strongly that Lewis Carroll was 
pretty thoroughly acquainted, not only with 
the Wordsworth poem itself, but also with 
the history of the poem's composition, par- 
ticularly the account of it in Dorothy 

Wordsworth's 'Journal.' The Aged AgedJ 
Man is, I am afraid, a good deal of a beggar,, 
in spite of his extraordinary fertility of 
imagination. Now Wordsworth's old 
Leech-gatherer, in the poem, is not a beggar 
in any sense far from it. But listen to 
Dorothy Wordsworth's more exact account 
of him : "His trade was to gather leeches ; 
but now leeches were scarce, and he had not 
strength for it. He lived by begging," &c. 
Perhaps it is as well not to investigate too 
closely into every nook and cranny of Lewis 
Carroll's imagination to say nothing of" 
the impossibility of investigating fully such 
a vast and complex realm. But the more 
one reads the ' Aged Aged Man ' as a parody 
of Wordsworth, the more delightful it 
becomes. And when it is remembered that 
in one and the same song Lewis Carroll is 
parodying Wordsworth, is imitating Thomas 
Moore's poem, is making the " hero " of the 
song exactly fit the character of his White 
Knight, and, best of all, is producing a 
poem utterly delightful to a child as welt 
as to a more sophisticated reader well, the 
poem is fully worthy of a place equal with, 
the more renowned ' Jabberwocky." 

Cambridge. Mass. 


(Seefonfe. pp. 29,' 59, 84,105, 125, 143.) 


Three Cranes 
Three Hats Inn 
Three Kings 
Three Nuns 
Three Tuns 

Three Tuns 

Three Tuns 
Three Tuns 
Tom's . . 

Tom's .. 

Tom's M 

Tom's ... 

Thames Street 

Upper Street, Islington 


Aldgate High Street 

Between Cornhill and Ex 1748 

change Alley 
St. Margaret's Hill, South- 

Chandos Street .. .. 1723 

Strand 1793 

Cornhill (south side) . 1709 


St. Martin's Lane, next to 1710 

Young Man's Coffee-house 1 725 

Eussell Street, Covent Gar- 1707 
den, opposite Button's 

(no. 17) 1713 

Devereux Court, Strand 

St. Paul's Churchyard 

Thornhury, ii. 19 and 20. 

Warwick Wroth, p. 148. 

' A Twentieth-Century Palace,' 1908, p. 30.- 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 42' ; Hare, i. 348. 

Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q ' 

Dec. i), 1916, p. 462. 
Wheatley's ' London,' iii. 379. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 128. 

Roach's L.P.P., p. 52. 

Matthew Prior's ' The Chameleon.' 

Plan of Great Fire, R. E. A. C., ' N. & Q. ' 
Dec. 9, 1916, p. 461. 

Fielding's C.G.J., no. 2. 

Chatterton to his sister, May. 30. 

Roach's L.P.P., p. 55 ; Wheatley's ' Lon- 
don,' iii. 383. 

Dobson's ' Hogarth,' p. 49. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' pp. 57, 165.. 

Farquhar's ' Beaux Stratagem,' Act IV., . 
sc. i. 

Addison's Guardian, June 2 ; Wheatley'a 
' London,' iii. 383 ; Hare, i. 27. 

Stirling's A.Y.H., i. 40. 

Dickins and Stanton, p. 13. 

Stirling's A.Y.H., i. 333; Wheatley's 
' London,' iii. 383. 

Sydney's ' XVIIIth Century,' p. 186 ;; 
Wheatley's ' London,' iii. 56. 

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Turk's Head 
Turk's Head 

Turk's Head 
Turk's Head 

Turk's Head 

Two Chairmen 

Two- Necked Swan . . 
Upper Flask Tavern 

Valentine and Orson 
Vine Tavern 

Walnut-tree Tavern 


White Bear Inn . . 

White's Chocolate- 

White's Coffee-house 
White Hart Tavern 

White Hart Inn .. 
White Horse Cellar 
Hostelry (Old) .. 
White Swan 
Whyte Lyon Tavern 

Wildman's . . 


Sheer Lane, Temple Bar . . 

New Palace Yard, West- 
Strand (no. 142) .. 

Greek Street 

Near Wood's Close, Isling- 
ton Road 
Gerrard Street, Soho 

1 Warwick Street, Cockspur 


See Sican with Two Necks. 
Hampstead . . . . . . 

Long Lane, Bennondsey . . 

St. Paul's Churchyard 
Scotland Yard 
Piccadilly, on the site of the 

St. James's Street, on the 
site of the present 
Arthur's Club (no. 69 and 

1742 Daily Advertiser, Mar. 5 ; MacMichael's 
' Charing Cross,' p. 307 ; Thornbury, . 
i. 71 and 72. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 235 ; Wheatley's 

' London,' iii. 410. 

1793 Roach's L.P.P., p. 47 ; Wheatley's ' Lon- 
don, 1 iii. 410. 

1753 MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 183. 

1742 S. Lewis's ' Islington,' 1842, p. 37. 

1764 Bickbech Hill, i.478 ; Wheatley's ' Hogarth'3- 

London,' p. 273. 
1769 Hare, ii. 131 ; Morley's ' Baretti,' p. 205. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 294. 







Bedford Court, Covent Gar- 
Bishopsgate Street Without 

Longacre . . . . . . 

Near Arlington Street, 1789 


See Swan Tavern, Chelsea. 

Bishopsgate Street (west 1765 

Bedford Street 

Bell Savage Yard on Lud- 

gate Hill 
Bow Street, Covent Ga-den 



Woolpack Inn ' .. Bermondsey ; _ 

Middlesex County Records, Sessions Books, 
932-56 ; Richardson's ' Clarissa Harlowe ';. 
Mitton and Besant's ' Hampstead and 
Marylebone,' 1902, p. 14 ; Gomme's- 
G.M.L., pt. xvi., p. 204. 

Daily Cmtrant, Feb. 19 ; Larwood, p. 76. 

Middlesex County Records, Sessions Books, 

Larwood, p. 230. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 14. 

Larwood, p. 155 ; 'A Twentieth-Century 
Palace,' 1908, pp. 27, 28 ; Wheatley's 
' London,' iii. 491. 

Farquhar's ' Beaux Stratagem,' Act III., 
sc. ii. ; Act IV., sc. i. 

Swift's ' Journal,' Aug. 22, Dec. 1. 

Fielding's ' Eurydice.' 

Fielding's ' Wedding Day,' Act II., sc. iii. 

' Tom Jones,' xiii. 6. 

Walpole to Sir H. Mann, June. 

' Amelia,' iii. 10 ; viii. 9. 

' The History of Pompey the Little,' p. 22. 

Fielding's ' Voyage to Lisbon.' 

Hickey, i. 81 ; Geo. Selwyn to Lord 
Carlisle ; Hist. MSB. Com., 15 Rep., 
pt. vi., p. 236 ; Wheatley's ' London,' 
iii. 491-6 ; Bourke's ' History of White's,' 
1892 : Wheatley's ' Hogarth's London,' 
pp. 293-300 ; Hare, ii. 69. 

MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 187. 

Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 47 ; Thornbury, ii. 152, 

156. ; Besant, p. 332. 
MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 211. 
Clayden's ' Rogers,' p. 85 ; Thornbury, 

iv. 260 ; Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 152. 

Gen. Mag., Plan of Great Fire, ' N. & Q., 

Dec. 9, 1916, p. 463. 
Shelley's ' Inns,' p. 205. 
' Letters of Junius,' no. 48 ; Wheatley's 

' London,' iii. 515. 
W. Oldisworth to 2nd Earl of Oxford ; 

Hist. MSS. Com. Portland, vi. 35. 
Farquhar's ' Beaux Stratagem,' Act III., 

sc. ii. 
Matthew Prior's ' The Chameleon,' Act IV., 

sc. i. 

Addison's Tatter, nos. 154, 163, 224. 
Addison's Spectator, Mar. 1. 
Moore Smythe to Teresa Blount, Aug. 13. 
Fielding's ' Temple Beau,' Act V., sc. xv. 
' Tom Jones,' xiii. 5 ; Hardcastle, L 109 ; . 

Hare, i. 26 ; Wheatley's ' London,' 

iii. 517-22. 
Thornbury, vi. 123. 


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'"Wrekin Tavern 


1 York 

'Young Devil Tavern 
"Young Slaughter's . . 
"Young Man's 


l Bell Tavern 
"Black Swan 
/Blackman's Head 

'Blossom Inn 
Buffalo Tavern 

Cross Keys Inn 
Gloucester . . 
Grand Boyal 

Broad Court, Bow Street . . 

York Street, Covent Garden 

New Bridge Street . . 1793 

Norris Street, Haymarket 1792 

St. James's Street (" Upper 1793 
End ") 

Thornbury, iii. 274. 
Thornbury, iii. 285. 
Roach's L.P.P., pp. 47, 48. 
Warwick Wroth, p. 221. 
Roach's L.P.P., pp. 47, 48. 

See Slaughter's. 
Buckingham Court, next to 1738 
Tom's Corfee-house 


.. 1793 
.. 1741 

.' .' 1730 

. . 1793 

1708 Cunningham, p. la. 

Arlington Street . 
St. Martin's Lane. 
St. Martin's Lane. 
Hedge Lane . 

Lawrence Lane 
Bloomsbury ' . 

Gracechurch Street . . 1793 

Piccadilly 1793 

Pall Mall 1793 

Prince's Street, Drury Lane 1708 

St. John's Gate .. .. 1727 

Mother Red Cap Inn Camden Town ., 

Besant, p. 311 ; London Daily Post, Feb. 7; 
MacMichael's ' Charing Cross,' p. 55. 

Roach's L.P.P., p. 27. 

Daily Advertiser, Nov. 7. 

Sala's ' Hogarth,' 1866, p. 86. 

Middlesex County Records, Sessions Books, 


Roach's L.P.P., p. 25. 
Middlesex County Records, Sessions Books, 


Roach's L.P.P., p. 25. 
Roach's L.P.P., p. 27. 
Roach's L.P.P., p. 27. 
Paston's 'Mr. Pope,' 1909, i. 26. 
Middlesex County Records, Sessions Books, 

Thornbury, v. 312. 



To persons who take things on hearsay, 
the Talmud is a pretty tohu-bohu of fairy 
tales. But it is marvellous how the modern 
world is mirrored in its pages. Verily, there 
is nothing new under the sun. Two strikes 
, at divers dates are recorded in Tractate 
Yoma 38A. They occurred during the 
tempestuous era of the second Temple when 
Simon the Just was High Priest (c. 200 B.C.). 
Simon held that office for eighty years 
(ibid. 9A), while another distinguished man 
Eleazar Ben Choorsous retained office for 
eleven years. He was a man of substance. 
Around his name, as around that of Hillel, 
legend wove garlands of fancy and of ethical 
potency (ibid. 35 b). I will recur to them 
later on. 

To the " strikes," first of all. For reasons, 
which call for no discussion here, certain 
Hebrew families in the priestly caste 
tenaciously held to their posts, and to " the 
secret processes " on which they founded 
a species of "guild." The leaders in that 
venal age (in which no high priest held 
office for more than 18 months, on an 
average) were anxious to stabilize many 
practices in the Temple services. Accord- 
ingly, they requested the " Gormies " to 
accept "apprentices" to the craft of 
manufacturing "the show bread." The 
"Abtinas" family, again, were celebrated 
for compounding incense. Both of these 
guilds promptly "downed tools," and went 

out "on strike." It is not recorded 
whether they "picketted" the Sanctuary. 
At all events, "the wise men" sent post 
haste to Alexandria (to the Temple at On, 
presumably) and engaged "holy blacklegs " 
to replace the strikers. But the show- 
bread turned out too "pappy," and the 
incense fabricated by substituted labour 
lacked the secret quality of ascending " in a 
straight column " from the altar. In the 
end, the " Chachomeem " were obliged to 
parley with the strikers. In inducing them 
to resume their duties, they displayed tact, 
foresight and courage. They did not 
advocate paltry "rises in wages." They 
doubled their salaries straight away. 

Let me now briefly narrate two anecdotes. 
Eleazar Ben Choorsous is held up in the 
Talmud (Yoma 35B) as a pattern for 
wealthy men to copy. Though he offi- 
ciated for upwards of eleven years in the 
Second Temple, he devoted many hours of 
the day and night (like Rabbi Jochanon Ben 
Zakkai) to studying the Torah. Presum- 
ably he was hurrying from the Temple pre- 
cincts, home to the privacy of his beloved 
studies, when his farm labourers and other 
servants surrounded him in the public square 
and gave him an ovation. This he mildly 
resented. "I beg of you," he pleaded, " do 
let me go home to study the Torah." 
" But first of all come and see what we 
have done on the farm," said the foreman. 

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"We will not allow you to neglect your 
private affairs any longer." It was useless. 
They had to let him go home to his favourite 

The story told in the Talmud about 
Hillel is more interesting. It is humanism 
pure and perfect, and illustrates the broad- 
mindedness of the Rabbis in a superlative 
degree. When Hillel Hahzohkein (the elder) 
was quite a young and unknown man, he was 
a market porter. From his scanty earnings 
he paid the doorkeeper of the Beth Hamid- 
rash (College) where Schemahya and Ab- 
talion lectured to crowded audiences. Ac- 
cording to the Talmud, &c., one Friday 
afternoon, poor Hillel was xmable to pay 
the doorkeeper a " prootah " (penny) for 
the privilege of listening to the discourses. 
It was a boisterous, snowy day, and the 
market was badly attended. Not to be 
outdone, Hillel clambered up to the roof. 
Pressing his ear to the skylight, he be- 
came so absorbed that he forgot all about 
the raging elements. Hours afterwards 
when the Sabbath had begun, Sche- 
mahya remarked to his colleague "Brother 
Abtalion, usually at this hour of the day the 
room is flooded with light. To-day it is 
quite dark. I should say it is quite as dismal 
and as cloudy outside." Glancing up at the 
skylight, they observed what seemed to be 
the prostrate figure of a man. Proceeding 
to investigate the matter, they found Hillel 
lying on the roof, in an unconscious condi- 
tion, covered in a mantle of snow. Lifting 
the poor boy gently to the ground, they 
carried him indoors, gave him a hot bath 
and supper and set him by the stove to 
recuperate. In a later age, Rabbis who 
heard this legend of Hillel, made this 
shrewd remark: "He was indeed worth 
breaking the Sabbath for " in order to 
rescue him from an early grave to become 
one of the assets of Judaism and of 
humanity at large. 

Percy House, South Hackney, E.9. 

SCHOLAB. In Kirby's ' Winchester Scholars, 
at p. 91, under the year 1489, is this entry : 
"Baschyrch, Thomas, Bristol. Sell. N.C. B.A. 
Fell. 1495-8. R. of St. Leonard, Eastcheap. 
lounder of a Preb. at Llaudaff." 

He was in fact Rector of St. Leonard's, 
Eastcheap, London, from May 3, 1520, to 
his death which occurred in or just before 
January, 1537/8 (Hennessy, ' Novum Reper- 
torium,' p. 81). In October, 1515, Thomas 

Baschurch, Rector of Stoke Newingtoji.* 
exchanged that living with one Edward 
Hyggins for the Rectory oi Newchurch in 
Romney Marsh ; but he resigned New- 
church in or before January 1522/3 (' Arch- 
aeologia Cantiana,' xiii. 465). Neither Bas- 
church nor Hyggins are mentioned by 
Hennessy as Rectors of Stoke Newington 
(at p. 420), there being a gap between 1445 
and 1531. 

Thomas Baschurch was collated to the 
Rectory of Chevening, near Sevenoaks by 
Archbishop Warham at Knole, Jan. 24,. 
1522/3 ('Arch. Cant.,' xvi. 123); but on 
April 30, 1533, he wrote to Cromwell that 
he was " sore sick and likely to die," and on 
July 23 in the same year Cranmer wrote to- 
the Duchess of Norfolk (letter printed 
' Cranmer' s Works ' (Parker Soc.), vol. ii.. 
pp. 254-5) that Mr. Baschurch had changed 
his mind and resigned the benefice to 
another (' Letters and Papers Henry VIII.,* 
vol. vi. nos. 404 and 885). 

On May 18, 1525, Richard Robynson 
was presented to the church of Olderkerke - 
in the marches of Calais vice Thomas Bas- 
church resigned (' L. and P. Hen. VIII.,' 
vol. iv., no. 1377, gr. 8) ; but Baschurch 
seems to have recovered this living, for we 
find him in 1532 and 1533 quarrelling about 
it with John Benolt, the Archbishop of 
Canterbury's Commissary at Calais, and; 
brother to Thomas Benolt, Clarencieux. 
King-at-arms (as to whom see the ' D.N.B.'). 
The facts seem to be that on May 11, 1532, 
John Benolt resigned the living of Moor 
Monkton, near York, in favour of Lawrence- 
Stubbs, who resigned the living of North, 
Cerney, Gloucestershire in favour of Thomas 
Baschurch, who resigned the living of. 
Olderkerke in favour of John Benolt. 
Baschurch, however, was much dissatisfied 
with the terms of the exchange. (See- 
' L. and P. Hen. VIII.,' vol. v., nos. 1283,. 
1540 ; vol. vi., nos, 77, 153, 154, 196, gr. 3L 
and 32.) Benolt did not obtain possession' 
of Olderkerke till the middle of November, 
1532, and even then the quarrel continued.. 
Baschurch resigned North Cerney on or 
before May 10, 1533. 

Although Baschurch, as we have seen,, 
had resigned Chevening in July, 1533, he- 
still continued to reside there and not in the- 
City of London. On Jan. 11, 1535/6 
Cranmer wrote to Henry VIII. a letter 
(calendared ' L. and P. Hen. VIII.,' vol. x., 
no. 113; and printed in full 'Cranmer 
Works ' (Parker Soc.), vol. ii., pp. 319-320, 
and partially in ' Southey's Commonplace 
Book,' 1st Series, pp. 252-3), which is solely 


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-concerned with the treasonable utterances, 
suicidal mania, and religious melancholy of 
Thomas Baschurch, who was evidently 
living at Chevening, and to whom Cranmer 
refers as " Thomas Baschurche, priest, some- 
time secretary unto the Bishop of Canter- 
bury, my predecessor, whom I suppose your 
Grace doth know." 

Any further particulars about this man 
would be welcome, and especially informa- 
tion about the Prebend at Llandaff. 


Holder's 'Celtische Sprachschatz ' the word 
*' Crougintoudadigoe " appears. It is be- 
lieved to be a Celtic word. The late Kuno 
Meyer informed me on Feb. 21, 1910, that 
jit was " apparently the name of a divinity." 
I presumed to think that it was Alemannic 

- or Suevic, and the matter was submitted by 
Prof. Meyer to Prof. Kluge of Berlin, who 

. gave Meyer to understand that he thought 
that I was wrong and it was asked : What 
could such words mean ? 

The inscription is to be found in Gallicia, 
the Spanish region overrun by the Suevi 
-after A.D. 409, under their king Hermeneric. 
Spanish archaeologists assign the inscription 
to the early part of the fifth century for 
^reasons of style, workmanship, and Latinity, 
only. Those readers of 'N. & Q.' who are 
-interested would do well to refer to the 
Boletin de la Real Academia de la Historia, 
article ' Lapidas Romanas de Mosteiro de 
Ribeira,' 1911. Therein the difficulties that 
beset my path at the outset, and which were 
smoothed away by Mr. Hastings Medhurst 

(H.M.'s Consul-General at Corunna), by MR. 
E. S. DODGSON (who happened to be in 

Gallicia at the time), and by Padre Fidel 
Fita of Madrid, are set forth. 

Why Alfred Holder chose to make a 
conglomeration of the words of the inscrip- 
tion I do not know. Emil Hiibner, in his 
* Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum,' printed 
-the lettering correctly, line for line, thus : 

i.e., Crougin toud a digoe Rufonia Sever[a~|. 

In this inscription we get : (1, 2) the very 
rare Western diphthong ou twice; (3) we 
get -in, the Old High Dutch possessive of 
weak names of men in 6 (4) -de, the ending 
of the first (and third) person, singular 
-number, of the present subjunctive of weak 

verbs in O.H.D. ; (5, 6) we have O.H.D. ou 
postulating West Germanic an, O.E. ea, 
O.S. o, in toud (>*dauth, dea\>, doth); (7) -t 
for O.E. d in dea]> ; (8, 9) d in toud and in 
digoe, for O.E. ]> in dea]> and \icgan ; (10) the 
particle a of negative force which appears in 
O.H.D. occasionally : e.g., d-kust, badness, 
fault ; d-swih, hindrance ; and d-deilo, one 
who takes no part in; (11) Croug-, which 
presents the unshifted stem of Creac-, O.H.D. 
Crouc-, in the "Croucingo " of the seventh- 
century anonymous geographer of Ravenna ; 
(12) the unshifted O.H.D. Croug-, which 
postulates O.E. Creag-, and which we find in 
its correct Kentish form, Crecg- in. " Crecgan- 
ford," A.S. Chron., annal 457. 

For these reasons I regard the Gallician 
inscription as the oldest monument of the 
Suevic dialect of Old High Dutch, and date 
it about A.D. 410-420. The meaning is : 
" Crougo's death may Rufonia Severa not 

It will, of course, be asked : How is it 
possible that Teutonic masters of linguistic 
science can have overlooked this inscription ? 
I would answer : Perhaps they have not done 
so, and moreover, perhaps they are fully 
aware of its existence, and of the effect that 
it ought to have upon their chronological 

known that in the controversy that took 
place about Quietism in the reign of 
Louis XIV. Fenelon wrote ' Les Maximes des 
Saints sur la vie interieure.' His enemies 
sent the book to Rome in the hope that the 
Pope would condemn it, and the Pope, flaef ore 
giving a decision, submitted it to the 
judgment of a committee. Of the com- 
position of this committee Voltairo 
says : 

"La congregation du Saint-office nomma, pour 
instruire le proces, un dominicain, un jesuite, un 
benedictin, deux cordeliers, un feuillant et un 
augustin. C'est ce qu'on appelle a Rome les con- 

sulteurs Les consulteurs examinerent pendant 

trente-sept conferences, trente-sept propositions, les 
jugerent erronees (Sieclede Louis XIV)." 

Michelet says : 

'' Le 12 octobre 97, le pape nomme une commission 
pour Fenelon, laquelle toute uue annee, reste en 
suspena, ne resout rien, et n'obtient nulle majorite ; 
toujours six contre six ('Histoire de France' vol. 
xvi. chap. 8)." 
Martin says : 

"Les commissaires que le pape avait charges 
d'examiner le livre de Fenelon s'etant partages, 
cinq pour et cinq contre. le livre cut du ebre absous 
suivant la coutume ( ' Histoire de France' vol. xiv 
p. 320)." 


las. vi. MAY 1,1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


'Thus, of the same committee, Voltaire 
ays that there were seven members, and 
they pronounced against the contents of 
the book ; Michelet says that there were 
'twelve members ; Martin that there were 
'ten members. The last two historians affirm 
that the committee did not condemn the 
'book. The truth as to the numbers is 
immaterial, and perhaps the different state- 
ments can be reconciled in some way or 
other. I only quote them to show, as I have 
often noticed, how difficult it is to arrive at 
the exact truth as to details in historical 
^questions. T. PERCY ARMSTRONG. 

The Author's Club, Whitehall Court, S.W. 


-vii. 209.) In the fifty-first chapter of 'Fors 
Clavigera ' Ruskin describes how when a 
child of 3J years he was painted by North - 
cote, and how two rounded hills as blue as 
'his shoes were introduced in the background 
of the portrait at his own request. He had 
already been once, if not twice, taken to 
Scotland ; and his Scottish nurse had sung 
to him as they approached the Tweed or 

For Scotland, my darling, lies full in my view, 
With her barefooted lassies, and mountains so 

'The story and quotation are repeated near 
the beginning of ' Praeterita,' with the 
change of "my" to "thy view." 

The query about this song put seven years 
ago by R. R. of Vienna has remained 
unanswered in 'N. & Q.' I am indebted to 
my neighbour, Mr. J. E. Morris, for showing 
:me the source of these lines. They are by 
Robert Bloomfield, coming in the third 
stanza of his ' Song for a Highland Drover 
returning from England.' It begins: "O 
'Tweed ! gentle Tweed," and was published 
in his 'Rural Tales, Ballads, and Songs,' 
1802. A note in this edition, by C. L., 
characterizes the piece as : " Natural, 
affectionate, spirited, and poetical." C. L. 
stands for Bloomfield's patron, Capell Lofft 
the elder, who annoyed Charles Lamb by 
signing sonnets with his initials. Lamb 
.himself, when he had " the felicity of hearing 
George Dyer read out one book of the 
'Farmer's Boy,' ' thought it "rather 
childish," and told Bernard Barton after 
Bloomfield's death that he was not ac- 
quainted with any other of his writings. 

"Lassies " has been Scotticized from the 
.Suffolk versifier's "lasses." 

-Much Hadham, Herts. 


We must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

OSSUNT." Can some one tell me whether 
this agreeable couplet is Burton's own ? It 
occurs in a note to ' Anat. Mel.,' i. 2, 4, 6, 
and plainly exhibits the middle class as the 
milch-cow : 

Deuce ace non possunt, et sex cinque solvere 

nolunt ; 
Omnibus est notum quater tre solvere totum. 

The 'N.E.D.' quotes a (later) English 
version from J. Jones, ' Ovid's Ibis ' : 

Deuce ace cannot pay scot and lot 

And Sice Sink will not pay : 
Be it known to all, what payments fall 

Must light on Cater Tray. 
Is there a good modern edition of the 
' Anatomy ' ? Mine (1861) has a number of 
misprints, and blunders such as Venice for 
Venus, and Lemnian Lake for Lake Leman 
in a well-known tale of St. Bernard. The 
notes are often tantalizing ; but perhaps that 
is Burton's fault. G. G. L. 

letter to Barton, 1827, Charles Lamb writes : 
" Apropos of Van Balen, an artist who 
painted me lately. ..." I should be grateful 
if any reader could tell me anything of this 
artist. Although there is nothing about a 
portrait of Lamb by the American artist 
Van der Lyn, " Van Balen " may be an error 
for his name, due either to stammering of 
the name or to Lamb's playfulness. 

Van der Lyn was a friend and countryman 
of N. P. Willis, whose impressionist pen- 
portrait of Lamb is indubitably fine. 

Lamb seems to have had a knack of re- 
christening artists especially, in his letters at 
least, where H. Meyer becomes Myers. 


17 Kockmount Road, Upper Norwood. S.E.19. 

TOULMIN. According to the 'D.N.B.' 
the Rev. Joshua Toulmin, D.D. [Harvard], 
the Nonconformist historian and biographer 
who d. 1815, was son of Caleb Toulmin of 
Aldersgate Street, London. Can any one 
give me the names of his mother and her 
parents, or explain Dr. Toulmin's exact 
relationship with his kinsman Dr. Samuel 
Morton Savage ('D.N.B.'), 1721-91, who 
had an " Uncle Toulmin " with whom he 
studied medicine for a short time in Wapping; 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. MAY 1. 192* 

or with Joshua Toulmin Smith ('D.N.B.'), 
1816-69, the writer and constitutional lawyer 
who is said to have been named after his 
great-grandfather, Dr. Joshua Toulmin ? 

20 Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.14. 

NICHOLAS;? BROWN (buried at Bolton, 
co. Northumberland, Aug. 21, 1716), son of 
William Brown of Ewart, co. Northumber- 
land (buried Sept. 23, 1712), by Margaret 
(buried Sept. 20, 1728), daughter of Adam 

Smith of Scremerston, married Joan , 

who was buried at Bolton Dec. 17, 1714. 

Who were the parents of Joan ? Who 

was the mother of Margaret Smith ? Was 
Adam Smith any kin to the author of ' The 
Wealth of Nations ' ? 


MARTEN ARMS. I should be glad of 
information regarding the arms of Sir Henry 
Marten, who signed the death warrant of 
Charles I. The arms have apparently been 
lost for several generations. J. K. 

CENTURY. Villari relates of Borso, the first 
Duke of Ferrara, that his fame was so 
widespread that the Indians sent him rich 

E resents supposing him to be the King of 
baly. What is the authority for this ? 'Is 
it in Guicciardini ? Where can I find 
particulars of intercourse between Italy and 
India in the fifteenth century ? 


TOMS OR THOMS : NIAS. Could any reader 
give me particulars of any persons of these 
names in the seventeenth and eighteenth 
centuries or earlier ? Some were, I believe, 
ironmasters at Newbury in the seventeenth 
century. Please reply direct. 

H. R. NIAS. 

The Thatched Cottage, Iffley, Oxon. 

CODDINGTON. John Beauchamp of Lon- 
don, writing to relations in New England in 
1649, mentions " my brother Coddington." 
Who was this Coddington ? C. B. A. 

ARTHUR POLE, son of Geoffrey Pole, was a 
young man of 25 years of age in 1600, and 
had been brought up from his childhood in 
the house of the then lately deceased Cardinal 
Alessandro Farnese ; and in that year the 
Duke of Parma was endeavouring to get a 
Cardinal's hat for him ('Cal. S.P. Span., 
1587-1603,' at pp. 670, 671, and cf. US. 
iii. 45). He is said to have been " slain s.p. 
Rome" (11 S. iii. 112), but apparently in 

160lFthere wasfa scheme for marrying him 
to Lady Arabella Stuart (A. N. Amelot de la 
Houssaie, ' Lettres du Card. D'Ossat,' 
iii. 446). This scheme is said to have been 
favoured by the Pope and the King of Spain. 
But was not Lady Arabella a Protestant ? 
When was Arthur Pole slain, and where can* 
I find further particulars about him and his- 
brother Geoffrey, who is not to be confused 
with Geoffrey Pole of Wirrall (US. iii. 154) ? 

PIGOTT. Can any correspondent of 
' N. & Q.' give me the name of the first wife 
of John Pigott, lieutenant in 39th, 36th, and 
74th Regiments of Foot, who married 
secondly, in 1764, in Compton Chamberlaine r 
Wilts, to Jane Bennett, and state where? 
first marriage took place ? 

Manor House, Dundrum, co. Down. 

I shall be grateful for any information about 
Thurstan atte Wode of Keymer, who died 
May 2, 1539, seized of lands in Keymer and 
Cuckfield. His descendants used the same- 
arms as the Woods of West Hoathly, who 
came from Clayton, of which parish Keymer 
formed part in the sixteenth century* 
Were the Keymer and Clayton families 
connected, and, if so, how ? When did the 
Keymer family settle at Ockley ? Were they 
originally from Hailsham ? 

F. L. WOOD. 

17 Girdlers Koad, W.14. 

wanted as to the date and place of marriage 

of a John Lightfoot and Anchoret. 

He was established in trade in Birmingham,, 
1765, but is believed to have been a native 
of London. L. T. 

' A NEW VIEW OF LONDON, 1708 ' : 
AUTHORSHIP. This very useful and familiar 
work, in 2 vols., 8vo, is usually identified as- 
having been compiled by '' Edward Hatton." 
Possibly this is derived from ' The English 
Topographer, 1720,' wherein Richard Raw- 
linson says, p. 128 : 

" The next and last concerning this City, &c.- 
was compiled by Mr. Edward Hatton, Gent., 
whose skill though plain iu many Things of his- 
work, is Evidently defective in others particularly 
where he gives us his monumental Inscriptions,, 
which are very erroneously taken." 

The book itself does not afford any 
indication of its editor's identity, the long, 
preface being an attempt to justify the- 
omission of many epitaphs and the inevitable- 

12 s. vi. MAY i, Mao.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


liberal use of preceding authors, such as 
Stow, Howel, Camden, &c. A copy befor 
me and two others that I have seen have in a 
contemporary hand " Compiled by Adams.' 
This may be worthless, but it is singular tha 
John Worrall ( ' Bibliotheca Topographica 
Anglicana,' 1736, p. 39) and Gough do no 
follow Rawlinson's identification of it 
compiler, but enter the work as anonymous 
Is there any other origin or support for the 
Edward Hatton attribution ? The book 
already recognised as eminently useful, wil 
in time be accepted as the best of its kinc 
in the post-Stow pre-nineteenth-century 

51 Rutland Park Mansions, N.W.2. 

executed bronze of William Shakespeare 
which bears the inscription " Droits Reserves 
J. KALMAR." I should be glad to know its 
date, and anything regarding the sculptor. 


NOUCHETTE. One off the popular writers 
of fiction recently was Miss Rosa Nouchette 
Carey. The middle name being an unusua 
one some one perhaps may be able to say 
whether it is a Christian name or a secondary 
family name ? R. B. 


ZEUS AND CHI. Davenport Adams in 
'Famous Caves and Catacombs,' speaking 
of the Cave of Trophonius, says : 

" The majority of travellers, however, seem to 
agree with Pouqueville that at the entrance of the 
genuine and veritable prophetic grotto is engraved 
on the rock the password Chibolet (XIBOABT, 
or, according to others, ZETS BOTAAIO2, Jove 
the Counsellor) a fragment of an inscription of 
which the remainder is illegible." 

Are there any inscriptions or references 
in Greek literature to Zeus in the form of 

Over-bye, Church Cobham, Surrey. 

be much obliged if some one could give me 
information regarding Hester Whitelocke, 
daughter of Sir Bulstrode Whitelocke, and 
her descendants. She was baptized on 
Aug. 13, 1642, and married Carbery Pryse of 
Gogerddan, and gave birth to Sir Carbery 
Pryse, bart., of Gogerddan, who died in 1694. 
After the death of her first husband she 
married a Scawen of Wales, and there is 
information to the effect that, on her 
application, Sir Carbery 's will, which was 
proved in January, 1694-95, was "revoked 
and administration granted on Aug. 8th, 

1696, to his mother Hester Scawen alias 

When did Hester Whitelocke marry 
Carbery Pryse and Scawen ? When and 
where did she die ? Who was Scawen, and 
when did he die ? What happened to his 
children by Hester Whitelocke and whom 
did they marry and when, and where did 
they live ? M. H. PRYCE. 

8 Brandon Road, Sout.hsea. 

If any reader can furnish a clue which will 
help me to identify the following surnames 
that are to be found in the MS. Eton School 
Lists, I shall be greatly obliged : 

Cousens 1783-84 Dennis 1768-74 

Coventry 1767-69 Dennis 1776-77 

Cowan 1788-90 Denton, 

Cox, John William 1763 

Saville 1760-65 Derring 1787-90 

Cracraft 1778-SO Dillon 1753-54 

Cunningham, Donaldson, 

Anthony 1759-63 John 1761-62 

Curtis, John 1760-64 Douglas, 

Curtis, Michael William 1758-60 

Atkins 1760-64 Douglas 1780-83 

Dalling 1781-82 Downes 1777-80 

Dalling 1787-90 Downing 1766-68 

Darby, Drake, 

William 1763-66 Richard 1764-65 

Dash wood 1783-88 Drake, Roger 1764-65 

Davenport 1779 Draper 1775-78 

Dawes 17*7-53 Drew 1759-62 

Dean 1790 Dun bar 1786-87 

Oeare 1782-85 Durell 1777-79 

Deare 1785-86 Earle, Charles 1762-66 

R, A. A.-L. 

CISTERCIAN ABBESS. Did these wear as 
insignia of office a golden cross of any special 
pattern ? E. E. COPE. 


Can any reader give information as to 
where Murdoch is buried, the name of his 
wife, whether he has any descendants living, 
his connexion with Tallyrand, and if any 
portrait of him exists ? R. M. HOGG. 

Irvine, Ayrshire. 

L am trying to collect notes relating to this 
'amily. I am acquainted with at least three 
tranches, all of whom, independently of 
each other, hold the tradition that they are 
the descendants of an Italian refugee, Count 
Maffei, who landed in Hampshire about the 
year 1700. I can actually trace them to a 
period forty or fifty years later. There were 
Vlaffeys at Dinton* Wilts, in 1746, and qthers 
at Idmiston, also Wilts, in 1740. These 
branches still exist, and are not acquaints 


NOTES AND Q UERIES. [12 s. vi. MAY i, 1920. 

with each other, though holding the common 
tradition. I have also isolated notes of other 
Maffeys in South Wilts and South Hants 
from the year 1668 (at Whiteparish, Wilts). 
In 1736 Francis Scipio Maffei, Marquis of 
Verona, already F.R.S., was created D.C.L. 
at Oxford. He died in 1755, aged 80. I 
should be very grateful if any reader could 
enlighten me in any way about this family. 

Rowner Rectory, Gosport. 

reader acquainted with Irish genealogy 
.kindly inform me : 

1. Who were the parents and grandparents 
of John Cooke ol Dublin, Esq. (1699-1749), 
who married the Hon. Letitia Caulfield, 
daughter of William, 2nd Viscount Charle-, 
mont ? 

2. Where his son William resided, whom 
he married, and the names of his issue ? 

3. Whether this branch of tho Cookes is 
directly related to the Carlow family who, 
for distinguished military service during the 
Jacobite wars, received " the style and title 
forever " of the Cookes of the Cavaliers ? 


DE CELLE. In 1792 a Count De Celle lived 
at 11 Great Cumberland Street, London. 
Can any reader give me information regarding 
the family of this gentleman ? 


91 Brown Street, Salisbury. 

AND SALISBURY HALL. I am writing a 
monograph on these two manors for "the 
Vfalthamstow Antiqimrian Society, and 
should be glad if anyone who has informa- 
tion about them would communicate with 
me or give the information in the columns of 

24 Church Hill Road, Walthamstow, E.17. 

DARNELL AND THORP. Can any reader 
supply me with references to the family 
connexions of the two Durham and North- 
umberland families of Darnell and Thorp, 
giving special references to the two rectors 
of Byton bearing the latter name ? 


11 Ravensbourne Terrace, South Shields, 

HOMAN CATHOLIC. Is there any published 
"work that gives a list of the clergymen of 
the Church of England, who have left that 
Church for the Church of Rome, or vice versa, 
or of Nonconformists who have jomed either 
of the above, or vice versa ? I. F. 

THE CAVEAC TAVERN. Anent his highly 
interesting records, can MR. PAUL DE 
CASTRO kindly tell me anything about the 
old Caveac Tavern which stood in Spread- 
Eagle Court, Finch Lane, E.G. ? It is 
supposed to have been erected about 
1700, and razed about 1800 ? (See ante, 
10 S. hi. 29; viii. 116.) Is it possible to 
locate its exact position ? 


Junior Athenaeum Club. 

DIVINE. I should be glad to learn anything 
about his mother. The ' D.N.B.,' vol. xxiii., 
p. 370, does not even give her Christian name. 

G. F. R. B. 

LACAUX. I should be glad to obtain any 
information about Michael Lacaux and Peter 
Lacaux, who were admitted to Westminster 
School in 1728, aged 16 and 10 respectively. 

G. F. R. B. 

MARSH. I should be glad to obtain 
information about the following Marshs who 
were educated at Westminster School : 

1. Henry Marsh, admitted in 1722, aged 8. 

2. John Marshe, who graduated M.A. at 
Camb. Univ. from Trin. Coll. in 1627. 

3. Richard Marsh, who graduated B.A. 
at Oxford Univ. from Ch. Ch., Feb. 14, 
1653/4, and 

4. William Marsh, admitted in 1737, 

!. G. F. R. B. 

MAYNARD. I should be glad to obtain 
information about the following Maynards, 
who were educated at Westminster School : 

1. Charles, admitted in 1730, aged 9. 

2. John, admitted in 1730. aged 8. 

3. Robert, who is said io have been at the 
school in 1736. G. F. R. B. 

concerning this biographer will oblige. The 
biography in question was printed in Dublin 
1805, an 8vo volume. 


Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon. 

the ' Advancement of Learning ' Bacon writes 
that it is the part of a lover rather than a wise 
man to say " Satis magnum alter alteri theatrum 
sumus," but he gives no reference of any sort. 
Where does this quotation come from ? It is a 
pretty exact prose equivalent of Tibullus's " In 
solis tu mihi turba locis " the ideal lovers 
sentiment. JAMES EDWARD HOGG. 

12 s. vi. MAY i, i92o.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 



(12 S. vi. 110.) 

;SoME light on the movements of the 
Portuguese ambassadors in London is 
supplied by the L.C.C. ' Survey of London ' 
('St. Giles-in-the-Fields,' pts. i. and ii.). In 
1641 the ambassador was residing in 
Lincoln's Inn Fields, and Sir Lawrence 
Gomme thought it probable that the house 
was on the south side, which gave it the 
name of Portugal Bow (not Street). Sir 
Basil Brooke, Papist and Cavalier, had two 
houses on that side of the Square, nos. 41 
.and 42 (now covered by the buildings of the 
Royal College of Surgeons), and in December, 
1645, the Commonwealth ordered the search 
of the ambassador's house " or other 
adjoining houses belonging to Sir Basil 
Brooke, a convicted Papist and delinquent," 

and the seizure of plate, money, and goods 
supposed to be there belonging to Sir Basil. 

In 1659 the ambassador was residing in 
Weld House, a large mansion owned by the 
Catholic family to which Cardinal Weld 
belonged. Weld House (afterwards called 
Wild House) stood on the east side of Drury 
Lane, adjacent to Great Wild Street. It was 
pulled down in 1694 and its site and gardens 

covered with mean streets. The Portuguese 
ambassador was still residing at Weld House 
in 1665, but had left by 1666, perhaps on 
account of the Plague. 

There is a gap here, but in 1689 the 
.ambassador was living at the house on the 
west side of Lincoln's Inn Fields which, until 
it was pulled down in the L.C.C. Clare 
Market Improvement Scheme eleven years 
ago, had an archway under it leading into 
Sardinia Street. This house, with a chapel 
in the rear, in 1687 was leased for ten years 
by a community of Franciscans. After the 
flight of James II. the London mob, on the 
night of Dec. 11, 1688, gutted this chapel, 
.and burned the contents in the square 
opposite, the Franciscan monks having 
escaped a few days before. It was after 
this destruction that the house and chapel 
were taken by the Portuguese ambassador, 
who in virtue of his privileges as an envoy 
had the right to maintain a private Roman 
Catholic chapel. He remained there until 
1708, and was succeeded by the Sardinian 
minister, whose long residence there caused 
the chapel to be known as the Sardinian 
Ohapel. It was burned down (accidentally) 

in 1759 and attacked by the Gordon rioters 
in 1780. Both the mansion and the chapel 
were demolished in 1909. 

In 1718 the Portuguese ambassador was 
occupying a mansion which had previously 
formed the eastern half of Bristol House, 
Great Queen Street (now covered by the 
Freemasons Tavern). Sir Godfrey Kneller, 
the painter, was the owner, and the am- 
bassador appears on the rate-books of 
Westminster at that address until 1723. It 
should be added that in the seventeenth and 
eighteenth centuries this part of London 
was full of mansions of the nobility and 
gentry. ROBT. S. PENGELLY. 

CUTED : GEORGE STOCKER (12 S. vi. 56). 
MR. STOCKER writes : 

" In 1851 his name occurs more than once 
among the ' Pilgrims from England to liome ' 
(' Collectanea Typographica et Genealogica,' 
vol. ii. p. 79.)" 

In ' Collectanea Topographica et Genea- 
logica,' vol. v., p. 70, I find that he was 
received as a guest at the English College at 
Rome on Feb. 24, 1582, and is described as 
of the diocese of York. So we may take it 
that he was neither of Cornwall nor of Devon, 
and it is certain that he was not a priest 
and was not executed. MR. STOCKER gives 
no reference to the letter from Creighton to 
Agazzari (not Aggazia) to which he alludes, 
nor even the date of it. Perhaps he could 
supply these details. It is true that 
Agazzari was informally appointed to be 
head of the new English College at Rome in 
March, 1579 ; but the College itself was not 
canonically founded till April 23, 1579, and, 
owing to some practical difficulties and the 
attitude of the members of the old corpora- 
tion, the bull was not published until 
Dec. 23 of the year following, 1580. (See 
Cardinal Gasquet's 'English College in 
Rome,' pp. 75, sqq.) 

I do not know on what grounds MR. 
STOCKER asserts that George Stocker, Robert 
Bellamy, and Thomas Heath were arrested 
on suspicion of complicity in the Babington 
plot. They were not among those indicted. 
Both Elizabeth and Katharine Bellamy had 
indictments brought against them, but were 
not brought to trial. 

On Feb. 7, 1587/8. "at the Starre 
Chamber," the Privy Councillors present 
sent a letter to Sir Owen Hopton and 
others : 

" That whereas George Stoker, presentlie re- 
mayning in the Towre, being latelie apprehended 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. MAT 1. 192* 

not long before come from th' ennemy out of the 
Low Countryes, having twice allreadie escaped ; 
Forasmuch as he was knowne to have been a 
pensioner of the King of Spaines, and one will 
affected to her Majestie and the present State, 
it was to be probablie conjectured that his 
repaire into this Eealme was for some secrett 
practise or other notable mischiefe by him to be 
wrought, they are herebie aucthorised and 
required forthwith uppon the receipt hereof to 
conferre with him to declare the cause of his 
repaire thither, and likewise to examine him 
uppon certaine interrogatories by them to be 
framed for the better discoverie of the truth ; 
whereuppon if they should perceave that he should 
refuse to declare for what cause and to what end 
he came into this Realme, then it is thought meete 
that they putt him to the torture of the Hacke, 
thereby the better to withdraw from him the 
knowledg of his wicked intent and purpose, and 
likewise secretlie to examine all such suspected 
personnes as he hath had conference with since 
his repaire hither into England, and all such as 
they could finde have been privy to his doinges, 
and to committ them to prison or safe custodie 
according as they should see good cause there- 

See Dasent, 'Acts of the Privy Council,' 
xv. 365. 

What is known of Stocker's two previons 

F. A. Crisp's 'Memorial Rings,' privately 
printed (London), and G. F. Kunz's ' Rings ' 
(Lippincott), 1917, both give chapters on 
memorial rings which will interest your 
correspondent. ARCHIBALD SPARKE. 

(12 S. vi, 68). The British Museum Cata- 
logue describes this as a " fictitious " pro- 
duction, -written to defend the King's 
conduct toward Queen Caroline after his 
accession. Halkett and Laing attribute it to 
Wasborough, but Cushing's ' Anonyms ' gives 
it to Croker. The latter undoubtedly has 
strong claims to the authorship, considering 
his forensic and literary attainments, and 
his intimate association with such politicians 
as Percival, Canning, and Peel ; to say 
nothing of the fact that after his appoint- 
ment to the Admiralty Croker, according to 
the 'D.N.B.,' "was numbered among the 
friends of the Prince of Wales, with whom 
he was always a favourite." Appended to 
the letter is an Apology by the author, 
followed by the opinion of a legal authority, 
emanating from the Temple, to the effect 
that the publication is exempt from any 
consequences of the Statute of Prcemunire. 
This again is followed by a lengthy announce- 
ment, included in the same pamphlet, of a 
new weekly journal, The Brunswick, to be 
issued on Feb. 4, 1821, intended to sustain 

the cause and popularity of the House oft 
Brunswick : "on the important subject 
which has so long agitated the public mind,, 
they (the proprietors) adopt the sentiments 
contained in the preceding letter." 

That the signer of this advertisement, 
Montague Williams, whoever he may have- 
been, is not likely to have disguised his- 
name as "Wasborough," its opening para- 
graph makes tolerably clear, as he speaks 
of being 

convinced of the disinterested loyalty of the 
gentleman whose pen has produced the fore- 
going letter ; knowing that what he writes is the- 
expression of his real thought and opinions ;. 
knowing also that he is no pensioned scribe, or 
ever will be ; and that his attachment to the 
King and Constitution is voluntary and un- 
bought, ardent and independent." 

It is noteworthy that the letter was- 
published by William Turner, stationer to-- 
His Majesty at 69 Cheapside. 

N. W. HILL. 

CELTIC PATRON SAINTS (12 S. vi. 110). 
In reply to L. G. R., quotable authoritative 
works to consult are : 

1. The Rev. Rice Rees's 'Essay on Welsh/ 
Saints ' or ' Lives of Primitive Saints chiefly 
considered to have been Founders of 
Churches in Wales.' 

2. The Rev. W. J. Rees's 'Lives of 
Cambro-British Saints.' Both works are 
now rare. 

3. The more modern, completer in detail 
and fulness of information, ' Lives of. 
British Saints, embracing Wales, Cornwall, 
and such Irish Saints as have Dedications- 
in Britain,' by the Rev. S. Baring Gould, 
and Canon John Fisher, in 4 vols. (1907-13). 
The last work ranks high, and unquestionably 
betrays thorough, expert workmanship. 

4. The sixteenth and final volume of" 
Baring Gould's 'Lives of the Saints' a, 
separate production which winds up with a,' 
dissertation on Cornish and Welsh saints. 


I think L. G. R. would find useful informa- 
tion in the appendix volume of Baring - 
Gould's 'Lives of the Siants,' wherein 
160 pp. are devoted to 'A Keltic and. 
English Kalendar of Saints proper to the 
Welsh, Cornish, Scottish, Irish, Breton, and 
English Saints.' Albert le Grand's ' Les 
Vies des Saints de la Bretagne Armoriquo ' 
is also a book to be recommended ; and, 
Frances Arnold-Forster's ' Studies in Church 
Dedications,' though mainly of those in 
England, may be consulted with advantage. 


12 S. VI.MAY 1, 1920.] 



L. G. R. would probably find the following 
works of use : 

Le Grand, ' Saints de la Bretagne 
Armorique ' (Quimper, 1901). 

Borlase, ' Age of the Saints ' (Truro, 1893). 

Rees, ' Welsh Saints ' (London, 1836). 


"THE LAME DEMON" (12 S. vi. 110). 
The demon is Asmodee, the tale ' Le Diable 
boiteux.' Lesage was an early favourite 
with Dickens, ' Gil Bias ' being among the 
"glorious host" who kept David Copper- 
field's fancy alive under the Murdston 
tyranny. In the days, or nights, of David's 
story-telling at Salem House it was a jest of 

" to pretend that he couldn't keep his teeth from 
chattering, whenever mention was made of an 
Alguazil in connexion with the adventures of 
Gil Bias ; and I remember that when Gil Bias 
met the captain of the robbers in Madrid, this 
unlucky joker counterfeited such an ague of 
terror, that he was overheard by Mr. Creakle, 
who was prowling about the passage, and hand- 
somely flogged for disorderly conduct in the 

When the younger Martin Chuzzlewit had 
flung himself out of Pecksniff's house with 
the intention of walking all the way to 
London, the book which Tom Pinch pressed 
upon him proved to be an odd volume of the 
'Bachelor of Salamanca.' The coughing of 
Cymon Tuggs behind the curtain in ' Sketches 
by Boz ' is not improbably a reminiscence of 
'Gil Bias,' while the corresponding incident 
in Lesage may well have been suggested by 

Oudle Cottage, Much Hadham, Herts. 

RUSSELL also thanked for replies.] 

THE BASKETT BIBLE (12 S. vi. 110). The 
British Museum Catalogue shows the follow 
ing editions of the Baskett Bibles : 

Printed by Thomas Baskett (Oxford and 
London) 1745, 6, 7, 9, 1750, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 
8, 9, 1760, 1, 2. The New Testament of the 
last edition (1762) bears the imprint of Mark 

Printed by Mark Baskett (Oxford and 
London) 1763, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 

It may be assumed from this that Mark 
was the successor of Thomas, as Thoma, 
was of John Baskett, and this is partlj 
verified by Madan's ' Chart of Oxford 
Printing ' (Bibliographical Society), froir 
which the following names and dates ar 
taken : Mark Baskett, 1715 ; John Baskett 
1715-42 ; Robert Baskett, 1742-44 ; Thoma 

Baskett, 1742-62 ; Mark Baskett, 1762-65,. 
>om the 'D.N.B.,' Cotton's 'Editions of 
he Bible,' and other sources, I gather that 
here is a remarkable bibliographical mystery- 
associated with the name of Mark Baskett, 
viz. : that various editions bearing his 
mprint ("London: printed by Mark Bas- 
cett, printer to the King's most excellent 
Majesty ") were really printed at Boston,, 
about 1752. The story, as given in 
Thomas's ' History of Printing in America,' 
s very minute and circumstantial, and states- 
,hat the edition was carried through tho- 
jress as privately as possible, and had the 
Condon imprint in order to prevent a 
prosecution. If the story is true, then this 
edition is the first Bible printed in America . 
n the English language. However, no- 
Bible dated 1752 from the press of Mark 
Baskett can be found, his name first appear - 
ng in imprints about 1762. 

The John Rylands Library Catalogue of 
die Tercentenary Exhibition of the Autho--- 
rized Version of the English Bible (1911) 
states that a Bible printed at Philadelphia 
in 1782 by R. Aitken was 

' probably the first complete English Bible 
printed in America. The copy in the British 
Vluseum contains a note in Aitken's writing, 
which certifies it to be the first copy of the first 
edition of the Bible ever printed in America in . 
the English language." 


According to Leslie's ' Memoirs of the Lif6 
of John Constable,' Golding Constable, the 
artist's father, married Miss Ann Watts. 
She was the sister of David Pike Watts, a 
wealthy wine merchant of London, who died 
July 29, 1816, aged 62. His only daughter 
married Jesse Watts Russell of Ham Hall, 
Ashbourne. David Pike Watts was buried, 
at St. John's Wood, and his monument by 
Chantrey is one of the great attractions of . 
Ham Church. G. F. R. B. 

[MK. ARCHIBALD SPAKKE also thanked for reply.] 

HAWKE'S FLAGSHIP IN 1759 (12 S. vi. 110). 
The Court and City Register for 1759 and 
1760 gives Rear- Admiral Holmes as carrying 
his flag on board the Royal Sovereign o " 
100 guns, she being one of the three " First 
Rates," the others being the Royal Anne, 100 > 
(Capt. Sir Wm. Burnaby), and the Royal 
George, 100 (Capt. Rich. Dorrill). Sir 
Edward Hawke had his flag on the Ramillies, . 
a "second rate" of 90 guns. The Gent.- 
Mag., 1759, prints Hawke's dispatch, dated 
Royal George off Penris Point, Nov. 24,. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. MAY i, 1920. 

1759, giving a " List of Ships with Sir Edw. 
Hawke," at the head of which is the " Royal 
George, 100 guns, 880 men, Admiral Hawke." 
It further gives an " Extract of a Letter from 
-& . Chaplain of one of his Majesty's Ships, 
dated from Quiberon Bay, Nov. 25, 1759," 
which contains this statement : 

" On the 14th of November Sir Edward Hawke 
hoisted his flag on board the Royal George in 
Torbay, where the fleet had put in a few days 
. before through stress of weather." 

Talybout, Brecon. 

136). I am now able to give the references 
which, owing to absence from home, had to 
/be omitted in my last letter. 

Chaucer, in that roundel which Skeat calls 
*Merciles Beaute,' says (Student's edition, 
j>. 121): 

Love hath my name y-strike out of his sclat. 
and in the Astrolabe (ib., p. 416) : 
Entere hit in-to thy slate. 

The use of chalk for recording tavern 
scores (not, however, on a slate) is mentioned 
in the ' Return from Parnassus,' pt. i. 
(ed. Macray, p. 39) : 

All my debts stand chalked upon the post for 

Fryer in his ' Account of East India ' (1698, 
p. 112) mentions : 

"aboard plastered over which with cotton they 
wipe out when it is full as we do from slates or 
table books." 

Johnson in his ' Dictionary,' 1765, defines 
" slate " as : 

"a grey fossile stone easily broken into thin plates 
which are used to cover houses or to write upon." 
Horace Walpole, in a letter dated Nov. 15, 
1781, explains the illegibility of his writing 
toy the gout in his hand, and adds : 

" Soon, mayhap, I- must write upon a slate ! it 
will only be scraping mv fingers to a point and 
they will serve for a chalk pencil." 

As late as 1821 Charles Lamb (in 'Mrs. 
Battle's Opinions on Whist ') mentions 
"chalk and a slate." 

Slates had been used by Pestalozzi at 
Burgdorf towards the close of the eighteenth 
century, but Lancaster certainly knew 
nothing of him in 1803 ; even a zealous 
reformer like Wilderspin almost boasted 
that he had not heard of him in 1820. 

It is interesting to learn from MB. BLOOM'S 

letter that sand has been used within living 

memory. Dr. Andrew Bell saw it used by 

the natives on the Malabar Coast and intro- 

duced it about 1791 into the Military Male 

Asylum at Egmore, near Madras, of which 
he was superintendent. Lancaster saw a 
description of it in Bell's 'Experiment in 
Education' (1798) and adopted it in his 
Borough Road School about 1803. It 
spread thence into all schools on his system 
and after the establishment of the National 
Society in 1811, with Dr. Bell as super- 
intendent, it was employed in all National 


At the last reference MB. J. HARVEY 
BLOOM says that slate pencils can hardly 
have come into use until the period of modern 
lead pencils, viz., early in the nineteenth 
century. But "modern lead pencils," that 
is, pencils cased in wood, are much older 
than that. The 'O.E.D.' quotes, under 

date 1683 : " Black Lead of late is 

curiously formed into cases of Deal or Cedar, 
and so sold as dry Pencils." The date of the 
first use of slate pencils is probably as old 
and I do not see why it should not be older. 
In Dyche's 'New General English Diction- 
ary ' (1744), " pencil " is various defined, but 
one definition is : "A small, long, thin piece 
of slate to write with on a broad flat slate." 
It does not seem likely that this use was not 
known in schools before Lancaster's time. 
We were not allowed to use slates in a school 
I attended in the sixties, I suppose because 
they led to slovenly ways of working. 

C. C. B. 

BUBIAL AT SEA : MILDMAY (12 S. vi. 95). 
I am anxious to trace, for entry in a memoir 
of the Mildmay family, the " Mr. Milclmay " 
referred to. No information can be got at 
the Admiralty Library and the Ships Muster 
Books at the Public Record Office do not go 
further back than 1745. Could MB. ANSTEY 
say where the log of the Tavistock could be 
seen, or whether that or Marine Records give 
further information ? H. A. ST J. M. 

" COCKAGEE " : "CYPBESS " (12 S. vi. 40, 
97). The solution suggested by some of 
your correspondents that " Cockagee " being 
the name of a cider apple, the label bearing 
that name was used to distinguish cider of a 
particular make is, I feel sure, the correct 
one. But the suggestion of others that 
" Cypress " was merely a mis-spelling of 
" Cyprus " does not commend itself to me. 

There is no trace about these labels of 
illiteracy, as there might well be if they were 
carelessly hand-painted in rough lettering. 
On the contrary, they all appear to be 
enamelled in well executed print above the 

12 s. vi. MAY i, 1920.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


glaze. To my mind, it is more probable 
that " Cypress " was the name of another 
-apple or pear, used for a different class of 
cider or perry. 

MB BRADBURY suggests that these labels 
were intended to be hung round the necks 
of wine bottles or decanters. That, however, 
is impossible ; they are of thick earthenware, 
;are 5J ins. in length, and were obviously 
intended to hang above a wine bin, and 
indeed in some cases have a hole intended for 
the supporting nail. I should say they were 
supplied by the wine merchant from whom 
the cider or other drink was bought ; and 
"this is another reason why it is unlikely that 
'"Cypress " stands for "Cvprus." 

il Gloucester Place, Portman Square, W. 

CANTRELL FAMILY (12 S. v. 291, 332 ; 
"vi. 95). " Scholaichse " on Thomas Cantrell's 
monument is obviously for Scholarchce, 
head master of (Derby) school, and the same 
-word is concealed in " Scholar : che " in the 
quotation from the Register of Burials at 
St. Peter's ; "Darb." at the latter reference 
ijeing equal to " Derbiensis " at the former. 

'Queen's College, Oxford. 

' ANNE OF GEIERSTEIN ' (12 S. vi. 90, 136). 
10. The reference to Palemon is a bad 
slip. It is to that " pride of swains " the 
Palemon of Thomson's ' Seasons ' (see 
' Autumn '), who plays the part of Boaz to 
Lavinia's 'Ruth.' He was not "old," for 
lie is *pokeii of as "the Youth," and there 
is no sueh line as Scott inserts in the poem. 
Obviously King Rene cannot have him in 
mind, and it is to be supposed that Scott in 
'his reference mentally confused him with 
Boaz. C. C. B. 

GREAT (12 S. vi. 130). Reading the quota- 
tion by WESSEX of the weight of the granite 
block upon which the equestrian statue of 
Peter the Great was placed in Petrograd, 
one is 'temp ted to fear that the equivalent of 
a ton has gone (the way of the rouble and 
^decreased almoafc sto extinction. The weight 
of the stone never -.was "over 15,000 tons," 
; but has been estimated! at about 1,500 tons. 
'The measurements oniginally were 45 ft. 
long, 30 ft. high, 25 ft. wide. In shaping the 
mass it broke, the measurements are now 
43 ft. long, 14 ft. high, and 20 ft. wide. 
'This erratic block of granite originally lay 
at Lakhta, a village near to the mouth of the 
.Nevka, the most northern outlet of 

the Neva, and on the north shore of the 
Gulf of Finland. The alluvial deposit on 
the site of St. Petersburg is 600 ft. deep. 
In the Academy of Arts, among a collection 
of drawings and engravings of the time of 
Catharine II., who erected the monument to 
Peter the Great in 1782, I remember seeing 
an illustration of how the stone was trans- 
ported. Windlasses and ropes laboriously 
dragged the great weight over cannon balls 
rolling on an iron tramway ; a drummer in 
the picturesque uniform of the Pavlovsky 
Regiment is depicted on the top of the 
block, beating time to unite the efforts of the 
five hundred men, who took five weeks to 
bring it to the south shore of the main 
stream of the Neva, where, opposite the 
north side of the cathedral of St. Isaac, but 
much nearer the river bank, the monument 
is' erected. Whatever route was taken a 
considerable expanse of water must have 
been crossed which in those days could only 
have been accomplished in the depth of 

The reason why so much trouble was taken 
to procure this particular piece of granite 
was because the Great Tsar was accustomed 
to stand on it when at Lakhta, and watched 
on one occasion the defeat of a Swedish 
fleet. It was at Lakhta, in 1724, at personal 
risk, he saved some fishermen from drown- 
ing, which episode is portrayed in another 
monument, erected on the Admiralty Quay 
on the occasion of the bi-centenary of the 
foundation of St. Petersburg. It was on the 
occasion of this rescxie that Peter contracted 
the illness which was the cause of his death 
in the following January. 

Another fine piece of red granite and a 
wonderful monument is that erected in 1832 
to Alexander I. The monolith itself is 
84 ft. high and 14 ft. in diameter and weighs 
nearly 400 tons. The monument which 
stands in the centre of the great square 
opposite the Winter Palace, has a total 
height of 154 ft. 9 in., and rests on a mass 
of wooden piles driven into the alluvial sand. 

Chelston Hall, Torquay. 

The immense stone that was made to 
serve as a pedestal for the equestrian statue 
of Peter the Great was a well-known object 
at Lachta, a village on the Gulf of Cronstadt. 
More than once had the great Peter climbed 
it, when he wished to get a view of his 
surroundings, and this was the reason 
perhaps why Catherine II. determined to 
transport it to Petrograd, It lay fifteen feet 



deep in the earth, and was thickly carpeted 
withinoss ; a road had to be cut through the 
forest to convey it to the coast. The block 
was moved by means of copper wheels that 
ran upoM a line of the same metal ; a hundred 
peasants were employed to work the cranes 
(Winden) and the Empress appeared in 
person in February, 1770, to encourage them 
in their Titanic undertaking. So interested 
was she in their efforts that she had a medal 
struck representing the operation and bearing 
the inscription: "Bordering upon folly." 
In the course of its journey the stone settled 
down comfortably five times in the lap of 
mother earth, but in the autumn it had 
reached the coast, where it was elevated on 
to a specially constructed jetty (Damm) 
and put upon a vessel that carried it close to 
the ?pot where it was destined to remain. 

There are (or were) two pictures at the 
Hermitage representing the stone's journey 
and its arrival at its destination. I am 
indebted for the above facts to an account 
by Zabel (Leipsic, 1901) of the art treasures 
of the Russian capital. No reference is 
made there to the 80,000 horses mentioned 
by your correspondent. 


Ihe Authors' Club, S.W.I. 

. YALE AND HOBBS (12 S. vi. 130). A full 
account of the " lock controversy " will be 
found in Price's ' A Treatise on Fire and 
Thief-proof Depositories and Locks and 
Keys ' (1856). On p. 750 an extract is given 
from The Banker's Circular for June 22, 
1850, which extract quotes The Ilion 
Independent to the effect that the Day & 
Newell lock, manufactured at .New York, 
commonly known as the " Hobbs lock," has 
at last been picked by Lynus Yale, jun., of the 
adjoining village of Newport. The report 
further gives the modus ope.randi of picking 

v. 318 ; vi. 117). I missed the query at the 
first reference, and cannot just now refer 
to it. My regretted friend Walter Hamilton 
was not only the editor of Pro and Con but 
its principal writer and probably proprietor. 
His papers on the history of the English 
Poets Laureate began in No. 2 (Jan. 15, 
1873) and continued throughout the volume. 
I do not know if W. B. H.'s note of Dec. 20, 
1913, concerning Pro and Con has ever been 
answered, and so I reply to it now as far as 
I can. A new, enlarged, and greatly im- 
proved series of Pro and Con was started in 
January, 1874, but of this I have only 

No. 1 , and I do not know if it was continued- 
It is interesting to note a review in this, 
number of Morris's ' Earthly Paradise,' in 
which the writer, doubtless Walter Hamilton.' 
(although with the first number of the 
second volume the name of the editor ceases 
to be given), says of the poetry of Morris 
that "although now but little known, [it] 
will eventually rank with that of our first 
narrative poets. " W. ROBERTS. 

vi. 131). The motto " Auspicio Regis et 
Senatus Anglise " was that of the East India 
Company. The Company had an Ordnance 
Department in each of its three establish- 
ments at Calcutta, Madras, and Bombay.. 
The Departments were intimately connected 
with that of the Royal Artillery in their early 
days, between 1769, when they were 
originated, and 1821, when they were re- 
organized. They used the same shield of 
arms as a seal and departmental symbol, 
namely, three field guns, two and one, with 
the motto " Sua tela tonanti." This shield 
of arms is over the gate of the Department 
at Woolwich, and also over the old gate of the 
Department at Fort St. George on the 
Coromandel Coast. The motto of the East 
India Company on the buckle-plate seems to 
show that the owner and wearer of the 
buckle was connected with one of the 
Ordnance Departments of the Honourable 
Company. FRANK PENNY. 

FINKLE STREET (12 S. v. 69, 109, 279; 
vi. 25, 114). The quotation from Prof.. 
Skeat given by DR. WHITEHEAD in no. 104 
is a very interesting one. I would ask if he 
knows that in the ancient village of Cal- 
bourne in the Isle of Wight a Winkle Street 
still exists t 

This fact is specially interesting, as- 
Calbourne meets the suggestion that streets 
thus named are found in places where the 
Danes are known to have made some 
settlement. Winkle Street at Calbourne 
fulfils the conditions of being " crooked " 
and "like an elbow"; and consisting of 
but a few old cottages it runs, after a sharp 
turn, by the side of the Bourne, which at its 
opening was entered by the Danes. The 
fine old seat of Swainston is in Calbourne 
Parish, and its name is said to have meant 
"Settlement of the Stranger." 

The Saxon Chronicle tells us that, in the 
reign of Ethelred, the Danes, after plundering 
the mainland, " sailed with their booty to> 
the Isle of Wight,, where they lived at. 

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discretion " ; and it refers also to later 
visits when "they burnt several villages." 
Although Island historians agree that they 
:made no long settlement on the Wight, they 
used it as " an asylum," and the new light 
vthrown in the pages of 'N. & Q.' on the 
origin of Winkle Street makes the survival 
of that name at Calbourne where they are 
known to have been an interesting fact. 

As there is no tradition concerning the 
settlement of the Danish pirates whom 
King Alfred scattered in 897 after they 
plundered the Wight and sailed away in 
their six ships, we may take it that the name 
in this instance dates from the invasion of 
a century later. And it seems an example- of 
continuity in place-names worth recording, 
that a crooked, narrow lane, or rather path, 
in an old village should have been known 
by its inhabitants as Winkle Street for 
:922 years. Y. T. 

MARY JONES (12 S. vi. 68). Allibone, 
vol. i., p. 989, says, qxioting Wharton in 
Boswell's ' Johnson,' Croker's Edition : " She 
was sister to the Rev. River Jones, Chanter of 
'Christ Church Cathedral at Oxford. . . .She 
died unmarried." W. B. S. 

v. 266, 301). At the latter reference MB. 
.J. E. HARTING quotes Henry Drury's Latin 
'translation of ' Hey Diddle Diddle ' from 
' Arundines Cami.' In the fifth edition, 
1860, the third and fourth lines are : 
Spectatum admissus risit sine fine Catellus, 
Et subita rapuit lanx cochleare fuga. 

TVhich is the earlier version I do not know 
as MR. HARTING does not mention the date 
of his copy of the ' Arundines. ' About the 

gender of "dish " in Latin it is interesting 
te note how the lexicographers disagree : 

Laurentius, ' Amalthea Onomastica,' 1640 

Pitiscus, ' Lexicon Antiquitatum Romanarum, 
Mazonomus & Mazonomium. 

.Stephanus, ' Thesaurus,' 1735, Mazonomum. 

Gesnerus, ' Thesaurus,' 1749, Mazonomum. 

Bailey's ' Facciolati,' 1828, Mazonomus. 

Riddle's 'Scheller,' 1835, Mazonomum or Mazo 
nomus (preference given to the neuter). 

Andrews's ' Freund,' 1853, Mazonomus, " ace 
~to others mazonomum, the masc., however, on 
account of the Greek word seems preferable." 

Quicherat, ' Thesaurus Poeticus,' 1893, Mazo 

Of the above-quoted lexicographers thos< 
of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuriei 
favour the neuter, excepting Pitiscus, whose 
lexicon is not mainly " a book! teaching th 
signification of words," and who give 

[azonomium as well as Mazonomus, while 
lose of the nineteenth century, with one 
xception, prefer the masculine form. 

It may be noted that fj.a^ov6/j,iov and 

j,a^ovo/j.Lov appear to have been synonyms 

f the alleged yxaovo/zos (see Taylor's- 

Hederici Lexicon,' 1803 ; Gaisford's 

Suidse Lexicon,' 1834 ; and Liddell and 

scott, 1883). Suidas gives px^ovo/naov only. 

Apparently there is no connexion, as 
uggested at the latter reference, between 
VEazer and Mazonomum or Mazonomus. 
Mazer appears to have been derived from 
he spotted or knotted wood, e.g., maple, 
of which it was made (see Skeat's ' Ety- 
mological Dictionary '), whereas /z<xovo/*os 
was, according to Hederich's lexicon (as 
above), derived from fJM^a and vefjua, which 
accords with Liddell and Scott's " a trencher 
:or serving barley-cakes on." 


JENNEB FAMILY (12 S. v. 238, 323 : 
vi. 116). The entry in the Standish Register 
of 1687 may refer to the President of 
Vlagdalen, Thomas Jenner, for Bloxam says 
that he matriculated at Magdalen College as 
" filius generosi," aged 15, on Feb. 1, 
1703-4. But Bloxam is quite clear that his 
father's name was John. There seems to be 
some uncertainty as to the President's 
Christian name, which Bloxam gives as 
John (in italics). But elsewhere it is given 
as Thomas, or T., as on his gravestone in the 
antechapel of Magdalen, on which he is said 
to have died on Jan. 12, 1768, in the 80th 
year of his age. W. A. B. COOLIDGE, 

Senior Fellow of Magdalen Coll., Oxford. 

BBADSHAW (12 S. vi. 130). One William 
Smith Bradshaw was lieutenant R.N. 
Nov. 4, 1780, but was either dead or had 
retired by Jan. 1, 1783. 


YORK (12 S. vi. 130). Foster's 'Alum. 
Oxon.' gives the date of his birth as Dec. 10, 
1658. J. B. WHITMOBE. 

41 Thurloe Square, S.W.7. 

vi. 109). An Italian jingle : 

Quando pieve a Santa Bibbiana 

Piaverk quaranta giorni ed una settimana. 

is quoted in ' Roba di Roma,' vol. ii., p. 256. 
But I do not know that St. Bibiana has any 
special influence over April ; she is celebrated 
on Dec. 2. ST. SWITHIN. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vi. MAY i, im- 

No MAN'S LAND (12 S. vi. 130). There is 
an earlier instance of the xise of this name in 
'Ann. Paulini de tempore Edw. II.' ('Ann. 
Mon.,' i. 321, in the Rolls Series). A.D. 1326, 
an apparently Spanish wine merchant, 
Arnaud by name, had, for some commercial 
trick of his own, to go bare-footed and 
naked under a plain tunic to a certain place 
" apud Nonemanneslonde," where he had 
his head cut. 

The question is whether the name No 
Man's Land was then, as in our war days, 
indifferently applied to a number of grounds 
without any actual possessor or whether it 
designated the particular spot to which MR. 
JOHN WAINEWRIGHT alludes in his query. 
Was there in London at the time a special 
place reserved for executions, and is it known 
where it was ? PIERRE TURPIN. 

3 Rue des Canonniers, Lille. 

MINSTER (12 S. vi. 65, 129). 11. Joseph 
Damsell and Joanna Kidder, 1690. On 
April 20, 1702, being then described as 
" Joseph Damsell, of the parish of Lambeth, 
Surrey, gent., living near Cupid's Bridge, 
aged 56 years," he gave evidence in the 
Chancery suit Squibb v. Nisbett and Buxton. 
He stated that he lived with William Malthus, 
late of Bedford Street, Middlesex, merchant, 
at the time of the death of the said Malthus 
(Nov. 20, 1700) and for over ten years before 
that date, &c. (Public Record Office, Town 
Depositions, Bundle 1,238). 

12. Robert Silke and Mary Dowse, 1692. 
In 1700 Robert Silke, Mary his wife, and 
John Silke of London, pewterer, were three 
of the dependants to a Bill of Complaint in 
Chancery filed against them by Sarah 
Gregory, wife of Charles Gregory of London, 
merchant, concerning the personal estate of 
her late father, John Steventon (Public 
Record Office, C.5, 210/24). 

14. Thomas Crow and Elizabeth Gill, 
1896-7. Eight children of Thomas Crow 
were baptized at Colyton, Devon : Thomas, 
1697 ; Elizabeth, 1699 ; Betty, 1701 ; Sack- 
feild, 1702-3 ; Grace, 1704-5 ; Susannah, 
1707; William, 1709; and Sarah, 1710-11 
(Publications of the Devon and Cornwall 
Record Society). 

16. William Keylway and Patience Aubery, 
1712-3. She was the daughter of Samuel 
and the sister of Edmund Auberry. There 
were two children of this marriage, Elizabeth 
and Patience Keylway. In 1725-6 they were 
orphans and living in Red Lyon Street. 
Their father, William Keylway, was an 
apothecary in St. Martin's-in-the-Fields. 

His widowed mother, Elizabeth Keylway,. 
survived him and lived at W r eek, Wilts, with 
her son, Daniel Keylway, gent. William had 
three other brothers : Turner Keylway, an 
upholsterer in St. Paul's, Covent Garden ; 
Charles Keylway, a hatter in the Strand ; 
and Robert Keylway, a surgeon in Lincoln's 
Inn Fields. Robert left a widow, Susannah. 
There was also a sister Mary, who married 
James Ashe of Mashfield, Wilts, Esq.. 
(Public Record Office, C.ll, 484/18). 

20 Charleville Road, W.14, 

vi. 90). Very few Hampshire books seem, 
to mention this place. The Hampshire Field 
Club visited St. Leonards the remains of 
the great barn of the Abbey (Beaulieu 
Grange, one of the largest in England, and 
the remains of St. Leonard's Chapel on 
Aug. 20, 1890, and an account of these might 
be found in the local press. There is only a 
brief notice of the excursion in The Papers 
and Proceedings of the Hampshire Field 
Club, vol. ii., p. 11. Murray's Handbook 
for the County, 1858, refers to St. Leonards,, 
the ivy-covered ruins of a barn 226 ft. long, 
the great " spicarium " of the monastery, and' 
fragments of a small decorated chapel. 

It may be worth mentioning that the seal 
of a Hospital of St. Leonard was exhibited 
before the Society of Antiquaries on Jan. 19, 
1882 place not identified and a description 
given in the Proceedings, vol. ix., New Series, 

(12 S. vi. 38; 11 S. ix. 309). These were 
published in The Daily Mail, not in The 
Daily Express. The dates were : ' With 
Number Three,' April 21, 23, 24, 25, 1900 ; 
' Surgical and Medical,' May 1, 2, 1900. 

In the lists of Kipling's contributions to 
The Friend (Bloemfontein). given by MR. 
YOUNG at 11 S. viii. 441, 464, it is not noted 
that * A Song of the White Men ' was 
reprinted in a London paper. My cutting has 
no heading, but it was probably in The Daily 
Mail between May 2 and June 12, 1900. 
He also makes no mention of Kipling's 
heading to the article on G. W. Steevens by 
Lionel James, which was printed in The 
Friend of Mar. 24, 1900, and is reproduced 
in 'War's Brighter Side.' I do not find it 
in ' Songs from Books,' ' The Years Between ' 
(Bombay edition, vols. xxiv., xxv.), nor ini 
' Collected Verse ' (Hodder & Stoughtoru 
1912). C. W. FIREBRACE, Capt. 

i2s. vi. MAY i,i92o.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 



Paul-Loui* Courier: A Selection from the Works 
Edited hy Ernest Weekley. (Manchester Uni- 
versity Press, 5s. net.) 

THIS selection forms one of the French series of 
Modern Language Texts which is being issued by 
the Manchester University Press under the general 
editorship of Prof. Kastner. Prof. Weekley tells 
us in his Preface that he chose a preparation of 
Courier's work as his contribution to the enterprise 
because of his long familiarity with it the ' Lettres 
6crites de France et d'ltalie ' having been for some 
thirty years his favourite livre de chevet. His in- 
troduction and notes certainly have that sureness of 
touch which betokens thorough and well-established 
Knowledge, while in the matter of the appreciation 
of his author, not in Courier's case a very easy 
matter, he shows himself a discriminating guide. 

He has done well, we think, to omit the ' Lettre a 
M. Renouard ' though giving us the ' Avertisse- 
ment.' The story of the pdte is, at bottom, a tedious 
as well as a discreditable affair, in fact, we believe 
that only a highly cultivated taste for style, com- 
bined with the tolerance of triviality characteristic 
of middle age, can make the famous letter endur- 
able to any one. These qualities are not to be looked 
for in the readers for whom the Text is designed, 
though once acquired they open up surprising 
avenues of keen enjoyment. If, however, one were 
asked to demonstrate the defects which prevent 
Courier, in spite of his wit, his skill, his brilliancy, 
and no small measure of shrewd judgment, from 
being a great writer, it is from the ' Lettre a M. 
Renouard ' that one could most easily do it. It is 
not merely that he is spiteful and, therefore, except 
taken in snatches, depressing ; nor yet that he is 
a palmary example of the "Geist der stets verneint," 
the whole activity of his mind tending towards the 
negative, towards destruction ; nor yet, again, that 
he is often palpably insincere and so artificial as never 
to lose consciousness of himself and his methods : it is 
more than anything else the factthat there is in his 
work no central reference, and, therefore, no sense 
of proportion. He must be enjoyed in isolation : he 
has the merits and demerits of the " precious." 

Prof. Weekley, while agreeing more fully than 
we find ourselves able to do, with Sainte-Beuve's 
appreciation of Courier, justly demurs to that 
critic's dictum that Courier was "le moins Gaulois 
possible." It is his gauloiserie which mikes the 
greatest part of his attraction, and which also, we 
think, renders Sainte-Beuve's "de"licat" inappro- 
priate. Irritable in the stricter sense of the 
word we should rather have called him. 

His immense direct debt to Mme. de Se'vigne' 
should perhaps be emphasized more than it 
commonly is, or has been here. Thus to give an 
instance or two the celebrated " Nous yenons de 
faire un empereur " begins with a favourite joke of 
hers which the taste of the present day would not, 
indeed, well permit an editor to elucidate; but it 
might be pointed out that the method of the narra- 
tion is hers, shorn of some amplitude. Again, 
Prof. Weekley notices that "marquer" is often 
used by Courier in an unusual sense, as :" Que te 
marquerai-je encore ? " But this is a most frequent 
use of the word in Mme. de Se"vign6. 

The notes are excellent. Prof. Weekley is= 
especially to be congratulated on the mass of 
references he has, so to say. nailed down ; by the 
aid of these the student will appreciate the true 
quality of the astonishing tour de force presented 1 
to him in Courier's style. If we mention one or two 
minute slips it is merely that they may be rectified 
in a subsequent edition. At p. 209 the monkish 
" facere officium suum " is rendered " to do one's 
duty ; " in the context it rather means "discharge 
one's office," "do one's job." At p. 213 by an 
obvious misprint Seo-irfoi)? 6 v6fj.os has. been trans- 
lated "the law the master" instead of the j" the 
law is master." 

The book includes a virtually exhaustive biblio- 
graphy and an index, but it lacks a table of con- 
tents the list so-called comprising the whole of 
the selections under the one word *' Text." 


Lecture on Quaker Printing and the Library's-. 

IN three years' time what is certainly the most 
complete denominational library in this country, if 
not in the world, will be celebrating its 250th anni- 
versary, as it was by a minute of the " fifteenth of 
seventh month, 1673," that the Society of Friends 
recorded their determination to see that "two of a 
sort of all books written by Friends be collected and 
kept together .... and one of e\'ery sort written 
against truth." The library thus begun is still in 
existence and is being steadily added to, though' 
to-day only one copy of these Quaker and opposition 
books is kept on its shelves. Its elaborate series of 
indexes to persons, place?, and subjects contain* 
quite a quarter of a million references. 

Something of the history of the Devonshire House 
Reference Library was given by the retiring Presi- 
dent of the Friends' Historical Society, Miss Anna 
L. Littleboy, at their annual meeti